Why the US government is always shutting down

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How the US can shut down but other countries can’t
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Towards the end of every year the countdown until the United States government goes into a shutdown begins. Congress and the President usually avoid it in the last hour, but sometimes they don’t manage to agree on a spending bill and the government actually shuts down. The US is really the only country that does this.
The longest one in history, in 2019, lasted 35 days. Federal workers - and many contractors - didn’t get a paycheck for 35 days. Some of those employees were furloughed, meaning they didn’t have to go into work, but more than half of them still had to go into the office unpaid.
So… why? It goes back to the Constitution and how the federal government funds its agencies. We talk to a law professor and workers who have been through a shutdown to explain.
Read more about solutions to government shutdowns on Vox: www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...
Or get into the details of the previous shutdowns: sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/RS20348.pdf
The Washington Post did some great reporting on the affect the 2019 shutdown had on contractors, specifically: www.washingtonpost.com/graphi...
And learn more about the most recent time Belgium didn’t have a formed government: www.brusselstimes.com/belgium...
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@Nick-kz6dg 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that Congress still gets paid during a shutdown that THEY cause while regular employees are forced to work without pay, is disgusting.

@sauveylindsey3378 2 жыл бұрын

John Fetterman 2024 🇱🇷

@gracebaldwin5534 2 жыл бұрын

I did hear a rationale once for why Congress does get paid during shutdowns. It's because it is to prevent more politicking. Some members of congress are much poorer/wealthier than others so paying reps even during a shutdown ensures that members dont use shutdowns to bully/coerce members.

@arthas640 2 жыл бұрын

Depressing how both parties support this system and make little to no effort to actually improve things

@jaysantana3078 2 жыл бұрын

@stund ogha anyone can be wealthy a lot of y’all just like to work for ppl

@kurtkurtman2858 Жыл бұрын

cut they pay off I bet they make better choices.

@giordanobruno1333 2 жыл бұрын

If Congress can’t do it’s job, they should be the first not paid. I’m fact, they shouldn’t receive any compensation until the end of their term.

@Comrade.Question 2 жыл бұрын

Like a government salary is their main source of income.

@TheZachary86 2 жыл бұрын

These politicians are wealthy and can go a year without pay. Rather these politicians deserve no back-pay, and I would add financial penalties as well for each week that the budget isn’t resolved

@bl5752 2 жыл бұрын

Well, it's only one group in congress who keep shutting down the government. Maybe stop voting for them?

@DWErickson2112 2 жыл бұрын

Here is the real joke! The average American would agree which is the majority! And yet it will never happen! WHAT A JOKE AYE!

@profitmuhammed 2 жыл бұрын

Government salary was never their source of income, it is like their pocket money to them, but the benefit from companies backing them up during their election is their true man income

@Twas-RightHere 2 жыл бұрын

If every other country has a standard and functional way of doing something, you can always trust the US to make it difficult.

@RamdomView 2 жыл бұрын

USA is running on a heavily patched Alpha of democracy.

@rjfaber1991 2 жыл бұрын

As Winston Churchill is alleged to have said: "You can always rely upon the US to do the right thing, after they've exhausted all other options". Clearly they're still exploring other options...

@kennethchou4384 2 жыл бұрын

@@RamdomView please buy them a new license

@mattiarubio3240 2 жыл бұрын

Reason being the us still follows an obsolete constitution that was written in the the 18th century, most European constitutions where written post ww2

@rjfaber1991 2 жыл бұрын

@@mattiarubio3240 Well, the thing is that they never revise the thing. The Dutch constitution is actually older than that of the US, but it is also completely revised every 30-40 years to make sure it remains relevant to a constantly changing world. Our current revision dates to the 1980s, so we're probably due one again soon. Plenty of other countries do the same thing. If only the US joined them, they would be in much better shape, democratically.

@TimeBucks 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative video

@TheMedicatedArtist 2 жыл бұрын

For once, I’d like to learn that the U.S. does something no other country does that’s actually beneficial to it’s citizens.

@ExpatZ266 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not going to happen.

@leorkoubi4626 2 жыл бұрын

We do, that's just not what the US news focuses on. We focus on how to improve, not just a party of our success.

@einfachnurleo7099 2 жыл бұрын

@@leorkoubi4626 please share them with us. As the original comment said and many people agreed by liking the comment we want to know.

@SmiIeyyXD 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm afraid no matter who's on office that's not happening.

@rushaunmilton3152 2 жыл бұрын

@@einfachnurleo7099 Infrastructure Bill signed not too recently

@alex-rs6ts 2 жыл бұрын

If the new funding isn't approved, shouldn't the last funding be the default?

@xolaya 2 жыл бұрын

thats what i thought

@kieran8921 2 жыл бұрын

The only argument against is that could become even more political as one party could effectively keep the budget from the previous year that they agree more with rather than getting a new one especially when there is a change of administrations.

@YoYodominoHD 2 жыл бұрын

@@kieran8921 Do you need 2/3 majority to pass the budget? If it's just 50+1 then a change in administrations doesn't matter for passing the budget, right?

@f3tsch906 2 жыл бұрын

According to another comment: thats indonesias tactic. And it works. So shouldnt be a problem

@TheRepublicOfUngeria 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Really, what there should be is just earmarks at set portions of GDP for various agencies, along with a UBI which can be given its own default earmark and be the place where all unspent surplus is directed. Congress should, ideally, rarely have to be involved in anything, they really should just be there to solidify and maintain freedoms, and ensure that particularly novel circumstances are reacted to accordingly. Most days for a congressman should be so boring that they can literally do some other job as their main job, just with the caveat that they may have to leave for more important business on The Hill at unexpected national emergencies. The only reason that it isn't this simple is that congress is too obsessed with creating internal problems that demand internal solutions rather than fixing the problems of the actual nation that it is supposed to work for. Congress is like if a car company made engines that could turn off if over 50% of the car company decided to turn off the engines, and their reason was "One day the car could run out of miles".

@334trax2 2 жыл бұрын

Things to learn here. 1. We need a more cooperative government for our citizens. 2. As an adult you need to prioritize getting an emergency fund. 3. We need a better medical system for people out of work.

@jiggaleepuff 2 жыл бұрын

This assumes you even have funds to put away in the event of an emergency. How about "As the richest country in the world the minimum wage should be something people can actually live off of"?

@334trax2 2 жыл бұрын

@@jiggaleepuff I said prioritize in my statement. We all have a story and I was raised poor. As Americans to many make excuses. Put in minimal effort in life get minimum wage.

@EyeonthePrize247 2 жыл бұрын

@@334trax2 “Minimum” wage doesn’t equal minimal effort. The whole purpose of minimum wage was to provide a quality standard of life for average families which unfortunately can no longer be done in today’s warped world.

@334trax2 2 жыл бұрын

@@EyeonthePrize247 it has always cost more than minimum wage to live as a family since at least 1993. I'm not saying people making minimum wage are putting in physically minimum effort. I'm saying they can move up or learn something to make more income. Focus on that instead of excuses. If I and many can do it , most can.

@EyeonthePrize247 2 жыл бұрын

@@334trax2 Exactly, and before then I’m sure! So, my point more so had to do with the fact that we’ve completely gone against what it was created for and it’s long been a concept used to demonize people. And I don’t disagree with you. We are in the land of opportunity after all. However, I am open to the fact that said opportunity has had many obstacles created whether intentionally or as a lasting consequence from other factors to prevent or curtail certain classes of individuals from advancing. Not to say they can’t but… I don’t know.

@thealienontheinternet 2 жыл бұрын

No offense, but you guys are out of your mind. Shutting down the Health and Human Services Agency is the absolute cherry on top of the cake. A masterpiece of madness.

@JatPhenshllem 2 жыл бұрын

How about you justify this?

@collaborativelearning1 Жыл бұрын

haha, excellent.

@Cian66 2 жыл бұрын

When parents don't agree on what to have for dinner, they don't stop making food for their children

@denniskelley2697 2 жыл бұрын

But in this system, the children are the ones making the food.

@callmeandoru2627 2 жыл бұрын

@@denniskelley2697 The parents just decided what kind of food to make

@curtrapp5291 2 жыл бұрын

You're not a child. So stop your whining and run for office.

@keishaj4143 2 жыл бұрын

And you’re an adult? And you couldn’t be nicer about it? ‘Then shut your mouth and move along.’

@brianmelendy1194 2 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting that the citizens are children?

@avinashlahane8467 2 жыл бұрын

The more I learn about US the more I get to know how messed up the country really is

@adithyabs3410 2 жыл бұрын

Lol same

@mal9369 2 жыл бұрын

Send help

@cybertrend8134 2 жыл бұрын

It’s easy to look past the countrie’s facade due to the rise of the internet.

@jaybee2745 2 жыл бұрын

It's our leaders corrupt and bought off by China and Russia. Just like the Build Back Beijing scam theyre trying to pass now

@idkhowtoright479 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaybee2745 don't he close minded my dude

@MobiusPeverell 2 жыл бұрын

You're missing the most important difference between the US and the rest of the world: in pretty much every other country, budgetary bills are matters of confidence. If a budget fails to pass, the legislature is dissolved & an election is held. If the new legislature can't pass a budget, it is dissolved again & another election is held. This repeats until the people elect a legislature that's capable of doing its job.

@gregnz1 2 жыл бұрын

only if the MPs vote against it, it rarely happens because of MP support.

@reddragon3132 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregnz1 Exactly. MPs of the governing party (who will have a majority) won't vote down the budget because they know that leads to their party going out of government.

@michaelkevinmirasol8256 Жыл бұрын

It only happens in a parliamentary system of government. Presidential ones are known for gridlocks of check and balances.

@SLHJR0390 14 күн бұрын

@@michaelkevinmirasol8256voting no isn’t a check or balance. It’s opposition gov

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@JamesBond-rb1ln 2 жыл бұрын

In Australia we have a deadlock provision in our constitution for when this happens and an election must be called if a spending bill can’t be passed a certain number of times. Politicians on both sides usually don’t want to do this so they usually end up compromising and getting it through

@kennethkho7165 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't they want it? Election is a zero-sum game, so it would be great to make the opponent look bad

@emrecankarabacak 2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethkho7165 because it can backfire, you try to force an election and the public sees you as the culprit in not getting paid you can lose seats as an opposition party.

@AWcinema 2 жыл бұрын

I'm American and I absolutely love this country. It provides me with a lifestyle that second to none other.. yes there's bad things about it but I can guarantee you there's a line of people 20 miles deep to get into this country because it is really a great place to be

@kennethkho7165 2 жыл бұрын

@@emrecankarabacak I didn't think of that, great

@RFLCPTR 2 жыл бұрын

@@AWcinema True patriots criticize their country to make it a better country in the future... Just saying

@wirasudewa8122 2 жыл бұрын

In Indonesia, the rules are quite simple. When the government failed to reach an agreement on the spending bill, we reused last year's bill again. But so far it never happened.

@fauzankhairi4502 2 жыл бұрын

nice

@rafaelvicho3551 2 жыл бұрын

I think it is the same in Philippines.

@icefl4re597 2 жыл бұрын

Indonesian too here. It should be per 2 years, honestly. It impairs the DPR's capability to pass bills. Oh, BTW, the max 3% deficit spending rule, the 60% of GDP max gov debt, should be constitutionalized. Also, full employment should be constitutionalized as well.

@fauzankhairi4502 2 жыл бұрын

@Cryforequanimity yes, they act like they dignity is more importent than peoples.

@rakeantl6730 2 жыл бұрын

@Cryforequanimity idk but that's a perfect idea to make both sides look bad. i just hope you guys there can make a change for the better

@dinahmyte3749 2 жыл бұрын

I like how she said "where would the incentive go?" ...like, the government doesn't have ANY incentive to work because they get paid regardless. If we DIRECTLY told our representation that they wouldn't get paid if they didn't meet their goals, we'd find change in government. Actually PUNISH our government. Not with OUR money, but theirs. No taxation without representation, no paid vacations when our country is in shambles...

@ronanmurphy98 2 жыл бұрын

In the UK, as with nearly all parliamentary systems modelled on Westminster, if the budget fails to pass, the government will collapse and snap elections are held. Controlling the money supply is imperative - in fact the actual title of the Prime Minister is the First Lord of the Treasury, indicative of how the executive governance arose from the ability to command the control of state revenue and expenditure.

@barneylaurance1865 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. And at the same time the UK public services will continue to spend money according the previous budget.

@Arltratlo 2 жыл бұрын

but right now the UK government is run by liars and corrupt ministers...so why is that a good example at all??

@devindoherty8728 2 жыл бұрын

This is so flawed. In Canada we call our appropriation bills Budget bills and if those don't pass it essentially acts as a no-confidence vote and an election is called.

@tackytaco8133 2 жыл бұрын

Same in India. Maybe it is common in the commonwealth countries

@paradoxmo 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, this is the way it works in parliamentary democracies, the prime minister just loses their job. Not so in presidential systems

@saintjupi 2 жыл бұрын

not to mention canada has measures to keep money flowing through government services so it won’t shutdown and government workers stil get paid

@DroloodMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much the same in Israel

@barneylaurance1865 2 жыл бұрын

And I guess the government agencies in Canada continue spending according to the previous budget bill until after the election happens and a new budget bill is passed.

@chimebath85 2 жыл бұрын

Can we all agree that we have one the most dysfunctional budget appropriation process in the developed world. This is madness.

@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын

No. We have THE MOST dysfunctional budget appropriation process even compared to some developing countries.

@connorcampbell5274 2 жыл бұрын

Blame democracy. Literally every problem with how the US government is run and operated falls back on warm body democracy. The American system, but really any democratic system, only functionally operates when there is a mutual respect between politicians and voters. Voters do not value their political force, so neither do politicians. So now we have 10trillion dollar spending bills. Funny that.

@ethandew1768 2 жыл бұрын

@@connorcampbell5274 your thinking of european and American democracy

@connorcampbell5274 2 жыл бұрын

@@ethandew1768 As opposed to what other?

@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын

USD is the only thing Im jealous of. The paycheck in USD is good right?

@bankerdave888 2 жыл бұрын

Just like the "Right to bear arms", this portion of the Constitution has been manipulated and misinterpreted by various special interests and politicians to suit their own needs.

@DanielGarcia-ms5wd 2 жыл бұрын

Shall not be infringed

@thepedrothethethe6151 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielGarcia-ms5wd And the National Militia?

@BossX2243 2 жыл бұрын

@@thepedrothethethe6151 You must be really bad at grammar if you think that the second amendment states that the right to bear arms is only for citizens in a national militia.

@theirishempire4952 2 жыл бұрын

@@BossX2243 the wording of the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution doean't help tho XD

@Distress. 10 ай бұрын

@@theirishempire4952 Its essay to understand if English is your first language.

@michaleandmore5111 2 жыл бұрын

It's like, US law makers, literally thought how can we cause the most inconvenience to everyone, while still being in power and doing the bare minimum

@KayoMichiels 2 жыл бұрын

Belgium: *laughs when it didn't had a new government form for 541 days*

@YourLocalMairaaboo 2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, Belgium gives way more autonomy to its subdivisions, and has a standart procedure to keep things going as if nothing happened. No budget plan? Copy the last one. Can't agree on policy change before a deadline? Keep the old one running until you do. And so on.

@Alusnovalotus 2 жыл бұрын

You don’t really need one

@seneca983 2 жыл бұрын

@@YourLocalMairaaboo "The thing is, Belgium gives way more autonomy to its subdivisions" I'm not so sure about that part, or at least "way more" sounds like an exaggeration. The US is a federal country and the states handle a lot of stuff. Of course, Belgium is a federal country too but it's not clear to me that its federal constituents are "way more" self governing than those of the US.

@JeeVeeHaych 2 жыл бұрын

@@seneca983 I don't know enough of the jurisdictions of US states to say, but Belgium's regions do have a lot of authority and increasingly so (it's a whole issue here, we've been through a number of state reforms that all fortified the regional authorities). What also comes into play is the EU: a lot of Belgian legislation is just passing laws drafted and agreed upon at the European level (also increasingly the case).

@seneca983 2 жыл бұрын

@@JeeVeeHaych As one example in the US states can have their own criminal law. I don't think Flanders or Wallonia can have their own criminal laws (correct me if I'm wrong).

@saurabhdas3412 2 жыл бұрын

In India, if the spending bill is not passed during the first day of the Budget session (February 1, or the first working day in February) then that amounts to a no-confidence motion and the government is required to resign.

@jakowako7157 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I didnt know that.That's what makes a top democracy.

@anirudhrao1415 2 жыл бұрын

As an Indian I did not know that

@fleuttre4510 2 жыл бұрын

@@jakowako7157 ah don't be blind our country if really corupt

@mukeshkonthoujam1480 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha... Good joke buddy..

@Anurag-xe2jp 2 жыл бұрын

It's easy to pass budgets in India because India doesn't have presidential system. So you can't become a prime minister without a majority in lower house.

@univocalgold1011 2 жыл бұрын

"Belgium with and without a government is the same Belgium, The US with and with a Government is not the same US" -my friend

@Arltratlo 2 жыл бұрын

Germany was out of a government in 2015/16 for 6 months....its still there...!

@richard_nj 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that this is something that exist and happens has always baffled me. I'm not from the US, so of course I can only judge through a lense of unfamiliarity, but it's kinda like so obvious that this a terrible way of handling that situation and that it benefits no one. I mean if your constitution causes a serious chance of having to lay off millions of workers and tank the economy year after year, then maybe.... there's something completely wrong with the constitution or the way it's interpreted? It's mind blowing that that's something that needs to be said and it isn't fixed...

@Ryman158 2 жыл бұрын

The funniest part is this literally can't happen on other countries.

@obrandondonaldson1208 2 жыл бұрын

When developing countries can handle their government better than the US.....

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

@@obrandondonaldson1208 we show them exactly what not to do, and Why.

@obrandondonaldson1208 2 жыл бұрын

@@mzaite Well yeah thats true

@shantanuranjan5462 2 жыл бұрын

@@obrandondonaldson1208 irony being majority of developing democracies are inspired by US' democracy

@WayneCXT99 2 жыл бұрын

@@obrandondonaldson1208 well, you are right and wrong

@Infrared73 2 жыл бұрын

Time to add a new law. The folks responsible for passing the budget cannot leave the building including for meals until resolved. Lock them inside. They can survive for weeks without food. A true test of their resolve.

@barneylaurance1865 2 жыл бұрын

So you want the budget to be decided based on which party can last longer without food? What would be the point of that?

@Wickedtingzz 2 жыл бұрын

@@barneylaurance1865 hunger games baby

@kenos911 2 жыл бұрын

@@barneylaurance1865 winning party gets to experience food wars in real life. Truly a sight to behold

@artfairy2854 2 жыл бұрын

What is wrong with America in general? This country freaks me out more and more with every day that it’s passing by…

@jackclinkenbeard6796 Жыл бұрын

No budget, no pay for Congress or President and Vice President! Or everyone gets 20% pay cut.

@pixality7902 2 жыл бұрын

If "essential employees" are required to work without pay its slavery (obviously milder than our history of chattel slavery). If they are going to mandate certain positions, they need to have a separate fund that covers it when they are playing games.

@NoHandleToSpeakOf 2 жыл бұрын

Seem like essential employees are expected to factor this cost in by themselves. Perhaps compensate unpaid days by spreading over paid ones. It is a detriment anyway.

@blinking_dodo 2 жыл бұрын

@@NoHandleToSpeakOf Seems like the essential employees should be introduced to unions... Just collectively not show up for work when they aren't getting paid, and blame the consequences on its employer. That should make the people at the top a bit more aware of their responsebilities

@frankalmanzar3492 2 жыл бұрын

They get compensated for it later.

@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын

@@NoHandleToSpeakOf getting paid by the day or hour is pretty backward to begin with

@martinrotvig 2 жыл бұрын

You don’t have to beat up people for them to be slaves, you just have to force them to work without pay.

@WanukeX 2 жыл бұрын

The US Is odd Internationally, most countries just force an Emergency Legislative Election to clear the slate if a deadlock between the Executive and Legislative Branches occurs, in some countries a Budget Bill being voted down also forces one.

@ryanjacobs836 2 жыл бұрын

In the US the only forced elections are done by recall and that’s only at the state level

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

That’s because most countries have working checks and balances.

@alex-brs 2 жыл бұрын

@@mzaite Deadlock encourages checks and balances.

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

@@alex-brs In no way does it.

@kimkristensen2816 2 жыл бұрын

The country lives on borrowed money anyway

@Hanaboy100 10 ай бұрын

Here we go again....

@dhruvkaneria2837 2 жыл бұрын

In India we call it the budget and if it fails in the parliament it's considered a vote of no confidence.

@sbond7510 2 жыл бұрын

Federal contractor here in DC. It’s like being in an abusive relationship with the federal govt. I had to accept that I will never get back pay during a shutdown.

@blinking_dodo 2 жыл бұрын

What if you just "don't do work" when the government is shut down? Wouldn't that solve the problem?

@boygenius538_8 2 жыл бұрын

@@blinking_dodo then you get fired

@boygenius538_8 2 жыл бұрын

, and you still miss out on pay

@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын

This is one major reason why I'm hesitant to take a government job despite the fact that they are some of the best paying in my field. You end up becoming essentially not getting paid for anywhere from a few days to a few months a year with no way to know how long.

@Advocata 2 жыл бұрын

Without getting into specifics, not trying to ask for your personal information... what is it that you do for me? Is it really that important? Sincerely, The Taxpayer

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@electron8262 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really liked the proportional circles representing each institution.

@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Portugal not only there isn't the possibility of government shutdown, we've actually had the opposite happening. During certain times in the past where there was political turmoil, coups, civil wars and the like and there was no political leader or functioning government, all the normal government services continued working as usual, wages being paid, etc, as long as it was needed, sometimes for a few days, I believe at the most it was a couple of weeks. It's actually pretty remarkable how in those situations everyone just kept doing their jobs as normal.

@Reybowarrior09 10 ай бұрын

Ah $*it Here We Go Again

@Jprice141788 2 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry what TSA agents are smiling and greeting anyone?! 😂

@GR-dw9nm 2 жыл бұрын

Add a clause that removes money from the military funding to pay federal workers during shutdown I bet it won't even scrape the surface of that 400billion allocated to them.

@blinking_dodo 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a great idea. And when you are at it, remove 100 billion of military funding, and use that to repay a part of the debt you have.

@legokingtm9462 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't it 780 billion?

@martinrotvig 2 жыл бұрын

A brilliant idea. America could even cut its military budget by 1/3 without loosing any military power at all.

@fatstacksfatlips8708 2 жыл бұрын

@@martinrotvig That doesn’t make any sense

@blinking_dodo 2 жыл бұрын

@@martinrotvig and if they were to stop harassing small remote nations, they won't even need that much military.

@capivara6094 2 жыл бұрын

You guy's government can actually SHUT DOWN?! Man, the US never ceases to amaze me.

@evilload 2 жыл бұрын

Government shut down is a misnomer. Some government departments are classified emergency essential (for example Social Security Adm) and will still be working, but at a reduced capacity (not being able to issue cards etc...). National Parks Adm would be shut down for the duration (and lose any revenue potential during that time). Depending on the department, the employee(s) would be furloughed (with back pay later on), work without pay (with back pay later on) or work and pay (normal operations).

@__dane__ 2 жыл бұрын

Vox has done videos on this in the past. I’m happy to see that this time they talked with the people most affected by it

@jijumonm2345 2 жыл бұрын

Well the politician's paychecks should get stopped too. Such a broken system

@dachshunddoggo2764 2 жыл бұрын

its funny how the US was formed to be anti-monarchy while simultaneously eventually feeding the dynasties of the Democrats and Republicans

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, they don’t live on or even need those paychecks.

@barneylaurance1865 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that give an strategic advantage to politicians with other wealth or other income?

@jijumonm2345 2 жыл бұрын

@@barneylaurance1865 true. I guess the rich always get all the advantages no matter what. Anyways, I was just angry at the fact that essential workers can be made to work, but not essential enough to get paid.

@jgcaba3173 2 жыл бұрын

In Canada, the Prime Minister only needs a simple majority in the House to pass a budget. If she can’t, then the government falls and we go back to elections.

@Advocata 2 жыл бұрын

The only "she" to hold that job could only hold the job for 132 days.

@moisuomi 2 жыл бұрын

“She” lol hilarious

@personone8415 10 ай бұрын

Showing up without pay is indentured servitude. Shut down shows how much our politicians care about who they represent oh waite its not us its businesses they care about

@debarunkarmakar 2 жыл бұрын

In India, if the appropriation bill is not passed by 1st February it amounts to a no-confidence motion and the government resigns. So it's the politicians who are out and not the essential service employees.

@thecrippledpancake9455 2 жыл бұрын

So they have an entire new government every year?

@debarunkarmakar 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecrippledpancake9455 Nah, the fear of being out of the government forces them to cooperate

@rosedruid 2 жыл бұрын

@7:33 they say the parties grow apart, they include arrows pointing in opposite directions… but the liberal part of the chart shows essentially static yet still gets blamed for what is obviously the conservative side dragging the Center line firmly into their comfort zone by moving the goal posts.

@JamEngulfer 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that too. When they say government is getting more polarised, it seems to split the blame, but it’s only ever the Republicans.

@simonstevenson6686 2 жыл бұрын

Hey fellow Stevenson

@AC-im4hi 2 жыл бұрын

The idea is supposed to be to keep spending under control. The shutdown is pointless if you can just vote to spend more money.

@spateri728 2 жыл бұрын

Not when one parties spending comes into effect on the next party and vice versa. It's just sad. Not democracy.

@Ryman158 2 жыл бұрын

If they can't agree on a budget there should be an immediate election to find people who can. This is literally how it works in 80% of the planet

@tanjoy0205 2 жыл бұрын

The democratics should just scale back the bill or don’t tie it to other bi-partisan bills

@sundhaug92 2 жыл бұрын

Except the shutdown is for spending that's already OK-ed by congress

@gamefreak173 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryman158 there is people that have been in office for over 40 years... this is the problem they are so out of touch with reality and prefer to live in their bubble. I didn't care much before but after listening to the Zuckerberg case these people who hold power have very ancient views. It doesn't help this video also showed how people abused it since the beginning as well.

@colleenposley1084 2 жыл бұрын

"Essential" employees really changed definitions once C19 hit. Maybe we should be revisiting this whole line of thought.

@abdul-qf2fe 10 ай бұрын

Why isn't cutting government spending applied/ agreed, avoiding all the headache of shutdown😎

@ericaarcadia7178 2 жыл бұрын

Here in the Philippines like in many other countries, the government will use last year's budget until a new one is passed. It has happened a couple of times already, though this effectively stopped new projects from being funded so it is a loss for the administration. This is why the administration and its allies will try to make sure a budget is passed so their projects for the year can push through.

@michaelkevinmirasol8256 Жыл бұрын

and because of that, even if no actual shutdowns have occurred - it felt like one already, some gov't employees have delayed or no salaries for 3-6 months.

@MaJuV 2 жыл бұрын

America, where politicians willingly play with the livelihoods of tends of thousands of federal workers because "it's the only time we can argue to make laws". Jeezes, man. Just let the current regulation continue until you are finished bickering. Don't play with lives like that. How selfish can these American politicians be?

@the_rubbish_bin 2 жыл бұрын

Bad thing is the Politician's pay is uninterrupted. They don't care about the people.

@jalicea1650 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Republicans are the ones shutting the government down repeatedly and offensively...

@pepeokatze 2 жыл бұрын

@@jalicea1650 Democrats* there I fixed your comment 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

@Sammyconray 2 жыл бұрын

@@pepeokatze 👍

@deibryangp 2 жыл бұрын

In the Philippines, when no budget is passed, the reenacted budget is used. Meaning the same budget plan in the previous year will be used.

@xertacy 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I’ve learned more about the US government on this channel than in my US government class

@antonhilbig795 2 жыл бұрын

its so messed up, like americans are so proud, that they still live by the constitution written hundreds of years ago, when it actually hurts their country in so many ways. its so hard to get anything done in a political system written for a time that just isnt existant anymore. like maybe back then it worked, but now its just a different world and the politics should be too

@victorcode2075 2 жыл бұрын

USA: We are the most in debt country in the history of the world. Also the USA: Why can't we pass a budget?

@Darkmattermonkey77 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine If when the government shutdown for any period of time, we could deduct those days from our taxes? No government = no taxes right?

@deamon5959 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting when that graph is referenced at 7:30 for increasing political polarization. Not sure how accurate it is but interesting that the liberal portion is marginally increasing while the conservative portion has essentially doubled (increased much more than the liberal portion). It would also be interesting to see the graph go back much further in the countries history (basically as far as it can go).

@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t they just make a law that effectively makes them use last year’s budget when it lapses?

@sanjayrai2934 2 жыл бұрын

That will end like bismark

@michalslusarski 2 жыл бұрын

This is mentioned in the video

@nielspeelen5748 2 жыл бұрын

They can. But they won't.

@SmiIeyyXD 2 жыл бұрын

That would never happen.

@IkeOkerekeNews 2 жыл бұрын

@@SmiIeyyXD It will happen.

@ajaykumar-vw1rg 2 жыл бұрын

As per the Indian Parliamentary convention, it imposes a bill called the “Vote on Account” bill along side the Appropriation bill, which releases a fund of atleast 2/6th or 1/10th of the funds of previous year amount, which is more than enough for the government to run until Appropriation bill is passed. After the Appropriation bill is passed, only the remaining funds are released, so in a way at the end the parliament votes for both the Vote on Account funds and the Appropriation funds at one go. Edit: On top of this, if the Appropriation bill is not passed within the budget session, it amounts to no-confidence motion and the government would resign.

@Anurag-xe2jp 2 жыл бұрын

It's easy to pass budgets in India because India doesn't have presidential system. So you can't become a prime minister without a majority in lower house.

@bonappetit7522 2 жыл бұрын

If the budget does not pass any conditions in the parliament, then it is understandable that the ruling party is a minority. Technically, this means that the government has lost its vote of confidence in Lok Sabha and must resign. Although it has not happened so far.

@ashtreylil1 2 жыл бұрын

I asked this question in the comments a long time ago. Thanks 😁

@SirSX3 2 жыл бұрын

This is my go to answer every time an American talk about how they are the "greatest country" or, when they try to "educate" developing countries into using a Presidential system instead of a Parliamentary system or a semi-presidential one. You can talk about "Separation of Powers" all you want, bro; parliamentary system will never get a government shutdown.

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

Also they throw shoes at each other. Think how different Mitch McConnell would behave if he risked taking a Ferragamo to that wrinkled lipless food hole he calls a mouth.

@catprog 2 жыл бұрын

1975 Australia. That would of been a government shutdown. The difference is what happens when the budget fails to pass. In that case everyone gets kicked out and a new election is held. Their is nothing stopping a Presidential system from having the same rule nor a parliamentary system shutting down the government without said rule.

@Distress. 10 ай бұрын

This is not the own you think it is.

@mj29metoo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative video. I've learned a lot about government shut. Prior, I did not understand the impact it's having on essential working people with bills and loved ones they have to care for. Imagine going 35 days without getting paid is though-I think it's going to get wrost for us in the US 😪

@carbonforms 2 жыл бұрын

Like all horribly dysfunctional things in modern American politics, this started in the 1980’s.

@ObservableObserver 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Ronald Reagan's presidency is basically the monster lurking under the bed of modern american politics.

@MaJuV 2 жыл бұрын

Reagan... it's always Reagan era politics.

@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын

@@ObservableObserver This has been a thing since the Carter administration, but Reagan fully embraced it.

@JosieTrent367 2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 Can you explain how?

@JosieTrent367 2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 How was Reagan a great president? A lot of the policies he and his administration helped put into motion have had a massively detrimental effect on the economy since. Trickle down being one of the worst things.

@jjakeroman Жыл бұрын

“Shutdown” feels like an intro to the purge

@Kaiser7068 2 жыл бұрын

I have a very simple solution for this… I propose that if the Congress cannot decide itself on a new appropriation bill for the year to come, the same as the one of the previous year will be used in order to prevent Government shutdown.

@pearcomputers2542 2 жыл бұрын

7:26 "and as the political ideology of congress grows further apart each year" those yellow arrows may try to tell a diffrent story, but what i'm seeing is that the "more conservative" fraction is clearly steadily raising and "more liberal" isn't actually really changing.

@anneoever84 2 жыл бұрын

Also, I don't get the y-axis. How is .5 further from 0 than 2.5?

@cool_sword 2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly it. Right wing radicalization with a liberal media and culture that can only culture that can only conceive of things happening to both sides. How do you successfully run Biden against Trump and think both sides are running apart from each other? How do you have so many moderates while the other party cleans house and think both sides are growing apart? How can your party elite be so much older. Etc., etc., etc. Liberal media is quite literally delusional.

@pearcomputers2542 2 жыл бұрын

@@anneoever84 I would guess the dot shouldn't have been there and it's intended as -5 and 5?

@anneoever84 2 жыл бұрын

@@pearcomputers2542 That sounds like a logical explanation, thanks!

@ProulxS 2 жыл бұрын

VoteView website show 0.5 being correct but it should be 0.25. Tried to find the axis unit without success. I believe it's deflection from the norm but my schooling is too long ago to remember how impactful a 0.5 deflection actually is or if just really zoomed because it's so small.

@johneasmith9678 2 жыл бұрын

I am a flight attendant. When the TSA workers were not being paid we started a fund within the pilot's and flight attendants to buy gift cards and cash to the TSA workers to help out. We were pretty much immediately stopped by the government and our company. We were issued an official memo that said giving these gifts would be considered bribing and we would at minimum lose our security privileges or at maximum be fined or imprisoned for bribing public officials.

@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын

That's really tragic.

@NormalCleanCars 2 жыл бұрын

This happened in Canada when we went from payroll being made by hand to a software. Well the software had a bug and no one got paid. The issue lasted for a few years and cost an extra 1 billion to fix. My girlfriend didn't get paid for 4 months straight working everyday... Software being Phoenix system for the government.

@LamirLakantry 2 жыл бұрын

There's an easy fix for this. If the government shuts down, the employees get payed from the personal pockets of all members of congress and the president until that runs dry. I'm pretty sure they'd get to an agreement rather quickly then.

@joachimschoder 2 жыл бұрын

Somebody in congress had the great idea of deciding that instead of actually reducing the spending or raise the income it would make more sense to set a arbitrary number at which the US will just stop paying their bills. They still have the spend all the money defined in multiple laws but they can't borrow money to pay for all the stuff they are legally required to pay. And the Republican thought it would be a great idea to force the US government to stop paying their bills to ram through legislation that they couldn't get passed otherwise.

@assasin19991999 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

I mean yea basically. This is all part of the same war on America Nixonian Republicans started following the debacle of Viet Nam to punish us for questioning them.

@christiankroemer4267 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose one alternative is to just tweak that AG's interpretation to where departments are only allowed to pay their employees, but all other spending is restricted.

@LTymeEdits 2 жыл бұрын

I was to also remind though, "without pay" is kind of true, once funding is back, you get back pay. If you are contracted, you do not get back pay (because 1. You aren't working in a shut down, 2. you are not a federal employee)

@rubypmpn6696 10 ай бұрын

You should make another video on this wanna see what's gonna be affected this year

@yurielastillero506 2 жыл бұрын

My country was once a colony of the United States, from 1898 to 1946, and we had a piece of legislation before that authorizes a legislature to reenact the previous year's budget, in order to avoid government shutdown. Until now, we still have that practice, as it is prescribed in the 1987 Philippine Constitution - Article VI, Section 25, Paragraph 7: If, by the end of any fiscal year, the Congress shall have failed to pass the general appropriations bill for the ensuing fiscal year, the general appropriations law for the preceding fiscal year shall be deemed reenacted and shall remain in force and effect until the general appropriations bill is passed by the Congress. I think the United States should amend its Constitution that would reflect to what my country should avoid, especially a government shutdown.

@heybudi 2 жыл бұрын

Same as Indonesia

@yurielastillero506 2 жыл бұрын

@@heybudi Really? Could you paste here the provision of their constitution that avoids a government shutdown?

@EmbeddedWithin 2 жыл бұрын

My country was once a colony of Britain. We hated it

@yurielastillero506 2 жыл бұрын

@@EmbeddedWithin Ohhh, what is your country?

@mzaite 2 жыл бұрын

We can’t even pass a budget, no way an amendment is ever happening. We couldn’t even pass an equal rights amendment.

@brianmuli1833 2 жыл бұрын

I love how Kenya was casually put there with Japan and US 😂

@windsurfer8824 2 жыл бұрын

Love yourself

@the_sun6 2 жыл бұрын

Great and interesting video as always. What's interesting as well about "shutting down" is the load shedding process in CapeTown South Africa, take a look to it. They just shut down the electrics.

@alfredbessieres2188 Жыл бұрын

has a european, it will always make me laugh that every time something bad happened in the US the media speak always of the impact on the economy first and not the people impacted

@ondank 2 жыл бұрын

"Whats furlough" - Lady in 2019 Oh lady, trust me, your about to be well acquainted with furlough

@bradjeffrey835 2 жыл бұрын

The worst part of a government shutdown is when it also needs to install updates

@getrudecheptoo7997 2 жыл бұрын

I love that you mentioned Kenya 🇰🇪♥️ Informative also, thanks

@yashashsgowda6662 2 жыл бұрын

In India upper house doesn't have a say in financial bills, only lower house have a say which ruling party has a majority in... that can be a solution for USA🤷🏻‍♂️

@assasin19991999 2 жыл бұрын

The two party system wants no solution, I mean majority of them, not the few with souls and vision of a greater future for USAmericans.

@pixality7902 2 жыл бұрын

The upper house is the senate which is one of the least democratic places in our government. The senate is usually owned by the party that can't win the popular vote for president.

@jijumonm2345 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be majority mob rule on financial issues?

@IndianRepublic_1947 2 жыл бұрын

@@pixality7902 Upper is least democratic in most countries, in India upper house isn't elected (not directly) by the people but still gets to veto bill passed by elected government.

@jijumonm2345 2 жыл бұрын

@ThoughtCrime No. Democracy isn't the same as majority mob rule.

@sonampaldensherpa 2 жыл бұрын

British person here, do you guys want us to come back now ?

@matthewcrowther7877 2 жыл бұрын

Kind off

@spateri728 2 жыл бұрын

Haha 👍

@EvertBorghgraef 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly seems like Belgium should take a shot at it.

@firemedic1648 2 жыл бұрын

Just hold that thought a little longer

@zkfnd859 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Nepal, a budget gets passed in tight security, while those opposing literally throw chairs and punch each other out and try and stop the finance minister from declaring the budget. And yeah this happens while the parliament is in session.

@gabrielsoo2939 2 жыл бұрын

the essential workers should just not show up to work without pay. There's no way the govt can find replace air traffic controllers willing to work without pay.

@smallishfilms8362 2 жыл бұрын

The US might be one of the most tragic countries to ever exist. It could have been akin to Rome and yet we got this.

@pixality7902 2 жыл бұрын

I mean Rome came crashing down so it checks out.

@aidken5290 2 жыл бұрын

@@pixality7902 💀

@konstantincvetanovic5357 2 жыл бұрын

If you think rome was effective and stable, your dead wrong.

@FGH9G 2 жыл бұрын

@@pixality7902 The difference here is that it took Rome more than a thousand years to fall. The United States is practically determined to cause its own downfall in less than 50 years!

@Dima-px6pr 2 жыл бұрын

Yinkees he thinking himself Rome what jokes

@Bayofthe91st 2 жыл бұрын

They should've run with safe mode.

@frankgonzalezofficial3010 Жыл бұрын

TSA agents smiling and greeting everyone? Bullsheet! They are the most miserable people ever!

@alexkpai 2 жыл бұрын

omg that 2019 furlough feels like it happened like 6 years ago.

@taylorbug9 2 жыл бұрын

If you're a federal worker and there is a government shutdown, and you are unable to pay your rent due to not being paid, do you get to tell your landlord that you're a federal worker to get out of being evicted?

@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын

No. You can still get evicted.

@partlycurrent 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha as if renters had rights in the US :D :D :D

@taylorbug9 2 жыл бұрын

@@dave_riots I know it was rhetorical. To point out the dire situation of these poor federal workers.

@JJadx 2 жыл бұрын

we don't have a government in the Netherlands rn. it's very boring. nothing happens.

@izzatihassan1475 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that is sad. It should have been criminal to ask essential work to come to office, but not being paid until the funding is approved!

@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 2 жыл бұрын

Belgium: kijk wat ze nodig hebben om een fractie van mijn kracht na te doen

@adji4583 2 жыл бұрын

America isn't a country its a corporation.

@AJX-2 2 жыл бұрын

Corporations never shut down for weeks at a time because they can't decide on a budget.

@derekwall200 2 жыл бұрын

6:30 you see why can't this country's government be like the officials in South Korea, South Africa, and the Ukraine and settle disputes by throwing a few hay makers. it seems like diplomacy WITHOUT breaking a few noses and knocking a few teeth out is NOT getting us anywhere

@Nishant226 2 жыл бұрын

In India, budget bill or appropriation bill is passed around 1st of February. The fiscal year starts on 1st of April. That's two months in advance. I think the US government should learn something from this.

@NXT8SEA 2 жыл бұрын

Y’all make this sound soo juicy I love it

@fireaza 2 жыл бұрын

Tie the payment of the politician's salaries to whether or not the government is running or shutdown, and you'll quickly find the problem never happens again.

@legokingtm9462 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard when all the politician are millionaires

@saangtoaikaa9211 2 жыл бұрын

Ironically, the politicians must get paid regardless, as the U.S. Constitution prohibits both reducing or increasing the salaries of members of Congress until the next election to the House of Representatives. Thus, not getting paid in a shutdown technically means reducing their compensation gets to $0, which cannot happen ideally. Yet, the solution out of this mess is in the hands of the politicians themselves. 27th Amendment: No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

@Jrjg88 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine living in a country where as a government employee you don’t get paid and also medicine isn’t free? Literally a third world country. America is so barbaric

@arep5766 2 жыл бұрын

they always get paid back..everytime. so the shut downs dont effect anything, its all theater.

@cool_sword 2 жыл бұрын

@@arep5766 1) watch the video 2) Keep in mind how close many Americans are to financial disaster

@sarminder4357 2 жыл бұрын

Even some third world countries have universal healthcare to some extent. More like a fourth world country.

@arep5766 2 жыл бұрын

@@cool_sword lol...not governmnet workers...frankly most are not needed...just another wellfair program

@christopherwalker5017 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarminder4357 South Africa is even better than the US at this

@henrythairu8472 2 жыл бұрын

Kenya is mentioned here and THAT MAKES ME HAPPY. I WANNA CRY!!!

@tubertrio2565 2 жыл бұрын

In The Philippines I think sometimes Congress and Senate cannot pass The National Budget on time so the government do I think is redirect the extra fund or Budget from that agency to another by the Department of Budget or Finance Or That Department will Find ways to fund this agency until the budget pass

@luiscamacho1996 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if a private company did that to its employees; "alright executives, we didn't get to an agreement so our employees won't receive any money until we finally do it". The company would get fined and sanctioned the next day.

@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын

Not in the US it won't. If Amazon can get away with not paying income tax, I'm sure they can get away with not paying their employees.