Was Jojen Reed Keeping The Truth From Bran Stark? - Game of Thrones Season 8 (End Game Theories)

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Talking Thrones

Talking Thrones

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome back for another Game of Thrones Season 8 End Game Theories Video. Today I want to talk about Jojen Reed, and his Green Dreams. Jojen Reed was able to see future events in his dreams, and he may have been hiding something from Bran Stark. When they are at Craster's Keep, he tells Bran this isn't the end, not for you, not yet... What did Jojen Reed mean by this, and why was he looking at his hand that was burning? Was this foreshadowing the fate of Jojen Reed, or was it foreshadowing something far more important? Check out the video and let me know what you think. Thank you for watching!
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@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
I love what Jojen said to Karl Tanner.. I saw your body burn, bitch!
@serlawrenceharlem6715
@serlawrenceharlem6715 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones hey does it help you if I watch the whole add instead of 5 sec skip? I know yt tracks your total time watched but does the adds count in your favor?
@cosmogal10
@cosmogal10 5 жыл бұрын
I wud like to know as well. I so enjoy watching ur videos. Always so well thought out. Keep up the terrific work!
@serlawrenceharlem6715
@serlawrenceharlem6715 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones the fire hand will prob play a part Melisandre said she has to come back to die in that strange land. Does anyone think the Order of the Green Hand will play a part since Ned was a member. And theres that first description by Catalyn on how Lord Eddard was warm blooded.
@Jeff_Thomas
@Jeff_Thomas 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen was having a "dream of spring"...that's what he saw when he looked at the tree.
@desireebrackin3277
@desireebrackin3277 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones .. do you think that his hand looked like a womans shape.. just throwing it out there
@minarockio9974
@minarockio9974 5 жыл бұрын
Now that Game of throne has come to an end. I believe now that Jojens hand on fire symbolized the end of the iron throne.
@junelledembroski9183
@junelledembroski9183 2 жыл бұрын
I think it symbolized nothing just like the everything else symbolized nothing the way they ended it
@mgrant5962
@mgrant5962 5 ай бұрын
Oooooo, that is a great analogy
@773p
@773p 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most impressive things about your videos is the fact that u give us stea dy content without being repetitive or doing a million top ten videos. I hope after GOT is over u find other shows to breakdown. Appreciate your hard work, thanks
@LosN209
@LosN209 5 жыл бұрын
773 p HBO has a few spin offs lined up. This shd give him steady work for years to come
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It does get hard to keep things fresh when making so many videos.
@obi-wankenobi1045
@obi-wankenobi1045 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones the more we will appreciate your hard work
@davebigtree6947
@davebigtree6947 5 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if one of the spin offs was a band of brothers style campaign of some king in the past
@diabeticavenger8475
@diabeticavenger8475 5 жыл бұрын
dave bigtree honestly I think a sweet way to do it would be a ‘American Horror Story’ type deal! Not saying keep all the same cast every season, but each season is a different story we get to follow. One season is Roberts Rebellion, the next is Bran the Builder, then The Doom of Valaryia and so on and so forth. There is so much to pull from that I would hate for them to focus on just one thing for 6 seasons.
@brandonford5993
@brandonford5993 5 жыл бұрын
I figured Jojen's seizures were because he not only saw his own death but events past his own lifespan
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
That is a cool way to look at it. Makes sense to me.
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
@@TalkingThrones yup. Me too. Too mucH power for that slim Body. Nicknamed LIL GRANDPA
@aqsasultana2753
@aqsasultana2753 5 жыл бұрын
I think bran is connected to night king just like harry potter was connected to voldemort.
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
He definitely has a strong connection to him.
@mohmoony3918
@mohmoony3918 5 жыл бұрын
(But No homo)
@mikeplaymadden8334
@mikeplaymadden8334 5 жыл бұрын
Don't say his name you honorable fool
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
If in fact BRAN IS THE NK😣
@mixwellindustry4628
@mixwellindustry4628 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen buring hand may be representing the end of knight king with fire lighten by bran along ...with himself and grabing the knight king into same fire flames..........
@dentistguba
@dentistguba 5 жыл бұрын
"how will we know of the end" 'well usually the theme music plays and the credits roll.'
@Tommy-nq5bo
@Tommy-nq5bo 5 жыл бұрын
Boi ur gonna be so disappointed
@blacktalon1597
@blacktalon1597 5 жыл бұрын
GJ, I had hoped Jojen lived longer, he was deep in mystery.
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 5 жыл бұрын
BlackTalon 1 he's probably dead in the books too. Jojen paste...
@aleg2716
@aleg2716 5 жыл бұрын
"This is not the day I die" - Jojen is still alive in the books
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 5 жыл бұрын
+Ale G Jojen paste...
@devan6935
@devan6935 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhenry3234 weirwood sap is red too, you know
@richardmiklos
@richardmiklos 5 жыл бұрын
1:45 that Thanos tree tho 😂 thought it's a meme for a sec
@teaparty54
@teaparty54 5 жыл бұрын
This dude really should have been a writer.
@samerna5776
@samerna5776 5 жыл бұрын
The North Remembers Best Opening
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
SAMER NA Thank ya
@nicoleshh
@nicoleshh 5 жыл бұрын
SAMER NA All hail Lyanna Mormont, Queen in the North! 😂
@redinthethevalley
@redinthethevalley 5 жыл бұрын
“Crows their all liars” according to old Nan ..... the knight King was being controlled by the three eyed raven hence why he went into the cave to kill him he doesn’t want to be his puppet anymore and now that Bran is the three eyed raven the knight king will hunt him down and kill him.
@autumnlover5784
@autumnlover5784 5 жыл бұрын
redinthevalley This makes sense on so many levels!! AND first time I have ever seen it, Nice very Nice
@KHH595
@KHH595 5 жыл бұрын
I like this. I've always felt something was off about the three eyed raven and that quote from old Nan has really stuck with me and made me feel like he wasn't on the "good side." Nice theory.
@matthewriser1091
@matthewriser1091 5 жыл бұрын
Legit !
@atxtjgx5454
@atxtjgx5454 5 жыл бұрын
But isn't Bran kinda dead already? The transition into being the 3-eyed Raven seems to have subdued/erased his original personality to some extent, right?
@mariekedeelen-dokter8547
@mariekedeelen-dokter8547 5 жыл бұрын
My point exactly Gregg. In fact Bran is dead. They said so on the show. In season 7 back in Winterfell, Mira said my brother died for you but you haven't even said thank you. Or someting in that order. I dont know the respons of Bran, but Mira answers you also died in that cave.
@SamIr-fp7vo
@SamIr-fp7vo 5 жыл бұрын
Jes
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
Far as i can tell Yes.
@NUFCMVFC
@NUFCMVFC 5 жыл бұрын
In a manner of speaking, but there's an argument that Bran really dies when he was pushed out of the window
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
I personally will accept that. Again lets face it we didnt see him lying there. Could hav been like JON resusrrected essence. OR his body was needed by the 3ER. Personally i need for S8 to get here because i would really like to know WHAT happened to BRAN as we knew him. He is less and less OUR BRAN the MORE he developes his "Powers". And abother thing Jorgens Dad Howland Reed ? How can you allow this wierdness to involve your kids ?
@shirleyshine1285
@shirleyshine1285 5 жыл бұрын
The mystery of GOT is undeniable.
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
SHIRLEY Shine I love it
@kelvinkelvini250
@kelvinkelvini250 5 жыл бұрын
That's why it's the best show ever
@MG-rf5vp
@MG-rf5vp 5 жыл бұрын
Liked the important details from Jojen. Jaime shakes Jon's hand and pulls it toward him with a firm grip. Jaime loses a hand and given a gold hand by Qyburn with engravings. Tinfoil I wonder if Qyburn did anything magical to the hand. In the heroes cave the drawing has a person that seems to have a special hand. The end of season 7 ends with the hand of Jaime and snow melting on his gold hand. Jaime is a focus in Bran's visions.
@user-pv7qb5ok5m
@user-pv7qb5ok5m 5 жыл бұрын
M G feels like a common theme in the story is losing part of one's self to move forward. Jon losing his life to justify leaving the watch, Danny losing her baby to become MOD, Bran losing use on his legs to become TER. Perhaps Jaime had to lose his hand to become TPTWP? A distinct possibility given the foreshadowing and being a top 5 character.
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
Oooooh i LOVE that theory and I wondered sbout the gloved hand but but ive seen that scene before somewhere. It kinda smacks of foreshadowing for sure. Prince that was promised? IDK.
@janncattuzzo8503
@janncattuzzo8503 5 жыл бұрын
This is probably your most thought provoking video you have done yet! And why I'm a fan of yours. So many things to ponder! Thank you for another great video!
@themachine3490
@themachine3490 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen could be talking about something else Mira referred to later. Remember in season 7 when Mira was going to go back home and she called out Bran, he said not really. I remember what it was like to be him. She also stated "You died in that cave" since now Bran lives as the raven. I think that is what Jojen was referring to.
@desmondskinner9769
@desmondskinner9769 5 жыл бұрын
Love the way you keep me guessing and going back over episodes and really take heve of the dialogue now
@aprilzoegandphoenix6484
@aprilzoegandphoenix6484 5 жыл бұрын
As always, your intro's iconic. Maybe one of my favorite lines in the show!🖤
@jade3026
@jade3026 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I appreciate your channel so much. I just am not in the mind space to read books especially ones so intricate, and I love being able to hear theories that stem from the book and all the extra details about character plots. Keep up the fantastic content, you are my favorite GoT commentary channel 😊
@nikhilaryal
@nikhilaryal 5 жыл бұрын
Notification hits *goosebumps* Theme music plays *tons of goosebumps *
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
😀
@nikhilaryal
@nikhilaryal 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones 😍😍😍
@harshitrajrocks
@harshitrajrocks 5 жыл бұрын
It sooo awesome
@omahabibblemaddox2181
@omahabibblemaddox2181 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a dopamine hit lol
@JimboV360
@JimboV360 5 жыл бұрын
Which track is the sound in the background
@mtalhahassan
@mtalhahassan 5 жыл бұрын
I think John Snow is not of much importance to the Night King as he had many chances to kill him but passed.On the other hand the Night King always wanted to kill or reach Bran Stark.There is something fishy about this. You should make a video about this .
@cheebagardens1759
@cheebagardens1759 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they passed because they both have blood of dragons and blood of the first men.
@miriam3848
@miriam3848 5 жыл бұрын
What if.... The white walkers are the good guys, who are trying to safe mankind and the world from Bloodraven's scheming?..
@toobi154
@toobi154 5 жыл бұрын
Reading this after s8 episode 3. YOU.ARE.THE.MVP.
@mian30
@mian30 5 жыл бұрын
@@toobi154 exactly.
@vargil000
@vargil000 5 жыл бұрын
After watching the Long night, i can say you were right in everything you said!
@ieatzebraarah
@ieatzebraarah 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great take on that scene I always felt there may have been more to it than I realized but great video!
@youraverageguy2495
@youraverageguy2495 5 жыл бұрын
Guys! We have finished filming season 8, its a WRAP.
@hollycooper7177
@hollycooper7177 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Jon also burned the hand of the wight that was shown to Cersei. I think it's plausible that Jon will kill Bran.
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
holly cooper Hmm. Good point about the Wight hand.
@samsterling1462
@samsterling1462 Жыл бұрын
yeah nope. lol Unless it happens in the Jon Snow sequel.
@cosmictywlite
@cosmictywlite 5 жыл бұрын
Jon needs a lot of help to Defeat the night King & his Army of the Dead,maybe ! Jon needs his own Army of the Dead ! I wonder, if it his rite under his feet in Winterfell ? After ( 8000 Years of Stark rule in the North ) one would think there are a lot of Dead Starks in those Crypts, why were there all Buried with their Swords & are their Valyrian steel swords ! I think this is where Bran wakes his Dead Ancestor `s to help Jon & Daenerys & her Dragons ! Finally defeat the night King !
@terribaker2237
@terribaker2237 5 жыл бұрын
Always giving us good things to think about while we deal with the waiting. Thank you
@scumalicious
@scumalicious 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Nobody breaks it down better than you
@dougtexas
@dougtexas 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think it means something more than Jojen's death, since he did see more of Bran's future than he revealed to Bran.
@VondaInWonderland
@VondaInWonderland 5 жыл бұрын
Wow (shivers)! That scene gives me the willies. I have a feeling that it's not good to end well for Bran♥
@miguelrojas1686
@miguelrojas1686 5 жыл бұрын
VonDa in Wonderland this didn’t age well
@estriestrazi
@estriestrazi 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen’s burning hand makes more sense as a representation of The Firey Hand than just a burning hand. There is something I wanted to add for thought that’s unrelated to the content of this video to see what you think. In the Azor Ahai reborn prophecy it only states that a warrior will draw a sword from the fire and this sword shall be Lightbringer. That said all of this speculation about Lightbringer being reformed is simply that. It doesn’t need to be reformed so there is no need for Dany or Mel to be sacrificed. Only that the sword will be in a fire. Secondly I found it coincidentally related that Nissa Nissa , specifically Nissa sounds very much like Mhysa (mother) that the slaves of Astapor chant. We know how words can be altered over time. Perhaps Nissa Nissa was never Nissa at all perhaps it was a chant of Mhysa, Mhysa. I’ve never heard this brought up before. Do you have a theory?
@craigscott822
@craigscott822 5 жыл бұрын
Estri Estrazi Absolutely brilliant theory !!! I love it
@fireandblood8142
@fireandblood8142 5 жыл бұрын
Mhysa derived from Messiah. Dany is a Godess figure, she's the embodiment of Jesus in ASOAIF and is the Promised Hero
@joshadkins9185
@joshadkins9185 5 жыл бұрын
Or as I see it Bran is a God like figure and Jon the Jesus.
@borealphoto
@borealphoto 5 жыл бұрын
Mhysa Nissa is an old theory dismissed as too obvious. I think it's the right one. It's planted early on, dismissed and forgotten. And I don't know if it's just a coincidence but in the audiobook, when Salladhor Saan tells the AA story, there's a pause (coma) between the two Nissa, so Nissa repeated twice. I also believe the sword tempering in the AA story are armies. Water is Euron's, Lion is Cersei's and Nissa would be Dany''s. Jon already tried the water and the lion in the show and it didn't work, then he stabbed Dany on the boat. ;)
@headshotyeet3670
@headshotyeet3670 5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the amazing videos to get us through the long night!
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hennig65
@hennig65 5 жыл бұрын
Long night lol. It was like 1 night
@molson9059
@molson9059 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen basically told Bran that he would die just not yet but that he would know when the end came. Very cryptic yet pretty clear that Bran would definitely die. I have been leaving this in everyone’s comments for quite a long while now glad you finally saw this for yourself and basically said the same thing.
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
I Didnt want to believe at first but it makes sense. A savrifice by SOMEONE is def callwd for to defeat the NK. Will it be Bran? Could be.
@nafiisaa
@nafiisaa 5 жыл бұрын
Before this video I always thought Jojen was referring to his own death. But after watching this video, I think what you're saying might be true. The fact that how brilliant of a writer GRRM is, just blows me away. A frigging wordsmith of this century!!
@BonanzaRoad
@BonanzaRoad 5 жыл бұрын
As always a very perceptive analysis of the clues and hints, and fascinating conclusions about what it all could mean.
@thevgirl5428
@thevgirl5428 5 жыл бұрын
I like this. Tin Foil Alert: Since we know that George was a huge Tolkien fan, what if Bran is Frodo and Jon is Aragon. Like Aragon, Jon will be the distraction with the night king that we see on the TV show and will keep us all distracted while Frodo/Bran destroys the original Night King that is back in the lands of always winter. Using the Beric theory, if we kill the original night king we will destroy them all. I know it's a bit out there, but I believe they showed us the night king with a beard in the caves of Dragonstone for a reason. I did warn you that this was some tin foil. :)
@fireandblood8142
@fireandblood8142 5 жыл бұрын
okay but... what about Daenerys? Why did GRR Martin say that Jon and Dany were the key of the story, the two most important characters?
@thevgirl5428
@thevgirl5428 5 жыл бұрын
I think Jon and Dany are extremely important. I didn't say that Bran was the most important. I do think that Bran's contribution to defeating the Night King will be huge and that the 3 of them will be instrumental in the Night King's defeat.
@aude-y8571
@aude-y8571 5 жыл бұрын
You were right. But it was Arya. Nice though
@baruchgoldberg6280
@baruchgoldberg6280 5 жыл бұрын
You ended up being close lol...
@cassier3544
@cassier3544 5 жыл бұрын
This is one theory I’ve never heard of, but I absolutely love it! I can see it referring to the end of the show since he was talking about how they would know it’s the end.. thanks again for another amazing vid !! 😇👍🤗
@michelehelbacka2459
@michelehelbacka2459 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on all the Reeds - Howland and Meera, too! This one was aces.
@jabojr5171
@jabojr5171 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I agree, Jojen was talking about Bran, he did say, "not yet" when speaking to Bran. What I don't like is how in every story I've ever read yor watched those who can see the future never just spit it out, the're always vague. It would have been helpful if Jojen just spoke up, they did have plenty of time on their walk, Jesus. If I was Bran, I would have worged into Hordor and beat the hell out of Jojen until he told me everything he knew. Sort of ruines the end, but hey I wouldn't have to wait till 2019 to find out. lol
@FallenAngel2021
@FallenAngel2021 5 жыл бұрын
If Bran knew that he was going to die, he might turn away from fulfilling his true potential.
@alramalho4160
@alramalho4160 5 жыл бұрын
visions are not direct , they are scattered images and metaphorical as the video even explained . jojen may have not fully understood his visions therefore he wouldnt speak up on it
@CereceMurphy
@CereceMurphy 5 жыл бұрын
Great insight, as usual. Thanks so much.💓
@saltman4935
@saltman4935 5 жыл бұрын
Just a great video brother always picking the best intro
@1mHaVok
@1mHaVok 5 жыл бұрын
GUYS FILMING HAS WRAPPED, WE ARE MONTHS AWAY STAY STRONG SEASON 8 IS ALMOST HERE
@1mHaVok
@1mHaVok 5 жыл бұрын
MAY THE FORCE BE W YALL
@1mHaVok
@1mHaVok 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Bean it’s not twelve months away ya dooney early spring most likely, could be even first few months of the year. No one knows
@beeeatch8763
@beeeatch8763 5 жыл бұрын
Ruhmon CANNOT WAIT
@tchaugn
@tchaugn 5 жыл бұрын
April is 6 months away lol and that's early Spring
@ceciliamiller975
@ceciliamiller975 5 жыл бұрын
Yup only 3 1/2 more Monthssss!!!
@MichaelGrant_mlkgrant
@MichaelGrant_mlkgrant 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Jojen Reed... became sicker and sicker because of the Green sight the 3 eyed Raven sent to him... the Reed's don't have the magical blood like Bran Stark has to be a Green Seer...Jojen's burning hand could have had something to do with the Keep going up in flames later that evening! and It could have something to do with the end game...
@SithScribe21
@SithScribe21 5 жыл бұрын
I do like the burning hand indicating the "Fiery Hand" playing a big role in the end game!
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool way to foreshadow it
@t.j.hughes140
@t.j.hughes140 5 жыл бұрын
We know John was burned by the lantern when saving Mormont from the Whyte, and that's fine. But, what changes were made to him after dying and being brought back? Is he now immune to fire? I wonder how that affected his physiology? Are his "swimmers" different now? We don't know enough about the biology/physiology of the people brought back from the dead by Rholor. Just a thought.
@rosielewis592
@rosielewis592 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 5 жыл бұрын
You're so bloody brilliant!!!
@sgriff-zf9nc
@sgriff-zf9nc 5 жыл бұрын
By far the best game of thrones based channel around hats off to you sir for the good content
@bigbigby4657
@bigbigby4657 5 жыл бұрын
As I commented before, I still think that since the Night King harmed Bran's arm in real life by touching him in the Weirwood net that Bran will figure out Bran himself can actually harm the Night King in real life by harming him in the Weirwood net.... Thus what makes Bran soooo important.
@sandztorm8223
@sandztorm8223 5 жыл бұрын
i like your theories, talking thrones. only watched yours.
@MariaSCarr
@MariaSCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Jamie also lost that same hand. Perhaps he will be connected in some way
@Voldemartha
@Voldemartha 5 жыл бұрын
Maria Carrigan and it's shiny and made of gold (=fiery?)
@marwindeguzman7217
@marwindeguzman7217 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually what I am thinking. Bran will fight in the past and Jaime will fight in the present. Jaime killing Bran will bind the beginning and the end, btw, I think
@mickeybitsko9856
@mickeybitsko9856 5 жыл бұрын
Tormund: "I like it." The Hound: "I bet you do." But srsly, interesting theory.
@katnimphie7831
@katnimphie7831 5 жыл бұрын
I think Jaime is azor ahai and that’s what jojens vision meant. Jaime will finally have a hero’s tale to add to the white book of kingsguards
@celemax4692
@celemax4692 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I really would like this to happen more than anything. I mean Jamie is a great character and I want him to have an important role to play in the war, so If his hand somehow could be the key to defeat the NK or help in someway
@summer8856
@summer8856 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this was all about Jojen having foreseen his own end. The burning hand was symbolism of the burning of his body when they'd finally reached The Three Eyed Raven. I don't think it had anything to do with Bran's death.
@joppadoni
@joppadoni 5 жыл бұрын
like it bud, lovely vid as always :D
@justsaying4488
@justsaying4488 5 жыл бұрын
These 6 episodes better e great. So many questions, so much things to wrap up. So much pressure.
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope so. They should have filmed more so they could wrap up the story better.
@donnielocklear7537
@donnielocklear7537 5 жыл бұрын
I think he was just saying that this isn't how Bran would die. We all know that everyone dies, so Bran will die eventually, just not at that moment. I don't think Jojen knew anything else, and if he did, there's not enough time for it in the last season. Sometimes what you see is what you get and there's nothing else. Jojen's purpose was to put Bran on the right path and that's all.
@MegaChris456
@MegaChris456 5 жыл бұрын
I think Jojen was trying to tell Bran that he isn't dead until he becomes the Three-Eyed Raven.
@littlelovlygirl99
@littlelovlygirl99 5 жыл бұрын
💘 💘 💘 💘 Talking Thrones! Thank you!
@yoso5934
@yoso5934 Жыл бұрын
These reviews are so cool
@LodvarDude
@LodvarDude 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, and thanks for all the videos. Really appriciate it, even the more "out there" speculations ones. If you don't mind me asking, where in the US are you from? Your dialect is really striking and interesting. I assume it's somewhere in the south, but it would be intersting to place it. Hope you don't mind the question and feel free to just ignore me if you don't want to answer. Thanks again, and take care.
@virginiavmoore672moore8
@virginiavmoore672moore8 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Thank you Dan for being here through the long night 🔥🔥🔥I think that maybe the burning hand could possibly represent the firey hand that Melisandre may bring to the war 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@joeyrozic1100
@joeyrozic1100 5 жыл бұрын
That Intro alone gave me so many Goosebumps.
@sanchittandon9196
@sanchittandon9196 5 жыл бұрын
How didn't we see that coming. A very interesting theory. THANK YOU TALKING THRONES
@iworkharvey4103
@iworkharvey4103 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I think the brilliance of GRRM’s writing is that he can take characters like Jojen and the Three-eyed Raven, and make you doubt their motives, even though they are individuals who probably sacrificed the most in an effort to win the Great War. For example, as Brynden Rivers, Three-eyed Raven has a history of using his martial, magical and intellectual talents to support the Targaryen line, and doing what is best for the Realm. Rivers also had Targaryen and First men blood (a Blackwood). I think his motives and Jojen’s motives are to show Bran, Sam and important the people who matter that Jon has an important role to play for humans to win the Great War. They know that role and they know how the story ends, but they do not want to disturb history by telling the players how their story ends.
@adityavardhanjain
@adityavardhanjain 5 жыл бұрын
Taking thrones is the reason I'm getting more excited for GoT as the time gets NG forward. This guy is awesome. Wanna see ur face once though. 😄😄😂
@rpproductions6241
@rpproductions6241 5 жыл бұрын
I always love your videos. Never caught this before! But that scene where Jojen dies has always bugged me. Wights were never skeletons and after this scene I don’t recall them every being shown as such since. Then there was the fact that Jojen started to turn into a Wight with no White Walker in sight. Which is fine, they have a far reach, but this entire scene gives the wrong impression.
@nanasakvarelidze9148
@nanasakvarelidze9148 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your channel! It is the best one out there among the GoT channels
@therealsummer83
@therealsummer83 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe refering to the fiery hand coming in the end
@therealsummer83
@therealsummer83 5 жыл бұрын
Commented before the end of the video😂
@JMac-27
@JMac-27 5 жыл бұрын
Bran most important character, hmmph welcome to season 8
@DebraMelnyk
@DebraMelnyk 5 жыл бұрын
Jon is so AH because of how his true parents were hidden for so long and he is a child of fire and ice.
@cowboyoutlaw2444
@cowboyoutlaw2444 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that came to me before the video ended. Jojen's hand was on fire including his fingers. In the book ADWD Tyrion is traveling with a red priest named Moqorro and his "Firery Fingers" on the ship. Maybe it is a total coincidence but I couldn't help noticing the two parallels. Perhaps this is a foreshadowing for the book readers for something with Rhollor/Azori Ahai.. keep the videos coming TT!
@gigilee3954
@gigilee3954 5 жыл бұрын
Thank -you :) I believe that Arya will kill Bran. Tin foil warning... in the first season Ned tells Arya not to kill her sister with needle, the scene immediately cuts to Bran's face lying in bed. Next time was in last season. When Bran hands Arya the valerian dagger he hesitates and it almost seems like he pulls the dagger towards his chest... just my tin foil
@262rva9
@262rva9 5 жыл бұрын
Gigi Lee interesting thought. Maybe all the remaining Starks will need to be together to end the NK, including Theon who Jon tells is both a Greyjoy and a Stark. The pack survives. This would help explain why Bran stays at Winterfell knowingly endangering the lives of all those there since he knows the NK is after him.
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong,why would she kill her brother?
@cynthiahay4754
@cynthiahay4754 5 жыл бұрын
Love this!!!!
@HeyitsUnotMe
@HeyitsUnotMe 5 жыл бұрын
Really we thinking on a Saturday night??!! Love it 🤗😪🤫🤣
@juliew2264
@juliew2264 5 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to me that we call them "Green" seers and their dreams are "Green" dreams. It seems like a statement about the powerful life-force in Nature and trees is being emphasized.
@opstovall626
@opstovall626 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite GOT end game theory is that Jojen's fiery hand is symobolically referencing Jaime Lannister's golden hand catching on fire when he uses it to kill Cersei. Azor Ahai had to kill the woman he loved most to bring fire to LightBringer, and the prophecy is that Azor Ahai will rise again. I believe it to be Jaime Lannister's golden hand bursting to flames after killing his sister......or maybe Brienne of Tarth?!
@lupojayc
@lupojayc 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you you’re content truly is 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 and it’s been bothering me what jojen meant by that for once I don’t have my own predictions on this I just know it gave me a bad feeling for bran.
@Khaleesi_Of_NZ
@Khaleesi_Of_NZ 5 жыл бұрын
Sooooo funny. Just finished watching this episode earlier today and was wondering if Jojen was keeping stuff from Bran. In 15 minutes I will find out. Thanks TT 😊
@brianmulgrew1425
@brianmulgrew1425 5 жыл бұрын
I like what you said about embracing both sides...like when Jon tells Theon that he is both Stark and Greyjoy, he does not have to choose, could be hinting at what Jon himself needs to emnrace
@warriorking_always6066
@warriorking_always6066 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for a brilliant upload. I couldn’t help but think of the burning of the Weirwood Trees as I watched this video...the end of magic and maybe the end of Bran. Just a thought.
@TalkingThrones
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
WarriorKing _Always Interesting idea. When Jojen has his vision in that scene, there is a big weirwood tree behind Bran, then we see his hand burn.
@TheTurbofran
@TheTurbofran 5 жыл бұрын
The 3ER didn't seem interested in Jon at all. He didn't show Bran Jon's birth (Bran was nosey and went to see that on his own), instead he showed him the fight between Arthur Dayne/Ned and pulled Bran away after Lyanna's screams, probably because he didn't want to distract him from the actual goal. Jon also doesn't feature in Bran's visions which I think are trying to show Bran the endgame. I didn't pick up on Jojen saying 'not yet' about the end for Bran so that's really interesting. I definitely think his burning hand is about the endgame and not his own death, it would be great foreshadowing on a rewatch once the series has finished.
@DebMusicforAll
@DebMusicforAll 5 жыл бұрын
My take on it is that Bran will know the end because he will have seen his own/the end, just as Jojen has seen is own end (his own flaming hand illustrating that his visions and knowledge of his own demise is nearly always with him). Thanks for your vids!
@TruthSeeker434
@TruthSeeker434 5 жыл бұрын
Youre at the top of your game...thanks...
@shehulking
@shehulking 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you made this video. I assumed that when Jojen looked at his hand burning that that was about The Fiery Hand of R'hllor coming. And I hope that Melissandre is Nissa Nissa. I think that would make her so happy. I would love your thoughts on Arya's dagger. Specifically on Bran's reaction immediately after he handed it to her. He appeared to hesitate and reflect just after and it makes me wonder if that dagger isn't intended for him after all. I would love to know your thoughts on that split second reaction by Bran. Knowing the end is going to be bittersweet makes me feel like Bran won't make it. Someone, anyone! Please send me the books. I'm dying of unfulfilled obsession!
@giannimanzano9266
@giannimanzano9266 5 жыл бұрын
You are a great storyteller.
@dallasitzen2616
@dallasitzen2616 5 жыл бұрын
Yea! Awesome observations.
@tricko2286
@tricko2286 5 жыл бұрын
Bran will somehow takeover/become the Night King and, to destroy him, Bran will sacrifice himself by letting John slay him with the fire sword.. he will already have seen it.
@IamAmericasDaughter
@IamAmericasDaughter 5 жыл бұрын
I picked up on this when first or second time watching.
@YAGIRLARI68
@YAGIRLARI68 11 ай бұрын
Oh my sweet summer child 😅 Looking back on these videos after the end of the show 😵‍💫
@christophervillareal6151
@christophervillareal6151 5 жыл бұрын
I liked that theory about Jamie hand reappearing as light bringer
@annam5675
@annam5675 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for someone to see this too! I have always thought he meant for bran (hand on fire).
@starkiller-8684
@starkiller-8684 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Bro 👌
@nymeriadarkstorm3239
@nymeriadarkstorm3239 5 жыл бұрын
It finally feels like we are getting closer. ❤
@James-dn8dh
@James-dn8dh 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been thinking about this scene alot lately
@jesspace4069
@jesspace4069 5 жыл бұрын
ive allways kept that scene in the back of my mind with his fist on fire
@mdotwil
@mdotwil 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting video...
@anapye6576
@anapye6576 2 жыл бұрын
I think what jojen meant by not yet is when bran becomes the three eyed raven, he isn't bran anymore. So when they get to the cave, it's brans end. Edit: I also think the fiery hand represents the burning of King's landing
@MegaPerson012345
@MegaPerson012345 Жыл бұрын
Meera "you died back in that cave"
@neurokitty5676
@neurokitty5676 5 жыл бұрын
There's even more in that episode that gives clues to the end, than just Jojen's hand moment. On rewatch (being caught up to the end of season 7) there's defo more to this episode than meets the eye.
@cjinpa5713
@cjinpa5713 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot all about that scene!! I need a full rewatch! Plus I’m getting antsy waiting......and waiting........and I still have lots more waiting to do to before season 8!
@makaidiy5716
@makaidiy5716 5 жыл бұрын
One character who I have missed in the show is Howlin Reed. I can't help but feel that his abscence (and hopeful appearance in season 8) is very important.
@Solitude1990
@Solitude1990 5 жыл бұрын
Jojen meant a general "you", he wasn't speaking specifically to Bran when he said "you'll know". I also think Jojen's burning hand is symbolizing the place(they're currently in) being burned down. Could maybe even symbolize it all burning down in the end anyways. George did say the ending would be bitter sweet, so maybe a lot of people will die and the entire place will be in ruins; but some will live to tell the story. Also, Bran is one of the sacred 5 George has said won't die. Edit: When Jojen said "not yet", he could've also meant he doesn't know when they die; but that they don't die there. When Jojen told Bran that he saw the rebellion, Bran asked him what else he saw and Jojen replied with "the only thing that matters, you!" Conclusion, in both the show and the books, there's no proof of Jojen being able to see much past his own death; except for Bran's importance. I think the only thing Jojen could see was the future up until they get to the tree and he dies, which is why all he says is that Bran HAS to make it...to the tree. That was Jojen's job. I don't think he would see so far ahead all the way up to Bran's death. In the books, it is highly suggested Jojen was fed to Bran.
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