Owning an FP Journe watch is my final grail

The Chronoetre Bleu is so popular, FP Journe actually requires you to fill out an application! Thanks for another informative and well presented video.

I really enjoy your channel. You're clearly highly knowlegeable but 'wear your expertise lightly'! Most refreshing and informative!

Love the clock! Some of my dealers gave me various advertisement clocks for Audemars, Blancpain, etc. Those things have been going for crazy prices at recent auctions. Great video, as always.

I am a new subscriber and catching up on previous episodes. Such a gentle approach. Marvellous.

Oooh nice! I love these

Good video. Thanks, Bill.

Another interesting episode Bill, love the wall clock, if i had the resources, i would love a F P Journe... Beautiful Watches. Thanks Bill for sharing....

Hi Bill, thanks for sharing, the Boutique special edition watches were made every time they opened a new boutique, i.e. the Byblos was made for the opening of the Beirut Boutique. Byblos being an very ancien city where the alphabet was spread to the Mediterranean. Later on the Greeks took it and modified it and after that the Roman who gave us our alphabet. The Chrono Bleu is the cheapest of the Souverain collection thus its popularity, the waiting list is about 18 months, which explains why it is dearer than the Chrono. Souverain on the used market. The experience of buying a watch from Journe Boutique is like no other. I couldn’t agree more, owning a high end watch is not necessary, but the satisfaction on wearing a Journe on your wrist is a complete different feeling. Rolex is many steps lower in my opinion. Great vid as always. Thanks again Bill.

so touching for an excellent video

Excellent vid Bill as always! Looking dapper in the suit👌🏻 Best, Hisham.

Yah, my new F. P. Journe is a bit large but I think with a black horween strap it will wear smaller. (Another high-value video, Bill. Thank you!)

Hey Bill, Nice clock. My coworker wears an Invicta about the same size.

congrats on you Jorune! I'd like to add one "artisan" type watch brand that is a little more affordable... Dornbluth. made by one watch maker and 2 "assistant" watch makers. I use quotations because the other 2 are also master watch makers. runs around 4k and up. anyway, yeah, I'd love to own a FP Journe one day... especially the chronometre bleu. souveraine line is exceptional!

I just love F.P. Journe. These smaller brands like F.P. Journe, Laurent Ferrier, H. Moser & Cie, Grönefeld, etc have some beautiful stuff

Those used Blues are listed for 40k at Chrono 24 now-a-days (Summer 2019). I should have run out and bought one when you made this video.

Just discovered your channel. Loved the video and I never thought about supporting someone that is CURRENTLY making timepieces, instead of a Breguet or Patek or whatever. I love your watch (PLATINUM!), but unfortunately I have already retired and a new watch isn't in the budget. My meager collection consists of a TAG/Heuer Carrera and an Oris Sporty Elegance (I think), both purchased back in the 1990's. I am going to investigate that quartz watch you mentioned by F.P. Journe.

'Whatever the price bracket' there will be someone out there that'll purchase the watch and say that it's worth every cent. If not me, 'perhaps you' but, someone. "just wish it was me" :) As always, thank you for your tireless work Bill in producing these great videos!

Great video Bill, i salute you on your new FP Journe wall clock, looks fantastic. i really love the deisgn, metals, and movements from FP Journe, but the prices are out of my league at the moment, but i think a good step before getting a FP Journe, is getting an A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 or a 1815. Actually my second grail watch after the Zeitwerk is the Resonance. I think on a budget, a pre-owned Parmigiani Fleurier is the best way to get high horology. Best, Abdul

love your work ! would love to maybe connect on a quick zoom to vent a bit and maybe get some guidance as im ready for the move into fpj

love the content!

Ok I did not see that coming. I thought it was a watch. That is so cool.

this video quickly got me into f.p. journe

Hi there Bill, just watched your video and I am considering an FP Journe. I was going to spend $10,000 on a Dornblueth in house and I though maybe to put it towards a Journe. However, I am also not sure on the Journe, if it will be worth the $20,000. By the way, the Byblos Blue Model you talked about is a Boutique edition from the 10th boutique opened my Journe in my country . I live in Lebanon. Thanks for the enlightenment. You always end up doing our (Watch Geeks) home work.

Each watch are an art form, some manufacturers orient their marketing for the masses, F.P. Journe is a niche market BUT appropriated buy so many. The work which goes into each watch is mind blowing ❤️👍👌 Good luck finding a bracelet for the big one😜, you should put it in the background of your KZfaq office👍

Bill, this is exactly what I am looking for.👍😊

Great video! Btw I think he only makes rose gold and platinum (no white gold, sort of to make a difference between his models!). And that clock, I would love to get one... pretty sure wasn’t easy to find! Thanks again

They do the "boutique" ones to try and keep the secondary in check. He doesn't want people,(flippers), to walk in, by a watch then double their money 1/2 a block down the street. That is why the pre owned cost olny 2000 less than a brand new.

I love the Havana, I am thinking of getting one. Great video Sir...

I just love journe.

Thanks for this info. Very helpful. I don't think the Havana CS is a boutique model because I'm being offered one by my AD. But I can't find info on it online. Can you tell me more about the Havana dial CS? What are they going for aftermarket now?

Very nice one Bill.

Good evening Mr. Sanders, first of all I would really say thank you for all your incredible work on horology. My question: do you know if any of F.P.Journe watches use base material like silicon, especially for springs? I think that silicon surely owns a high level of physics features, but is not appropriate for a long lifetime watches like these should assure. Silicon is strictly connected with computer development, and for my standpoint it is a transient material that in the next 30-40 years, most likely will disappear. Thank you in advance for your availability. Cheers from Florence, Italy 👍

Great Video Bill, thank you! One question, If money isnt a factor, do you like the CS or the Octa Automatique Reserve with the big date?

Well you sold that to me, I'll take a platinum one please ^^ I don't have a platinum watch but platinum is a great material, very hard to work, high melting point and tough material. Not that I have a tantalum watch either but I have no experience in that regard so the idea has yet to grab hold of me. The trouble is we all have finite resources and cannot have them all so we need to chose our priorities and you make a good case for the FP Journe, no better example of master horologists work makes better sense.

Bill, Thanks for this video. I have been wrestling with myself over the purchase of a FPJ Chronometre Souverain 40mm in platinum for several months because I am buying it second-hand and the market is about double the retail at this point. So, watching your video today, it looks soooooo dated when you talk about prices. Nevertheless, today I made the deal to acquire the CS with the gold dial and raised numerals carved out of the dial and ruthenium-coated. This version came out in 2014, but was not mentioned in your overview. (Hodinkee's Clymer reviewed it.) I have assembled my collection with an eye towards whether I love the piece and not based at all on whether it was a good investment. Unfortunately, this watch is so expensive now that I had to consider the financial risk I was taking and I have determined that even though FPJ timepieces have jumped in value tremendously in the past few years, the value will likely not decline because they are truly like rare works of art available from the artist while he is still alive. You are not the only collector who has compared Journe to Picasso, and this was a factor in my final decision. Thank you again, Jim

Hi I’m looking for a piece hopefully not at an absurd price. Around USD10k plus. Which model would you recommend?

3:20 the problem I have with the Picasso analogy, is this company is still going to be cranking out watches after he passes. Picasso paintings stopped production when Pablo died.

Amazing video, I'm new to your channel but I really appreciate the way you go and how much you share in term of knowledge. I'm contemplating the buy of an FP Journe Chronomètre Souverain or maybe blue. I would like your opinion o' one thing if I may : how do you see the market and the brand itself reacting to an hypothetical disparition of FP Journe himself? Do you think the brand will sustain that? How about pre-owned market prices? (I deeply hope that it does not happen anytime soon but that's in my mind so I share)

That Holland and Holand version... oh my god

am glad that I own the octa havana

Grand Sonnerie is my grail but i can settle for the Piaget Grand Sonniere that Francois Paul made as a freelance watchmaker for them. The 1996P caliber

Wow , you really don’t get the feel for the size of these until they are on the wrist, Beautiful watch Bill, just can’t see how the difference in the prices when they all have the same movement?

Minimum recommended wrist size for the one you put on the wall here?

Just adore the F. P. Journe. I have a Fortis, it’s good Swiss watch...it’s not as imposing or has the quality of course of a Journe, but..... to be honest though, my modest Citizen Solar, Khaki, with alloy holes in the khaki band is unique. I think solar watches seem magical. You know, it can be off your hand for ever and still be going as long as it has artificial light ( doesn’t have to be sunlight). It can outlive me, it probability will, without any maintence, isn’t that magical. I can’t leave my mechanical auto off my hand longer than for say, 48 hours...It stops, and any quartz battery watch eventually stops and isn’t environmentally suitable. Think of all those quartz watch batteries in the world being unnecessarily replaced every two years or so. It’s as if Solar watches have come from another world, a great world. There’s plenty to love in a modest solar watch, it is wonderful tech too, sort of like a Journe. And my Citizen keeps wonderful time.

Great video Bill . How would you rank the Journes ? Which ones would you stay away from. Which ones are least popular, most popular. Thanks

You can't get a chrono bleu anywhere, and the one available on second hand market are above 35k USD

The Bleu is 39mm the other two are 40mm, and Journe does not use white gold for any of his cases. Platinum, red gold & tantalum for the CS. Theses are now all trading way over retail, particularly the Bleu 💉

Hey Bill , Just dropped by to say hi , and good bye, I’ve been sick for about 4 months or so , I was telling people something was wrong, but they just didn’t want to hear or didn’t care , I finally ended up going to the emergency room twice explained I was having pain in a circle around my chest and stomach, at the hospital they took an X-ray and took blood both times they sent me home with a clean bill of health? Well about a week after my last visit to the ER at about one in the morning I decided to have a couple peanut butter cookies and chocolate milk to push it down , about an hour after that I started getting stuff shooting up in my throat, finally some shot out of my mouth , then I got nauseous and went into the bathroom to throw up , well I was puking pure blood , I threw up about 3 times and the blood was getting worse,so I yelled to my wife , and she got her Mom to run me to the hospital, I had to stop and throw more blood up all the way , by this time I’m getting week , I had to go through hell trying to get admitted, she gave me a puke bag to fill as I’m about to pass out from loss of blood , she wanted the I dotted, then she tells me to go in the waiting room ? I almost went out , then the next day after the tests. They should have done a week earlier! They come back and tell me that I have esophagul cancer ! And it has spread to my lungs and liver ? Sorry about the long boring story Bill , I guess I’ll never get my grail watch , God Bless you Bill , and maybe a prayer my way wouldn’t hurt , I’ll send you one Bill , 🙏🏻

Where did you get the clock ⏰

Bill is going flava flav with the f p journe ! The gold mechanism in a watch that big must weight a ton, time to hit the gym and strengthen your yolk and abs

Where can I get one of these? Just received my F.P. Journe Octa Perpetual 42mm rose gold. O my God!!!!

The one should be called the dart board ? Again same movement for the special addition, but I’m guessing the prices are through the roof , now gun metal ? H n H sell some very very high end weapons, but they are usually done in some really out of this world engravings, I wonder why they didn’t do anything like that on the watch ? That would at least help with the price of the watch , gun metal just isn’t doing it for me , I’ve had some nice weapons and my one rifle I took hunting and there was a light snow ,after I was done hunting I put it in my gun sack and went home , got a call to do something and forgot to wipe my weapon Down, the very next day I opened the sack and my rifle had rusted right through the bluing and this was no cheap weapon, so would that happen to a watch with gun metal if it got wet ? I think Rich Mille makes a watch out of meteorite steel? And charges let’s just say you could probably buy a dozen or more FPS for the price , isn’t gold from outer space and just as old ? Make that 6 dozen

$20,000 sounds reachable until i convert to nz money,then double the price 😢😢

What is the award he is mentioning in the beginning? Is it a prestigious award for outstanding brands every year?

Hi Bill I am torn between the Journe Chronometre Souverain Havana and the Octa Lune Havana. The price difference is quite huge they look the same apart from the additional date and moon face. It’s also another half extra in price. Which one should I get? Which one is easier to sell on the market if I wish to move on?

It's pleasure so it's very much allowed and even highly recommended for good health. Everyone knows that pleasure puts the doctor away, right ?

Dear Bill, I am a young collector and I love to pass by the Journe AD and try on some watches. I would love to get myself a platinum chronomètre souverain like this one but I’ve heard from people online that Journe watches are unreliable and have many faults (of course this is not what I hear at the AD). I would like to know your thoughts on this as I realize that the AD would surely not mention problems with their watches but there are also many people online who like to talk badly about things they cannot afford. Have you had any problems with your Journe watches or know people who have, and would you recommend me getting one? Keep making these interesting videos and I wish you the best, Matthieu

That's the Green Giant watch. Why you are hanging it on the wall?

2018 - $22 000/ 2022 - $120 000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice video! Is that an Apple Watch on your right hand? I often wear my Apple watch on one hand and my mechanical watch on other hand. Do you?

F.P. Journe better in your view then A Lange Soehne ?

Keep in mind FP Journe Service is every 4 years not 5 and price is 2300-2400 even on these entry level ones.

You are gonna have a hard time finding a leather strap for that big boy...

Iam not sure what "Realms" your in. But it cant be the same one as me, I'd like to consider 20 or 30 thousand entry level. Lol, but I think iam the exception," one must know to whom one speaks". And your audience is in a different league, i must've fell in the back door. Lol

What about L.leroy Observatoire Chronomètre watch

A lucky family member will inherit and continue on the tradition in your name, some day. Not to be overly morbid etc ....

can you buy a new FP. Journe for $22K?

Is he wearing an Apple watch?

So the less iconic and complex piece sells for more money because it's more popular. I feel my sanity slipping away....

lol The question and purpose is - how much time do you have left in your life? You better investigate the claims of Jesus while you still have time . He said 'No man comes unto the Father except through me'.