Exactly!

They just couldnt resist those smart,new uniforms.I’m thinkin like Barney Fife here...

We brought 30,000 scientists and engineers over after the war moron

You're hired!

whats so strange about it? There is a Waffen SS soldier buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Lauri Allan Törni was a Finnish soldier who fought under three flags: as a Finnish Army Second Lieutenant of the Fourth Independent Jäger Infantry Battalion against the Soviets in the Winter War. as a German Army Captain (under the alias Larry Lane) of the Finnish Volunteer Battalion of the Waffen-SS when he fought the Soviets on the Eastern Front in World War II;. and as a United States Army Captain (under the alias "Larry Thorne") when he served in the U.S. Army Special Forces in the Vietnam War. Törni died in a helicopter crash during the Vietnam War and he was promoted to rank of Major posthumously. His remains were located three decades later and then buried in Arlington National Cemetery; he is the only former member of the Waffen SS to be interred there.

After one side stacked on the other for two consecutive matches.

Well Finland did.

@@thunberbolttwo3953 what do you mean?

Battlefield has NEVER known how team balancing works

@@camjam8367 Twas a TF2 joke.

Hess was kind of an idiot, when he got caught he was barely able to think for himself. There are some people who claim that in the second half of his imprisonment he did change and even called Neonazies who demonstrated suport for him "stupid". I don't know if that is true, but I hope so, because it means that even somebody like him can actually change.

@@MyRegardsToTheDodo sounds a bit like the desperate hope of getting released earlier from prison

@@kibbz_ So you could claim insanity?

Lol

@M.Z. Lol I got the movie reference.

Dont forget estonians

@@ricomuru9486 as the r/balticstates subreddit has discovered they only recently learned speech, man that subreddit is fun to look at sometimes tho estonians are always called slow and Latvians poor

@@caws3767 nothing like casual hatred for poor white people! Am I right?!

@@caws3767 And the goblins in the south, or as I like to call them "family and friends", are alcoholics.

@@physsnake only the richest and most advanced baltic state but ok

Larry Thorne: Served in the war.. in three sides. Went to fight in Vietnam, because WW2 east front was not enough fighting.

Nürnberg nicht Nuremberg😆

Damn

Shout, Lauri Törni's name A soldier of three armies knows the game Keeps their echo from the past Rise from beyond your grave Son of Finland and the Green Beret May you rest in peace at last Lauri Allan Törni

Bimbo Bimboo It’s Nuremberg in English...

To me, the truth (as I’ve come to see it after a few years of research) made me sick. I felt awful with the cognitive dissonance I experienced. I would have to walk away and only take it in small doses. We’ll probably never know the real truth / facts of it all, but I am comfortable in saying the “truth” as we’ve been told it, isn’t.

@Alien Alien It's terrifying but at least people are waking up

The scary thing is that because of the way our brains work, the less you can talk about something the more willingly you'll accept what others tell you. Orwell was ahead of his time.

I remember picking up some nice old books wrote by a British minister in the 30’s. Oh dear! Was someone wanting to build a war machine to take on a particular European country before the man with the little moustache was elected?

nothing is black and white, even guilt, or lack or it.

Indy: Is that a fact? Really, kinda hard to believe

@@Tecumseh4-k2z Its true after the war the Americans realized their potential they gave them a bargain specially the Nazi Engineers and Rocket scientist to work for them, They gave them American citizenship in exchange for their knowledge some of them work in aviation and later on they formed NASA, others did serve in the military since they're american citizen already. The Russian did the same thing too and that's the beginning of the Cold War.

I guess they were very anti communist. The most anti communist people seem to be those who lived under communism.

@@Tecumseh4-k2z your IQ is showing again

@@Tecumseh4-k2z The US military also recruited several Finnish officers who fled Communist persecution, at least one of whom also served briefly in the Waffen-SS. He eventually became an officer in the US Army Special Forces and fought in Vietnam.

Ehh still surrendered. 😂😂😂😂😂

@@justine1836 eh, the soviets were more brutal than americans so if i remember they focused most of their forces at the eastern front

Сс на медицинские эксперименты израсходованы были

@Paca Attack dont get what youre saying here

@Lex Bright Raven you do realize the soviets war crime were as severe as the nazis right? There are more records of the red armies war crimes that were never punished then the nazis, ever heard of the mass rape that happened AFTER the war of the civilians of Germany? Almost all girls in Germany were raped by the red army, ages from 8-80.

Yes, can certainly understand where you're coming from... limited options, go with the lesser of two evils.

Germany was protecting all of Europe from the bolsheviks, nothing strange to fight with them.

People in the west are very prone to ignorance and fear

@Arku Your grandfather fought in the Battle of Narva and the Battle of the Tannenberg Line, didn't he? That must have been two terrible battles.

As a Finn I am sorry to about the cases of giving Estonians to Soviets, but I assure you that we Finns had to give our own too (inkeriläiset/ingrians). A lot of them were sent to gulags, and today the place where they once lived (which is located between Estonia and St. Petersburg) is nowadays completely Russian. The price of freedom was truly horrible and we're not proud of the deportations, I hope you don't see us in a bad way.

I'm not gonna lie. Your comment made be snort-laugh.

that's very clever

Hahaha!

Nutz!

Hah! That's a good one!

Add this to 101 weird WW2 facts.

I saw the title and thought the very same thing "WHAAAA?????"

Andy c - had the same thought once I heard they were actually guarding the prisoners, but I could’ve sworn that I heard an American soldier had been in charge of guarding Goering. Still... this part of the history of the Nuremberg Trials I had never read about before.

This was the first I have ever heard of this. Wow!

@Andy c Android or Apple..? 😂

Must have been so weird for the guards

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🤣😂😅😂🤣

Yes

"I mean, we're wearing black uniforms with swastikas on the sleeves...again."

none of these replies has anything to do with the comment you made.. I suspect they have no idea who the Goodies were. RIP Tim :)

"We've got skulls on our hats, why skulls?"

"Yes, Friedrich. We are the goodies now." - Hans, the other SS member in 1946

wireless one I definitely wouldn’t have wagged school haha

When I was at school, our history lesson consisted of episodes of world at war and kiss Soviet ass...lefty teacher grrr

Well he is not bias as far I can see so he will no be a good teacher for allies countries lol

I'd much rather enroll in a college course taught by him.

Would the anthem play whenever he entered or left the room?

The History Channel.... Isn't.

History channel... Owned by Disney, that pretty much sums it up.

@@Snaakie83 Once upon a time, it was a real treat to watch the history channel, then...nothing but flashy, over-dramatized fluff with no substance.

@@tremedar the Grant miniseries was apparently good, but ancient aliens really destroyed the channel

@drew pedersen yeah like american pickers and pawn stars

Not something that would be covered in a regular curriculum, more of a interesting tidbit.

Indeed! I look forward to seeing a KZfaq email for Mark Felton Productions. Most of it is WWII, which for us of 80 years later is a horrific, yet interesting subject with so many stories to be explained, but Mark also throws in the odd curveball with Post-WWII tales and (IIRC) even something on the Titanic, which was rusting away at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean before Hitler tried to get into that Austrian art academy!

Tbf though Estonia is basically just Russia tbh the Soviets should have held onto them.

@anonymous opinions thank you for the kind words!

@BULL SCHEIST Thanks. There is a lot of controversy about those anti-communists though. Some of them, indeed, were ideological, but some also just criminals. But the history about them is terribly interesting (full of betrayal, heroism and barbarism) and almost everyone has a relative who fled to the forrests and put up a fight one way or the other. The last forest-brother (as we call them) August Sabbe died while escaping capture in 1978). But indeed, most of the resistance died out after the death of Stalin - people were pardoned if they put down their weapons etc.

@@luxembourgishempire2826 Yep, and Luxembourgh is basically just Belgium... or France... But yeah, your statement could not be farther from truth mate...

@@midakassi I don't know about Luxembourgh. I am from a country called Luxembourg and unlike Estonia we actually have history whereas you guys basically were just Russians influenced by Germans and Swedes. There! That's a summary of Estonian history.

На уроке истории в датской школе учитель провел тест-выборы. Описал трех кандидатов, не называя их имен, и попросил выбрать одного из них для руководства страной. Первый кандидат парализован ниже пояса, к тому же гипертоник. У него анемия и целый букет других неприятных заболеваний. Он врет, когда ему это нужно, и советуется в политических вопросах с астрологами. Изменяет супруге. Много курит и злоупотребляет Мартини. У второго кандидата ожирение. Он трижды проигрывал выборы. Страдал от сильной депрессии и перенес два инфаркта. И еще у него невыносимый характер. Он курит сигары без остановки и напивается каждую ночь перед сном - шампанское, коньяк, виски + две таблетки снотворного. Третий кандидат - герой войны, орденоносец. К женщинам относится с уважением. Не курит. Из алкоголя пьет только пиво, и то крайне редко. На импровизированных выборах единогласно победил третий кандидат - Адольф Гитлер. Ему проиграли Рузвельт с Черчиллем.

@@user-ys9kz8lf9f Most educated Russian 😂

@@user-ys9kz8lf9f ebani terrorussian-zachem fludish, tema serioznaja.zalko kommunistov ne sudili kak nyrenberge nazikov

Whether conscript or not, all Waffenn SS - especially in Eastern Europe - participated in the genocide of Jewish and Roma peoples, as well as persecuting homosexuals, anarchists, Socialists, etc. Walter was not a nice man.

I hope Walter is in hell cause all of Hitler's soldiers raped, killed, massacred, invaded..... Germans were so evil that they even tortured and massacred millions and millions of children.

yes my grandfather told me

...you wrong...higest decorated non Germans in the axis armies was latvian 19th panzer grenadiers...

@@freedom8946 Wrong...

Такое пишут украинцы, бельгийцы, французы и т.д. про тех кто убивал мирное население в России This is written by Ukrainians, Belgians, French, etc. about those who killed civilians in Russia

@@user-ys9kz8lf9f ti pra shto tut ?

Hilarious amirite, but then again Nuremberg trials were a kangoroo court were confessions were extracted by torture. Theres a reason a lot of former German soldiers had to take testosterone syringes for the rest of their life.

@@AyataHiragi can you give a source for the testosterone thing?

@@AyataHiragi thanks for the answer its an interesting topic.

@Germaine Jones Thank you! For this bold claim without any backing. What is this, kindergarden?

@@AyataHiragi thank you for your info... I have some more but KZfaq is like "Hebrew patrol" as all my comments get deleted

Who were the Americans anyway? People who had emigrated from Europe.

@Alien Alien if there are no Americans then what the hell do you call Native American Indians?

@@terrypresnell9100 we;re all from Africa, no one is indigenous to north America. the people you call Indians took it from someone else before it got taken from them.

@Alien Alien in that case, there are no such things as Asians, Europeans, Americans, Australians; we're all African. what brilliant logic.

@Alien Alien but there are many unifying features in America

Billions involved. The stories will outlast anyone’s lifetime of interest.

Yeah reading and watching what they want you to know.

And where is your knowledge retrieved if not from Books? I have read far more books of my choosing than any I have ever been assigned. All history is what someone wants you to know, even autobiographies, unless you were there yourself you have no choice but to trust but verify.

Почитай историю из советских книг

​@@user-bo8iy1zj7i Я прочитал одну, «Курская битва: спорные и забытые аспекты», Валерий Замулин, потрясающая, also I apologize if that comes off poorly google translate is awful

Why?

@@m.asquino7403 Well, to be quite honest, Sarge, I'd... rather be at home with the wife and kids.

Spam spam spam spam spam...

@@jussim.konttinen4981 Right, off you go then.

Seinfield 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I agree.

For real. History these days: dem da good guyz, dem da bad guys. Shame it's not taught this way.

I agree 100%. I had history teachers who loved history and tried to impart that to us. It's all in the presentation.

Gay

@@lrc9304 how

Why would you be surprised? Swedes them selfs had similar opportunities in the past, but turned em down. See Swedish extradiction of Baltic soldiers.

To say you're Swedish, your English is perfect, especially you using the word "flabbergasted" that's some high level English right there, well done

Hej jag är svensk född 👍

sweden pay roll is sending 2 regiment equipment to estonia, this is way to predict war

Estonians aren't Baltic people though.

Very interesting! Yes, there were lots of former nazi soldiers out there, in the years after the war, still in the business. One of them even killed Ernesto Guevara.

yes indeed , they had no choice , Frenches need soldiers for Indochina's war, either they enlisted to the Legion either they were fired . It is funny to say that Vietminh 's propaganda aimed at them and a few of them went to the Vietminh's side.

Read a book named devils guard, great read on the subject

@@cranedriver5467 Thanks for the tip, I downloaded it

​@@kabardino1337Is that true about the killer of ernesto guevara?

"My enemy's enemy is my friend."

For many, they faced that impossible dilemma of fighting for the Nazis or capitulating to the soviets. Like Finland, I don't think I can hold it against those who chose the Nazis over the soviets.

@@SteveandLizDonaldson I think you mean: The enemy of my enemy is my friend. What you said does not make much sense to me.

NeoSovrnson it means literally the same

@@NeoSovrnson Those both mean the same thing. "John's house" is the same as "The house of John"

Me too!

Yes, Mark do you know of any testimonials written by these troops?

My grandfather never immigrated. He stayed in Estonia and fought against the red menace as a forest brother.

Robert Klein why, honorable men fighting against a dishonorable menace? What isn’t there to tell.

@@IndianaGoy yes, it's a no win situation. If they'd fought for Communists, they'd have no relationship with the West for decades.

Masada1911 FiRsT cOmMeNt HaHa

@Masada1911: Gibberish!

Amazing how one pointless comment gets 1.3 k likes Modern society

@@properjob79 It's 1.4 now, just 16 min later...

like Patton said...hey it's nothing more than Democrats & Republicans here in the States...talking bout the political parties of Germany...now that caused a stink...but he was in the long run right.

@@smeggiamagarwine my father was guarding outside behind the cell.

Very interesting posts. How did the lethal Drug get to the second greatest monster in recent human history and save him his due desserts on the scaffold?

How is he now?

@@anartistnamedmatthew1849 he passed away last year at 95. He was the best person in the world. Thanks for asking.

I've always wondered how the leadership in countries like this don't see how awful their system of government is. I mean they must have friends and family

We were getting the message that you were occupied countries seized by communists and led by traitors during communist occupation along with the rest of Eastern Europe

I have a class mate that thinks Soviet rule was good, as they gained territory and nothing else

And that you fought with soviet soldiers on barricades in 1991, people dying on both sides. Not so peacefull as 1989 in the eastern block.

those of us who were paying attention remember very well that it was the Baltic states that brought down the Soviet Union. Congratulations and Well Done.

Yay Latvia!

Izlasot video nosaukumu, zinaju ka runās arī par latviešiem.😀

As an Estonian same here but that story was well known fact

Biju dzirdējis tikai par latviešu sargiem Nirnbergā, bet redz, ka arī igauņi bija

Pēc karoga iekš avatara un piesekotajiem kanāliem nepateiksi, ka esi latvietis...

Thanks, will do!

I'd definitely relate, tho not all will see it that way

The issue probably was that after WW2 they recognized the German Military and Paramilitary forces as a well organized and reliable force that could be reporpoused unlike Saddam Military of the early 2000 that was, to put it in raw terms, a mess. They concluded it was probably better to kick the house down and rebuild it back up. Not saying the results were that good but that's a whole other story.

Yup, It was dumb to disband the Iraqi Army when they there are the only real means to preserve the rule of law in Iraq. Recall that shortly after the Iraqi Army was disbanded, everything got looted & the rise of insurgents.

@Oskar Dirlewanger The us already left Iraq once and is practically gone now. Nonsense. The Us only went back in because of ISIS and spent blood and capital to destroy them. The Iraq war was one of the biggest blunders in US history, they want that whole thing behind them as fast as possible. Plus they have actual Communists to deal with now

@Oskar Dirlewanger Iraq and Syria are nothing more than just provinces of Iran. Tell me, did an Iranian soldier ever fire a bullet against Israel? The answer is no, only Arab proxies did, and they were only skirmishes, nothing more. Both Iran and Israel occupy Arab lands. Both of them are actively killing Arabs. Both share a strong history of friendship. The war between Iran and Israel has been nothing but words, they will never truly hurt each other.

big brain son

but if he wants to learn everything he's gotta watch ww2 documantaries and these are also good

@@The_last_prime They are biased, with speech framing, at least in germany.

Here in the U.S. documentaries are a mixed bag. I've seen the "Germany was drivin by hatred and bigotry and were all Nazis" documentaries but also really balanced and more honest ones that explain why so many eastern europeans sided with germany against the soviets and how most Germans were not ideological Nazis. Strangely the History Channel has some of the more realistic balanced ones which I find sort of strange because it's a main stream media channel.

@@k-man8284 Everyone ignore this unhappy troll and dont respond to him.

A Large number of Former SS soldiers joined the French foreign Legion too -fighting in Indo China - VIETNAM , Also the famous Rocket scientist - aerospace engineer Wernher v Braun was in the SS too .

You learned about WW2 in high school?

@Graf von Losinj Well thats the nature of modern economics, innit?

There's only so much material you can include in High School history classes. While I won't deny US history education sucks in many places, there are other things to prioritize over learning trivia like this, as fascinating as it is.

@@randomlyentertaining8287 not any more..... We got industrial revolution, foundation of trade unions and the labour party and the Russian revolution... Yes, our history teacher was a rabid communist and we all failed history due to him missing out most of the real curriculum....

Eh, you’re right and you’re wrong.

If it was the second one less people would click because they would just think americans or other alied soldiers would guard it

Gledas istoriju ?

Natalija Djokic I agree. It briefly and accurately tells us what the topic is, respecting the viewer to lets us decide if we want to watch it, instead of drawing us in (or trying) with clickbait.

KZfaqrish alternative: "YoU wOn'T bElIeVe WhO guarded the Nuremberg trials!!! OUTRAGEOUS!!" 🙃

@sym That, Sir was crude and uncalled for.

@@BELCAN57 thats reality

@@onetokatman7293 If you haven't been in combat, you know nothing of that reality.

@@onetokatman7293 No it's not

Before there is more people come here and replies. I want to say that it ok to be anti-war but it not ok to be anti-soldier.

He said, "Nein", which is German for "no". However, apparently the word at the time at WW2 aftermath was used as a label for Nazis' who denied being Nazis'. The term coming from the frequency with which Hitler used the term.

@@jdove6883 Interesting.

es wäre das Wort niemand

Michael Grossmann was wäre niemand? Die erwartete Antwort war „nicht schuldig“

Maybe, in his complicated case, they gave him nine alternative ways to plead, and asked him which one he chose. ;)

That's some High quality dad here

When I played Mark's videos my dad noticed the intro music and asked the same.

You shouldn't be dead? Cyanide is not very healthy and tasty.

Not really. It would make sense to shift Japanese americans to european duties to avoid conflicted loyalties and the same with german americans.

Those Japanese Americans who were in US military service. While their own families were kept in internment camps themselves.

The most decorated American unit in the European theater was comprised of Japanese Americans, just to throw even more irony into the mix.

@@matthewnunya8483 it was also used as a type of psychological warfare by making it seem that their ally was defeated and and would affect the German war effort . there was also the 442nd infantry regiment composed of nearly entirely 2nd generation Japanse-American citizens which fought through Italy.

allalone go for broke!

Absolutely. Note they were lightly armed. Not really equipped for a combat role. They are mentioned in several texts and seemed to have been well thought of. Important to note they had little contact, by design, with hard core USA combat units.

@@mikeromadin8744 Because many other countries had camps like this (for example laogai in China) in English we say gulag when we refer specifically to the Soviet ones

y'Think? :-/

My mother was born in Tallinn, Estonia January 26, 1926. Her father was a White Russian that served in the Czarist government civil service. After 1917 he fled with his wife to Estonia knowing full well that his name was surly on a list. While in Estonia he lectured in the Universities on Natural Sciences. There is a display of his work in the Natural Science Museum, (Paul Wasmuth). Then the Russians invaded Estonia and he with his wife and two daughters fled to Germany. They were called Baltic Germans and welcomed into Germany. Mom continued her education until she and her classmates were taken to a munition’s factory because all the men were put in uniform. One day her supervisor told his section that the Russians were three days from the border and to head West. She and her girlfriend found a horse and buggy and fled to a frame in Bavaria. The farmer found them hiding in his barn but took them in and hide them from the retreating German Army. After the end of the war she was in a DP Camp in Stuttgart. The US Army wanted to get the German economy moving and hired Germans with skills. My mother spoke four languages fluently to include Russian. She was hired by the Army as an interpreter and secretary. Her desk was just outside of my dad’s office, he was serving in the Occupation. As the story goes here I am, Sep 14, 1948. Mom is now 94 and in perfect health.

Mu onu tegi ennast 2 aastat vanemaks ja läks 16 aastaselt 1943 20. diviisi. Polnud ka nats. Jäi sõtta.

@@Marka2401 Fantastic story! Glad your parents made it through the war together and did well for themselves.

So why did they kill the Jews then?

@@nikolaykrotov8673 he didn’t.

Sadly its the other way around.

Moving into your neighborhood

@@Maylolkoigood and evil are actually concepts. I’m pretty sure both sides thought the other was evil.

@@idonotcarekek That's the only way to get the sides to shoot eachother. Demonize the enemy.

Your choice is fighting with Germany, who started WW2, to try and get your homeland out of Soviet hands. Or aid the Soviets, who forcefully took over your homeland. It was a very shitty time. Just ask the Finns.

So pleased HG’s cat was taken care of, amidst all of this.

@@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist it wasn’t the cat’s fault whatsoever.

@@deoglemnaco7025 very true :)

@@deoglemnaco7025 (X) Doubt

@@TheMasterTelevision that’s cute how you did the (x) thing. Ha ha ha I’m going to give you your first ‘like’ on that comment. You got your funny hat on today !!

He was going to have ADMs Nimitz and King subpoenaed to comment on USN policies and procedures for rescuing Japanese merchantmen after American subs torpedoed THEM. The chief prosecutor, Supreme Court Justice Jackson, dropped the charge after realizing the US Navy would proverbially have egg on its face.

Its true the charge was dropped when news of the US Sub policy surfaced. Doenitz got ten years I believe, as head of the Kreigsmarine. He was a fervent Nazi. He accepted the position as Nazi Germany head of state on April 30, and did not surrender immediately, nor collapse the German government to the allied powers. He got away lightly, and he is lucky that the Russians did not demand his execution

@@glennpickard2239 Well other than disrupting western shipping to Murmansk the Kriegsmarine didn't really create a grudge with the Soviets. In contrast the Wehrmacht were despised by them for obvious reasons...

@@glennpickard2239 Oh, but they DID want him sentenced to death. The other judges on the tribunal felt that unreasonable. Donitz, along with most other German functionaries, along with HIMMLER, had unrealistic expectations that they'd be heading a post-war German government, albeit under Allied occupation and supervision. When the Flensburg government was dissolved and its members arrested on May 23, 1945 (also when Himmler either committed suicide or was summarily executed, accounts differ), there were still a few diehard holdouts, mostly in the Soviet sector, and the post-war "Reconstruction" of Germany hadn't been finalized by the Allied powers. That would be settled later in July, 1945, at Potsdam. As to whether Donitz got away "lightly", I would disagree. He was the head of the Kriegsmarine, and to the extent that the Germany Navy under his command committed crimes against humanity and/or war crimes, he'd certainly bear "Command" repsonsiblity (aka the "Yamashita principle, of course, Gen. Yamashita was hanged as a war criminal in Manila in 1946). There is little evidence that the German Navy conducted operations any different than did the Royal Navy or the USN, and certainly not any worse than what the Soviet Navy did. I never saw any call for the commander of the Soviet submarine S-13, Kaptain "3rd Rank" (equivalent to a USN LCDR), Alexander Mariinseko, nor the C-in-C of the Soviet Baltic Fleet, nor the head of the Soviet Navy, to be tried for the sinkings of the Wilhelm Gustloff or the Von Stueben, taking over 10,000 civilian lives, in Jan and Feb of 1945, respectively, to be tried as "war criminals". War crimes trials are the hypocrisy of the victors and their sense of "justice", which shouldn't even be needed, as what burden is upon the victor in wartime to be "just" at all?

It's not uncommon for Latvians to speak several languages as we are a small nation and Latvian is only really spoken in Latvia. That's very impressive list of languages though.

What happened to your grandfather after the war ended? Had he managed to retreat to the American / English occupation zone or had he been taken prisoner of war by the Russians?

@Gabriel Kruize Because of the variety of languages he spoke, some Wehrmacht boys "elected" him to represent them. He walked ahead of them, all of them having discarded their uniforms, and depending upon whom he met, he used the "appropriate" language and either claimed to be Eastern workers returning home, German, or whatever seemed to fit the moment. After the German left him, my grandfather alternatively walked and rode a bicycle back to Latvia. He would often pick up cigarette butts and roll himself a smoke once he accumulated enough tobacco. My family had been rather well to do in Latvia pre-war; my Great Grandfather was an importer/exporter, landowner and as such he was good friends with Latvia's politicos at the time. After the war, however, as all Latvians suffered, our lands and assets were seized by the Soviets (we got much of it back in the 90's, and my father visits Latvia annually) and the family was "displaced" and worked and stayed with friends until emigrating to America in the 50's. My father, aunt, grandfather, grandmother (who had been a concert pianist pre-war and during the war for the Germans) as well as my grandfather's mother and my grandmother's father (who served in the Czar's guard, ironically...my grandfather was a boy and observed some of the fires of the Soviet Revolution.) They entered America through Boston...my grandfather (who had been an accountant and inherited the family business) worked in an aluminum factory for a time. He was a brilliant and kind man but not overly ambitious. My grandmother (the family Matron) made him get a job in accounting in NYC where he retired in his 70's. He died in 1996 at the age of 90. A lot of rambling...but that's my family history.

@William Stuart Your great grandfather - as well as his other relatives - must have been a lucky one, not already being deported by the NKVD to Siberia in 1941, during the first Soviet occupation of Latvia, because of his position as a landowner in a wealthy family - the Soviets considered wealthy people - rich farmers, landowners, businessmen, politicians, clergy and intellectuals - as bourgeoise, kulaks or 'state enemies'. Besides, from which part of Latvia did your great grandfather came from, did he live in the countryside or the city (Riga, Daugavpils, Liepaja etc?) After all, hopefully your family survived this evil part of the history and continued to live a joyful life.

@@williamstuart368 "...until emigrating to America in the 50's..." The entire family? Just like that, "emigrating?" Who the hell did they backstb and betray to be let through the Iron Curtain? Nobody just "emigrated" from the USSR.

I always thought those were Americans or British lads guarding the Nazis...

why they cant fight the muslims now?

Me 2...that is why Mark’s videos are so good!

look up Articles 19 and 21. basically says that no forensic evidence shall supersede any testimony...... Yup.

TokenBlackGuy so did I... You learn something new every day.

Victor, our next door neighbor in Van Nuys, CA, 1983-89, had fled Latvia in 1940 ahead of invading Soviet troops and made his way to Peru. There he met and married his wife, Dora. In 1942 they emigrated to the USA and Victor volunteered to serve in the American army. He landed in Normandy in 1944, fought his way across Western Europe, and was there when Nazi Germany surrendered in 1945. After the war, he returned to the States, became an aeronautical engineer specializing in liquid-fueled rocket engines, and ultimately worked on the Apollo Saturn 5 and Space Shuttle programs. Victor's brother chose to remain in Latvia and wound up being conscripted into the Soviet Army. His unit retreated to Russia when the German's occupied Latvia in 1941. The tide of battle would eventually turn: Victor's brother and his Russian comrades would make Latvia and Poland "free" for Communism and occupy eastern zone of Germany per the Allied Nation's Yalta Agreement. Before the war, Victor and his brother had been very close. Circumstances during WWII made sending and receiving letters understandably difficult. But, during the ensuing Cold War years, and especially given Victor's sensitive position in the US Space Program, communication became impossible. We left California in the summer of 1989, before the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Soviet Union dissolved, and the Baltic Republics were finally able to democratically declare their independence from Russia and the Communist Bloc. I wish I knew whether Victor and his brother were able to track one another down and reconnect. I'd like to think their story had a happy ending.

@@ronforeman2556 wow, heck of a story! thanks for sharing

why not. Great soldiers and most importantly, anti redscum

Go read serious history. The Latvians were illegally conscripted by Germans at the threat of reprisal, Russia did likewise (so bother was fighting brother), only fought against Russians all the way back to Berlin.

@@ronforeman2556 true story must be likr this

I would say this story is relatively well known in Estonia though.

TheLaualamp what happened when he was caught?

@@temsedgwick9494 prolly gulag. Heres a video on this topic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8hoZbuTlqmcn6c.html

Kui rohkem tahad teada siis vaata doki erri arhiivist: Mehed unustatud armeest/ Men from the forgotten army.

@@eksiarvamus Same in Latvia.

Me too

Or the allies. Bizarre to say the least that they would even consider this. I wonder if Eisenhower knew about this?

@@MarkFeltonProductions They were probably actively recruiting using any family as leverage. They did that regularly with Ukrainians.

@Alien Alien According to Joseph Stalin the Russian soldiers only gave the women a peck on the cheek.

The Soviets did but the Western Allies recognized these soldiers as citizens of their Baltic Republics not the Soviet Union. The Embassies of these Republics existed throughout the Cold War.

His son became the US ambassador to Russia.

Some were, some weren't. I do not feel comfortable with discounting the extreme nationalist and anti-Semitic elements that our forces had - e.g. Araja Kommando.

i always understood the Estonians and the rest of baltikum to be like Finland. Not nazi, but axis by default because of the Soviet Union. I tink you would find that Norway supplied more soldiers to Finland and the axis cause than to the allied cause because of ant-i communism.

Same as with the majority of the 13th SS Handžar Division made up mostly of local ethnic Bosniaks from Eastern Bosnia, who were being killed by the thousands, by Chetniks(Serbian fascist ultranationalist movement that wanted Greater Serbia on what is today, Bosnia, Montenegro and the majority of Croatia). Also, you would get a gun to properly defend yourself, which couldn't be said about the other factions. During training some soldiers(of that division) raised a mutiny in a small Mediterranean French town(I forgot the name) in 1942(due to not being to fond of Nazis and their ideology), it became the only free town in Europe(excluding Russian towns near Moscow) for the few days the mutiny endured. The local Frenchmen still celebrate that day. The Germans planned the division to stay in France and fight elsewhere if needed, but due to the soldiers being unhappy about leaving their families unprotected in Bosnia and due to fear of another mutiny, the Germans sent them to suppress the guerillas in Bosnia.(both Chetniks and Partisans) After about a year in the field, most of those soldiers defected to Tito's Partisans, a small part left with the Germans for Hungary(by that time(late 1944) the majority of personel was Hungarian). Some defected even sooner like the grandfather of a guy I know in 1943. All in all, they were in a very similar situation like the people from the Baltics.(not to say that they were the good guys, but not your regular SS either)

@@nielscarp Good for them

@@perisdahl569 Depends on if you mean supplied as in army personnel, or if you include resistance fighters as well. I'm not really sure of the numbers, but I do believe they would've had more fighting for the Allies if you include resistance fighters as well

or join the CIA ...

Oh! What a shame!!

Many Germans were forced into the French Army, to serve in Indochina, after WW2, because so many Frenchmen refused to serve there. The Germans were threatened with being handed over to the Russians.

There was a youtube video about a soldier who just didn't know when to quit. He fought for the Germans in ww2. When that ended, he wound up fighting for France. When they ended his tenure, he finally came to the US and fought in Vietnam. Damn, that's a long career. I wish I could remember his name...

@@largol33t1 Sounds bit like Larry Thorne, but he went straight to USA and did some special forces stuff.

Unfortunately Mark Felton reports candidly on the nuances and reality of history, not something any modern school likes to admit exists

Mark Felton does tend to be an anglo-file. Nothing wrong with that. It's still better than white guilt.

@@psilvakimo So he specializes in doing British people's nails? Or maybe he specializes in sorting and storing British documents? Perhaps you meant anglophile? ;)

@@Jagabot 🤣

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@J Thorsson Rankine...

There was no choosing, at least for baltic states. Russians or Germans was just going to homes and either you join or get bullet in the head....

@@ExternalHDD-Reviews Thank you for sharing and the information. Best regards.

@Thomas Wilson As a matter of fact, all butchers have their hands stained by blood. However, I don't remember that Stalin have massacred on racial supremacy grounds. Sill Butchery is the work of Butchers, and Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc., are burning in hell.

@@shivamurti6481 today’s leftists only bash nazis but turn a blind eye to soviet atrocities because either they are communists themselves or they believe that their enemy’s enemy is (was) their friend.

@@philsman3694 Today, western intelligentsias are mainly composed of leftist minded people who impose in many of our countries a political correctness affecting our freedom of speech and the way we can access to history and news. That is the way I think and the reason why I thumbed up your post Phil. Best regards.

Glad you like them!

Tonight a German policeman yelled at a young German man that since he is unvaccinated he is no longer human, and is lower than a dog. The citizen asked for his unit commander and the yelling man was the commander. The other police were standing behind him as he said the unvaccinated should all be killed immediately. So those times you long for Ammar may be close again.

@@joywebster2678 I think you are right. This time they will force a digital chip on hand or forehead....no one can buy or sell without it

Yup, i think we don't recognize their sacrifice enough here in Finland

Во время они закончили воевать с Россией

@@user-bo8iy1zj7i Mida sa selle all mõtled?

@@eksiarvamus mitä tuli sodasta 44 vuoden aikana

Snoofy • Estland fuer die Estlaender! 👍🤗

I have heard that when the Baltic people’s were facing each other on the battlefield, they were very reluctant to shoot at one another.

@@RedClover1987 There were occasions where units had to be shuffled around because they would refuse to fight each other, yes. But those were rare. Both sides usually were too smart to risk any such situation.

Not only Estonians or Lithuanians i guess people from all eastern Europe got caught in that situation.

т.е. нацистская Германия освободила эстонцев и эстонцы воевали добровольно на стороне нацистской Германии?

If I remember right, his bad axx exploits couldn't be rivaled by a Hollywood script.

@Cheryl Graham You are thinking of Skorzeny.

@@drgwhatsthetruth3783 The good General makes "Lawrence of Arabia" look like a cub scout....

@Brian Haney You're crazy, he tied up 5 different armies in East Africa during WWI. ...and living off the land while doing so...greatly respected leader by German and African troops alike....

Don't ya realise he only makes ww2?

Ya... he needs his own documentary lol. I wonder if he found that helmet? Or was he just lucky

My pleasure!

@Oskar Dirlewanger Not to forget fictional stories about the Vikings.

Hey I almost got a degree in Alien history from southwest central state university.

He has mastered the skill of googling and finding low quality footage, no doubt

Well, aliens are at least a bit more interesting than individuals living in swamps, running pawn shops and finding antiques in people's junk sheds.

Quite true. The 45th was a National Guard outfit from the southwest which used the swastika because it was a native American symbol. However, when the Nazis came to power and began rampaging throughout Europe, the division changed its insignia even before the US entered the war. Since Mark said the guard force was the only 'allied' unit to use the swastika he was correct, since the 45th quit using the swastika before the US officially became a part of the 'allied' forces. The 45th Infantry Division Museum in Oklahoma City has a display regarding their use of the swastika prior to the war.

@@tomjustis7237 semantics but I gotcha

@@tomjustis7237 Interesting. The 45th Division Thunderbird insignia is quite nice.

Mr Dirigible. You beat me to it. I was going to post, but checked to see if it was already posted.

Yup they were headquartered here in Oklahoma, my great grandfather was in the 45th Thunderbird Division after they activated the National Guard

The belief was that the Soviets got to have a guard detail at Nuremburg for so long as Hess was a prisoner there and so insisted that a life sentence meant a life sentence.

Sounds reasonable to me. I mean sending to Gulag is a very merciful, taking into account what ss have done to USSR

@@Gedd84 Getting shot by a fire squad is more merciful than being sent to a Gulag.

Temujin in Gulag a person can make suicide anytime. Life is precious, nobody wants to die. And, after all, many prisoners eventually returned to their home

@@Gedd84 never mind taking into account what the USSR did to Germany.

@@TemujinTheKhan Not really. Gulag is simply a labor camp. My great grandfather spent 10 years there. A lot of German POWs actually died on the way to the Gulags because they suffered from malnutrition and diseases, especially those that were captured at Stalingrad. The Soviet soldiers escorting them barely had any food for themselves and they had to share it with the German prisoners. Anyway, people always talk about the thousands of German POWs who never returned home, nobody remembers that 10 times more Soviet prisoners died while in German custody however.