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I forgot about this but yeah. Take your distance and add a decimal point to the very end of it and simply move the decimal point to the left 2 spaces and that will give you the drop in mils and how much you would need to dial up. I've got a really good one for wind calculations using a basic easy to make protractor anemometer and mirage. All you need is a transparent protractor, a 6 inch long piece of clear fishing line and a small ping pong/table tennis ball. Tie the fishing line in the bottom hole and you can either tape or glue the other end to the ball. Hold the protractor upside down to where the fishing line is even with the 90 degree mark and you have yourself a poor man's anemometer. I do the same with mirage at the target area with my scope. It works extremely well. Protractor Windspeeds: 90 degrees 0 MPH 80 degrees 8 MPH 70 degrees 12 MPH 60 Degrees 15 MPH 50 Degrees 18 MPH 40 Degrees 21 MPH 30 Degrees 26 MPH 20 Degrees 33 MPH

Thanks, I'll digest this some. I don't know anything at this point except kentucky windage out to my eyesite limit. Example I do not know "dial up to between" If you get the time and you don't mind answering let me know. Thanks,T

@@knightmare1015ill have to try this out!

​@thomaswall4285 the idea is that you use a ballistics calculator or data on previous engagements to figure our your trajectory to start. From there, you just adjust your zero up until your drop in MILs conveniently matches your range in yards if move the decimal over a couple of spaces. You no longer have a 100 yard zero or what have you. But you have adjusted your zero such that you don't have to calculate your drop within a given range. You just take the yardage, move your decimal to the left two places, and that is your hold over. I hope this helps.

Thanks

Surprising how well this actually works, cause if I used that trick with my rifle I would only be off by 2.6 MOA at 800 so ~8.5" low at 800. That's not bad.

What fucking language is this

@@EvWine I personally would add a .25 MOA for every 500 yards, or portion thereof, of range to target. by the way, 2.6 MOA at 800 yards is over 16 inches.

I’m at 21.6 for 800 yards

Nice, how many metres for your zero?

@@kevinkane9419 100 meter zero for majority of my rifles mate.

Over 700m are you saying it’s -2 +0.4mil? So for 800 meters it would be 6.04mil is this correct. Also have you tried this formula with any other rounds?

Awesome rifle and cartridge, scope will get you started however it gets super confusing with both moa and mils. should just pick one or the other. both are good, I use moa SFP hunting and mils FFP for target.

Right on - the trusty .308 is tough to beat. Thanks for tuning in! :)

Check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6ebgJmHs6-dpY0.html

Heck yeah - let us know how it works with your setup!

@@VortexNation After testing out to 600yds. I find this spot on. Thank You.

@@ctech01 That is awesome!

Just mounted the same scope on a Tikka in 6.5CM. Hoping for great results too!

Stocking up on all reloading supplies over the last 30 years.

Minus two

combining both as DMR is deadly as fuck, you are in between -1,6 to -2.0 as "speed drop" with most loadouts for "close range" you use mpbr (witch is like 1,0-1,7 mrad) so its around 300m mark and BDC (as a result for speed drop) for further targets

I do it manually in spread sheet

What about a 200 yard zero?(my local range only goes to 200)

Why go with a 250 yard zero? I've never heard of anyone doing this. What is the logic?

@@olddog401 almost everyone did 250 for decades. They may have described it as a "battle zero" or "3 inches high at 100" but the fact remains: the best zero in most cases will be just a little low at 300. Otherwise known as 250

@@dopeoplereally3972 I use a 250 (battle zero) on my 6.5CM for Whitetail Deer. Over 90% my shots are 25 to 350 yards. A 250 zero is MPBR (maximum point bland range) at 300 yards with 125g Winchester Deer Season XP. This guarantees never being more than 3.2 inches high and never more than 3.7 inches low from the muzzle to 300 yards which is perfect for Whitetail...just point and shoot. - I am going to give that "subtract 3 mil" hack a try at the range for 400+ shots!

Okay

Yup

I am about to sound retarded...dial from what? Do I need to zero at 200 yds first?

I'll add, kindve works with 5.56. Zero at one hundred, just dial up one mil per hundred out to 500 and it's close enough to walk it in. Ammo dependant its with in minute of man at least.

Noted - thanks for the suggestion!

Yawn

Really? That's super cool!

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KRG Bravo

Yes, zero @ 100Y.

Yes, that is based on a 100 yard zero.

Makes sense if you think about it… higher elevation less dense air=less drag on the cartridge… holds velocity so less time of flight so less drop due to gravity.

3.4 MOA per mil; so call it 7 MOA per 2 mil. Range minus 2x3.4 should be ball park MOA.

@@paulharveu526 I have a MOA too and shooting at a 300 yard range on Sunday. What should I try?

The "life hack" won't work out as cleanly with MOA as it is a different angular measurement. This specific trick is designed around using MILS. If you follow this hack you would simply need to divide the MIL number by .3 to get the MOA value.

Thank you Paul Harveu and Vortex for the help and information. I appreciate it

@@taz9075 Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation!🤜🤛

24 to 26

Not really. All rifles will be different, but with most common match loads, a 24" is very commonly in the right ballpark.

@@VortexNation Thanks =)

@@VortexNation Sooo, Definitely not going to work with the old deer rifle with 22” barrel?

@@Bigfish1day Ehhhhhh probably not exactly. haha

Right on!

6.5 is already cheaper and NATO is going that way instead of the 308 as is.

We'll add it to the idea board!

@@VortexNation Thank you!

@@infantilepillock1687 You bet!

Not so! Dont they use MoA in golf!

@@dragonflyfab9703 I don't know about what they use for golf. I reload, shoot and build therefore I am.

Unless your scope has 1/20 mil clicks, you are not even close. To be clear I am talking about target shooting. A game at my local range is hitting penny size target at 300 yards. It is more difficult using 1/10 mil click scope than an 1/8 moa click scope. They both have their places.

@@fivex4756 Is that 0.1705 shooter minutes or 0.1705 angular minutes?

@@dragonflyfab9703 1/20 or 0.05 milliradian is 0.1719 minute of arc or angle.

That's super cool! We'll definitely check that out - thanks for passing it along :)

MoA is for golf.

There is: With a 200 yd zero as before, but instead of range minus 2, it's range times 3 minus 7.

You are correct. This trick is great for a rule of thumb, but to be the most accurate you would want to run the ammo you are shooting through a ballistic calculator.