Springs can be tricky and I’ve also lost a few along the way but I now have feel for them and mishaps are less common. Rodico saves lives!!

Ну молодец ! Есть у русских хорошая к этому случаю поговорка : Умный учится на чужих ошибках ,а дураку и свои не помогают !

My Russian friend concurs with this statement….lmao

So funny ❤. Mike is the best ❤

Thank you Sir

It wasn't so much about avoiding patents, as commies don't believe in property rights, much less property of western capitalists. It was moreso "how can we simplify this basic principle and mass produce it out of the cheapest material for assembly by unskilled, unfed workers?"

@@RockandrollNegro The fact you use the term "commies" may show a certain dare I say it American bias to your opinion. Never midn a lack of understanding around the water resistant design involved. It's actually more complex and requires more parts than the standard caseback and seal. The same "commies" watch industry was started on an industrial scale in the 1930 when they bought and paid for the US Hampden watch company and shipped tonnes of equipment and 30 American staff over to Russia to help set it up. After the war that in essence became the First Moscow Watch factory where they produced all sorts of timepieces. While states spied on and stole other state's secrets- and the USSR was certainly not alone in this - it was for the most part around the military end, less so the commercial end and the Soviets were happy to sell Soviet made watches outside the country as it earned them hard currency, so they were quite aware of existing patents that could scupper that. You will find plenty of Soviet era made watches with English rather than Russian on the dials and casebacks. They were for export. Similarly when quartz came along they developed their own internally and copied or not as much as the Swiss did from the Japanese and Americans. Sekonda were originally a Soviet made watch company that was exporting to the West with different brands on the dials from the late 1960's and well into the digital watch 80's. And the Russians are anything but "unskilled" engineers or workers. Who stole all the firsts in the Space Race before Apollo? Who after the Shuttle was retired were ferrying people into space and with significantly fewer accidents than the Shuttle? They produced the most consistent near earth orbit system of the 20th into the 21st century. And they did it with significantly less input and help from other nations. I'll have some of that "unskilled" labour please.

@@MrGrentch I suggest you ignore Mr. Smith if he tries to be fresh with you in his response. Everything you said was true. The political system of the USSR was deeply flawed, yes, but their consumer goods were generally no better or worse than any other nation. Wristwatches were no exception to this and are fantastic values today due to Cold War-era fear-mongering. The Soviets also pioneered a lot of things besides space exploration with workers and engineers who were definitely skilled. Antarctic expeditions, the development of the mobile telephone, and the human-capable anthrax vaccine all come to mind.

Dat waps you up ,you wascally wabbit!

@@MrGrentch The only point i will take issue with in your comment is that you refer to is as " Russian " . It was the Soviet Union and a lot of the skilled workers came not from "Russia" but the member countries of the Soviet Union. A lot of the skilled work as done in Ukraine or by Ukrainian workers. Russia itself has not done a lot since the break up of the Soviet Union

Thank you. This is one of my older videos now.

@@MyRetroWatches yes I know. I still wanted you to see my thought. 🙂

Hi David hope all is well sir.

@@MyRetroWatches yes I am doing fine Michael, still obsessed with watches and enjoying these videos. Thanks for asking.

Very good summing up there and all so true. I service a lot of Seikos now for others and mainly because the pro's are not interested in the work as its not a viable option. Hobbyist with a passion you can potentially get as good a job.

Thanks for your insight. I certainly want to see an original now If the case on mine is original and I think it is then it would be nice to accumulate all the parts together and turn this one back to spec. Thanks for watching and good luck with your first service.

@@MyRetroWatches you can find lots of those movements on etsy for some reason - for 10pounds i got 18 of them, some working, some not, but maybe as beginner i will be able to make at least one working. :) Thanks for video

Good luck with that. Harder than you think 💭 I’ll tell you. Mike is a pro

well if the crown is done up at the time.... ?

These watches were designed for the military. That's why the wobbly crown is a thing. It is however hell annoying if you own a manual wound model...

Im positive that this watch is franken too, although I think it was made recently as the diall looks too good and is probably a modern fake

This is a more positive way to look at this so I thank you for that. I am no the fence at being made to deceive, more just someone making a bit of money from parts. Either way it was an experience and a lesson for me.

@@staszeksowikowski9039 I am in agreement. many genuine parts but not all from the right watch! dial I think i not right for sure but then I can find examples online that look the same. Not having ever seen an original in my hand I cant compare.

Well Said, thanks

Thanks. I now will look for 100% genuine and would like to do a comparison.

@@MyRetroWatches this is 100% a Vostock watch, or possibly two. It is genuine but it is possible the movement was swapped and the dial feet position didn't match. The 2209 was used in the earlier years of the 60s and 70s, later replaced by the 2416 with date, so not at all sure as this is clearly not an old dial or case. Perhaps a Franken, perhaps not, but definitely genuine, and who cares anyway, as there is so much interchangeability. These are still made today, with exactly the same design and construction as the originals, but perhaps a little less quality than the Soviet era.

@@alastairwright77 That is correct. Recently, I have learned a couple of things about Vostok. There are many hundreds of combinations of cases, dials, bezels, and movements. Vostok watches are dirt cheap; it would be impossible to build a "fake" for a price lower than a genuine one. Reading and studying about Vostok, I have become a big fan of this former CCCP brand. It is an honest product for an honest price. I definately like the Vostok Amphibia.

I bought a used komandirski in 1990 for 30 Mark and my "version" was different. I lost her by fishing and maybe I can't remember her look completely but the bezel was more flat and the crown less big. The print on the dial also was more fine. At least, it was an automatic. Very different.

Yep, but they were never so bad as to glue the dials on, hehe, so someone has definitely been there before

Can't believe I've just bought a broken Lada watch based on watching this...

Thank you.

Thank you so much!

Thanks

Thank you A few of you here in the comments have mentioned the 2414 which I might have to seek out eventually and turn this watch back to its original state.

@@MyRetroWatches Would be nice to see it but additionally except movement a new movement ring (or holder) and could be also a new dial could be needed

Thanks for watching!

Thanks Tony this is great to hear. Since my Vostok video and realising I had a lemon watch I’ve been interested in buying a genuine version.

Yes this one was almost a bridge too far

Thank you very much. its the micro engineering that I like also, and the aesthetics.

More to come!

Thanks it’s certainly loud!

Glad you enjoyed it

Thank you. Yes this one was challenging and really I still need to get it running better. Really glad you enjoyed my struggles.

Thank you John, It definitely tested me which makes for good video.

Thank you. Just takes time and anyone can learn all this.

Thank you very much! Its a fantastic hobby which can throw up some interesting problems!

Thank you Dennis