It’s a shame really… I was very excited about this seeing as how vrs has always had reasonable prices and really needed a wheel to go with the base and pedals they offer. Saw the price and I’ve immediately written it off.

I always tell you this, but it’s yet another review that you’ve nailed.

Every review gets better, the quality of video and sound are absolutely incredible!

I think Dan does a good job explaining why the price of the wheel is what it is, but most people don't understand why the price of the wheel base is comparatively lower. The wheelbase uses an off the shelf MIGE 130 motor with an off the shelf encoder, so no design work or custom machining needed to go into those. They are made in Asia in huge quantities, so they are able to get a great price. The cables are custom, but again, does not require any custom machining as they use off the shelf terminations. The power supply is an off the shelf Meanwell unit which is also made in huge quantities and made in Asia. The controller requires a custom PCB, but the components on the board, including the microcontroller are all off the shelf parts and made in huge quantities. The enclosure is custom made, but it is a simple design in sheet metal and is able to made very affordably. The margins on the wheel base are likely greater than on the wheel, so this is not really a cash grab by VRS. Rather, it is clear that they made the business decision to move VRS upmarket, as seen by the part choices and manufacturing location. I was also hoping for a more affordable wheel, but in reality, that would require manufacturing in Asia and lower quality parts. Whether or not this was a wise decision remains to be seen, but at least they aren't gouging customers by selling a low quality product that was mass manufactured in Asia using sub-par parts.

I was waiting a lot to buy it with the VRS DD base, but the wheel is way too much expensive

Very good review - quality increase more and more on your videos. Also love your background ;)

Nice honest review, great to see before making a decision

Nice wall of wheels behind you! The price is surprising, for sure... but looks well built, and I like the minimalistic vibe it has

dan dan , thanks for this video brother !!

Whooa. Thats a high price for that.

As a virtual reality user that does not need a screen, these wheels are great. Supposedly Williams does not run a screen to reduce steering wheel weight for better driver response. It is the same reason why Thrustmaster went for lighter weight with their direct drive. Great review.

VRS nailed the pricing on their Wheel Base and on their Pedals but unfortunately they got carried away and wanted to make a huge profit on their Wheel Rim, this price is a joke.

I have to say the price of the wheel doesn't match the material used. The market for wheels, I feel the bar is set so high by so many companies that this is a disappointment.

I've waited 3 years for this wheel. Already own the dd wheelbase and pedals.About the price..that's kinda sad ..somehow. too expensive imo. In this case i go for Cube controls or ascher or gomez

Looking at the comments here, my guess is this thing is going to be DOA due to price.

Wow, very interesting

Hoped for something like 500-600ish... will stay with my Evil Racing then... Offers a lot more in my opinion with a better prize.

Nice wheel!

Thanks for the review! I was eager to upgrade to VRS base and this wheel because I love my pedals from them. Then the pricetag came and I decided against it. Am not even sure about the base anymore. This is how not do it VRS...

Good review, well done! After seeing the pictures and price, I was not impressed, but after this review I really like the wheel I must say. The way you can switch between USB and wireless makes it stand out. Only wondering if the wheel is detected as the same device if you switch between connection methods. If not, you have to reassign all controls after switching, which would be less than ideal. Anyway, thanks for reviewing it!

Great review - thanks for sharing! Do you prefer the VRS over the F core?

Looks good but definitely disappointed with the price point. Lots of competition in that range, so this doesn't stand out. Was hoping to see a decent offering in the mid range, 500 - 600. As a hobbyist sim racer, I just want a basic universal wheel with dual clutches at an affordable price.

Really want to try F-core, cube controls, as vrs is definetly not to my liking, waiting for fcore review Dan! I appreciate honest attitude! Tbh i would go GSI all they way instead of VRS!

What USB extension are you using from your PC to the front left of your rig?

Dan, is there a 300mm wheel that works with Fanatec that stands above the rest?

Random comment because I'm watching. I also like this video because it's informative on a subject that I am interested in.

1000 euros? fucking hell

i really want to go GSI but due to ergo wants, I can't go there. I sold my FPE to purchase another wheel. you have a review coming out for the Grid MPX in your honest subjective opinion which should I go for? GRID MPX or Cube Controls F-PRO?

Nice review Dan! Looking at the price of the wheel i'm getting more and more interested in the Evil Racing DGT wheel v2. Do you have plans to do a review of it by any chance?

nice, is it a right size for gt3/4 cars?

So you know when you get the f-core? I‘m very interested in that review :) hope the release is not far away

Looks like a solid wheel. The price is a bit high. $799 should be top end. Grips for me are a concern. At this price tho, I would rather order the GSI wheel. Kind of a disappointment to be honest. I wanted to get the entire bundle. Just wheelbase and pedals for me.

Dan, how many wheels can you have mate?

Do you know the shore value of the rubber grips?

In this price range I would expect it without plastic in the rear

Hi Dan, what are the wheels either side of your head when you are standing? The ones with the blue encoders on the front. They look like the style i'm after. Thanks

Very nice and super review like allways. ❤. Do you made a review of rexing formula wheel? Mayaris maybe was name of wheel😁 i see it in your wheel wall😍

Hey Dan, any chance you can run that force tester through your wall of wheels and put that in a Google Sheet or so for future reference? I reckon that would be very useful.

Bummer, I've been holding off buying my first wheel & wheelbase to buy the VRS together as a bundle, but this is way too expensive.

Looks like a good wheel but at that price it faces some tough competition. I hoped it would be more affordable because there arent that many formula style wheels with dual clutches below 800€. i can only think of the two polish folks at polsimer and simline who offer reasonable quality at more reasonable prices

Looks really nice, maybe not the bang for buck king but still nice

It should have a price @ 499€ to fit the great pricing of VRS wheelbase and VRS pedals. They better did. a wheel with 300mm and it should have a better look these days. I think this wheel will not find many fans @ this price and the look.

Nice review! Why everybody start with F1 wheels? Make them 2 to 3 cm bigger and they are excelent for GT3. I had the formula wheel and the McLaren GT3 wheel from Fanatec and from ergonimics I absolutely prefer the McLaren over the formula wheel. Buttons, LEDs, build quality etc. are better on the formula wheel but the ergonimics is much more important while driving...

The rotaries look way too easy to turn, you even turned one of them accidentally at 7:27 :D

Dan Suzuki asked me to comment. I really don't have anything to say, so have a wonderful day and Ramadan Kareem.

I really like the design of the wheel except for no thumb encoders. However, I truly think that VRS lost a big chance to become a big player. It should be similarly priced as Simagic FX or Moza GS if this wheel were proprietary. That could be understandable even with less gimmicks. That would make VRS-ecosystem fandom. Even though it is universal, the price should not be similar to some over-priced steering wheels. If I have to choose between this and Cube F-Pro or Grid MPX, I will easily choose the latter.

Pretty inflated price for what it is.

This looks like a budget version of the Ascher. A good wheel for VR. But no screen/LEDs/thumb encoders, not even stickers. A lot is lacking.

I was think that price gonna be 599-699 Euro max, on ebay have used Ascher F64 v1 for 500-600 euros. Two time better wheel, or new F64 v3 for 1000 euro. Price for VRS is abnormal

Throw in a built in display and that price would make sense...

Dan Suzuki likes to put three fingers in the bottom cutout. Tee hee I'm torn because I think the VRS wheel is probably everything I *need* and I trust VRS, but there are so many options in a similar price point that have more features. I tend to think that rev lights and thumb encoders should be standard on a formula style wheel at this price.

Mr. Dan Suzuki Is this more suited for f1 only?

To mutch money

Expected around 500-550 euroes...this price is very high. Great encoders indeed but the buttons are loose on it even... Asetek comes with lighting as well and very similar layout, much cheaper and upgradable, more inputs as well. Sorry VRS, but not for me this one...

The fact that this wheel isn't back-lit is a huge fail also in my opinion. Especially for the price. Also, is Acsher the OEM for this wheel rim? Would make sense why the price is why it is if so.

The average simracer won’t really care about this type of review. Taking it apart and going into This level of detail. Having said that it’s a very and good review. Thanks!

They probably had to match it with the ascher and future ascher mclaren wheel which all look similar in parts and equipment and since its made in EU, they dont want to drop the price for everybodies sake and profit, most likely same manufacture plus EU tax. I mean atleast its reliable, $500.00 if made in china with plastic button and thinner aluminum plate and no bluetooth.

I love my VRS DFP pedals - this wheel is nice but way overpriced for its quality. I’ll stick with my GSI

The price 😂. This is overpriced by $500.

looks nice, but its to overpriced like the rest of the sim market

Massive disappointment and im guessing it will show in the sales

At least it’s not orange…

They are trying to compare it to the Ascher F64 and claim „100€ cheaper than the competition“. But looking at the V3 of the Ascher - sorry, the competition is more the F28 V2. Yeah, a few more inputs and the clutch. But it’s not up there with the V3. In the middle, maybe. And a plastic back? So 749€ or 799€ I think is a fair price point.

I'm not sure I can ever understand how a wheel can cost 1000 Euro. A powerful GPU that uses the pinacle of modern day tech costs about the same as a piece of aluminium with two pieces of rubber and basic electronic components.

Sad, looks like someone over at VRS is getting money hungry at the company's expense (reputation). I suppose steering wheel prices in general are wild and I shouldn't be mad at VRS specifically though. But again, I always thought of VRS as one of the few companies that provide somewhat reasonable pricing to performance so I did have some higher expectations. I still like VRS and respect their wheelbase and pedals. Cheers

too expensive

Not worth the price but the vrs base is better then some may think.

Nice wheel but not for that price. Theres far better options for that price. That's a 550$ 600$ dollar max wheel.

More expensive then the FX PRO lmao

such a great wheel, but unfortunately, so expensive...

Definitely not on the quality/price line from VRS. No LEDS, Plastic back, small room for your hands... there are better optiones in that price range, that's for sure!!

I dont understand how you can say it's worth the price when GSI gives you the Formula Pro Elite for €250 more... (same criticism for the Ascher and GRID for me though...) Also, Polsimer F74N has LED's for the RPM counting and is also flexless for way less. Only problem I sometimes have with the Polsimer is that the plastic at the back clicks a bit sometimes. The version with clutches costs €590, but it has no BT and less/no software options. Then again, Polsimer raised it's prices and you don't get almost 2x the functionality. To me it feels like if they would make a GSI Formula Pro Elite clone they would ask €1750 for it. I would rather buy a GSI GXL and have some money left for other accessories or spend a little more and buy a GSI FPE. I applaud you for trying to stay away from that conclusion though :).

shape is a no for me... no lit buttons... its too bad looks fine but not for me.

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too expensive in China such a steering wheel can be made for 500 euros

300mm would have been better. And 6-700$.

You promised pedals first 😡

1000 euros for a wheel that doesn't have good space for gripping with your hands and doesn't have a display or lights.

throw

It could be Travel, or Throw. English is dumb like that.

dude that wheel is pure scam for that price 🤣

totally overpriced

Sadly overpriced and that software wow so 2005

For that price MOZA FSR and V2 are WAY better wheels than this at half the price, aint no way this is gonna sell!

Sim Racing has become an elitist thing. Between the cheating and the dive-bombing, call it sending it if you want, it's disrespectful, and new hardware is way out of the price range for most gamers, I mostly just race offline. ZNice wheel, but for 99% of people, who cares.

It amazes me with the sim racing industry. . . Always way overpriced... And unjustifiable...