Before the Second Dream, Tenno didn't really knew they were just "controlling" Warframes. That's why Valkyr endured tortures by Corpus, instead of just cutting transference. And in The Second Dream, when you beat the Stalker, the Tenno says "I'm confused... I thought I was...", meaning the Tenno thought they were the Warframes themselves, not just controlling them.

For the Leverian, in universe it's basically like a museum guided tour. And we must remember besides high ranking orokin, no one else really knew about the tenno's existence really. Especially regular citizens in that case. I've always seen leverian as stories of certain tenno and their warframes, from an archaeological point of view. They don't have all the information but can make plenty of educated guesses to fill in the blanks.

I'd go so far as to argue this has been the best quest since The Sacrifice. And that felt like ages ago

Ballas could be telling the truth as he sees it: autonomous frames that protect innocent people or fail to follow orders would be failures to him. Rogues frames as well. This could explain some of the frame related quests like chroma and limbo

1 is stated by parvos that protea died and on the process a perfect copy was created wich was the specter also the protea specter description says that parvos heavily modified her so if there was a tenno it connection to the warframe was cut when protea died but the could imitate or learn with the time they were on that place 2 part of the process of converting someone to a warframe destroy affect they're brain turning into mindless no memory or rational thoughts empty like a vessel and acting on instinct except for umbra as he was the closest to ever get to preserve a semblance of self

The case about people not knowing about the Tenno is possible. If you remember in second dream, Alad V was there and even he didn’t know that the warframes were controlled by the Tenno.

i have always believed that there are tenno in all the frames . and it is not out of the question that (in terms of the acolites) they built the frames a little off from the blueprint. after all, the non prime frames are just our closest replica of the blueprint based on current resources.the gara we see was not the gara that defeated the eidolon but what we can replicate right now. same with all other non primed frames.

Parvos says that protea is a Spector if herself so I assumed she did originally have a Tenno operating her but when she had to trap them in the thing it kinda yeeted the operator out and the warframe was set to just maintain the void and protect parvos or something like that. And for the leverian warframe I don’t think knowledge of the Tenno existing was available beyond the orokin directly dealing with them, and more recently the quills and SU, as even the stalker who was around while the Tenno were still working with the orokin and has been hunting and trying to kill them ever since didn’t know about operators untill hunhow told him

Something just occurred to me: DeSiege, are you crafting your theories upon the assumption that the player, the operator, is the single only active Tenno in the system after Rell is gone? Because I am of the presumption that it is established that there are multiple Tenno in the system, making it lore-friendly that all of our characters exist in the actual world/system at the same time, especially with the events that require all of us to band together, and with the story behind Valkyr, where the Tenno as a community had to decide whether to save the group of Tenno Alad was keeping as he was deconstructing and stripping Valkyr. Hence, why I don't think it's surprising that the Leverian warframes were historically active, because other Tenno were actively using their warframes at the time of the recorded events, especially since it seems that gor a long time, Tenno operators were kept a secret from the general populace. I believe the same with Protea; she was a warframe gift, but it could be that the corpus leader who recieved her also didn't know that Tenno and warframes are 2 separate entities, and the same goes for a lot of the population of the system in the current timeline.

I was honestly surprised when Granum said that corpus was not how he wanted it to end up.

You're one of my favorite Warframe KZfaqrs. I can feel the passion oozing out of your theories and love for this story. I loved Deadlock, but IMO, The Sacrifice is DE at their best. Not to mention just gaming in general at its best.

I mean, a little piece of content that had me unreasonably excited were little cutscenes before fighting ropalolyst and during boarding murex (don't think the latter made it into the game and was only shown on devstream), because I'm pretty sure they are the first ones, that show not just four frames dropping into mission and glancing around, but each frame behaving differently, alluding to the fact they are all different, all exist in the same universe and all have a different tenno piloting them. I even made a bizzare theory in a dream, that it proves raids are coming back, however I forgot it. As for leverian, I think it just portrays warframes as seen from the outsider's perspective: cool dudes in sick metal armour carrying out orders of golden empire. After all, that's what an actual outsider - say, a knew player - would think. I don't know, if it's available to players from the moment they start the game, but if it is, then it's also a way to avoid spoilers. Also, I have a theory about Protea: is she in fact a warframe? Yeah, she is capable of fighting, but not quite in the same way, as Excalibur, or Vauban, or even Trinity; usually warframes are shown to interact with the battlefield personally more or less: Ex pulls a literall sword out of himself and charges into battle with it, Vauban creates a mfing orbital strike by his sheer will, Trin processes the damage she recieves from outside and transforms it into shocking impulses, however Protea doesn't really fight herself, she kust drops her turrets and dispensers, but her base doesn't actually change, she just loses parts of her equipment. In other words, it seems to me, like the equipment on Protea is definitely part of a warframe, but she herself might be - or might have been before we rebuilt her - just a walking battery to charge this fully automatic equipment, and I'm not sure, whether she would need a tenno to pilot her. After all, greedy Orokin giving greedy Parvas a fully operational warmachine simply out of the kindness of their hearts seems strange to me, however givin him something inferior, a drone with cephalite-fried brain, appearing to be the real deal with the equipment of a real warframe - now that's a scheme I would wanna see

The protea that parvos has is implied by the quest to actually be a spectre he made from the warframe assult team sent to stop him at his research outpost. It was corpus belief and doctrine that protea was gifted to him by the orokin, but that wasn't the truth of it.

I always thought that Ballas called Warframes failures because as the sentient, the warframes also end up turning on them... Also I always think about other tennos as npc, there has to be at least a tenno that for one reason or another didn't went to sleep after the war or some that live in hiding; after all they are children... is not that hard to imagine a scare tenno just running away. Sorry for the potato English :P

First off. Love you and love your lore videos. Hope you are having a safe and relaxing time. Second. I still play Warframe to this day. I started out when Chroma Prime just got released. And as for the Deadlock Quest. Loved it. I loved the commentary. I do like Parvos and hope to see him more in the future. But just like you. I did notice the questions that came with this quest that mentioned in this video. I hope they address this in the future. I love side story quests like these. And the main story quests too. And I hope they give us a solid link to answer our questions in the future soon.

Love this quest and with the recent patches Portea is a lot of fun, she's become My new main.

You give some pretty awesome insight on the lore, listening to your take really pieces it all together. Don't stop your videos rock 👍👍

Sir, you are the Morgan freeman of warframe. Please never stop.i love your work

I always liked/hated the Corpus but this quest has cemented which faction I'd like to work with and face against anytime. They're ingenious and ridiculously wealthy(greedy). The Protea Protocol ost is also the reason why Corpus is supreme. Space, aliens, war, sci fi, and corporate espionage.

Very good video and an rly interesting topic. Climbing my latter up to mr15 and played almost all story quests. I'm so addicted to the game and the lore. Thanks for you're work ❤️👍🏿

Your narrating is amazing, and so is ur voice! Keep it up!!!

Keep up the good work dude!

What we know and can assume so far is this: Defense cryopods are basically just surrogate bodies for Lotus/The Tenno to infect and then fuse with the parts we build from the blueprints recovered in missions and quests to create our warframes. Warframes are not suits of armor,in fact, they are merely cyborgs made out of infested flesh and mechanical parts as evidenced by Alad's dialogue during the second dream when he mentions his warframe dissections, confirming there is nothing or rather no one inside them. Without a Tenno, an active warframe is mindless and sticks to its precepts of combat, we can see this in the case of Chroma, Umbra, Protea and basically all specter frames,the only difference with specters being controlled by AI instead of a Tenno. Tenno have forgotten their true form and only remember it after the second dream where we remember our training house, in the war within, teshin guides us through another dream sequence and helps us unlock more of our powers which then get more refined thanks to the quills. As for leverian frames, I think they are just the mechanicals of the frame aka not fused with the helminth cyst and thus are just mere "fossils".

The audio in this video was MUCH better than in previous videos, and although it was still quieter than the rest of my content at large, it was all equalized to near perfection. I'm proud of you for the work you've done and hope you continue doing what you do best. Thank you so very much for creating this content for us, and I hope you know how much it means to have you and your content in the world. Sho-lah, surah!

when it comes to Leverian those are stroies of times long past before the fall of the Orokin an in some cases During the fall, when us as tenno still had our memories before we entered the second dream.

I really like how he starts his video off with the entire mission being shown as literal "background" footage as his codex/market, and his frame showing up in front as he says "hey yall, siege here" *chef's kiss* perfection

My explanation: the leverians and the deadlock protocol are accessible before the second dream so they simply don’t bring up the Tenno controlling the frames as too not spoil the surprise.

I was about to go after you when u showed in my feed. Just finished getting all Kurias and that brought an interesting knowledge of the Twin Queens story. I don’t remember if u had covered this... if you did sorry. If u didn’t... I would love to see your take on it with a video. Also the leverians bring a lot to the table. Together with the secret messages from parvus Granum.

I love the fact that this guy actually reply’s on his viewers comments

I think Protea was supposed to be a specter in the quest, whatever that means exactly.

I never really got the impression that the frames featured in the Luverian were Tenno-less frames. I believe they are just examples of particular frames and their unspoken tenno, who achieved very particular feats that earned them a legendary status. That status then became associated with the model of frame as a whole. Like how when we think of the Fokker Tri-Plane we think "Red Baron" and vice versa. As for Protea's (and her Tenno's death), if you read the Mirage Codex Entry, and do the Quest, the Lotus speaks of how she almost forced herself to forget the literal-actual-death of that Mirage's Tenno due to the Sentients destroying her Oro. Same goes for the loss of (of a particular/perhaps the original) Limbo and their Tenno because the way in which the frame "died" was far from conventional. Think of that Bruce Wilis move 'Surrogates'. Normally a frame's destruction won't kill it's Tenno. Thats the idea, the Tenno can be re awoken in a new frame body, with their 'death' ret-conned out of their conscious mind, but retain the subconscious knowledge they gained from the experience to do better next time. After all, the Tenno thought they WERE the frames, so memory and perception manipulation is definitely possible by way of the Second Dream. They could wake up after a "death" thinking they had been salvaged and repaired, but were actually loaded into a whole new, identical, warframe body.

I really enjoyed this quest. I wish DE would do more of them. When they do storytelling it is captivating, but I want more of it

I honestly cannot wait for the duviri paradox it might be pushed back to 2021 and I understand it must be a large quest and we never know it could be the largest quest ever, I could be wrong, as of so Warframe has been extremely good, DE is always keeping us entertained and I hope they dont stop, i hope they keep us entertained with brand new quests, as I replayed a lot of the quests loving the good times and memories, I started to play Umbra more and I hope they come out with many other quests and I hope the next quest will keep us entertained from like the duviri paradox or it might be the duviri paradox I just hope they dont stop and Yeah, they have been amazing, you are a good KZfaqr and you deserve more subscribers, and with this virus going around and a new one coming out I hope all of you a good year.

I don't think they allude to the tenn o because they don't wanna spoil tsd for new players.

The erra quest gave some insight on the number of tennos. At first i tought the number was a few tenno but in the erra quest it seems to be hunderds of tenno on lua.

One of the things that maybe that can help DE it's that not every quest should be just for a warframe or a new weapons, I would totally play a quest to know more about a lot of thing of the lore that are just not there

Well in the paradox trailer we see the fact that there are some time alterations involved so maybe the deadlock protocol was building a base for the plot.

Past the quest, you can use Granum Crowns to unlock the Codex entries with spoken dialogue of Parvos' past; the way he puts it and weaves these 'parables' within astounded me. Left me...envious.

I would love for it to be some quest types where you do objectives with other tennos in the sense as npcs, like giving them some certain personality, ex for a quest would be you and gauss trying to find the capsule where its tenno is, like having them become self aware that they arent the frames themselves by seeing other tennos, i hope what i wrote is understandable

I can't wait for your Nightwave Glassmaker episode 3 theory

I fell for Warframe because of the quests(I started when orb valid was released) I keep playing, hoping for more but as time goes on that feeling fades. I hope the get a move in and we get more than drip fed these quests. I've made 3 new accounts just to play through and have some of that initial experience again.

in the quest parvos explains that he killed some orokin sent warframes that were sent to his lab , in which he explodes it withe the spectra particle somthing about fire , fusion and void. This maybe could be hinting to the broken frame concept

Siege: something ain't adding up me: here goes another headache

YAY A KZfaqR THATS A REVENANT MAIN LIKE ME!!! (Edit): Insta subbed to the channel

I think not all warframes were once soldiers, just the first prototypes. As we know, the first prototypes got feral (like umbra) and maybe later on they were able to manufacture frames only using the helminth. I mean, it's kind of impractical to have two people operating the same thing, specially when you consider it's mass production. Another thing that may prove that is the way we manufacture warframes in our forge: It's very likely that the helminth in the orbiter is responsible for building the organic parts of the frames (it even calls us masters when we have a frame, maybe because we command them to craft frames?) Anyway, I feel like that would make more sense.

I agree with u DsIEGE one thing that warframe does supper well are quests not to mention songs

Chains of harrow. The only other tenno we meet. Perhaps not all of the tenno awoke.

The Sacrifice was a sad but well written quest. It really made you feel for Umbra. I don't use that frame often but I feel more of an attachment to that one than any of the others.

Here is what I think is going on. First all if not most original frames were once people as revealed in The Sacrafice and while they were reduced to animalistic intelligence with no memories of who they were and were in pain from all the crap they went through. But partnering with the Tenno I think they evolved in a way. They grew beyond their animalistic instincts and some of them regained their sentience. These evolved frames are like Umbra. They can operate on their own and have free will. Examples include the Gara who protected Cetus and fell in love with the Unam. ( Which would be gross any other way not because lesbian love story because it would involve a CHILD) The Inaros who protected the Sand people on Mars. The Grendel who according to Leverian was active after the collapse of the Orokin empire when the Tenno went into cryo. And last Protea. It is subtly applied that Parvos had feelings for which like the Gara example would be ew if it was any other way. Second all new warframes (or at least the ones we interact with) constructed instead of converted. When we make a new frame we don't go kidnaping some pore Grineer or Corpus. We find blueprints, we find resources, we build the chassis; systems; and nuero-optics one at a time and then put it all together. Quite a different process then what the Orokin used? Do you really think the "bleeding heart" Tenno would agree to repeating these "experiments". I think Lotus and her children worked to find alternative methods. In the Helminth room on the orbiter there is a Warframe sized pod in the back. I think we build the other stuff in the old foundry and Helminth puts the thing together while providing parts of himself for the bio part of the bio-mechanical. Or he uses the fish. I don't know but point is our new frames are blank slates which leads to why our amnesic characters believe we are the frames until the second dream at least. Third, to most of the Origin system, Tenno are one and the same. The only ones who know the true difference are Lotus, the Tenno post second dream, any surviving Orokin, and the syndicates/ colonies we interact on a daily bases like Steel Meridian and Fortuna. The syndicates/colonies may not know what the Tenno are but they see Tenno in different Warframes all the time, even in vastly different shapes and genders. So Mr. Leverian probably believes in this misconceptions or continues to spread it for his own reasons. So the stories about Ash, Ivara, and Gauss are actually Tenno controlled frames but he calls them by the type of the frame and not by the name of the Tenno. Who knows some of those stories are about our amnesiac Tenno.

Yeah, been following the game from afar for nearly two years now. I am content with that for the time being.

we need the quests to change the world around us. Like there needs to be a liberation quest for fortuna, and you see the changes from that quest.

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Keyword specter he said specter maybe the operator sacrificed the frame (protea)and provis just popped a specter to preserve him. Maybe that's why, because he obviously liked protea. Because I love protea tbh she is fun.

I think that since asleep tenno can be killed in one way or another (mirage and limbo for example) that the leverian frames are controlled by other tenno and their stories were from the original wielders who may be out there or dead and we obtain the schematics nonetheless.

I like conclave in warframe, a lil broken but i think its still worth playing and giving some attention to .

In disruption Little Duck often asks why Alad V calls the Tenno betrayers.

In the sacrifice quest, if I recall correctly, Ballas was admitting he lied. He called the warframe failures and omitted that they require Tenno in his reports in the process of making. The data pad was a spiteful confession of such actions. TLDR: Ballas’ data pad was a giant middle finger to the orokin. A confession of lying about the viability of the warframe project. Edit, I remembered the data pad was called a vitruvian

Yes we need more quests

I like the idea of evil tenno. It would make a lot of sense with stalker and other frames that operate out there. On the other hand, the helmeith strain is also as we know a possible cause.

Another theory would be that the main quest is supposed to be after all the side quests to make more ease on the new players and the durvi imo is after rising tide which is after sacrifice to make more sense and it's in a bit of jumbled order

Its explained in the quest that the protea in the quest basically burnt out saving parvos and left an imprint in the warframe, an imprint that became a function specter upon scanning a working warframe. Interestingly enough this could tie parvos to other warframe incidents as the quests says he got buddy buddy with the orokin for inventing specter tech. the second dream shows us a warframe can act in dependently in a limited circumstances, the sacrifice shows us that gen 1 warframes where people converted into frames via the helminth, the solar rails show us warframe specters that retain the ability speak, The Titania quest shows us transference is not limited to warframes or tenno (though not with out issues) Titania & harrow quest shows us transference can be used to bind a person to a place or frame in a powerful way. keeping this in mind I do not feel the Protea quest presents any inconsistency as it seems to line up thematically to me & I personally havent seen any stated facts the directly conflict with one another. wasnt sure where to fit this in the paragraph above but the Orokin love to clone stuff, they are really really good at it. i believe that gen 1 warframes like umbra are first made as templates & then these templates are cloned (tho umbra himself was made as a punishment not a template), this could also explain prime and non prime frames. Prime frames not being gen 1 frames like umbra but instead being as close to the original as possible, the golden standard warframes both able to act as a template for reproduction & hold the right appearance to operate in high orokin society while non primes where relegated to colony's, the extra flair reserved for the golden lords on high. as for stalker there are a few possibility's, he could be an original person turned warframe who was both loyal to the orokin & able to exert self control as a warframe. developing hatred for the tenno after they betrayed the orokin or some similar situation. I do feel how ever think that there is a better explanation, In the second dream it is mentioned that the stalker went mad after finding out the truth of the dream and the lotus was trying to protect us from that knowledge for fear we would react the same way, now that we know lotus was being controlled by the orokin it is likely stalker not only found out the truth of the dream but also lotus, From here its hard to say what happened after this point for the stalker & it remains unseen if stalker is controlling their warframe from a distance like we do or is bound to it like rel. I do feel I can explain stalkers hate for us, the second dream reveals to us that some very horrible stuff happened on the ten zero ship during the void jump incident also reinforced by the rel comic, such as the adults going mad and the kids sticking together and some even forming hunting parties. the stalker if indeed they are a tenno is most likely where an outsider to the main clicks of children who was against the idea of hunting parties and likely saw many people meet a horrible end, I believe this would explain why every message from the stalker places consequences on our actions & describes every boss kill as murder when he comes to attack. stalker sees the tenno as individuals of power who no one can realistically hold accountable. The stalker most likely hates us for the events aboard the zaramin ten zero, hates the orokin for their enslavement of the tenno & the lotus in turn sympathizing with hunhow trying to put his family back together something the stalker cannot do for them self. Stalkers acolytes probably follow a similar pattern & upon finding out the truth after being awoken from lua they join the stalkers quest for justice / revenge. The leverian story's from what i understand are stories about warframes from outside perspective with out knowledge of true tenno (as others have mentioned) its also worth remembering there is a period of time in the old war where the orokin are in control of lotus & in turn the tenno in the dream, This is most likely time period where the leverian story's come from.

Warframe lore with some Doom Eternal on the side. Sure I'll subscribe.

I think this quest came first not only to introduce protea but also time manipulation because after all what is a paradox with out messed up time

Protea's Tenno has been Transference Blue Screening since they got lost in the void

Or you are over thinking it. Perhaps in the spectrer creation process, they do use the template of a Warframe to make a copy. Perhaps in the copying process said Specter also takes on the mental persona of the transferred Operator too. It thus explains how the Specter is able to operate independently of the operator and Warframe.

I think the leverian and protea can just be explained that they all had operators as well. Just with protea when she and granum were sent to the void, he in a way reawakened her using his spectre tech so she wouldn't need her operator anymore. So yes all the Warframe's were failures until the tenno came along and gave them new purpose

I wonder if it's like Mesa or Chroma during the quests, it seems like they don't have Tenno either. Maybe Mesa was part of the Infestation hive mind, but Chroma seems to be something else.

I feel like there is couple of different type of warframes I meam in the way they're made

There are other tenno, we've known this since the second dream, someone had to have that loki, not to mention theres a rhino in the new war, as well as Rell. And yes Rell is a Tenno, same powers but hes not in the main group.

i like how you forgot that Rel's spirit commanded a warframe even to he was under the influence of the man in the wall and even before he was he chose to permanently bind himself to keep the man in the wall at bay that could sorta also explain the levirian frames or its just the tenno that still think they are the frame like ours did before the second dream quest awoken like you said. On a side note love the video its some interesting lore food for though.

6:39 well inconsistentices are bound to happen when they create new lore thats conflicting with what we previously know

Consider Chroma, in the New Strange the warframe acts without any apparent agent controlling it (though the wiki claims he's being controlled by the infestation, I can't say if this is the case based on my own memory of the quest). Excalibur Umbra demonstrated the ability to act, rather intelligently on its own. Furthermore we also had our tenno forget that he even was something outside of the warframes themselves. I think its entirely possible for this whole situation to be incredibly complicated.

I skipped out on the quest due to my friend saying that the drop chance for a protea part is extremely low, but I feel like playing the quest now

Has anyone noticed that there's a weird background for the outside of your orbiter that has a strange planet with two or three stars? I'm thinking that's one of the planets in Tau Ceti but thats just my opinion. Also at the end of the deadlock protocol parvos did mention the oncoming threat from tau, so if he was in the void for all of these years how does he know about this or did somebody update him on all of the stuff thats happening in the origin system right now? (Sorry for the really long comment)

0:30 I’m scared why can I see her face in this version of Eudico

Specters of the monorail, Stalker, Acolytes and Protea specter all posess that hissing, wheezing voice, while the players' wartframes speak in the voices of their operators. That got me thinking...

Me with a small army of specters sitting in my gear wheel "We good? We good."

I am really starting to think that the orokin have some way of wiping the tennos' memories to make it easier to control them. This would explain why Protea doesn't give a second thought about ending the tenno in deadlock protocol. However, a way to break the wipe or counter it could have lead to the tenno revolt and the slaughter of the orokin.

Am I the only one who sees how much influence man in the wall seems to have in the codex entries for parvos?

Leverian frames were tenno operated. As for Protea, the Warframe turned into a specter when she made the loop. Now either the Tenno's mind was sucked in the process, or he started wandering Lua. Remember those white ghost thingies strolling in some of the tileset room? This is what happens when a tenno's body is destroyed while using transferance.

I like the idea that Parvos may have had a child among the tenno and that that child might have been Protea's operator. However the void time loop was cut off and Protea's operator was unable to control it until their fellow tenno established contact.

It may be that the original frames, the ones deemed as failures by ballas, were prototypes. Which could further lend credence or at least link to the Nidus prototype theory

I've got some contention in the form of a few simple rebuttals: 1. All warframes past Umbra require Tenno to operate, as the strain is more inhibiting than Umbra. Evidence: Ballas states Umbra acts on a single burning memory of issa's murder. 2. Tenno that are completely synchronised with their frame believe they are the frame as per not having been awoken from the dream. 3. After a period of time Tenno become transference looped with their frame, locking them inside for eternity until the frame expires, killing them too, see Harrow.

The silver grove quest alluded to the origin of the stalker, they spoke of non-tenno, transferrence and undesirable consequences. Whether bad inference or not, it seems that may be the result of how the stalker came to be. They were some kind of orikin that decided to transfer into a frame. The acolytes seem to be just mismashed frames from multiple different warframe parts. These could be either people who tried to follow the stalker's footsteps, or they could easily be specters. Hunhow's comments to the stalker during the 2nd dream cinematics seem to reinforce this, his hatred for the tenno, and wishing things to be as they once were.

Let's see what will happen once we got the durivi paradox

I'm going to quickly note that i think that originally each operator/tenno was limited to only one frame, and later on they started mixing

I know this was made before Tenno con, but I personally believe that the reason we haven’t done the deviri paradox is because it will happen after demos, the reason being is the sentients will somehow destroy “the heart”, removing our powers and trapping us in the void, we will re discover our powers and new ones to truly be one with our frames being equally as powerful in both forms if not even more so in our Tenno form

Looks like it’s time to log back in....

Don't forget the lore. But like in Red Vs Blue, what is forgotten is also what can come back when least expected. Remember "memory is the key."

As for the Deadlock Protocol: I enjoyed it, I found the final boss fight quite challenging. However, besides the fact that the orokin gave Parvis a frame, and the fact that he ended up on a void-esque state, there isn't much of a difference with other frame's quests, sure, they expand a little the lore of the WF Universe, but that's it. However, and this is a fan-quest of mine, the whole 'The orokin gave someone a frame' part is definitively interesting, since I've been having this theory on my head about a fanquest, that goes essencially like this: The void has insane similarities with the 'Force' from Star Wars, with it being a mythical force we don't know much about, with the Corpus being essentially the Empire and the Tenno being like Anakin controled by a Palpatine/Natah. So my fanquest is about a "clone" situation with the whole idea being that between the Corpus akd the Grineer, they manage to reverse engineer the Warframes, and so they manage to create a Warframe like unit (like SW's clones) and they use it to go against the Tenno (we don't know for sure if CorpusVGrineer is actually a thing). So, considering that, essemtially we get to get a Grineer and a Corpus manufactured frame that is less powerful than actual frames when used by these factions (their users are in pain and can't unlock the potential), but when a Tenno links with these their internal structure then gets completely reworked into really powerfull frames (and opens the possibility to stuff like modular frames and a deeper explanation on how Tenno Powers work). And so we, not only get two themed frames, but also figures like Stalker or the sentients could play a role as well, since they are essentially creating another stalker in a way (Stalker being the frame w/o a tenno) amd the semtients could he getting a powerfull ally or foe

I found the Deadlock Protocol enjoyable and even more so when Parvos roasted Nef so hard that Nef was sweating bullets. LoL!

the biggest question of this quest a faction that has cheap autonomous robots inter dimensional comunication and cameras that are on the size of a human hand with the capability to transmit on incredibly high definition why the corpus are using solaris if the can send a moa as probe

I think Protea is a specter. It makes sense because Parvos invented specters and the Specters we deploy work in a similar way

7:06 Kid be looking like a younger Bayonetta.

Maybe he refers to failures in the sense that they were rebellious and individualistic, then when the Tenno came in the warframes seem to have lost that and were then “under control”

Well let's look at it from the Orokins point of veiw, the umbras where first and if they where shown as funtioning then the prime frames where created. The Leverian frames are the umbras, the event that made the frames go into mass production is the leverian entry. Protea would have had an umbra that would have proved itself before having a prime made for Pravos, there is no way the orokin would make a warframe and give the only one to a corpus.

Why do u think to we can hear the helminth when we go to the infested room and no where else or hear it at all

I’m a bit behind, but are the Leverian frames without Tenno? That’s the first I’ve heard of that

Maybe the protea we fight in the quest is just one of his specters he made and the parts we obtain from him are from the original

A question TheDsIEGE, have you found all the codex entries from the Corpus ship monuments? You mentioned Parvos and his beginning, I didn't catch much of that from the quest.