Visenya Targaryen Explained Game of Thrones House of the Dragon ASOIAF Lore

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4 ай бұрын

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@davidspooner4582
@davidspooner4582 4 ай бұрын
Conquering a kingdom by giving a kid a ride on a Dragon is pretty wholesome in a way
@sammakesstuff4176
@sammakesstuff4176 4 ай бұрын
lol as long as you don't think about how she was threatening to kill him
@Mr50403
@Mr50403 4 ай бұрын
She would have burned everything!
@leonbriski5929
@leonbriski5929 4 ай бұрын
I mean, its much better than actually killing him and burning everything to the ground​@@sammakesstuff4176
@nicksmithnutmilk
@nicksmithnutmilk 4 ай бұрын
​@@sammakesstuff4176she definetely didn't want to harm that little King
@audreyhogan8285
@audreyhogan8285 4 ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkI agree. If she wanted to hurt him she would have, she had lots of opportunities.
@sammakesstuff4176
@sammakesstuff4176 4 ай бұрын
Many have wielded Dark Sister, but Vis WAS the Dark Sister
@AK-jy4ws
@AK-jy4ws 4 ай бұрын
Yeeees! ❤❤❤❤❤
@synergy8879
@synergy8879 Ай бұрын
aegon may be inbreeding to hell, but he does have a good taste in family members 😂
@Emanuel-oo6mc
@Emanuel-oo6mc 4 ай бұрын
She truly was the perfect Queen. She wasn't just a person he chose to marry, but needed to strengthen his rule and build his kingdom.
@morning8599
@morning8599 4 ай бұрын
not really perfect considering she helped Maegor usurp his nephew I’d call her very controversial grey character
@kristenstoumann8345
@kristenstoumann8345 4 ай бұрын
I too love this story, just thought the whole having a flight with a little boy, sound, atleast to me, as something that Rhaenys would do, and not Visenya😊
@Random_UserName4269
@Random_UserName4269 4 ай бұрын
Alysanne is more perfect I think.
@ezdub5762
@ezdub5762 4 ай бұрын
@@Random_UserName4269Jaehaerys and Alysanne were the perfect King and Queen even if they fought pretty frequently. I think Rhaenys and Visenya embodied different aspects of ruling alongside Aegon which is why the realm quickly fell to warfare as soon as the more docile Queen Rhaenys fell.
@raniaminhas3406
@raniaminhas3406 4 ай бұрын
@@morning8599if you look into it, her reasons are understandable. She and her siblings had worked so hard to establish their dynasty, she wasn't going to let it fall into ruin if she could help it. Don't forget Aenys was a weak king and it's understandable Visenya would think Aenys children were weak as a result…. Don't forget she tried to counsel Aenys herself, he was just that useless as a king.
@ifeeldead463
@ifeeldead463 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Sharra. Like, imagine checking on your son and you find the enemy queen there. There were no alarms and the guards were unaware of her presence. Youre just a mere noblewoman so you cant fight her but even then, your son is next to her and she could easily kill him or use him as a human shield if you so much as alert the guards. Then you have to watch her fly your son around the kingdom, anxious of her having her dragon set your land ablaze or dropping your son to his death.
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 ай бұрын
You’re forgetting that ronnel (or his mother) asked visenya to take ronnel flying on vhaegar in return for peacefully surrendering the vale, visenya was willing to give them that in return for the surrender
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 2 ай бұрын
The absolute flex of stealthing Vhaegar right outside a rival's living room while you play games with their son.
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 ай бұрын
@@dngn4774 it was an intimidation tactic that resulted in a peaceful surrender
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the thought of a child surrendering just because he wants to ride a dragon. Did he know it was a dragon? Did he think it to be some scaly horse that levitates? The idea is more adorable than it should be. The series can be strangely wholesome.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
It always makes me sad that when he got older someone took over like a brother or cousin or something and threw him out the moon door
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
@@aegorbittersteel2154 I didn’t know that part, now I actually feel sad. Why do people always have to eliminate family? If you really want power, rule through them as a proxy. 😢 That Moon Door is a sadistic invention.
@purplethorn3865
@purplethorn3865 4 ай бұрын
​@@aegorbittersteel2154 he was also married a stark but died childless
@luca-ou8pv
@luca-ou8pv 4 ай бұрын
*proceeds to get assassinated by inn fighting by his vassals*
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
@@purplethorn3865 I forgot about that Arryns and there fertility problems I guess.
@MegaKnight2012
@MegaKnight2012 4 ай бұрын
She basically ruled the kingdom. Aegon wasn't that sociable or interested in ruling. It makes sense he was motivated by prophecy dreams to conquer, given his disinterest. His sisters seemed more excited by conquering than he was, Visneya especially. She's the real conqueror of the first Targaryen dynasty.
@AkeruZikora
@AkeruZikora 4 ай бұрын
She was the (co) ruler with her sister, but Aegon was the conqueror. It was his idea, his plan, his command
@morning8599
@morning8599 4 ай бұрын
A tandem of her, Rhaenys and Orys ruled the kingdom, not just her alone. And Aegon of course.
@kap2652
@kap2652 4 ай бұрын
No she didn’t Aegon ruled his kingdom and shared power with her he went on royal progress for 6 months and left one of his sister wives in charge along with his small counsil that’s the only time she ruled when he was away royal progress helped put love and respect or fear in people and he held court on them hearing the problems of everyone Aegon fought more battles then her in the conquest aegon didn’t have many friends but he didn’t hide himself away if he wasn’t sociable he wouldn’t go on them was active in his rule visenya deserve Credit but she did help maegor usurp the throne aegon ruled his kingdom and did more in the conquest he was the conqueror he was kept the peace
@ifeeldead463
@ifeeldead463 4 ай бұрын
Aegon the visionary, Visenya the warrior, Rhaenys the Diplomat and Orys the loyalist
@Papaty25
@Papaty25 3 ай бұрын
Where did you pull that stupid statement from? Your ass? Aegon literally travelled the seven kingdoms in disguise to get to know the small folk better.
@bugjuice32086
@bugjuice32086 4 ай бұрын
Visenya is my favorite character in all the lore of game of thrones
@oooooogames7715
@oooooogames7715 4 ай бұрын
Most badass woman in the history of seven kingdoms
@Papaty25
@Papaty25 3 ай бұрын
Nah, I think it's Lady Olenna.
@GaiaJenda
@GaiaJenda 4 ай бұрын
Visenya and Maegor: Necessary Evil
@CharmagnCody-mw6zr
@CharmagnCody-mw6zr 4 ай бұрын
Shes a Baaaddd Bish!!! And I loved that she had her sword called dark sister when she was the darker of the two sisters as well
@keanancupido
@keanancupido 4 ай бұрын
I always loved the way she flew the Arran boy king around the castle. She didn't need to do it but she did. A true queen!
@xandermarley8552
@xandermarley8552 4 ай бұрын
Badass 🔥🔥🔥 I just hope they don’t ruin her character or the other 2 conqueror’s character traits if their story ever came to screen
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 4 ай бұрын
I heard about the Conqueror spec script HBO rejected- the woman who wrote it was *absolutely* going to ruin Aegon. While I don't like all the changes made to HotD, despise what happened to GoT- & found myself a bit dumbfounded by the little I've heard released about 'BloodMoon' - what this scriptwriter was going to do was an absolute mutilation of the source material; Aegon was a combination of Caesar, Alexander the Great, & William of Normandy- he wasn't some 'useless drunk' that needed his sisters to do everything... I very much want a Conqueror's series, but I'm very, *very* glad that _that_ one was passed on.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
Best Big Sis Dragon Queen
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
I think most people want an older sister like her. Aegon’s parents be like: Your sister can ride and command dragons, what have you done?
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
​@@Chernobyl_Reactor4😂😂 if I was Aegon I probably would have favored Visenya
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@aegorbittersteel2154You know what, I absolutely agree. Though I pity the younger sister, she must have felt jealous. It is especially weird since they were probably in competition for his affection. 😳 Though Aegon eventually didn’t have to deal with the other one. I would bend the knee if Visenya was my older sister, don’t judge me. It is from Aegon’s perspective. 😅
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 I can't judge you because I agree😄
@aburoach9268
@aburoach9268 4 ай бұрын
@@Chernobyl_Reactor4 "Your sister can ride and command dragons, what have you done?" / Aegon: "I rode her ;)"
@fallenaeon7084
@fallenaeon7084 4 ай бұрын
Its a shame that her bloodline died although there were claims that Maegor, her son, had sired numerous bastards.
@morning8599
@morning8599 4 ай бұрын
he couldn't even sire rightful alive kids with his six wives and someone is theorizing about bastards
@ifeeldead463
@ifeeldead463 4 ай бұрын
Unless they made sure he never found out, that meant Maegor couldve just grabbed a bastard son and crown him heir. I mean, its not like he respected his people so may as well
@cordellbradley3747
@cordellbradley3747 4 ай бұрын
So basically, she's Xena with a dragon? ❤😂
@leogad669
@leogad669 4 ай бұрын
Vhagar wasn’t very massive by the time of the conquest right? (At least not compared to Meraxes or Balerion.)
@femalegays
@femalegays 4 ай бұрын
she was
@mahee2122
@mahee2122 4 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 2 ай бұрын
No, Vhagar was the smallest of the three... but by the time of the dance is said to have almost reach the same size as Balerion.
@kaylat060889
@kaylat060889 4 ай бұрын
Visenya is my favorite targaryen. If aegons conquest becomes a show it needs to be done from her perspective. She is the original dragon queen!!
@Lord-Tywin-Lannister
@Lord-Tywin-Lannister 4 ай бұрын
Aegon married Visenya out of duty while he married Rhaenys out of desire.
@femalegays
@femalegays 4 ай бұрын
if you're gonna say the generic line, at least quote it right. he married rhaenys out of desire
@piguelmonce9937
@piguelmonce9937 4 ай бұрын
Still had two queens 😎 win in my book
@Mr50403
@Mr50403 4 ай бұрын
​@@piguelmonce9937Not if there your sister's.
@piguelmonce9937
@piguelmonce9937 4 ай бұрын
@@Mr50403 there Targaryen so they get a pass
@j915winterking9
@j915winterking9 4 ай бұрын
He slept with Visenya 1 time for every 10 with Rhaenys
@TrueYellowDart
@TrueYellowDart 4 ай бұрын
Visenya’s belief in strength worked well when she had her siblings to temper her. Her later actions in helping Maegor rise to power, believing him to be the necessary kind of ruler, are questionable at best. So once again another fascinatingly “grey” character from GRRM. I just don’t get tired of it.
@patrickdormeus8453
@patrickdormeus8453 4 ай бұрын
"Without bloodshed my ass😒." -Daemon Velaryon died in the Vale
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 ай бұрын
That wasn’t during the conquest, that was during the reign of Jaehaerys decades later
@patrickdormeus8453
@patrickdormeus8453 2 ай бұрын
@@jakealter5504 you're speaking of the 2nd Daemon Velaryon. The first was Aegons master of ships. I was confused at first til I looked it up
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickdormeus8453 he still didn’t die in the vale, he died in gulltown
@patrickdormeus8453
@patrickdormeus8453 2 ай бұрын
@@jakealter5504 bro Gulltown is literally in the Vale. It's their port city like White Harbor is to The North and Lannisport is to the Westerlands
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickdormeus8453 still, it happened early in the conquest
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 4 ай бұрын
This is women is 🔥. No wonder Arya chose her as a role model
@fergalosanchez7675
@fergalosanchez7675 4 ай бұрын
Like mother like son
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 4 ай бұрын
I am all yours My Queen!
@mahee2122
@mahee2122 4 ай бұрын
Wow!!! She bought a kingdom by offering Three rounds on dragon back 😅😂
@Elizabeth-hc3mi
@Elizabeth-hc3mi 2 ай бұрын
Visenya: Okay, I can't kill this kid. Hey sweetheart, so you want a ride on my dragon instead?
@jeffreychen8105
@jeffreychen8105 Ай бұрын
Visenya was all Cersei aspired and failed to be - save for the brother sleeping part
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
I must admit, the idea of a distant Empire conquering is something frequently done in fantasy. The idea of said conqueror being married to both sisters, that is not as frequent. Am I too far gone? Am I supposed to have a reaction or is it normal to feel neutral towards it by now?
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
I think it's natural when stuff hits the same plot points again and again we can get a little num.
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
@@aegorbittersteel2154True, The Jaime and Cersei scene in the tower, Viserys and Dany was weird, the whole lore about the Targaryens. Then the show, I don’t even think I need to mention anything. Jaime and Cersei at the Sept. Lancel and Cersei.
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 4 ай бұрын
​@@Chernobyl_Reactor4True and I mean look at happened with fans in the being people were like how could Targaryens do that with family now everyone looking at an Uncle and Niece like it's one of the greatest love stories.
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
@@aegorbittersteel2154 I admit that I do think Rhaenyra has the better claim but damn, she can be weird. I have to remember that a good leader doesn’t equate a good person. Leadership through merit. I mean, Daemon is a lot older as well. There are also sections who ship Jon and Sansa, at worst, half siblings, at best, cousins. It is a bit weird.
@Chernobyl_Reactor4
@Chernobyl_Reactor4 4 ай бұрын
@@aegorbittersteel2154 Oh and I remembered Jon and Dany, even if it is the show. Aunt and nephew. Lovely. 😬 Need I mention the scene at the boat?
@jaqjynx
@jaqjynx 4 ай бұрын
Love Visenya ❤she was the GOAT 🔥
@astar2176
@astar2176 4 ай бұрын
Dark sisters Deamon, Vhagar Aemond most powerful on dance of the dragon Visenya still has power
@user-jl4uf8gs8q
@user-jl4uf8gs8q 2 ай бұрын
Personally it would have been fantastic if the made a prequel series on the whole targaryan history rather than just the civil war I mean they are the most popular
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 2 ай бұрын
There really isn't a lot of conflict to give a satisfying conclusion to that series if it was just kept to the conflict and the first dornish war. They essentially steamroll everyone except dorne and the dorne stuff isn't resolved until about 150 years later. There's about a 30 year lull between Rhaenys's death and her son's reign (where we start to see the other houses test boundaries in a post-aegon westeros).
@basicsimp8798
@basicsimp8798 8 күн бұрын
She was smart, capable and a great fighter. She's the total package ❤
@mordha86
@mordha86 4 ай бұрын
Wasn’t she one of the few Targaryen ladies who lived to an old age?
@michaelyohanes2782
@michaelyohanes2782 4 ай бұрын
No it was Rhaenys
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Ай бұрын
Yes, she died at the age of 72, after a sudden illness.
@houseviceroy
@houseviceroy 4 ай бұрын
Id like to hope she gave the boy a ride on vhagar out of kindness not a threat as a hostage for a bended knee lol
@MichaelCallaghan-qz4vt
@MichaelCallaghan-qz4vt 4 ай бұрын
she would be my 2nd fav targ if it wasnt for meagor
@tuckernutter
@tuckernutter 4 ай бұрын
She wasnt exactly moral by our standards but she was shrewd and cutthroat and knew when to doll out violence. But after reading Maegors story it paints her in a light we should have seen coming.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Ай бұрын
It tells you something about Maegor's psychotic tendencies that while Visenya was warlike, she actually was a moderating influence on him.
@abhishankpaul
@abhishankpaul Ай бұрын
Chad Queen slashing her King's cheek with Valyrian Steel sword to prove her point of how vulnerable her husband is to Dornish stealth attacks
@Bella_The_Chef
@Bella_The_Chef 4 ай бұрын
1 who doesn’t see a fucking dragon 2 who doesn’t see a fucking dragon 3 who doesn’t teach their kid to scream or stab when a stranger enters their private quarters
@geromegalan5388
@geromegalan5388 4 ай бұрын
Now do the other sister
@williamvansyfer6835
@williamvansyfer6835 3 ай бұрын
There's a great strong female character for you QUEEN VISENYA TARGARYEN
@canonkingsley6569
@canonkingsley6569 4 ай бұрын
Wait, i thought the other sister was Maegor's mom. Visenya died.
@Grace-er9ep
@Grace-er9ep 4 ай бұрын
The other one died first in Dorne. Visenya outlived both of her siblings
@collinwatts9390
@collinwatts9390 Ай бұрын
Rhaenys was the sister Aegon loved but Visenya was the one he needed
@femalegays
@femalegays 4 ай бұрын
ironic that aenys almost destroyed aegon's dynasty while maegor saved it and built on it, though both would never last
@dominiquejones6758
@dominiquejones6758 4 ай бұрын
The real king!!!
@synergy8879
@synergy8879 Ай бұрын
how the hell did y’all just let a massive fucking dragon land in your castle without being seen 😂
@basicsimp8798
@basicsimp8798 8 күн бұрын
This was during the early days. Vhagar was not that big before. It just grew with age
@michaelglynn7010
@michaelglynn7010 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow she definitely left her mark 👀
@lgt_jne
@lgt_jne 4 ай бұрын
@atiblink
@atiblink 2 ай бұрын
When I think there are people rooting for her and her son while they are hating the greens 💩
@crescentyt2023
@crescentyt2023 3 ай бұрын
Tell me about dark sister . What does Daemon have ?
@mfundonkosi6927
@mfundonkosi6927 4 ай бұрын
I like her
@piguelmonce9937
@piguelmonce9937 4 ай бұрын
Aegon you lucky s.o.b
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 14 күн бұрын
Katheryn Winnick only Visenya
@AdityaSingh-iz5zs
@AdityaSingh-iz5zs 3 ай бұрын
Conquest of vale of arryn was not bloodless. Battle at gulltown was bloody and draw. Daemon velaryon was dead. So conquest of VofA was bloody indeed but not as bloody as conquest of riverlands, stormlands, westerlands, reach and dorn (failed wars)
@user-wj6dl6dt2r
@user-wj6dl6dt2r Ай бұрын
Mommy energy 🤤
@manikandan-xl8nk
@manikandan-xl8nk Ай бұрын
How she rode vhagar
@basicsimp8798
@basicsimp8798 8 күн бұрын
Vhagar was still small back then.
@alejandronunez5110
@alejandronunez5110 4 ай бұрын
She wasn't perfect but Gods what a woman She was.
@not_averge
@not_averge 4 ай бұрын
Visenya mothered Aenys?
@brownstark6166
@brownstark6166 4 ай бұрын
Magor was hers aenys was the other one's
@leewatch7459
@leewatch7459 4 ай бұрын
Aenys was Rhaenys' child, while Visenya mothered Maegor. An easy way to remember: Aenys sounds like Rhaenys
@not_averge
@not_averge 4 ай бұрын
@@leewatch7459 ik that bro I was saying that ironically.
@leewatch7459
@leewatch7459 4 ай бұрын
@@not_averge okay
@not_averge
@not_averge 4 ай бұрын
@@leewatch7459 ❤️
@richwhitelivesmatterforsureduh
@richwhitelivesmatterforsureduh 4 ай бұрын
did aegon do 3sm tho
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