It's time for the VOLVO!! It got towed in on a flatbed....from Virginia...250 miles away!! Crank no-start. LET'S DO IT! Enjoy! Ivan
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@lynskyrd5 ай бұрын
Dealerships are disgusting. This guy took the time to methodically organize his troubleshooting steps. He checked and double-checked his findings. He didn't jump to conclusions but instead, made the right conclusions. THIS is the difference between a 'technician' and a parts replacer. What would have happened at the dealership and what typically happens- the problem is 'diagnosed'; parts are replaced, doesn't fix the problem, the customer is called and told they need even more parts- and eventually, the bad part is 'found' but only after replacing a bunch of good parts- all at the expense of the customer. THIS is why I do my own repairs- THIS is why I watch TRUE mechanics like this guy. Awesome job, thanks for showing us the way it's done.
@atrahasis38995 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I blacked out after I saw the dealer estimate.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind5 жыл бұрын
I died laughing.
@Dirtyharry705855 жыл бұрын
only morons use the dealer or it's included in the over-price leased car.
@laohantun74045 жыл бұрын
Yeah.....I felt dizzy too😃😃😃😃 thanks Ivan....your analysis is awesome...
@dudley75405 жыл бұрын
And that's probably the low guess!
@rockphotochick4 жыл бұрын
someone who I legit trust to use critical thinking to fix a car 😃.... but you're 3000mi away from my broken Cali car 😩😭🤦♀️ (xc70 that I *suspect* developed a bad ground. Worked fine yesterday. Now no power, not even hazards- no response to a jump)
@DARIUSZxP5 жыл бұрын
Owned 04 S60R. PEM rotting out is common in this vintage of Volvo’s. They came up with PEM relocation kit which puts it inside the car.
@themechanic61175 жыл бұрын
My polymer electrolyte membrane hurts afters seeing that estimate 😂👍. Such a great feeling when you get a car running and prove a dealer/shop wrong.
@MiguelFlores-jp1ss5 жыл бұрын
Ivan,that dealer estimate is exactly why a channel like yours is so VALUABLE ,to the diy'er. That's a RIPOFF any way you look at it. The fix (cost) is more than the car is worth. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!
@carlob5172 жыл бұрын
that's why they are called stealers not dealers
@ericcorse5 жыл бұрын
PEM that sounds like one of those magical devices in the 70's that would give you 80 MPG. Oh boy Ivan taking something apart again.
@WatchWesWork5 жыл бұрын
Time for math class at the Volvo dealership. That's some generous rounding!
@richardcranium58395 жыл бұрын
that's the new math they teach in schools these days. dont question it it would take 2 chalkboards to break it down for you
@zoidberg4445 жыл бұрын
@@richardcranium5839 With this "common core" shit they push these days it wouldn't surprise me!
@wyattoneable5 жыл бұрын
That DS708 is an awesome tool. I got mine from Mike and it's been great. Your a tough dude working in those conditions. But it sure makes for a great case study. I appreciate it.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
The trusty MaxiDas is a great scanner!
@atrahasis38995 жыл бұрын
Polymer Electrolyte Membrane Module is that fuel pump module you unplugged and diagnosed defective. Would have made things easier if they'd just listed it as "That fuel pump module thing near the back wheel". I still like my original hypothesis better: Condom filled with battery electrolyte.
@Unbleachd5 жыл бұрын
only forgien car companies would use this type of "highly tech" lingo to a customer. you need to dumb it down for ppl wtf? i would never tell a service advisor that thats the failiure. replacing a fuel pump not descriing physics!!
@Dirtyharry705855 жыл бұрын
Why do you think the EU auto makers comes up with bullshit acronyms- for mega bucks service income? They're sooooo European soooo posh
@yeehaw3988 ай бұрын
These are used in hydrogen electric trucks at Volvo
@avenqer4 жыл бұрын
After I bought a fuel pump I finally found your vid. This was the answer to a no fire 2005 XC70. ( Codes were 089, 190 and 193 ) Needless to say, if you never experiences a two port fuel pump... kinda annoying when doing it green. (Hint: Buy the socket, get two O rings and expect to stick your hands in the tank and get wet with cold gas even at below a 1/4 tank). Any way. Your bypass method was what we used to test the fuel pump and the car fired immediately. We just used two paperclips and electrical tape to the connectors to test pump and start vehicle. The inside was full of aluminum corrosion dust. The other components looked brand new on this 15 year old vehicle. If they used something the wouldn't corrode for the heat sink, it would have been fine. If you feel I should replace the rail pressure sensor because of those codes or suggestion on what to do next (Clear codes and if nothing come up. let it be?), I'd appreciate it. Oh and mine was not located on the tank it was exposed on the side in the rear underneath. The part number was 30769225 for Bosch (Original number was Bosch 8629614) and 601-227 for Dorman if anyone is wondering.
@ToyotatechDK5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good example of the difference between a parts changer and auto diagnostics 👌🏻
@billneu95205 жыл бұрын
Nice diag, you are diagnostician engineer and a true DIY person, love watching your videos thanks for your time. Bill N LINY
@scottthomson1205 жыл бұрын
Nice diag, Ivan! Can't wait for part 2! Ivan the super diagnostician mechanic...In the middle of winter, laying on a gravel driveway! My fingers turned ice cold and white, just watching this video.
@TGsrao19895 жыл бұрын
212K miles? That volvo has just completed her break-in.
@DANBED200215 жыл бұрын
So glad I called you to let you know that it was posted as private and that you managed to correct it! It was definitely worth the call!
@dans_Learning_Curve5 жыл бұрын
I saw the notification pop up on email but was disappointed that it was private! Thanks for helping out! Ivan, you on Facebook?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! You're the man!
@CSkwirl5 жыл бұрын
It's still not showing up in my subscription feed on multiple devices but appeared as a recommended video, only reason I knew it was posted
@DANBED200215 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics you're welcome Ivan! No problem! At least you know that you have at least 1 loyal fan!LoL
@DANBED200215 жыл бұрын
@@CSkwirl well he did repost it and it is working! As of 1:57 a.m. on 03/08/2019!
@AP93115 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, that is weird!! Volvo!!! Hahaha, I put a new engine in that years ago, for a customer that has blown engine. Took me 2 days to swap it out. Haha, nice diagnosis!! Sounds like fuel pump driver bad. Can't wait for part 2 :)
@gs78655 жыл бұрын
If you charged Volvo prices one or two cars would buy you a lift and a nice big shop heater.
@jaredstrehlein56055 жыл бұрын
without a doubt
@topherd10115 жыл бұрын
First mistake was going to a Volvo dealer to begin with lol the recommendations don’t surprise me they always do that but dealerships love and are proud of their parts-
@sargetester995 жыл бұрын
I run into that headlight problem a lot on the newer cars which drains the battery, so what I do is I pulled the headlamp Relay, As long as the headlight system Is not part of the problem being diagnosed this works great
@armandolios45615 жыл бұрын
Man you have almost 5k emails to read, I'm guessing fan questions. Great work!!!.
@geltecmail5 жыл бұрын
Atra Hasis, I like this one too. Polymer Electrolyte Membrane: Cover for Jello cups. Favorite of child nurseries and Volvo mechanic break rooms everywhere.
@MrPami98995 жыл бұрын
Nice diagnostic Ivan!!
@GlycerinZ5 жыл бұрын
I like those Volvo wagons. Also, more proof at how much of a rip-off the dealerships are. Thanks for more great vids, Ivan
@armandonika5 жыл бұрын
Oh man this trade it makes so fun on us, great video Ivan
@Paul1958R5 жыл бұрын
Ivan Great video, methodology, and diagnosis. Thank you and looking forward to part 2! God bless Paul
@NewLevelAuto5 жыл бұрын
50,000 !!! Sweeeet. Time to watch now
@billyg72815 жыл бұрын
I am in St. George, UT for the True Grit Epic. You should be here, warm...well warmer. Hard core to ride in that!
@fire77655 жыл бұрын
Awesome, anxiously awaiting part 2.
@79spirit745 жыл бұрын
Going “Full Ivan” on that fuel pump module. Got my coffee and ginger snaps on standby awaiting part 2.
@atrahasis38995 жыл бұрын
Polymer Electrolyte Membrane: Condom with some battery juice on it.
@robc59555 жыл бұрын
Great job as ever, it shocks me that was the dealers ie ‘the experts’ apparent diagnosis. In a nice warm workshop with a lift, the manufacturer level kit etc there are some good ones but wow there some truly terrible ones.
@mdorf618 ай бұрын
PDM, pretty damn marvelous
@TheCowgirlNiamh5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love dealer prices! 👍😂. If I had used a dealer for all the jobs I did on my car last year, I could have bought a new car! Looking forward to seeing what's inside that box! Nice job Ivan 😊
@turtlezed5 жыл бұрын
Great vid Ivan,you had me hooked, Eric would be proud of ya working 'in the field' in those conditions but hey, you do it all the time. Get yourself an extra large coffee to warm up bud.....at least you can get it to your place and you have it virtually nailed.....I enjoyed this vid immensely.😋
@jamesbruno58965 жыл бұрын
Great job Ivan be careful passing 10A though those leads that's about the max for a short time. Looking forward to part 2 👍
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
Good point. Didn't see any smoke so they must be OK haha
@robertgregilovich22295 жыл бұрын
As per Ivan "Euro Trash". Great video and diagnosis
@georgebonney905 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to part2,thank u Ivan
@johnr4235 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Ivan. This is a great video
@hansvanrengs26425 жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, Very nice case study, as usual good diagnose steps and good explanation. Up to part 2 Greetings Hans
@dans_Learning_Curve5 жыл бұрын
Had a fuel pump on a '98 Windstar giving me trouble. On the side of the road, I took the relay out, jumpered the power, and went under the van with a hammer. I could turn the pump on and off by just hitting the tank! I replaced the pump!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
That is actually a very accurate diagnosis! Have done that myself a few times haha
@kevinshasteen56825 жыл бұрын
Oh come on Ivan. The Polymer Electrolite Membrane is the space age technological wrap that protects the muffler bearing from rusting....I kindve expected someone of your mechanical prowress to have known that ;)
@Viper817665 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and diagnosis brother :- )
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert!
@jkbrown54965 жыл бұрын
The PEM is what the plates of the Flux Capacitor are made of
@joekuntzman40165 жыл бұрын
great video! Volvo can be tricky to work on. One of my least favorite engines to work on is the 2.9 that is used in the xc90. All the plastic stuff breaks every time you touch it!
@62ejo5 жыл бұрын
Ah nice Ivan,bring it Pt.2
@williegillie57125 жыл бұрын
The (PEM) is called the Pump Control Module. I looked up Proton-exchange membrane fuel cells, also known as polymer electrolyte membrane. They use hydrogen fuel and oxygen from the air to produce electricity. Don’t know what that has to do with Volvo but they sure came up with an interesting name didn’t they. There is a recall on some of the Pump control Modules (PCM) it’s worth checking out. Might save your friend some money.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
I already saved him enough money haha
@williegillie57125 жыл бұрын
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics yeah I can’t believe what the dealership quoted him. Did they make up some name hoping this guy would fall for it? Pretty sad. I’ll be waiting to see what the problem really was in your next video.
@cent311195 жыл бұрын
PEM is petrol electronic module if I recall and there is a fuel test port on the fuel rail under the black cover.
@sinegra305 жыл бұрын
Great Tutorial thank you! Can't wait to see you tearing apart that fuel pump module.
@arthurfricchione81195 жыл бұрын
Ivan everyone of your videos is a real challenge. moving on to video number 2 ❤️️
@ThunderbirdRocket2 ай бұрын
Fantastic tutorial ! Thanks Ivan . 👊🏼 🔥 💻 📈
@SuperJoes705 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan can't wait for part 2 Reason I have a 2004 Volvo V70 only at a 147k bought it because I like the features it has , not crazy about the mechcanicals it has still will take a asain or good old USA nuts and bolts vehicle just me . Joe still turning wrenches at 68 ( pick and chose the jobs can't get paid for the agravation .
@whitesapphire58652 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I'm working on my '99 S70 right now, exact same fault. The electronic control system is a lot simpler, but the pump is controlled by the ECM in a similar way, just that it would appear that the pump is either on, or off, via a simple relay, though to say simple, may be not strictly accurate because there would appear to be a signal path back to the ECM which I have yet to deduce. The main thing is, I'm going to be bypassing everything, and driving the pump direct at battery voltage. If that works, I'll be where you are at the end of the video.
@weldingjunkie5 жыл бұрын
I bought that ASE wave connection kit it’s awesome I love it
@embreesmith76135 жыл бұрын
nice job, as always ..
@geltecmail5 жыл бұрын
Ivan, may I suggest a set of mirrors to use, so you don't have to turn your head around when testing. Think Egyptian tomb light reflectors. LOL
@Gizmo42Rodeo5 жыл бұрын
On V50s and I think the other P1 chassis cars they had a recall on the FPMs because of high failure rate from moisture and corrosion. They moved the inside under the seat.
@sjn72205 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the autopsy.
@marscruz5 жыл бұрын
That fuel pump module is notorious for going out on F150. Mine is a 2005. It's hidden up underneath the spare tire. Lots of water and corrosion up there. Its housing is made of aluminum and just corrodes away until the guts are revealed. Zap! Electronics immediately fried.
@DANBED200215 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see part 2!
@kevinedward12345 жыл бұрын
Ivan, great video!!!!!!!!!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@donnierobertson30885 жыл бұрын
Good job
@adamtrombino1065 жыл бұрын
'The dealer can stick it!' I spit my coffee all over the floor! BTW, careful how many amps you put through those test leads. Interestingly enough, Eric O was just talking about that the other day when testing a coil on a Dodge minivan.. They'll take 10 maybe 12 amps, but not for long! Part 2 fix for the ultimate 'in your face dealership!'
@naushadali955 жыл бұрын
nice job, as always.
@nicknicu17875 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with these Volvos,they’re solid cars! Just wrong location of that module. Move it inside the car and it will be fine for many years. Good thing you didn’t have to do a fuel pump on that thing,I’m not sure on this one,but on some Volvos you have to drop the exhaust,rear subframe and tank to do a fuel pump! 😮
@eFaZeHD5 жыл бұрын
Good video! 👍👍
@plcauto5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, wow it's been so long since a saw a Silhouett van hahaha.
@martinryan79312 ай бұрын
Really helpful vid. Thanks
@wysetech20005 жыл бұрын
Looks like the dealer didn't want to fix it. Those years of Volvo were good cars and would last forever if taken care of. The price of parts is crazy for those cars.
@robertwynkoop685 жыл бұрын
Hey that is my battery charger. I have had it since 1987.
@joeshow88152 жыл бұрын
you are a smart man
@MitzvosGolem15 жыл бұрын
Excellent work thanks
@darwindwelle52675 жыл бұрын
Polymer Electrolyte Membrane???? Is that anything like a muffler bearing Ivan lol??? Ya know Ivan I bet you get that bill down to almost nothing. I love watching you and Eric tear these thief shops apart keep it up!!!
@michaelproust78912 жыл бұрын
Try using Rivolta TPS Plus penetrating fluid, full synthetic, high creep, non acidic. Made by Fuchs, it is hard to get in Australia as it "reserved" for the mining industry, amazing stuff and cheaper than Kriol. Keep the WD 40 for the other jobs
@davidraezer59375 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I put a throttle module on a S80. They come as a dummy and must be programmed. Started the programming using Autologic and the whole car went dark. Freaked me out till I realized they shut down the other modules during programming. Also half the battle is figuring out what all the manufacture specific acronyms stand for. Looking to control a fuel pump on a BMW whey it’s in the airbag module of course!
@Malcarper5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Ivan! I think Volvo and other main dealers, are just not interested in repairing old vehicles of say ….. age over 10 years. Might explain why the work estimates are so high and often more than the vehicle is worth. The dealer may also be thinking, they have a chance of you buying a new or used vehicle from them. I own a 10 year old vehicle and would only try a main dealer, if I could not fix it myself or the local repair shops could not fix it.
@Randomgearhead5 жыл бұрын
quick and dirty spray it with starting fluid and see if the engine runs for a second then you know to chase the fuel problem or not.
@IreadTheWord5 жыл бұрын
Another Crank no Start/security fault solution: Some Volvo S-70's have a chip embedded in the key that the ignition reads to allow it to start. My 2000 S70 had a key that the chip went bad. We found this out after trying the SPARE key on accident...everything instantly worked great, started right up. So to make a copy of the key with the good chip costs about $120 unless you go to the dealer and it will be about $300 +
@robertevans64815 жыл бұрын
Love it...."the dealer can suck it....""""....I am ROTF... Great call...
@exmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
PDM is on the opposite side of the DDM. Lol.. It's your Passenger Door Module bud. Which controls your window, mirror and door lock controls thru can lines to your CEM. Have a XC90 I'm working on as well.. with a DDM problem is how knew. 😂😄 Cheers bud
@dnlmachine42873 жыл бұрын
In North America, people ask me "should i buy (insert european brand vehicle)??" I always say no. Just dont do it. If they are hell-bent to get a Euro car, I tell them to lease it, then give it back. And to be prepared for the dealer to charge thousands of dollars upon lease return for things like a dirty windscreen, .02 nanometer chip in the front bumper, cleaning fees, worn tires, brake pedal wear, abrasion on arm rest, rear view mirror finger smudge removal, etc etc etc. Stay gold.
@orville585 жыл бұрын
Good stuff can’t wait for part two
@kevinbyrne45385 жыл бұрын
Polymer Electrolyte Membrane -- the membrane is part of a fuel cell, which generates electricity and which is called the "Auxiliary Power Unit".
@richardcranium58395 жыл бұрын
an apu ??? so volvo's can fly??? who knew lol
@CAMR3N4204 күн бұрын
It does have a Schrader valve on the far left side of the fuel rail
@evgenyk53545 жыл бұрын
Не хило дилер насчитал так за ремонт, машина столько не стоит:))))) а я думал что только у нас так делают.
@joeshow88152 жыл бұрын
lets hook it up and see if the car starts and if it doesn't let's hook it up the other way..... I LOVE how you think. Way to go. !!
@billziegmond49434 жыл бұрын
To quote Eric O "There's your Problem Lady!" I nver get them that easy. Go buuy a lottery ticket my friend.
@radman9994 жыл бұрын
Common problem, we had a TJ (TSB) for this at the dealership. Just because one dealership experience is bad doesn't mean they are all bad. Would be like me comparing you to Autozone
@LMAutoRepairs5 жыл бұрын
Nice diagnosis! 👍👍👍
@larryhurst89585 жыл бұрын
Scanner Danner did a nice video on this setup, bad Volvo techs.
@epjose66075 жыл бұрын
It costs 400,000 dollars to fix this volvo for 12 seconds.
@Spindrift_GR4005 жыл бұрын
Okay so I am having the same problem on my 2007 S60 T5. This video is incredibly informative, but, being a novice at repair, I don't know what that power source you connected to the fuel pump was. What is it and where can I buy it?
@caduceus335 жыл бұрын
Let's see. Part 2: Pop open module, spray green crusties with De-Oxit, rub with toothbrush, blow out with air, re-solder 5 cracked solder joints. Install module, call customer to pick up vehicle.
@alanfarenden93785 жыл бұрын
LOL
@thesteaktc5 жыл бұрын
I want to hear the conversation when you call Volvo to tell them they were wrong. Also, can't wait for part 2. And what about all the other dealer observations? Do you agree with those?
@dpeagles5 жыл бұрын
Weird, you didn't show up in my subscription feed yet.
@CSkwirl5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not showing up in mine either, everything is enabled/ticked and on multiple devices this video doesn't show in my subscription feed. Something is up
@tengelgeer5 жыл бұрын
On most Volvo's you can turn off the headlights with a small screw-switch near the lightswitch.
@marscruz5 жыл бұрын
The dealer wants $6000 for a fuel pump control module and labor. Probably a blown SCR or transistor in it, maybe a capacitor. Ivan will probably fix it for $5 in parts and possibly a couple hundred bucks in labor, or less, since he's a friend.
@kostelectronics5 жыл бұрын
I whould remove the CEM and open it. It's a very common fault that these modules becoming water inside and corrodes the PCB. I had this many many times. You need to disassemble the whole CEM to fix it. BR Matthias from switzerland!
@noelhernandez50165 жыл бұрын
PDM, i think its the Power Distribution Module. Another fancy name for a fuse block with internal computer.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the brand...so many acronyms these days!
@mrkzj5 жыл бұрын
That dealer email is incredible. I used to be a Volvo dealer service advisor... still enjoy the cars and own a bunch of them myself, including two stick turbo V70s like this one. But couldn't deal with the clueless techs and miserable dealer lifestyle 😂 What's up with that Oldsmobile Dustbuster?? Is it for sale?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 жыл бұрын
It will be up for sale once I fix it up :)
@mrkzj5 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Let me know please!
@zciwonapo5 жыл бұрын
Common to change out PEM when doing the fuel pump since you're there anyway. Been there, done that. Was probably the PEM all the time in my car as the reason the pump stopped. First 5 seconds of start should be at 55psi then drops to 43 at idle until under load.