When that bass-junkie lady with her rollypolly Boombox t-bags the floor and fucken disappears

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Ahahaha… “borderline magical” *grants immortality.*

Laughs and "magically" creates 4 more of herself to make fun of the Audience, IF they remain alive!

Don't mind if I just read some fancy poetry and journal entries to conjure Ball Lightning for throwing at you

HA! *launches a shadow reaper to steal souls*

I need more of these 🤣

HA! *births a floating gem that shoots rainbows of pain at you*

@@InsomniacDoggo HA! *spawns spores on your skin and makes gives you a virus*

HA! *ZOOMS FASTER THAN GAUSS AND VOLT IN A STRAIGHT LINE*

Hydroid!

It's hard to say whether or not continuity was available to only a few Orokin because it was clear that many of them participated en masse. The reason I say this is because there are contradictory sources of information from what I understand. Thank you for sharing though!! I love debating 🙏😂 I mean that genuinely.

This explains why there are SO MANY Because in all reality, there should only be at the most two of every Warframe But you know, MMO RPG stuff

​@@DollarStoreAbominationwhy two I missed it?

@@Dunkopf you, the player, and rell, the austistic coded kid that was the previous harrow user

​@@inkwelldarkpit7722isn't it two of every frame because the original frames and then the copies YOU make? Having it be rell makes absolutely zero sense considering rell has no reason to be crafting other frames. Even if rell wanted to craft or rebuild the other frames how could he? He trapped himself in harrow for so long when would he even have the chance to?

@@Dunkopf Original and Primes Edit: My theory of the differences between originals and primes is the originals were the original Dax that were given the Helminth Strain and the Primes were the versions The Orokin made when they perfected transference technology for the tenno. This can explain why relics available change throughout our linear timeframe because the availability and development of said frames wouldn't have happened all at once. perhaps there is a set amount of time in the past that we are able to find relics, but Varzia is able to uniquely pick a timeframe through Aya. So in the linear time a Dax would be created into a warframe, and some time later that version would become Primed for the Tenno to use. This can also enable the convenience of the devs to slowly release the content while still be technically part of the law.

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I believe this is exactly what they are, just not all of humanity were given the chance to become the Orokin

no it actually is everything fell apart after the orokin fell

​@@Sheed96the Orokin fell BECAUSE everything was falling apart. Even with the Sentients gone the origin system was still doomed.

@@alexwashington8785 ok

You might be on to something

My theory is that we infact no longer posses bodies rather the snap shot of the look in the moment of the deal while being void bull shat and drifter is dominuses "hero role" for his mental cope given something like reality by the void and dominus is a traped version of us on the zariman via eternalisim

@@kalev_knight I would even say that we don't necessary posses bodies, but posses an idea of having a body - while we are aware of our existence, definite form of it is a product of our mind, hence our ability to appear in multitude of forms, since they are not really physical elements of reality, but our idea of them, And since our idea of our body changes once we use transference, we loose the idea of our appearance or in some cases position to embody another, this time - real/physical being.

@@strgn1360 the idea of our body is the point I was going for with the "snap shot of the look at the moment" since other than drifter we don't see any physical change in operator outside of the cosmetic

@@strgn1360 i think that beats the point of form, when referring to the requiem mods and their names. Jahu Xata and Lohk so on. Form is a fixated point. Although we are form fluid. Form still exists. Warframes are literally 3D printed life forms. Hence you get their parts and build them. Each of them had one form that got built and initialized for continuity. Then they simply was given to the tenno. Form is still as important as void. Because remember we use our powers too much. We lose form and a grasp on reality. And practically lose sentience or meaning. The void is just space. The man in the wall, i still can’t figure out what the maliciousness comes from. Cause it insinuates void is bad. When in reality void, is just everything. Intention determines if something is harmful. Imagine if you tried to extend your consciousness too far, youd lose yourself. I think using void powers works the same. Hence why we can’t just void nuke everything. Cause we quite literally risk not existing anymore. Thats why warframes exist. It’s really top tier lore ngl.

@@kalev_knight I'm aware of your point, but I'm referring more towards "Meta" of things - we can have any appearance, any face, skin tone and voice, just as Cavia is able to possess any colour, just as Lotus able to possess any appearance, for me it's representative of the change that operator, drifter, Lotus and Cavia went through - whatever our forms are, they are not representative of any physical form, rather our idea of it, our belief and desire - we are the operator as long as we believe that we are one, and we are the drifter as long as we believe that we are one, we are led by Lotus/ Margulis/ Natah that appear to keep/change colours of choice after the ending of particular quest. Kahl might be a customisable character, but he refers to his gear only as to his gear, while reacting to changes, but it is not the case with Lotus and us - we change forms in ways beyond just changing gear. We change the essence of our being and leave it into nothingness whenever we embody something that is not us. There is possibility of transference being similar to projection on missions, but that wouldn't explain our ability to connect to our Warframe on Kuva Fortress, nor the fact that we got physically stabbed, therefore the only explanation I can find for our form is that we do not possess a physical presence in reality, rather a physical representation of mental presence, which can take any form. Idea of our presence being mental would be consistent with how The Void functioned so far - plane where ideas gain forms whether their authors want it or not. And they must really want it.

I never liked biology anyway.😂🤷

Thank you so much!! Truly the best motivation I could possibly have. 🙌

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The sky is never the limit to someone who aims at the stars. I appreciate the sub! 🙏

I used to main limbo.... Don't hate me

Not as strong as it should be😂

Absolutely that's the only thing that made sense. Otherwise you're saying that kids with powers, didn't know how to use them and survived an unknown entity for an unknown period of time. Thank you for watching!!

@@PenOfEvil However, IF that's true then to me it doesn't make sense why a void recreation made by the man in the wall (rell) was able to confine the man in the wall. Plus the whispers in the wall quest suggest that we, the dreamer, somehow managed to break out of the deal.

When the Drifter took the deal with Wally(it was the Drifter, not the Operator that started everything) it created countless versions of the Drifter due to Eternalism(the scene showing the dozens of different versions of your character). These versions became us.. the Operators. The other Tenno children with us were saved by the powers of the Void and as we see with the Cavia anything that's been exposed to the Void gains Void powers, whether they're aware of these powers, whether these power allow them to active control the Void or not, whether the exposure kills them is all up for debate. The kids in the Drifters reality simply disappeared and appeared along with the Zariman in the Origin system, the Operators reality began the moment the Zariman returned to the Origin system(but obv we have the Drifters memory from before). The moment these kids returned the Orokin immediately quarantined them(in cryopods to slow down the exposure killing us, or so they thought as exposure wouldve killed us a long time ago were that possible) and began researching on their powers. This led to Margulis designing the steps for Transference and eventually her standing against the Orokin. These kids didn't survive any amount of time on their own with powers out of their control as they got them the moment Wally saved them along with the Zariman. We can't be killed because we are literally the embodiment of the Void. Void Demons if you will(like Vor).

​@@beardedzeus1337I liked this

@@beardedzeus1337 Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but the Drifter rejected the deal, it was the Operator that took it. That's why the Drifter had no powers and was stuck in the void.

Glad I could help!

"Another dead tenno" - Vor I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🙌

@@Sbeve_One terrifying

Love some death butterflies.

Thanks, will do!

I'm glad I could help!

🫢 wait that makes a lotta sense!! Madness by proxy of other deals being made. The idea of multiple mindsets collapsing into one another would definitely cause madness in theory. The only problem is that madness seems a bit too controlled to me.

This could be the case but I don't think it's true because our realities only got collapsed upon accepting the deal. Maybe the adults saw visions of their other selfs or somehow got conscious of them to a degree but I don't think a true collapse happened

🥹 Thank you!

"toki wo tamare!!"😂

he was still protecting us from the man in the wall.

@strateks9611 he said in the video that he distanced himself from them go read the comics they cast him away It's only afterwards he took it upon himself to actively protect them

Kinda, its not really specified.

​@@PenOfEvilRell literally calls you out in the quest while simultaneously defending himself, pushing the blame of his possession onto you. It's pretty specific.

@@WhenDevilsDuel Not only that but Palladino specifically says he was cast out for being different (aka autistic) in a very early scene of the quest. So yeah, super specific.

I don't ever plan on stopping🫡 Thank you!!

More to come!

Thank you for sharing a bit of your story with me! I'm glad I could help! 🙏

@@PenOfEvil I'm like brand new i speed ran the game which was a mistake as now I've hit a stone wall and struggle against level 50-100 enemies I'm only 200 logins old in warframe lol

That's a rabbit hole in itself.

Free rell 😂😭💯

Rap. Tap. Tap.

Let that sink in

Thank you kindly!

Hm

I appreciate you!!

Thank you!

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Ooooo good question I see what you're saying, so maybe the two.

It's possible that tenno operative isn't a tenno themselves, but rather an agent of the tenno who works with us, simliar to the people we recuse in rescue missions (I say this as those agents all bare lotus symbols, which are obviously assosicated with the tenno

@@scorpiowarrior7841 that’s trueeee also , if i’m not mistaken too , some of the Parvos Sisters’ dialogue mentions how they are pretty good at killing Tenno . but now that this could mean people that associate themselves with the Tenno as well , the answer seems more convoluted . because if canonically there are as many Tenno as there are players in the game . it makes the Tenno look really really week . like enough of us for the worlds biggest army and we haven’t won the war ? we might as well be another Grineer grunt then . so because of how noticeable you are to all the NPC’s in the game , i imagine there’s only a few of us at most , with accolades that precedes our reputations . 💭

@juniornxumalo3225 it wouldn't make us look super weak tbh. The grinner, corpus, and infested are borderline endless at this point. The grinner can endlessly grow new soldiers, the corpus are primarily robots, and the infestation is...a zombie faction.

The Tenno who helped defeat Erra showed there was at least 6. The new war we are directly told all kids except Drifter were rescued. The Zariman being a giant colony ship with a sizeable amount of classrooms suggests minimum 4 digits of kids, most likely 5. But it's a video game after all, there were enough kids for there to be 1 per player.

Definitely 🤕

My pleasure 🙏

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Word.

Not entirely. It's a real thing not exclusive to warframe.

Can I do make up work?

I'm glad, my head hurts every time I get into Warframe lore. 😂

Good quote!

Poetry is art and information :)

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@@PenOfEvil he even said it with the spooky void voice

"I bow to no man." -Riddick

@PenOfEvil One of the best series ever!!!

Lol

If that were a raid it’d have to include railjack and archwing sections of the boss fight and crazy ass platforming challenges for frames while fighting. That actually sounds amazing.

I hope not. The man in the wall is a literary device not a final boss and the best parts of him are the parts at don't and can't know. The more we know about the man in the wall the worse Warframes story gets.

@@actellimQT Ok we can work with this, Wally sends an Avatar from his 5D plan to 3D and it's a raid that explains the former.

​@@aaronball4700nah bruh. No platforming.

No alt fire but incarnon mode coming soon🫡

I don't understand what you mean. What resources? Albrecht shouldn't have been able to go to duviri in our timeline at least. The person manipulating the tablets is just Tmitw.

Thank you!! I am humbled. 🙏

That's not magic it's creativity.

Maybe, there are a few holes in my theory but it's truly difficult to try and fill them all.

​@@PenOfEvil no the tennos powers are conscious transference and void manipulation within matter or mental scope. tenno can perform continuity on demand, on willing or empty vessels. such as warframes. they have a physical body, but to say they are restricted to it is the stretch. theres some speculative stuff but it makes sense when you piece things together. we need warframes because we cant handle the strain of our powers without a conduit or catalyst. i love these lore vids keep it up!

I dont think the Drifter part is entirely correct for one reason: the Sirocco. It runs on Void energy and since the Drifter can use it outside the Void it has to be getting its energy from somewhere or rather someone. The Drifter did say, its not that they don't have "Void fury" it's more like they havent gotten it yet. Which I think means that unlike little Tenno who spent many years honing their Void powers, the Drifter spent arguably longer either suppressing them or channelling them into Duviri.

@@Hellothere-ss4jqthe drifter didnt know about void stuff void stuff is basically matter it exists everywhere. So it can fuel everything.

Amazing idea!

Maybe.

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It definitely is the warp in a way, though the warp is a lot more malevolent in my opinion

@PenOfEvil The Warp isn't inherently malevolent. It was changed to the state it's currently in due to the War in Heaven, iirc.

@@chrisdufresne9359 Hm in that case I agree, I haven't sharpened my Warhammer knowledge enough to fully understand it. So you may know better than me.

@@PenOfEvil I'd recommend watching Adeptus Ridiculous

I know what you're talking about! But basketball was just a lot easier to explain and far more known. 😂

Lacrosse?

waffle ball

@@williamemami3507 kinda but like with these scoop like things like the ones they use in Jai Alai. And the goal is way smaller, there's also no goal keeper and the players full tackle each other if needed. The field also doesn't really have a set size since the goal thingy is portable. It seems to have disappeared but I remember a lot of people playing it when I was a kid.

Thank you!

That's a video in itself lol

"Drifter escaped the duviri for some other reason." We are directly told that it was a childrens story book made manifest by conceptual embodiment. Originally meant as something while the kids waited. The problem happened when a reset happened and the Drifter legitimately forgot they were in a story book. They were then trapped in the story book world until Natah/Lotus hand came down and helped break the Drifter free from the cycle. It's why the end of the quest is Drifter sitting on the throne and reinstalling Dominous Thrax as the king, in the process reviving Teshin. Now they know it's a story book it can go back to functioning how it was designed. As for "the original you" that ceased to be 1000 years before the new war. A decision was made, you were rescued or you were not rescued. The game directly tells us the split was being rescued or not. That decision with 2 outcomes meant the Operator was assigned one and the Drifter was assigned the other. Same person, 2 individuals. Inside the void they can exist together, outside the void they can only exist in their original timeline. It's why only one can exist at any point in time, the assigned outcome was changed. Both Op and Drift were rescued, the main difference is time and what happened between the first rescue and the rescue 1000 years later. Ballas saying "you can't kill the devil" is more literal than most people realise. We're referred to as angel/demon/some form of light by all who know of the Tenno. While there is a physical body, any fatal damage is made null and we are restored by void magic. Ballas did banish the Operator, the Drifter helped out (most likely with some help from Man in the wall) and eventually the Operator was unbanished and the Drifters timeline was changed.

NAGEB EW SA DNE EW!

Gameplay doesn't match that, tenno still can't die, probs cuz Wally needs us still or we started exerting our own authority over void we don't fully know, "you can't kill a tenno devil, but you can send it back to hell"

Also externalism, shitty thing to just throw out there, but there will always be multiverse shenanigans in this now

Yes I believe this is true and i believe this is part of why loid says that the next thing we are doing is going back in time and fixing our broken timeline. It's not just Albrecht's mistakes, it's our own too.

Technically yes and no, I don't believe we can die. At least by normal means.

Then the circumstances are even worse🫢

Just to point it out SPOILER ALERT; Everyone on the Zariman doesn't actually die canonically this is just a theory and should be treated as such. There are actually spoilers in the video but other than that the thumbnail is in fact NOT a spoiler.

​@PenOfEvil Doesn't Archimedean or however her name is spelled of the Steadfasts say that they have all already died? She mentioned specifically that they're already dead but still alive somehow and she grew distressed then changed the subject.

@@S1l3ntL0v3r A simple way to put it the tenno are effectively immortal through eternalism. They can die but are instantly replaced by another copy as all their different timelines are folded into one, Kinda it gets really convoluted if you think about it too much.

Thank you!🙏

The next time you'll be amazed 🫡

@@PenOfEvil I loved your explanation I know a plot point will be that your not nothing without the man in the wall because the you that didn't get saved never made the deal

I saw the big bang....

Now SWEEP! 😂 Thank you for watching!!!

Technically thats technology 😂

Indeed this Zariman possibly isn't the original. 🤔

I love the lore most games.

@@PenOfEvil i think the main draw of Warframe from a lore standpoint is the endless ocean of concepts and ideas that get infinitely darker the longer you think about them

Sort of.

Another 40k lover I see.

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Log 1 Zariman teaser on Warframe's channel

Omnipotent* thank you for watching!

"multiversal bla bla" is getting put in a video.

@@PenOfEvil hooray, lol.

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Chroma!!

As someone relatively new to the story that was one of my first assumptions. Maybe like a ground zero original you that somehow either manifested the void or entered at some point and now exists outside of reality as we know it. (I know you were probably joking but it shouldn't be outside the realm of possibility)

Not far from the truth

Yes and no, don't think about it too much.

Warhammer lore is spectacular !