You are showing the price for the ID.3 in$ including VAT and without subsidies and for the Model 3 without VAT but including subsidies. Nice job, you really took your time.
@hrh20924 жыл бұрын
Wrong, Model 3 long range was mentioned at 52,000 Euros. It is correct EXCLUDING the subsidies.
@abadplanner14 жыл бұрын
Schmuck
@hrh20924 жыл бұрын
@@abadplanner1 Yes, you are!
@hrh20924 жыл бұрын
@@abadplanner1 VW is both schmuck and cheating!
@michaelblue78524 жыл бұрын
You can't put a sofa or fridge in a Model 3. There is a reason hatchbacks are so popular in europe.
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Very true - hatchbacks are amazingly useful!
@mcbonnes4 жыл бұрын
For the maybe 2-3 times in 10 years, you can find an alternative transport solution :D In 18 years, I never had to carry a fridge or sofa in my cars.
@michaelblue78524 жыл бұрын
@@mcbonnes Haha that's true. I would probably buy the Model 3, but i think a lot of people want a hatchback.
@wermagst4 жыл бұрын
It's also much more practical for Europe's narrow spaces, as it is 40 cm shorter and has a 2m smaller turning circle.
@bluejackscanada3 жыл бұрын
@@mcbonnes I don't move many fridges, but I use my hatch back all the time. Not just a few times a year. My whole deck got to my house in my vw gti.
@MDP17024 жыл бұрын
Something I'd like to add is that here in Belgium the id.3 would cost around 38k, while the model 3 SR+ costs around 49k, this is a large difference, especially since the range (which is one of the most important features people look at) is the same or even better with the id.3. Essentially the id.3 would not be as great and good as the model 3 overall, but would be good (enough) on the things that matter, especially in Europe. So I do think the id.3 is a real competitor for Tesla in Europe and I wouldn't be surprised to see it beat Tesla as long as Tesla doesn't bring out its own cheaper hatchback car where the focus is on price and practicality and less on performance and "luxury". Something else is that in terms of cargo space, it seems that VW chose to have a smaller front, where as Tesla has a larger one. This is essentially a design choice. VW could easily have put and extra forward trunk if it enlarged the front. However many people (again in Europe) will like the smaller profile of the ID.3 and will not really care about the front space. Honestly this might have also been a category, the ID.3 is almost half a meter shorter, this might come in handy when looking for parkingspots, turning, ... etc. though it might be limited in comparison to other features. So to conclude: The model 3 has a real competitor here due to the difference in price mostly this while the range is still better with the ID.3. The performance (topspeed and acceleration) is in fact a non issue, you almost never go faster than 130 km/h on the roads and super acceleration is not really necessary either. Software wise, the autodrive is ofcourse unfortunate, then again you don't really need this either (yet). So all in all ID.3 might beat out Tesla in Europe untill either Tesla comes with a new cheaper EV or if they can get their prices down (maybe the Berlin factory will be able to change things drastically?).
@alexfiftyfour4 жыл бұрын
I think the same. As of today the ID 3 is almost sold out for the rest of 2020. Big demand. People realy like it.
@larryspiller154 жыл бұрын
Well Belgium is less than 500km away from Germany vs 9000km from California so yeah that might add a bit to the price haha.
@skjold734 жыл бұрын
About performance, it’s not only about top speed, it’s 0-100 s, track mode and better breaks too
@MDP17024 жыл бұрын
@@larryspiller15 Eve better, Belgium is less than 0 km away from Germany :p. Yeah with Giga Berlin things might change in terms of price. I do hope Tesla soon comes with a cheaper (and smaller) hatchback version, that would change a lot.
@MDP17024 жыл бұрын
@@skjold73 In daily life performance like that doesn't really matter. You don't need that acceleration, nor the better breaks or track modes. Essentially these are more gimmicks for car fans than anything else.
@MaxMustermann-zk7vp4 жыл бұрын
I like the way you presented this comparison, but PLEASE see other comments and fix your video/conclusion. You just missed a lot of points: - VW ID.3 will be CO2 neutral - thats unique! - VW ID.3 is much quieter when being driven (especially on higher speeds) - VW ID.3 has better technology when it comes to Head--Up-Display, IQ Matrix LED lights, CO2 heatpump availability, panorama roof with electric sun protection, ID Light... - VW ID.3 might have less assistent systems but the ones that are there will work much better (it has a very well working speed sign detection with prediction, a very good lane assistent and a very good ACC) - Safety will be very good in ID.3 as well, e.g. it has central (far side) airbags which Tesla doesn't even offer - Tesla Model 3 will have full trailer hitch and roof load - so thats a plus for Cargo for Tesla - VW ID.3 offers DCC in Max trim and will be much more comfortable to ride If you want performance, go for Tesla, no way. If you travel long ranges and across borders (e.g. through europe) very often, go for Tesla (LR model + superchargers). If you need full trailer hitch, ID.3 won't fit. Otherwise, you really should think about the ID.3.
@Dave-in-France4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, what is your definition of 'carbon neutral'.
@MaxMustermann-zk7vp4 жыл бұрын
@@Dave-in-France I am referring to www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/stories/2019/11/how-volkswagen-makes-the-id-3-carbon-neutral.html
@Wolfsblvt4 жыл бұрын
There is no "your definition". This is what VW promises, and says in every marketing medium you can find. This car is CO2-neutral, based on how the CO2 emissions are counted for other products in the industry.
@megatechbody32074 жыл бұрын
ID 3 is too ugly.
@mho04 жыл бұрын
@@megatechbody3207 I think ID.3 is better looking :)
@aliancemd4 жыл бұрын
Before I start watching, the guy is from US with a Tesla T-shirt, I kind of know already where this is going...
@enoughofthis3 жыл бұрын
And you are from?, and we already know where you are going. After so many years of "clean diesel" brainwashing and inhaling toxic diesel , i can understand where you are going.
@Flex22123 жыл бұрын
@@enoughofthis Thank you for being the perfect example.
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
Listen. There's clearly no bias.
@Gugiwerad4 жыл бұрын
Model 3 and ID.3 are so different that comparing them is like comparing Ford Transit and Renault Clio. Better comparison would be VW ID.3 vs Tesla Model Y.
@christiaanhetzner11934 жыл бұрын
Just gonna say it: if you knew anything about L4/L5 driving you wouldn’t repeat the baseless claim from Musk that FSD just needs an OTA software update. Complete rubbish.
@pioneer77777773 жыл бұрын
Typical Tesla fanboy bias at work
@Tresla3 жыл бұрын
The latest model 3s are equipped with the hardware required for full L4/L5 driving though. So it _is_ just an OTA software update
@MrZrryan23 жыл бұрын
LOL. This comment did not age well. L5 FSD is here now and works awesome.
@christiaanhetzner11933 жыл бұрын
zrRyan2 you should know the difference before commenting. This is Level 2. Not even L3. L5 is sending the car off on its own to taxi strangers around.
@jamesellis48994 жыл бұрын
The ID3 will sell well, I am happy VW is finally entering the market.
@Tom55data4 жыл бұрын
Shame it is a little over priced - it is a good car, just not worth that amount
@carholic-sz3qv4 жыл бұрын
@@Tom55data stop talking nonsense, teslas are still expensive for most people too
@Tom55data4 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv ????? This car is 12-15 K more than the ICE equivalent. Tesla is an expensive car equivalent to BMW 3 etc, it is a different level of car, it is still very expensive, but you get much more.
@wermagst4 жыл бұрын
@@Tom55data You mean more like traffic sign recognition, matrix LED headlights, augmented reality head-up display or a heat-pump? Or a service network available in practically every city? There's a lot that Tesla does not offer.
@Tom55data4 жыл бұрын
@@wermagst I agree those things are not on a Tesla, but I can tell you have not driven one. My wife has an Audi A3-etron - so the posh VW, and the Tesla is the better car, and my wife prefers the Tesla; it is just a nice car to be in. The Audi is a very good car, but the Tesla 3 is a better car. I recommend you test drive a few Electric cars, certainly the Polstar 2 - now that is a good car and probably better (but less efficient) then the model 3. The ID3 has cheap plastics on the inside, the touch controls are a bugger to use, they missed the mark, it is so sad.
@paulcox43694 жыл бұрын
Probably a lone voice here, the two are different cars & l haven't seen the ID3 yet but owning a vehicle isn't all about performance numbers. I suspect us Europeans will be buying the ID3 in larger numbers as like it or not Tesla are getting a reputation for poor build quality here, and we do like a weĺl built practical hatchback here. Time will tell, but the feeling here is Tesla's technology is best but not the best cars.
@rtfazeberdee35194 жыл бұрын
0-60 is not important either as i doubt there are any stopping junctions in Europe where you can go from 0 to 60mph without losing your licence. Autonomy is not on my radar either, thats an expensive add-on, adaptive cruise control is enough for me. Tesla has too many software gimmicks like fart sounds and they used once or twice.
@jmckey4 жыл бұрын
@@rtfazeberdee3519 Don't you think that parents with kids will be swayed by the default included autonomy features of the Tesla for safety? I know that is the main reason I want one to keep my family safer than the avg car. And the independent data shows Teslas are safer due to that tech (automatic crash avoidance).
@rtfazeberdee35194 жыл бұрын
@@jmckey sure but crash avoidance is offered on other EVs too. VW has been offering on their ICE cars since 2016. its not unique to tesla
@theuncalledfor4 жыл бұрын
@@rtfazeberdee3519 Who said it was exclusive to Tesla? Tesla's crash avoidance system is just _better,_ and therefore, safer.
@rtfazeberdee35194 жыл бұрын
@@theuncalledfor i very much doubt there is any significant difference between any of them
@casperhansen8264 жыл бұрын
Finally a little competition, I think a lot of European car buyers would prefer the VW, mostly because they know the brand and they still believe it is a quality brand and they know that American cars have quality issues no matter brand. However, I have high expectations for the Tesla vehicles from Giga Berlin, I really hope they get the fit and finish and paint right. Thank you for a fair comparison.
@bmw8034 жыл бұрын
VW has their problems just like any other brand. I have a 2013 Ford escape, which is really the European KUGA. No problems whatsoever and well built. American VW are made in Mexico, so they're not German made and same with European Fords. Designed and built in EU
@Coecoo2 жыл бұрын
You serious? VW is on the bottom spectrum when it comes to reliability.
@SeriouslyJaded4 жыл бұрын
VW software problems are overrated. The only features missing on delivery will be the augmented reality function of the HUD (the normal HUD features work fine), apple car play, android auto (none of which Tesla's have even as options) and automatic routing to chargers but all will come as an update in Q1 2021. I think your assertion that Tesla software is better and always will be is a stretch too - take a look at the VW driver assist systems - the latest are now the equal or better than Tesla's autopilot (take a look at TeslaBjørn's auto park of a Model 3 video - lol - and the numerous Tesla summon videos - the phantom breaking - the list is endless). So no, although the VW infotainment gui needs some work, the rest is better than fine and has features you can't get for a Tesla. And let's not mention build quality, fit and finish. lol Also the price is very difficult to compare to what you think a US price will be. Prices for the Model 3 and ID.3 can vary across Europe quite substantially, and also, if the ID.3 ever came to the US, it would be built in the Chattanooga plant where they will build the ID.4 - that will reduce import tariffs by quite some margin I imagine. Trunk space - check out the TeslaBjørn banana box test for both - of course the ID.3 wipes the floor with the model 3, it's a hatchback. With seats up, they are the same (even with the Frunk) with seats down, the ID.3 has space for 2 full banana boxes more. Why do you miss out the other ID.3 features that Tesla doesn't have, like IQ Matrix LED headlights, and electrically closing panoramic roof curtain? No current Tesla has the hardware for FSD. It's an Elon scam, it will never be good enough with the sensors it has, it is just not possible. Any industry insider that knows anything will tell you the same. You cannot base an industry safety rating of one car which is based on dedicated EV platform, on another that is based on an old ICE platform even if they are from the same manufacturer. They do not even have the same number of airbags - for instance, the ID.3 has a center airbag between driver and passenger - something an e-golf (or a model 3) doesn't have. Your comparison is so flawed, it's worthless but hey, stroke the Tesla fanboy egos why don't you. lol
@strykerace4 жыл бұрын
Never trust what VW tells you. VW is a bunch of crooks and liars. Don't be surprised if the battery of VW starts to degrade rapidly after the first year.
@abraxastulammo99404 жыл бұрын
The ID.3 drives at top speed with travel assist (lane center following) while Tesla limits it to 150 km/h and it has predictive regenerative brakeing and traffic sign recognition, so it might come out on top. Augmented reality will be very cool, only Mercedes S class will have similar tech.
@abraxastulammo99404 жыл бұрын
@@strykeraceDon't fret, battery has 8 years of warranty. Replacement module (58 kW version has 9) is said to be 1400 EUR.
@jmckey4 жыл бұрын
@Comeonuseyourbrain well, the statement is not baseless. They got in so much trouble in the US with their false air sensor readings and EPA checks that they had to build a whole network of EV charging stations in the US on their dime. Whether that translates to them makes good or bad batteries I have no idea, but I do agree I am less likely to trust their self reported data for a while.
@strykerace4 жыл бұрын
@Comeonuseyourbrain you know nothing about me. But we all know VW leadership authorized the software to trick emissions testing across all their business lines. Its one of the most evil companies out there.
@Dave-in-France4 жыл бұрын
I liked the video but imo there were a couple of basic faults. 1. When looking at how a Tesla will perform, these cars are in full production with validated performance characteristics, with the VW, as always, the performance details are from brochures with no means of validation - and VW are not known for their honesty. 2. One major major advantage Tesla has over everyone else is their package of passive and active safety features - the features that will keep you and your family ALIVE. 3. Why didn't you do Model Y v ID 3; ie hatchback to hatchback.
@HenriZwols4 жыл бұрын
I can answer 3 for you: ID.3 isn't available in the US and model Y isn't available in Europe. So such a comparison wouldn't be useful for either market.
@swunt104 жыл бұрын
tesla doesn't even have proper airbagsystems.
4 жыл бұрын
What about very important category for us in EU - Service center(s)? Number of official VW dealers and service centers is HUGE comparing to Tesla.
@fireboltaz4 жыл бұрын
How do they compare? They don’t. You might as well compare apples to oranges
@giovannifoulmouth72053 жыл бұрын
People compare fruits, yes. Oranges are better, Tesla is better.
@99424084 жыл бұрын
The cheapest model 3 here is a SR+ but it costs € 48.980,- so it doesnt compare (Netherlands)
@gyozototh15484 жыл бұрын
You have not mentioned the absence of heat pump, which reduce the real range of Tesla im Winter. I do not think, that the real consumption of the ID3 so much is in comparison to Tesla. The comparison has been made through o glass of a Tesla fan.
@msl52534 жыл бұрын
Bingo! Presenter had myopic vision!
@johnmoore9314 жыл бұрын
Many inaccuracies in this video. Anyone who thinks that the comparable ID.3 will have a longer "actual" range than the Tesla SR+ is a fool. The Tesla does not have an actual range of 190 miles. This is preposterous. The EPA range on the car is 250. Worst case scenario is 225-230. The presenter is surely aware of this. No one has ever claimed that the EPA was this far off on range. Cleanerwatt credibility is dropping fast.
@jen86394 жыл бұрын
Well said. I can't believe people are comparing this car to a model 3 and trying to find some bizarre ways to justify how the id3 is better. As someone who has owned 3 golds before my model 3. Its literally years ahead.
@erik59893 жыл бұрын
I like the car comparisons that is done in media, it is good info before a purchase. I dont like them selecting a winner. Because everyone has different needs. I have tried both of these. And my needs fitted the id.3 more than the M3. And lease price here in Sweden for M3 starts at the equivalent of about 650 USD and the id.3 at 350 USD a month. Tech version of id.3 is 460 USD a month. So basically an easy choice for me.
@knowntobehonest4 жыл бұрын
What a nonsense. Comparing two cars without driving them.
@svengrundmann75154 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing.
@hackerman78354 жыл бұрын
You can compare two computers by looking at their specs without turning them on..
@kiloy10064 жыл бұрын
@@hackerman7835 Nope. Wrong. you gotta run bench marks.
@hrh20924 жыл бұрын
With driving, ID.3 will be flushed down the toilet.
@Tresla3 жыл бұрын
@@hrh2092 Have you driven the ID.3? Check which comment thread you're replying to before spouting complete crap...
@JulesThomall4 жыл бұрын
As I live in Germany I am definetly looking forward to the Gigafactory in Grünheide near Berlin. If they can bring the price of the model 3 down and maybe even launch a compact vehicle that would be an even bigger gamechanger for the whole EV segment in europe 👌
@kokomo53944 жыл бұрын
@Stefan D. Well of course they grow faster than Tesla when starting from almost zero EVs 😂
@jameshoffman5524 жыл бұрын
Some analysts ’dive into’ details. Cleanerwatt is so thorough, it dives into the conclusion.
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Haha. thanks!
@HenriZwols4 жыл бұрын
12:57 You don't have Ncap score for the ID.3 yet so you just use numbers for a different car?!? That's just grasping!
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned, this is the most recent similar vehicle that they have tested from VW. Why would the ID.3 be much better? Especially with all of their software issues.
@EinkOLED3 жыл бұрын
The golf got 95% in the impact tests, I think the id3 will be similar.
@komentierer3 жыл бұрын
@@Cleanerwatt "Why would the ID3 be much better?" Are you kidding?? It's a completely different car. And, OF COURSE, it received a much higher rating than the Golf. Any real journalist would now issue a correction.
@marcelbeaucamp93303 жыл бұрын
VW really did a great job! It is hard to build up a company lile Tesla, but it is harder to transform a big manufacturing company like VW into a software company... It is the first EV from Volkswagen based on an EV plattform - so Volkswagen just started that transformation process. Their cars will only get better!
@PwnTheGod4 жыл бұрын
volkswagen: "we dont compare to tesla" fair, but atleast VW is not on its way to bankruptcy by not trying to adapt to the coming change
@alexfiftyfour4 жыл бұрын
I expect very good earnings from the VW EVs in 2021. This year is rampup
@suigeneris63114 жыл бұрын
Volkswagen will be comfortable with Volkswagons failure.
@PwnTheGod4 жыл бұрын
@@suigeneris6311 "volkswagon" shoot got me there
@cbromley5624 жыл бұрын
Fit and finish on the Tesla will surely be excellent when produced in Berlin...new state-of-the-art paint shop, and German assemblers/stampers etc. We have the 2019 SR+, and we don’t see any problems however. Nor do we on Teslas we see at superchargers. It’s become a bit of a lazy internet myth to say it’s across the board...all manufacturers have problems with some cars that roll off the line, and always have. Anyway, looking forward to seeing iD3s on the roads. I’m going to get the callipers out, and measure those panel gaps...woe betide any that are off. ;)
@olaflanfermann73434 жыл бұрын
So what helps German quality, if your sitting in USA? Issues with Model Y are coming up, too.
@OnlyPenguian4 жыл бұрын
Also the video doesn't mention the build quality of the Shanghai Model 3, which is said to be better than Fremont. www.teslarati.com/tesla-china-model-3-build-quality-shanghai-manufacturing/
@OnlyPenguian4 жыл бұрын
My point is that the quality is improving with each new plant.
@olaflanfermann73434 жыл бұрын
@@OnlyPenguian Ok, if the quality is improving, what does this mean for the cars, that exists? Can I buy a 3 year old car? What can I expect. But to be honest... The whole comparison discussion is crap. To me, this are different cars for different customers. This emotional discussion is crap, too. The European market is big enough and thank god the interests of the people are different.
@aliancemd4 жыл бұрын
Model 3 deal braker for me: that noise that starts from 50-60 km/h. I couldn't care less that it does 0-100km/h a few seconds faster...
@jeremymansfield38934 жыл бұрын
My 2019 SR+ real range is 380km at 100% charge. Yes you only do this if going on a long trip...Even at 90% its 340km. 310km is way off the mark...
@MyUniversalUniversity4 жыл бұрын
You not suppose to charge is past 90%, most people go 80%. All good!!
@Sabeximus4 жыл бұрын
The real range is different than what the screen says. I believe the real range is measured by real world driving and range tests. The km number next to the battery icon in your screen is just calculated from SOC, not by consumption.
@cyclopsvision63704 жыл бұрын
@@Sabeximus don't forget temperature, outdoor and inside the car. Also, if you use A/C or heat, that will use up battery power too
@Sabeximus4 жыл бұрын
Cyclops Vision Yes, those all affect the consumption. And the real world range is calculated from real word range tests with real world consumptions (unlike EPA and WLTP which are measured in laboratory environment).
@scotty19284 жыл бұрын
Samu Karesma according to my consumption, my real range is 570km in my LR AWD, which is even more than WLTP.
@surfnetdz4 жыл бұрын
I think the comparison misses one important aspect which is the driving dynamics (handling, ride, noise)!
@christiaanhetzner11934 жыл бұрын
Pretty clear from the video he hasn’t driven the ID.3, not surprising as they only recently started with motoring press. I drove it, but not the M3. So i cannot compare either. One thing i would point out is the turning circle of the VW, which is very small at 10 meters. Teslas are rather poor here and that is inconvenient in Europe with its narrow roads and parking garages.
@svengrundmann75154 жыл бұрын
@@christiaanhetzner1193 I also saw from review videos that ID.3 is superior in noise and also the self driving feature is better according to the reviewer. It also works up to max speed of 166 kph
@Aiphares4 жыл бұрын
@@christiaanhetzner1193 turning circle, noise inside is a lot better with the ID.3 and as a Model 3 owner i'm SO jealous of the HUD. definitely gonna try one once they add those features. The lightbar in the front is already a cool touch :D
@danielgoncalves63864 жыл бұрын
He even doesn't hide is partiality ....wearing a Tesla t-shirt 😁
@7spower9983 жыл бұрын
He likes to MEGA
@enoughofthis3 жыл бұрын
Your criticism shows your partiality!
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
The video is objective
@guillemodred39384 жыл бұрын
How many times will you accelerate from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds, how much enjoyment or utility will you gain from the acceleration? Is it really worth the extra cost and loss in overall efficiency of an electric vehicle? if it does not provide any actual value and is in fact a net negative why do reviewers keep touting it as a positive feature. I will take extra range over acceleration any day.
@MrMinimatze4 жыл бұрын
The Drivers Assist in the ID3, called Travel Assist, works great in Europe, he is smoothly slow down the Speed before the limits coming, in Europe the Tesla autopilot haven't all features you can use in the USA. The European Laws are difficult.
@timj.3164 жыл бұрын
Add the number of available Service Centers (Germany VW: ~900, Tesla: 10) and you gerät a final score of 5:5. I work for VW and I prefer the Tesla.
@zorgonfire4 жыл бұрын
Missing one major point: how expensive is it to fix something out of warranty where do you have to go to fix it and how much time it will take.
@svengrundmann75154 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, as i heard horror stories from used Teslas which are out of warranty.
@johanwittens77123 жыл бұрын
One of the bigger things reviewers, especially american ones, forget, is that the iD3 is almost half a meter shorter than a model 3. This might not matter in the US, but in Europe, with narrow streets, small parking spaces, winding roads and city streets and alleys, a small car almost always sells way better. To us europeans the tesla model 3 is an average sized family sedan and not compact at all. A more compact family car like the iD3 historically always sold better here. I think this is a very important point on which the iD3 has the tesla beat in the EU market. Basically a very similar car but in a more compact city car package, and a bit cheaper han the model 3, which is excactly what quite a large portion of europeans want. There's a reason VW sees this as the spiritual succesor to the VW golf, one of the most popular cars ever in europe...
@meinekleineweltreise4 жыл бұрын
Tesla wins tech and driver assist? Are you kidding me? Tesla’s headlight is from 19th century and acc cant‘t read any speedlimits. I don‘t need a big screen for watching youtube videos in my car! These two cars are completely different and Europeans will love the id3.
@kokomo53944 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are very misinformed. Model 3 has full LED headlights, and they are amazing.
@meinekleineweltreise4 жыл бұрын
Ok, 19th century is exaggerated! But the M3 is just 3 years old and even my 7 years old BMW i3 had LED headlights. What about „adaptive“, „vision“, „matrix“ LED, like other companies provide it. Even an small Opel Corsa is equipped with matrix LED. That‘s what I‘m talking about!
@meinekleineweltreise3 жыл бұрын
@@dreadpirategibi2038 : Why not!?! And the Japanese are building the most reliable motorcycles on earth! That‘s life!
@uBenji12344 жыл бұрын
Number of charging stations is at least a top-three consideration/factor for a buyer I would think?
@dibeerwolf16454 жыл бұрын
hi you forgeot the models : PRO 35.700 € 58kwh accu and the Pro S 40.900€ with 77kwh accu
@hansh24634 жыл бұрын
VW ID3 is a nice car, better price, nice look, if it works. software updates yes, but what does it contains, maybe nothing or maybe you have to pay for it. VW is always been very pricy for options, and you see that also in the models they have. Tesla model 3 has proven for some years that software updates work, gets new features, it has proven to be a good car. Service is completely different arrange than VW dealers... But great competition... time will show how it will go..
@justus65644 жыл бұрын
1. Did you ever compare a VW Golf with a BMW 3er. 2. Performance: How often do you use 0 to 100? How often do you use maximum speed, especially outside of Ggermany. 3. Tech Features and Driver Assist: What features should be better in the tesla? Tesla hat no HUD Tesla has no heat pump Tesla can not read speed limits and cannot adjust the ACC to the speed limits Tesla should have full self driving possibility, but only when you pay another 7000 Euros and nobody knows when this will come. Tesla has no sound reducing windshield Tesla has no sun protection at the panorama roof. Tesla has no matrix light. 4. Cargo space: The cargo space of the ID.3 ist much better usable then the two of the Tesla. You con increase the cargo space in the ID.3 not only by folding the back seats, but also by using the space up to the roof. So according to my calculation the result is 6:2 for the VW. Beside this: The VW ist smaller, so more easy for parking an manovering (turning circle 10,2 meters)
@sat77554 жыл бұрын
... and Tesla does not supply a jar of Vaseline like VW do to each customer to give them some relief when they will start driving that contraption, with insulated windshield and heat pump (the greatest technological contribution Of VW to mankind since the wonderful polluting diesel that has poisoned million people and half the planet) what a bunch of selling bullshit again.
@tobias72524 жыл бұрын
Amen. Plus: The ID3 will also have a number of safety features expected to be introduced on future vehicles, including: emergency assist braking, pedestrian monitoring, lane keeping assist.
@justus65644 жыл бұрын
@@sat7755 The only bullshit is your answer. No facts only sh.. .
@CallumGolds4 жыл бұрын
Germany doesn't make the best cars anymore, get over it
@justus65644 жыл бұрын
@@CallumGolds I When did I say, that Germany makes the best cars? The subject here is, the comparison between VW ID.3 and Tesla M3.
@Micador794 жыл бұрын
I think you missed a very important one... what about practicality?
@weetikissa3 жыл бұрын
This. Americans severely underestimate how much Europeans need, want, and love hatchbacks. It's the most important segment here and Tesla really dropped the ball by not making a slightly cheaper hatch version of the Model 3.
@shaneenticott64903 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. If the model 3 was a hatchback, I'd buy it. As it is, it will be either id.3 or e-niro
@2nd3rd1st4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Make a note to compare them again once the M3 is also in German production.
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Good point. That could change things drastically for sure.
@cemalsonatalicik23364 жыл бұрын
Id3 should’ve been more affordable. You’re getting lots of tech if you buy the model 3.
@DooMMasteR3 жыл бұрын
The ID.3 has a heated steering wheel, LED matrix lights... Android Auto, a nice HUD, massage seat.. and other commodities people have come used to.
@jameshoffman5524 жыл бұрын
Model Y build quality / finish problems are overrated. - June 2020 Y recipient.
@yourcrazybear4 жыл бұрын
Are they? You know that you can't base that on your delivery?
@dmitrii3364 жыл бұрын
@@yourcrazybear why not?
@SeriouslyJaded4 жыл бұрын
Dmitrii because anecdotal. Also JD Power survey puts Tesla at the bottom of the pack. Also, a metric tonne worth of social media showing leaks, paint and fit/finish issues.
@yourcrazybear4 жыл бұрын
@@SeriouslyJaded Because as Adrian wrote, its anecdotal.
@dmitrii3364 жыл бұрын
@@SeriouslyJaded yes, anecdotal as any other anecdotal report. When you see complaints in social media you have to remember that there are way more people who do NOT complain as they don't have problems. "Also JD Power survey puts Tesla at the bottom of the pack" Yes, Tesla, Audi, Porsche at the bottom, VW at the top www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2020-initial-quality-study-iqs
@fabriziom4 жыл бұрын
Hi - great video! Where did you get the rated efficiency numbers for the SR+?
@MaxMustermann-vu8ir4 жыл бұрын
The guy is wearing a Tesla T Shirt in the video so the outcome of the comparison shouldn't come as a big surprise ;-) Let the customers decide. In several european countries the VW e Golf is outselling Tesla M3. How is this possible as the e Golf has very poor range? There is no doubt that the ID3 will be a much better car than the e Golf so my guess is that the ID3 will outsell Tesla M3 in Europe. And with Audi e tron (which is a mediocre car imo) already outselling Tesla Model X, Porsche Taycan outselling Model S in Germany despite being twice as expensive and upcoming VW ID4 and Audi Q4 e tron as tough Model Y competitors I don't see much room for Tesla.
@kuldeuec4 жыл бұрын
These are like the samsungs, Motorola, Nokia's when iphone was in the market...10 years later few surviving ..thesame arguement were thrown at Apple 9 years ago, I remember that era.
@basemgerges19793 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you should short TSLA. 😎
@kuldeuec3 жыл бұрын
@@basemgerges1979 you kidding, the biggest asset i own is TSLA..then house, then SQ....I only do covered calls against my TSLA shares.
@charliep62884 жыл бұрын
i think when the tesla compact car comes out that is more similar to the id 3 and the price should drop in Europe when giga Berlin making it cheeper than the id 3 making it more compelling to buy over the id 3
@davemyers774 жыл бұрын
Based on speculation about a car that hasn't been announced yet, in your opinion it will be cheaper and therefore a better car? I can't believe I've justified your comment with a reply.
@simoc244 жыл бұрын
How does the ID3 margin works? If they have a bigger battery and cheaper price? Is it because it is locally made? Or they just have low margin?
@kokomo53944 жыл бұрын
To have comparable range to a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus, you need the ID.3 58 kWh. Then you need the "Tech" trim level to get the same equipment level, plus tick off a couple more options. The result is you end up with the same price as a Model 3.
@basemgerges19793 жыл бұрын
They’re losing money to market it. Meanwhile Tesla, with all the manufacturing innovation are cutting costs. So they’ll be either in a position to lower margins and sell cheaper, or keep the prices and have high profits. VW just starting. Tesla a decade ahead. In 10 years time Tesla will still be a decade ahead.
@davorperat10694 жыл бұрын
You missed some VW advantages, like true global presence, and was bigger service network.
@eb1888.4 жыл бұрын
Bit of an obvious failure on usable cargo space. Because there's no listed volume measurement doesn't means buyers don't see the massive difference in the space with the seats folded down. Cmon. Please. The Model Y is similar in space convenience compared to the 3. VW wins on cargo.
@demultiplexdfunc1774 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend doing a comparison between Subaru Outback and Model Y. I know quite a few people who owns the Outback, but now have the means to buy Model Y. In a couple of years, I too will be in the market for the Model Y. I hope by then, Tesla will have a Trailhead package. Having a competent vehicle that can traverse Forest Service roads like the Outback could be ideal for me.
@officialyasir4 жыл бұрын
Demultiplex Dfunc good point! I have a Model 3 at the moment and I want a more capable off-road vehicle but Model Y just doesn’t have the ground clearance or skid plates to protect the under body. Subaru Outback probably has more room, and 8.7 inch ground clearance is fantastic plus plenty of aftermarket support.
@demultiplexdfunc1774 жыл бұрын
Yas, I’ve also consider Cybertruck of course, but it is just too big. Here’s to hoping Tesla will come out with a Trailhead package with dynamic air suspension. Imagine as you approach dirt road, a simple touch of the display will lift Model Y up from 6” to 9”. As for the skid plate, I’m not sure how that will be possible given that it will have to be large enough to protect the entire battery.
@jameshoffman5524 жыл бұрын
Demultiplex Dfunc - I bought a Y (wi/FSD) for the sole purpose of delivering me to Sierra trailheads. No trips yet - I haven’t stopped drooling.
@demultiplexdfunc1774 жыл бұрын
James Hoffman, you are ahead of me. I’m heading the high Sierra come Labor Day weekend, but unfortunately it will have to be with an ICE truck. I hope the Y will meet your expectations and the challenges that you’ll put it through. Please report back and let us know how your trip went!
@officialyasir4 жыл бұрын
Demultiplex Dfunc I have a cybertruck reservation but I don’t like that Tesla’s don’t have sunroofs. I’m trying to figure out a way to keep my Model 3 and get a Ford Bronco next year. Love me some no roof, no door, open air off-roading
@MVP03184 жыл бұрын
Hey! Your test looks to be incomplet, because of - maybe the most important thing to take in consideration for a car and that`s the SAFETY of the 2 vehicules; where I think TESLA comes in front!
@tongtran0074 жыл бұрын
Although looks is subjective, the model 3 looks a lot better than the ID3. Thanks for the review!
@MsAjax4094 жыл бұрын
That was my take, too. A slightly better looking Bolt.
@user-ht1nf1ff4y4 жыл бұрын
The model 3 is actually a ugly car. It looks like the driver is sitting in a frogs eye.
@tongtran0074 жыл бұрын
1 1 I think model 3’s design elegant, clean and long lasting but can see your point. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
@user-ht1nf1ff4y4 жыл бұрын
@@tongtran007 Indeed it is. About the video : in the last month around 16000 EV's were sold in Germany. Among those cars are only 230 Teslas. If the car would be so superior, they would sell more. That was without the ID3. Musk is rushing things too much. As a result the Teslas have a lot of design flaws. Recently a man lost his driver's license because he used the tablet to adjust his windshield wipers and lost control of his car. Modern cars should do such adjustment by its own. Don't get me wrong. Tesla paved the way for EV's,but they are far from perfect. Actually, they are over-rated.
@tongtran0074 жыл бұрын
1 1 I feel like you’re cherry picking a bit. If you check out global sales in June, Tesla sold more model 3s 35,854 (#1 YTD: 142,346) than the next 9 EVs combined. Model 3 took the crown from the leaf as the worlds best selling EV of all time. There are many reasons why it didn’t do so well in Germany last month but Giga Berlin should change that IMO. I agree Tesla is not perfect. No company is and appreciate other automakers coming out with EVs. This is how we transition to a cleaner, greener world 🌎
@bertpachulski36054 жыл бұрын
The prices are incorrect . $< e . Fixit !
@user-in1gn6fw2eab3 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense to compare those two. You would not compare a model 3 to a Golf. The ID. 3 is in the Golf class. So Yeah. Point less Video.
@Jolly-Green-Steve4 жыл бұрын
The ID3 looks like a Golf slammed together with a Nike shoe. I could see some Kylo Ren looking dude driving it around while smashing his face mask into the dashboard repeatedly.
@ervini3 жыл бұрын
Tesla may be more powerful in software but VW is more powerful in the whole tradition of the car
@orion7894 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, great video. I won suggest though that you point out that considering the close scoring of the vehicle's specification, this forms the rationalisation for the ID3 expected performance in Europe and China, and the reason why it wouldn't be successful in the US. For Americans, the larger vehicle at the same specs means its a nobrainer to choose the Tesla. But in Europe where smaller overall cars are desirable, but the specs are so close, the car may do very well there, and in China, where space is a premium. Would have been a good final point to end on.
@tozzasque4 жыл бұрын
In other words, if you want a better car, buy a VW. If you want a better piece of technology, buy a Tesla. Or wait for GigaBerling to buy a Tesla to get both car and technology 😏.
@SeriouslyJaded4 жыл бұрын
In many ways the tech is better in the ID.3 and this video doesn’t do it justice, missing many features. All the Tesla does better is acceleration and gui.
@tozzasque4 жыл бұрын
@@SeriouslyJaded Only that?
@jen86394 жыл бұрын
@@tozzasque What planet are you on mate? Better car? In what sense?
@tozzasque4 жыл бұрын
@@jen8639 I think that once Tesla got employees that actually are proficient in the assembly line of a factory, there are no more issues to deal with. At least, not the major ones that curse Tesla at this moment.
@jen86394 жыл бұрын
Tozzasque I have a model 3. Do you think I care about a 3mm panel gap when I love the car in every other way. I have had 3 golfs before by the way and this car is years ahead.
@gyozototh15484 жыл бұрын
Model 3 is much bigger car (a cathegorie bigger) then the ID3 (M3: 467cm, ID3: 426) But the passenger area is bigger in ID3 then in M3. You have not metioned the head up display of The ID3
@johnnyrosenberg95224 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the heads-up display at 7:05.
@gregbaniak96503 жыл бұрын
the numbers are not realistic 58kwh/425km *100 = 13.6 kwh/100km it is wishful number. practically you can get about 23.5 kwh/100km which gives you range 246 km. do the math yourself.
@affenwurst4 жыл бұрын
One think that you do not compare is the availability of Service centers for repair and stuff. Depending on where you live, you have to drive a few hours to get there which is really inconvenient and will take a lot of time to fix.
@Ryan-qu1mp4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one
@mentalframer4 жыл бұрын
How can you review these two cars and you haven't driven one of them?
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Easy... Compare the facts that are non-subjective.
@davidruder64443 жыл бұрын
I think that having that folding rear seat is big deal, it would make a big difference in my case.
@jeremy_34 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your Cybertruck t-shirt?? I really want one haha
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Check Etsy - that's where I got mine.
@casperhansen8264 жыл бұрын
I think it is from the Now You Know channel
@vladg233 жыл бұрын
So far for me the minus is charging can be slower. Tesla looks sexier, but id is more practical. Looking different videos I've noticed. how extremely. quiet is id 3, I'd. like to have a compartment in this category.
@joergfeler3514 жыл бұрын
Please have a closer look into the driver assistance features. Compare inside and outside city usage. Just as example: The ID.3 has a speed limiter, so there is no need to continuously check the speed. That is very comfortable inside cities and standard in Europe. Tesla can notify you that the speed is to high, but you need to adjust by yourself. Teslas TACC always try to drive as fast as allowed, which is dangerous inside cities and according to Tesla manual, TACC shall not be used inside cities.
@ettorefieramosca54604 жыл бұрын
Tesla is losing market share in Europe and ID3 and other ev mass market model are coming.
@LarsPallesen4 жыл бұрын
Giga Berlin is coming too. And with that Tesla Model Y.
@aliancemd4 жыл бұрын
Tesla starts from 45K Euros where I live. ID.3 fully kitted will be around that price.
@patryko.18323 жыл бұрын
Thats just a false claim. They have too big demand in US and China so its a lot better for them to sell there than to export. Wait for Giga Berlin. We will see
@ettorefieramosca54603 жыл бұрын
@@patryko.1832 No, Tesla has almost 5000 Cars produced unsold.
@patryko.18323 жыл бұрын
@@ettorefieramosca5460 what kind of stat is that? Tesla is actually selling EVERY car they produce. There might be 5k not delivered, but it takes time to do it, right? And how many undelivered cars are there for VW? :)
@DuesenbergJ4 жыл бұрын
ID3 is a compact car and Model 3 is s midsize car. Not really in the same class. But Tesla probably going to bild a smaller car that’s going to compete more directly with ID3 and VW is coming with ID4 and other car that’s in the same class as Model 3. That going to be interesting. But then Tesla still is upmarket compared to VW.
@yggdrasil90394 жыл бұрын
In Australia, the Tesla Model 3 SR+ is around $83,000 AUD, or just under $60,000 USD. Not sure why this is but it could be because we have to pay various EV taxes, which are designed to discourage the driving of EVs and encourage the use of petrol and diesel vehicles. This policy seems to be in place because some government advisers moonlight on the board of Saudi Aramco and also because the less people who drive petrol the less fuel excise the government gets.
@HenriZwols4 жыл бұрын
Cargo should be a win for ID.3, not a tie. In the ID.3 you can fold the rear seats!
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
The Model 3 Seats fold flat as well... the only advantage is the hatchback. A tie is fair because Tesla has more cargo space.
@JPetr943 жыл бұрын
@@Cleanerwatt Check out TeslaBjorn bananabox test for both cars.
@rofsjan4 жыл бұрын
I like Volkswagen ID.3 much more than Tesla.
@mounbakko58714 жыл бұрын
... tesla good at responding to issues with fit-and-finish issues? ... on what grounds do you make the claim? ... exposing bais with blind cheering...
@wermagst4 жыл бұрын
The Model 3 may have a larger cargo space nominally, but because of the hatchback design, the ID.3's usability is much better. And that despite it being 40 cm shorter. It also has a much smaller turning circle (10m vs 12 m) and is more agile, which is important for driving on Europe's narrow roads. P.S. Regarding technology, Tesla still hasn't managed to implement traffic sign recognition. VW's Travel Assist does it almost perfectly.
@jen86394 жыл бұрын
Are you seriously comparing Teslas autonomous driving software to VW's. Tesla has managed to implement traffic sign recognition, its the European laws that prevent implementation. VW's ui and software design in that car is so bad the head guy recently got fired. It's laggy and unusable. Pls do your research.
@wermagst4 жыл бұрын
@@jen8639 So "the laws" prohibit traffic sign recognition, yet VW has had the technology on the road for at least 2 years? Right. And I'm not talking about FSD, I'm talking about the autopilot. VWs travel assistant is actually better.
@jen86394 жыл бұрын
Wermagst have you driven a Tesla? You sound like you haven’t.
@wermagst4 жыл бұрын
@@jen8639 I did, I liked it very much and actually considered buying the Model 3. The main reasons I didn't is that the nearest service center is over 100 km away and the sedan type tailgate. I now have leased a very small car (Citigo) which thanks to incentives is practically free (55 € a month) and will look again for a car in 3 years. The EV market will have changed a lot by then.
@basemgerges19793 жыл бұрын
By the way, you were claiming something about Norway being the holy grail.. check this out: Tesla beats ID3 insideevs.com/news/464304/norway-ev-sales-record-december-2020/
@amjsutherland4 жыл бұрын
Gave up at the “cargo storage” entry. Comparing a saloon with it’s restricted access to a hatchback is frankly ludicrous. A saloon is never as useful for cargo carriage, and to suggest that a “frunk” can make up for the rear storage being low and restricted is just daft.
@tf16394 жыл бұрын
VW should be congratulated. Not bad
@spawndwalk4 жыл бұрын
it doesnt make sense to compare US prices on Tesla with GER prices on the ID3. The Model 3/Y is the better car, I have a reservation for the Model Y, but the ID3 is actually cheaper here. The model 3 costs are as follow: SR+ 45900€ LR 55000€ P 61000€ thats without incentives
@daveamies50314 жыл бұрын
Overall a good comparison, just a couple of things you missed: - cargo space: there is not much point having a warehouse sized room if you can only access it from a 1 meter square window. so being a hatchback the ID3 clearly wins this as the model 3 is a sedan and it's "trunk" is for all intents and purposes effectively useless. - external vehicle size: you completely missed this category, I know the model 3 is the smallest Tesla, but it's still enormous, there is a reason that large sedans don't sell well outside the US, it's because they are difficult to manoeuvre through narrow streets, shopping centre car parks, and people driveways. So again the ID3 will win this category. To put this in perspective the Model 3 is longer than many people movers (minivans I believe you call them). I'm not trying to be negative towards Tesla (and I've never owned a VW), I was really hoping that the model 3 would be a small hatch back because Tesla already had a large sedan (Model S), so making a second large sedan (model 3) didn't make sense and disappointed me when it was released. You should do this comparison to the Peugeot e-208, it like the model 3 is already available in Europe and isn't plagued with the software issues that VW has because Peugeot has been making production EV's since the mid 90's.
@tbnzet4 жыл бұрын
Calling the Model 3's trunk useless is a little far fetched :D Model 3 is the same length as an Audi A4 or BMW 3 series, far from enormous.
@daveamies50314 жыл бұрын
@@tbnzet As an example, I was helping a friend move house a few years ago and put a 6 draw dresser table + the large mirror, a small dining table + the 4 dining chairs in my Honda Jazz(Fit) which is nearly a meter shorter than the Model 3 and narrower as well. I would like to see someone even attempt to put 2 dining chairs in the boot of the model 3, I doubt that is even possible let alone the larger items, this is only 1 example I can provide many, This is not unique to the model 3, all sedans boots (trunks) are useless. The current Audi A4 and BMW 3 series are both enormous vehicles as well, so my point remains that Tesla already had a large sedan (Model S) so there was no need for a second large sedan. I actually remember when the BMW 3 series the Honda Civic and the Toyota Corolla were small cars BTW my wife's people mover (minivan) seats 7 adults comfortably and is shorter (@4.6m) than the Model 3 (@4.7m), so by this measure alone I cant see how you can classify the model 3 as anything but enormous?
@tbnzet4 жыл бұрын
@@daveamies5031 Yes, if you need to move furniture any sedan won't be the best choice, that's not a typical scenario for most people though. But Model 3 is available with a trailer hitch, so that could solve that need. I disagree on using the word enormous for Model 3, it's just an exaggerated word. What would you call an Audi A6, BMW 5 series or 7 series then? I just know that I have no problems driving or parking my Model 3 in the small european town I live in.
@monstercolorfunco43913 жыл бұрын
The mic is like a cyborg xxx movie. the narration and content is awesome though.
@teslafudge15854 жыл бұрын
The 3 dominates, but it is a different class of vehicle. Safety when it comes to the structure it might be close...
@MuziekmeesterKevin4 жыл бұрын
Relevant video's keep it up! good work
@SHUKRISAHAMGLOBAL3 жыл бұрын
subscribing to this channel because of this awesome video. kudos
@peterzerfass46094 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can compare the two. The Model 3 is a luxury sedan. The id3 is...well..not luxury. The interior is cheap, the screen is tiny, the trunk is small-ish and then there's the elephant in the room: the software is crap. (also it doesn't charge as fast and can't use the supercharger network).....Plus: if you buy something from VW after dieselgate then you will never learn (then again: 50% voted republican...so who am i kidding?).
@andreasfrose91504 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with you?
@tbnzet4 жыл бұрын
I agree on most points. But no need to draw politics into it. I don't care which side is elected, all politicians are untrustworthy, and it definitely does not relate to choosing an EV.
@SvikDK4 жыл бұрын
While you try to make this seems like a real comparison, you fail big time. I agree on the 3 first category, but on Tech and features you just pick a few things from the ID.3, and then claim the Model 3 is a winner. Where is the mention of LED Matrox lights, that are superior to the Model 3 led, apple carplay, android auto, heatpump, seats with thigh suppert ? Thats in the Id.3 , and the model 3 have nothing like it. Also you keep the spin about bad software in the ID.3. It´s true, that the first cars will lack 2 function, that will come latest in Q1 2021. But beside that, the software in the car is working as intended, and with no flaws. So many videoes is out about that. Response on the touchscreen is even better compared to the Model 3. So no, ID. 3 wins that catergøry. On the drivers assists the ID.3 comes with car2car, that is a huge increase in safety, it has real signreading, and adjusting speed automaticly, the cruise control reads the map, and adjust speed in tight curves etc. Can the Model 3 that ?. While Tesla FSD sounds great, reality is, that the present systems are full of problems, like phantom breaking, lanekeep that goes off, when camereas get dirty etc. Tesla is no where near selfdriving cars, and beside laws in europe prohibit self driving, since beside the tecknical stuff, there are so many other issues, that needs to be solved first. The only places the Model 3 beats the Id.3 is in accelleration, charging speed, and the fact it can tow.
@johnnyrosenberg95224 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Tesla don't let other cars charge at their superchargers. Elon says that the important thing for Tesla is that electric vehicles will take over, and he even said Tesla is willing to help other manufacturers with development of electric vehicles in some way. Since the charging at a supercharger is no longer free of cost, wouldn't availability for everyone make that happen quicker? And wouldn't Tesla also benefit from that? And maybe that would also help Tesla to build even more superchargers and even quicker. Seems like a win-win, doesn't it? Of course reality is usually more complex than meets the eye, so what am I missing here?
@johnmoore9314 жыл бұрын
I caught him cheating, moving the numbers around. He shows prices of the ID.3 models. But then, at the 4:03 mark of the video, he compares comparable models of the two cars. He slyly lowers the ID.3 price to 40,200 euros (from the previous stated 43,680) by subtracting the German rebate, while NOT attaching that same rebate to the Tesla. (Tesla stays at 42,900) , so that the ID.3 looks cheaper to buy, WHICH IT IS NOT. So then that at the end, he gives the VW the check mark for cheaper, instead of the Tesla.
@Gresteh4 жыл бұрын
Nope, the Tesla price already included the german rebate, check the video again.
@Tom55data4 жыл бұрын
The tesla is an aspirational car, the ID3 is a peoples car.
@alanhaugland30073 жыл бұрын
where can I buy the T-shirt you are wearing?
@england83314 жыл бұрын
VW couldn't even get the electrical in their ICE vehicles down....now they have a whole car that is a electric. Imagine downloading the software updates...all of a sudden your car has leprosy
@abraxastulammo99404 жыл бұрын
Funny to mention it when there is only one car which has parts like steering wheel, back seats or rear bumper falling off of it. 😂🙈
@msl52534 жыл бұрын
Wow. There's so much wrong with this review. It was done like a pure Electric/Tesla fan boy's perspective. Did you ever talk about how the ID3 drives?...That's the most important thing to most (especially non Tesla) drivers. The ID3 has been reported very quiet and pleasant to drive with good dynamics and a comfortable ride. How about, what's it's like sitting in the back of both vehicles as well? Regarding their respective ranges: I wouldn't be surprised if the VW surpassed the Model 3's range based off what we know about everyday Tesla's in the wild vs EPA. We'll see? On Safety, you compared the ID3 to a Golf. Well, unless that golf was an EV with a skateboard battery. They're not comparable. Everyone knows, Skateboard Batteries add to the overall structural integrity of the vehicle, and thus usually very safe. I'd wait for the Insurance Institute Rating. or give the Model 3 the Prospective Nod from previous ratings. Saying all that: The ID3, should have similar or more Level 2 driving aids (lane keep, warning to steer the vehicles; keep speed and distance, read signs, speed limits, etc.) and safety equipment the Model 3 has . Early reviews indicate this as well? Did you really, just dismiss the ID3, and give Tesla/The Model 3 the benefit of the doubt on Fit and Finish and service!?....... And where do you get off, making a rating on Full Self Driving. Says who!? How do you even list that as a legitimate criteria, as it's not on most non Tesla Drivers mind, and it won't be around for years, if ever? It's so embarrassing to hear a reviewer hang his hat on that after years of empty promises with vapid hyperbole. If this cars gonna be important. It's gotta attract the non-Tesla Drivers (who just happen to be 99% of car buyers). As long as the ID3 looks great; drives well; is relatively spacious and quiet, the software doesn't have to be perfect or top of the line. It just has to be functional. Buyers just want a good car. Lastly, you didn't review either of these cars, particularly the ID3. So, how is anything you said final or makes sense (such as giving the Model 3 the nod on fit and finish)? Wow. Too funny. Tesla Logic.
@thijsraaijmakers59614 жыл бұрын
Vind het een beetje American tolk! -Bij ID-3 Draaicirkel kleiner bij remmen met voet eerst regenereren en dan pas mechanisch remmen smaller bij parkeren , dus beter uit te stappen. korter bij parkeren meerdere schermen, zodat het meer duidelijker wordt. betere ruimte indeling Waarschijnlijk betere service door dealers. borden herkenning, en daarop goed van te voren snelheidsaanpassing Betere carrosserie spuitwerk en sluiting. Achterwiel aandrijving, dus geen slip bij snel aanrijden. -Tesla geringere luchtweerstand betere software Sneller in alles Als eerste goed begonnen met elektrische doorbraak (petje af)
@seattlevkk3 жыл бұрын
People keep saying tech in Tesla, but living In the Apple ecosystem, Tesla doesn’t do carplay and some apps that I like having via carplay will not be there. Also I use Apple Music and tidal and will have to use my phone to navigate the library instead of the screen which is like going back 5 tech years. You should have an entertainment section separate from tech. I know Tesla has Netflix and KZfaq and internet subscription. Don’t know about VWs. Tesla also doesn’t do satellite radio in the newer Y’s because of starlink presumably.
@DooMMasteR3 жыл бұрын
the ID.3 and ID.4 both have Android Auto and Apple Car Play
@seattlevkk3 жыл бұрын
@@DooMMasteR yes I know I was talking at that time about Netflix and KZfaq
@DooMMasteR3 жыл бұрын
@@seattlevkk ahh okay, that is something most people do not care for I guess. The fact that Tesla does not support Android Auto nor Apple Car Play yet, weights a lot heavier for many because it locks them down to Tesla's select services. Choice is king, while Tesla's system is still very nice, it is somewhat limiting when interacting with everyday services that people have become used too. Accessing parking apps. Messaging services. Audio apps, taxi/fleet management software and a lot more.
@Gaming_auf_Ex4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari F50 vs Opel Meriva. Whos the better Car? XD
@danielcolceru38404 жыл бұрын
First of all I am European. 2nd both cars are very expensive, so I won't buy any of these. In Europe we don't care so much about horse power. If you got a 105 horse power its more than enough for highways or for any other reasons. Yes, we care very much about quality, so yeah maybe Tesla is better software equipped but no thank you. 3rd we basically don't need huge cars, a hatchback is just fine. The longest distance I've drove one way was about 770 km (481,25 miles) from one European country to another European country. 4th if the car can provide a range of at least 300-400 km that would be just fine. 5th we don't spend money on unnecessary stuff, you might call us cheap, well we know to make a difference between an investment and a car, that takes you from A to B. Conclusions: if Tesla does not fix their quality problems and do not lower the price in Europe, their sales won't be great. We have another mindset, we don't need or care to show off with a big, shinny car that might rust in 5 years! Thanks but not thanks! :)
@tbnzet4 жыл бұрын
I'm European too, and you can't just generalize like that... Many people like fast cars, otherwise why do you think all the manufacturers also offers bigger engines in their lineup. Some people like bigger cars than a hatchback, otherwise you wouldn't see BMW 3 and 5 series, Audi A4, A5, A6, Mercedes C and E class, Opel Insignia etc. etc. Tesla quality is not an issue anymore. Take a look at this video for a long term review of a Tesla Model 3 that has done 68.000 miles, and driven a lot as an Uber taxi, with literally thousands of people in and out of the car kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMumkqeEr-C7kWw.html
@Lovejazz014 жыл бұрын
Though I am a little disappointing in its styling vs the concept, I do think it is a great EV that should sell in Europe quite well. The ID4 crossover EV is what VW wants to bring across the water to America first, but that will still be a year away , but after 5 or 6 years of promises and concepts VW is finally producing them.
@rtfazeberdee35194 жыл бұрын
Quick tip - VAT = "Value Added Tax" so you've got "Value Added Tax Tax" :)
@Cleanerwatt4 жыл бұрын
Good point - thanks for pointing that out.
@MsAjax4094 жыл бұрын
VW fanboys are flexing their muscles. Let the fight begin.
@jameshoffman5524 жыл бұрын
The VW ID.3 is awesome! [were it existant/available]
@trevortoland47114 жыл бұрын
Just because they're all stuck under a beer tent in a parking lot somewhere in Bavaria doesn't mean they don't exist, does it?
@abraxastulammo99404 жыл бұрын
VW was very smart to wait until combined incentives for the customer reached 9480 EUR plus 3 % lower VAT for the rest of 2020 as covid stimulus in Germany.
@johnmoore9314 жыл бұрын
On his key metrics he did NOT list safety fter Tesla scored higher on safety???????? Is safety not among the top nine considerations in buying a car?
@kuldeuec4 жыл бұрын
Safety and tech should carry more weightage in your fix 1 point system..