Exactly! These guys just keep showing the same daytime trade without really looking into it. SGA was obvious, but those picks turned into other cornerstone pieces and trade assets. The Thunder have made beautiful selections and moves with those picks. Even Gallinari was moved for additional picks after 1 year with the team.

@@camerongifford9683both teams got what they wanted though, if kawhi could stay healthy for the playoffs they probably would of probably went to the finals in 2021 and who knows in 2022

​@@Gyjtrdfhjbut everybody already knew Kawai was unreliable, and would almost never be available with consistency

@@Gyjtrdfhj Yes, they got the players they wanted, but they also wanted results they never got. No doubt they continue to kick themselves for the result of their decision.

OKC owns their 2027 pick from the Harden trade too. OKC has rights to their pick the next 3 drafts.

The Spurs were completely correct about him having a degenerative condition, but Kawhi wanted to hush it up, so he could con his way to LA and get that bag.

​@@shorewall The spurs tried to make him play so wtf are you talking about.

Kawhi Leonard is a descendent of the Deep Ones confirmed, time for a deep dive. Love the content dave

agreed. resigning KL was a bigger mistake than trading for PG.

​@@shorewalland Kawhi Leonards camp had the audacity to start the narrative that the spurs were trying to disrespect Kawhi and that they didn't understand how good he was. When in reality, the Spurs knew that his knees were a ticking time bomb and that they had to sell high. The Spurs knew Kawhi had maybe two full years of basketball left before he'd be cooked

It’s even better if the clippers suck this next season. Imagine the clippers pick falling into the top 5. 😂

GET EM!

Liar

@@michaelahurt whatever you wanna believe. I thought they should’ve just kept the core they had and waited for a star in free agency. If getting kawai meant trading your future you made the wrong decision. Shai showed a lot when he was allowed to be the guy with the clippers. Trading him was dumb.

hm, the Clips gambled on the health of Kawhi -- and then traded away SGA-n-picks for PG. Kawhi played 40% of games? That's the most of the issue -- Kawhi not playing. Now that PG looks even worse. Balmer-Clips gambled and Kawhi's health screwed the plan. (It was initially, for me, a B- trade but ends up being a C-trade)

Doc is either dumb or a liar. At the time you don't turn down Paul George and Kawhi for SGA. Nobody expected him to be one of the 5 best players in the league.

@@rundmc8628 *SGA and essentially 7 first round picks. Oh, and Gallinari. It's a lot worse when considering one of those picks became Jalen Williams. Even at the time, people were saying it was a steal for OKC.

@@ShepardDrake I'm not arguing the overall trade. I agree it was horrible for the Clips. I'm just saying Doc trying to act like he wanted to stop the trade because of SGA either makes him stupid then or a liar now. Kawhi was just coming off of a Lebron/Jordan - like playoff and Finals run and he wasn't coming unless they made the trade for PG. Nobody would have valued SGA over the 2 of them at the time.

​@@rundmc8628 Where else was Kawhi going? Lakers, nope. Toronto of course not.

@@deljay1840 Not sure why you're getting hung on that detail but none of that matters. What matters is he forced the Clippers hand to trade for PG and it worked. But I'm not really concerned about that aspect of it.

I couldn’t know it would be this bad but I thought it was one of those ‘are you sure about this?’ and ‘you’d better be right’ kind of trades.

Which is why Lebron was pushing so hard for the season not to be cancelled.

Hindsight is 20/20 like a mf....Sga was a good young player.... Nobody saw him turning into this....pg was 3rd in MVP that year...the trade was a no brainer at the time

Seriously Like in six years the same people who are praising Minnesota will say how stupid the Dillingham trade was when SA has a two top 5 picks Yes. It's a risk to trade draft picks. You still do it every time if the payoff is a title I swear people just want every team to sit and wait and hope lightning strikes and they draft Curry, Klay and Draymond

That’s life. If you roll the dice and win you’re a visionary. If you lose, you’re a punchline and you get roasted long after you’re dead.

They were because they took him from the lakers

Stop It had the potential to be bad and everyone was hyper aware of that because of the Nets-Celtics but it ended up going about as bad as possible. And the biggest reason anyone thought that is because the Clippers are cursed.

Yeah, that one was just cheap, and then he went and won an MVP.

No #1 is the KG/Pierce trade #2 is the Harden trade The Barkley trade ... Hornacek was an All-Star while Lang and Perry were starters. That's fine. And they were already a bad team. If you mean just the net result -- yeah they ended up giving Barkley away for nothing. Perry was traded for Derrick Coleman who left as a free agent. Hornacek was traded for Jeff Malone and BJ Tyler who were waived. Lang was waived. But the Barkley trade basically led to Allen Iverson four years later

@michaelahurt I'll take KG and Pierce on the decline over Hornacek, Perry and Lang all day every day.

@@thomascrowniii1693 KG and Pierce were clearly washed by that point. Trading those draft picks was reckless

@michaelahurt Hornacek wasn't an all-star for the Sixers and Lang and Perry were washed in their primes. The Sixers gave up the 4th best player of the 90's.

@@thomascrowniii1693 Hornacek was an All-Star in 1992. The trade was made in the summer of 92. No he wasn't an All-Star in Philly but he was one at the time of the trade Lang was 25 and started 71 games for Phoenix. Perry was 27 and started 69 games. Again on a 53 win team. You're acting like they traded for 33 year old Kurt Rambis and 32 year old Tom Chambers. Or 30 year old two-years-from-retirement James Worthy (which LA agreed to but Philly backed out) They got three starters from a 53 win team. In terms of value in hindsight, it's definitely toward the bottom, but the worst trades are those that 1) didn't need to be made and 2) were indefensible at the time

They’re giving off real ‘I’m Bill Simmons buddy, so I’m a podcaster’ vibes. No research.

Facts, one of the worst podcast groups covering the nba

They will cry out, "Save us!" And Sam Presti will look down on them and say, "No."

All sales final! 🤣😂

Overreaction, if kawhi could actually stay healthy for once the clippers would of went to the finals by now, especially 2021