Glorious does fit perfectly the talent and work put into this animation

I know, right?! Like... you don't even need to know what it is about... You just stop, watch, and in a few frame are pulled in so hard you have to remain and watch to the end. This was a time when animation was actually its own art form, not "simply" a motion picture.

Watch red line!

Try this lads, it's legend of the galactic heroes, have 1 more too. Looking for good hand drawn stuff. If yee can share the name I will find it. Enjoy this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ab6ceNWJq7vVY3k.html

@@billyelliot4141 Thanks for the reference!

What ist the name of the Anime?

It was the highest budget anime film of the time, you can tell by the crazy amount of detail in many scenes.

Old school is the best

This movie flopping was what made Gainax make Evangelion.

wings of honneamise. It’s hardly obscure.

This kind of work is what made me want to be an animator. Reality is what dissuaded me from my dream. Sad tbh, but such is life.

No, this can be done now more than ever. As long as it is sold internationally. A lot more money can be gained from doing this than in those years where this masterpiece is gatekeep inside japan for many years.

They could still make these styles a lot cheaper and easier than in the past. The problem is, just like Hollywood, the Japanese anime industry doesn't want to take any risks, they'll only produce the safest works with the biggest public appeal, which means carbon copy isekai with tons of fanservice so they can sell figurines afterwards.

In western we had Thundercats, X-Men, etc (I know they were animated in east), but today all is Cartoon Network style.

Agree 100%. It would be nice if, instead of focusing on a super high volume that even the most dedicated anime fan could never keep up with even if he only watched anime as a full time job, they produced 1/4 or even less per year, but made it stellar like this.

I can't over express the joy of watching that.

@@kalibininsabunu がさまやは

I don’t speak japanese but because of this comment I could perfectly imagine what was going on.

@@GillesVandenoostende the things they said literally suggested a science victory lmao so even with dialog, it needs a lot more context than this scene

The guy about to get a science victory is my ally, so I’m just being a sneaky cunt and sabotaging his spaceports.

@@takahaction I think he's referring to it being all hand-drawn rather than computer graphics.

japan use to make top quality japanimation, now they make garbage cg animu.

this is hand drawn "Cel animation", not garbage generic over use cg animu what we have today, its a disgrace. cel animation always ages well with time when done right, Akira 1988 is a pure example.

@@jglg7238 Its not "a disgrace" it's a valid tactic. Use cheep methods, but claim it costs more money then ever. Just like "The rings of power" the first season cost 1 billion.

Animation was made by hand, so everything seem to fit together and there is lots of details, but honestly sound designs leave some to be desired and 80's stories are least for me kinda mess. Sure there is story but lots of it is trippy as hell and sometimes seem to end before story is concluded. I get some are nostalgic and there might be some deeper meaning behind the story, but philosophy is last thing i like to think while tuning out from world to anime.

祝

そりゃ日本がお金持っててライターを高賃金で雇ってたからな。今の日本はあまり労働者と若者に優しくない。だから当然ながら次世代なんか生まれず低賃金で雇った中国、韓国、そして東南アジアの底質な描写や画質になっているんだ。その上今のアニメ業界は戦争ものや、鬱、ダークファンタジーを教育に悪いとし、漫画でどんなに売り上げをたくさん出してもまともにアニメ化しない。東京グールreがその良い例だろう。まったく悔しくて仕方がない。日本特有の良さはいったいどこにおいてきたのだ日本は！

What the year of this great movie ???

Really miss old time anime..... Story also good....

はえ〜提督もアニメ鑑賞するんすねぇ

敬礼

ジャブローのモグラめ…！ 穴に潜ってこんな面白そうなアニメを観ていたとは…

無能なくせに、面白いアニメを見つける能力は有能かよ

地の言葉で喋りたまえ。

Not to mention you can tell how much they studied Saturn V launch footage. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erGkidOn37uqYY0.html

The rocket is the russian R7 Semyorka which used RD-107 and RD-108 engines. In the anime the rocket was modified and they said to use hydrogen for the upper stage with an engine that looked like the US RL-10, which makes perfect sense as it's an engine that works best in the vacuum of space and the hydrogen fuel gives it excellent ISP. To summarise Gainax did their fucking research on this with the help of NASA. Anime back then was so fucking cool, at least Ghibli worked with descendants from the Italian plane designer Gianni Caproni, using plane designs later to be used on the film the Wind Rises. I wish we had more anime like this (albeit this almost bankrupted Gainax due to the lack of sales and how expensive the movie was) , these kinds of masterpieces are an inspiration to aspiring engineers or astronauts, unlike most of todays anime.

For me it was debris from the exploding APC landing in the water. Detail is the watchword here.

I am speechless

@@la_potat6065 whaaat you mean Planetes isn't inspiring to aspiring astronauts and engineers?

ただしアマチュアといっても傑物揃いだった

@@papillon407ify 天才集まりすぎ問題

只のアマチュアでは無いよ。(^^)

全員プロだよ。駆け出しと言うのが正しい。

宮崎駿はじめ、アニメ業界人が皆、嫉妬したとか。するわ。

Agreed

なんで戦闘をしてるの？

​@@user-greenteaBUDOU発射の成功率を少しでも上げるために赤道に近い場所に発射台が有るんだけど敵国との国境付近でしかも中立地帯を超えてしまっていたから 実際は両国色々な陰謀や思惑が有るんだけどね

@@user-kh1xt2kj6y 危険な行為をしてるからなんだね

It is a beautiful tale... I have watched many times and would recommend it to anyone

スターウォーズ「は？」

I know right, the detail is just top notch.

@@sick-and-sour 当時は中学生。衝撃を受け、アニメ業界で働きたいとすら思いました。 でも、どうやって就職するのか分からず今に至ります。 It was very shocking. After seeing this, I wanted to work in the anime industry, but I still don't know how to get a job. This was 30 years ago. . .

@@blackbird2420 I feel that bro, job is kind of scarce after COVID. Just don't push yourself hard, for real.

しかもスタッフは当時殆ど素人集団ですからね… 今となっては揃える事すら叶わないオールスターキャスト！

to me, the reason it failed is because it was made for the wrong target audience. this is literaly a movie about a guy becoming a christian. and while the animation is gorgeous, the story itself has a very slow pacing. its the right movie, made at the wrong time, to the wrong people.

@@marcosdheleno Well ... a Christian who tries to rape a woman .... about half way through the movie and she takes blame and prey's for him?!?? Animation = amazing / Story = Weak

@@huebdoo business as usual for anime

​@@huebdoo that scene was really off for the otherwise incredible movie

@@huebdoo In any moment the rape attempt was made pleasant or glorified, the girl was afraid and the guy behaved like some wild animal. The girl's effort to brush it off says a lot about her character without exposition, I'm not gonna try to deconstruct her personality but she brushed it off as it was a natural thing to do. What the director expect of you as the public is understand that this is a dysfunctional interaction and there is something wrong with both of them, the guy for even trying to do it and the girl for accepting it as a normal thing. The characters are not cardboard cutouts, they depict real people, ugly and imperfect people. Your comment seems to say that you did not like the story because there was a scene of rape, and as rape is wrong the story is wrong as well?

はっきり言って実写の100倍くらい映像に凝ってると思う。一枚一枚の絵の情報量が多い

セル何枚重ねたんやろ

いい意味で気が狂ってる

そこから入ってくるロケットエンジンのノズル周りの作画とかとんでもない労力かかったんだろうな。氷の破片もエンジン周りのフィルムもノズルから出る炎とかも全部細かく動いてるから、今でこそCGで作れはするけど、CGが無い時代にこの作画はヤバい

i wholly agree with you 70s, 80s and 90s anime were the peak.

That shit had to be drawn by HAND, just look at the detail of the animation physics, fucking spectacular.

2018 anime : ONII-CHANNNNN!

I AGREE, IS JUST AMAZING ANIMATION.

You know, they actually almost went bankrupt because of this proruction quality. They already had severe drawbacks back then in the bubble era

同感！ あと、切り離したパーツが壊れて散っていくシーンも！

発射された機銃の曳光弾やロケット弾の軌跡が重力に引かれたり風に煽られて一発々ずれいく表現も良いよね

こちらグリア天文台マジャホ！確認した！軌道速度を出してない！失敗だぁ〜 完

庵野の仕事やなあ。

アポロ11号の月面着陸の生中継の時のベトナム戦争で戦地にいる米軍兵士達もテレビを観て同じような事があったらしいですね…

昔をなめすぎ

I know you write this a year ago.. but i have just read it. You write it beautifully sir. Thanks

Agreed. Looks excellent on every level.

Have you actually watched any 80,90s anime???

@@Bluespicygreen Just to get into an anime pissing match, but yes. I have watched 80's and 90's anime. Quite possibly, far more than yourself, far earlier than yourself.

Bushido: Units fight at full strength even when damaged.

hahahahaha best comment! :-D

This reference is Golden

Nobunaga has won and Nobunaga has lost.

着想が面白いですね　想像出来ます

王立宇宙軍の話の内容と一致ですよね。。 ほんとに、世界観の作り込みがすごすぎる。 こんな国あったんじゃないかと、当時中1の私はこの映画に没頭しました

文化祭で上映したな～懐かし～改めて見るとアニメが丁寧ですね！

むかし計算してみたんだけど、自分の計算では、同じ寸法精度だと円柱形より円盤形の方が使用する勤続のロスが少ないって結果になった

イヤ、プロペラ戦闘機で戦える程度の低性能ジェットエンジン機の時代背景で旧ソ連のボストーク見たいな有人ロケットを造れるんかいな？と思って見ていた。

この技法がガイナックスオリジナルかはわかりませんが、これ以降のガイナックス作品では、この技法がよく使われるようになりましたｗ

ナディアでの 『バリヤーか』 『その通りだ』 は有名ですね。

Actaully those are real retro technology form 1930-1950s, most of those were rader screens, but some also use as computer screen. Squares were more like late 1960s technology, and were very wasteful but able to mass produced.

Thats true but I`m talking about at a somewhat deeper level like architecture. Look, for example at the cobbles and flagstones in the streets or the overall shape of the buildings. Nothing seems to be laid out in anything like a grid system and this `no straight line` approach also carries over into vehicle design like the trains and road vehicles (cars are all three-wheelers). The space tech is straight out of the 1960`s with the rocket looking a lot like a Russian A7/Vostok.

French before WW2 was also heavily made out of circle and cruves, just look at the pre war tanks and mehicanical and you can tell where they got the design inspired form.

Even the music choice is unorthodox.

Even the rocket is based off the Soviet R7 design, which is still used to this day.

That happens in war. In the non-fiction book Chickenhawk, a huge battle raging on the ground between the Viet Cong and U.S helicopter troops stops as everyone on both sides looks to see what happens when a SAM chases a Phantom 2 fighter.

@@yeussean The Kingdom had been developing the first rocket to carry a man to space, and it had been highly publicized. The Republic was convinced that it was a weapon, and wanted to capture it intact. The Kingdom wanted a war and deliberately chose a launch site near the border, posted inadequate defenses, and ordered the launch delayed. If the Republic captured the rocket, the Kingdom could then declare war. The rocket crew launched against orders, achieving a victory for science and the growth of mankind against the warmongering countries.

@@Bleachsoul13 Sounds like some plot for a Civilization Campaign lol.

@@Bleachsoul13 Thanks for the summary. In real history.. it is yes, the first man in space and the first American man in space all rides rockets originally purposed as ballistic missiles XD. Except the putting the launch site near border tho.

That's incredible,I love worldbuilding stuff like that,and it totally makes sense.

Also really like how the Republican fighters seem to be using early jet engines, whereas the Kingdom fighters are powered by an overengineered turboprop in a pusher configuration.

Comona Islands

Deadbolt Don ahh miss that masterpieces

is ace combat 5 - Arkbird part 1

Shattered Skies

The megalith mission. The music from that was great.

Be old sux, but you lived in golden era...

Although I've seen and love Akira, I havent seen this movie. Can you put what I just saw in some kind of context ?

@@stretchpadawan1 Some historical information is that Royal Space Force was produced by Gainax, the same production and animation company that went on to make Neon Genesis Evangelion. One of its chief animation designers was Hideaki Anno, creator and director of Neon Genesis Evengelion and director of Shin Godzilla. Gainax lost a lot of money producing Royal Space Force because they didn't want to compromise on the detailed production.

@@stretchpadawan1 The Royal Space Force (1987) is set on the alternative reality Earth. One of the nations is developing a space programme. The prospective first spaceman is initially unenthusiastic, but, after meeting a religious young woman, he gets inspired for the great deeds, and pursues the project more actively. The government intentionally makes the launch in the demilitarized zone, to provoke war; and thus the rival nation is trying to attack the launch zone, what you see in the video. The idea behind the movie was that reality is good and interesting and that young people should reembrace it. In this respect, the movie predicted the future, but, unfortunately, the lesson was not learnt... The Japanese youth are more isolated than ever. And not just the Japanese.

really?Disney employed japanese animators for their tv series but this is new to me.

@@carlosluismendez7392 Back in the 90s Tms Entertainment was one of the studios that did the animation. Thoseguys were really good. they worked on Duck Tales episodes of Batman the animated series,Tiny toons, Bionic 6, Mighty Orbots, Glaxy Rangers and Akira. Way too many things to name.

The next scene, where the camera angle flew over the smoke stream got me hooked. Pretty nice old-school animation.

Yeah there wont be a artirst like fhis in other million year

同じです！

CGのドラえもん、ルパン三世・・・ 観る気になりません。

熟練工の技術がしばしば機械を超えるのと同じことじゃない？？

あゝ、金かけさせてくれないからだよ。余程雑で安っぽいものでも無い限り、別に作画が上質だからって観客数が増えたり儲けが増えたりするわけじゃないだろ？そんなことより売れっ子の声優にしゃべらせたり難解にして謎解きさせたりキャンペーンに金掛けたほうがいい。ビジネスさ。

@@satoshishitamori7241 作品失敗を連発させてる、 一回成功したやり方以外思い付けない典型的なアホプロデューサーみたいやな。

男に媚びた萌えアニメ…エロい大人向けアニメ…転生モノ…もう最近のアニメにはうんざりだ

What about Redline?

@Alex Podolinsky better dead than red you fucking commie

What is the name of this movie

陸軍じゃなかった？格好 あごめん、空軍の人にも馬鹿にされるってことね。

小林慎司 皮肉めいた感じにも聞こえる..聞こえない？

@@user-nb5id3io6w 聞こえなかったな。 詩的(ポエム)にしている所が、｢コイツら、漢だな…｣( ´-ω- )ﾌｯと思わせた。 皮肉なら｢全く宇宙の事しか考えないバカヤロウ共だ｣のような台詞になっていただろう。 そのような台詞に男性の観客はこう思うはずだ。｢オンナにはわかんねーよ。ヾﾉ ◜ω◝ )｣

@@user-nb5id3io6w いろいろですよ。死ぬかもしれないのに逃げない人たちの呆れや苛立ち、 と同時に浮世離れしたことに情熱を注ぎこめることにうらやましいと思う気持ち。 車内の運転手に『格好つけて』皮肉めかしていますけど、自分自身の中にある何かを自覚したくなくてそう言ってる感じですよ。

@@user-vo7zm5dd9p コメ有難うございます。そう言う事ですｗ

Pot Neko ３０回はみています。途中からスタッフの先の見えない、意味のない、だれにも気づかれない熱い思いと、王立宇宙軍の話の内容（貧しい人のいるなか、多額の税金を使い宇宙へいくこと）がリンクしていったと岡田さんは言ってました。 まさに予算も時間もセル画数も、だれもそこまで求めてないのに、やり込むことに意味があると、すべてを注ぎ込んだらしいです。 しかし、その情報を知らないときでも、言いようのない感動をおぼえたので、絶対その価値はあったとおもいます。

Enfilade fire :)

mvb MVB さん 同感です。

反論する。最高傑作だと思う。

なるほど、その反論大いにありです

むしろ傑作でないと思う人はいない

同志よ…………！！(´；ω；｀)

このアニメも歴史の教科書に載るくらい立派だよ！

5:46 :O

Amen brother! It was the GOLDEN AGE of Anime! Just like films like Pumpkin Head was peak practical effects

まぁ、オネアミスは爆死したんですけどね

indeed, in fact Anno Hideaki was not satisfy with the quality of outsourcing works, he paid with his own wallet and ask brunch of top animetor friends for the launching scene. all those ice pieces during the launch, they were drawed by hands piece by piece!

@J Jimenez Crap was always and will always be produced, this movie is just the exception that proves the rule. Don't look at it as a taste of the 80s, it was amazing even for the time. Never take this amount of effort for granted.

It actually did not cost very much by modern standards. I have contracted production art for video games in the past, and the real problem is SPEED, not money. The quality of a production using traditional animation falls to the most common denominator of skill. Meaning it does not matter what your best artist can do; he would have to limit himself to what the least skilled artist working on the production piece can do. Unless you really expect your best artist to draw everything. Furthermore, in traditional animation, productivity scales linearly. One artist produces one artist's worth of work. You can re-use art, but there are many limitations on this. By contrast, one skilled digital artist can produce a CGI model or backdrop, and once that is done, it is trivially simple for more junior artists to manipulate it, re-use it in their own works, etc. Productivity now scales geometrically, since you don't need the same guy drawing the rocketship or cityscape in every panel to guarantee consistency. Nor do you need to recruit and entire team of skilled artists to imitate said guy's work. So for a big project like The Wings of Honnêamise, you either need a large and skilled group of artists or a ridiculously long production timeline. Because not everybody is playing by the same rules anymore, such luxuries do not exist. That is why more and more CGI is being added to anime.

I listened to the Director's commentary on the DVD... this was the very first animated film to break $1M after currency conversion. Even though they were under crunch time at the end, they added a few scenes not originally intended, to give it 'atmosphere' such as the launch pad being all lit up on the night before launch.

@@bellgrand well time is money

The tanks as well

The music being based on the Phrygian scale does that

Hi, sry for resurrecting this one but what movie is this from?

@@SturmgeschuetzIV Wings of Honneamise (Studio Gainax, 1987)

@@SturmgeschuetzIV This scene is a masterpiece, but the film isn't underrated. It's terrible. I tried watching it one night and couldn't even make it to this scene. The plot is boring, slow, and confusing. The action is almost all packed at the end. There is an uncomfortable cringy rape scene perpetrated by the bumbling main character. The characters are not likeable or even understandable. It's bad. Really bad. The animators and directors did something great with this scene but what the film needed was a writer. Even a mediocre plot would have made this film a collection item, but the plot it has is just downright bad.

@@Synaps4 Dude I was disapointed the first time I watched it too, but that's because I was young wanna see some action. But when you consider this movie as it is, a meditation and a glorious graphic work, then it's unrivaled. It's all about humanity, misunderstanding between humans, war, vanity, power, politic etc.

相当の枚数のセル画を 使わないと 気味悪い位の壊れかたはしないだろな！

ヌルヌル過ぎるーっ！！相当な枚数だ！

セル画って1枚描くだけでもめんどくせーんだろ？

気持ち悪いくらいの神作画ですよね…

Do you remember the english title please?

@@guillaumeauger4739 les ailes d'honeamisse

これガキ（制作側）がやりたいことやるために、どんだけ大人（スポンサー）を 騙したんだよっていうぐらい酷いことやったからねｗ　 それでもバブルの頃で財布の紐がユルユルだから何とかなったんだが、そのあたりが 本編の内容とリンクした青春群像の二重構造になっているところが面白いんだよ