Thanks for all the kind things you said about my edit 🙌🏼 I really appreciate doing a full review. I’ve read a lot of feedback and I’m so grateful because I get to learn better and more effective ways to tell a good story. Thank you!

I am so excited to watch this. Disney should pay this man, though, likely, they’ll either shut him down or try to sue his ass off.

biggest thing i'm happy about is that the cut made Kenobi the main character instead of focusing so much on Reva

Something as simple as opening the movie with Kenobi vs. opening with the inquisitors was so impactful towards making it feel like obi-wan’s story, just a great example of how important editing is to the process.

Going in I had realistic expectations of this series due to Disney Star Wars output. Overall I think it was worthwhile to do but I wondered even before it came out if it would have been better to change this once movie into a series back into an extended streaming movie. The major structural change I would have made is getting rid of Part IV (which is really, really ineptly put together) and ending Reva's story on Jabiim. This cut does the more important one and ends Reva's story far stronger. The whole Reva on Tatooine makes no sense because it has Obi-Wan fail to protect Luke, leaves Reva alive which is not only ludicrous due to her injuries but also to Vader who makes a point of finishing his enemies off not to mention how can Obi-Wan legitimately allow the family to stay on Tatooine? They are going to place complete faith in a crazed killer like Reva just because she feels sorry for herself? What if she changes her mind? It's too much of a risk to stay on Tatooine at this point.

I saw the Patterson Cut the week it came out and it was great!!! It fit cannon well, and th pacing was good. Disney need to hire this guy!!! I had no desire to watch the full series after the reviews I’ve seen. I’m so glad it made it palpable to watch!

As cool as Duel of the Fates and Battle of the Heroes are as tracks, I think Anakin’s Dark Deeds should’ve been the track used for Vader and Kenobi’s duel, at least for the first half

I don't mind it being a show, it's just a shame that ep 2-4 are agressively mid. Had they not been I would have little to complain about.

I was talking to my brother the other day about this, and I think the final fight between Kanobi and Vader should have been on Ilum! Think about it, first and of all it's the perfect mirror setting to their last battle. Before Anakin was filled with fire and rage, and now he's filled with cold detachment. There could have been some amazing wide shots of the two fighting over ice ridges, and it would be the first proper fight to take place in a cave which is something new. I could also tie in with all the shots they did in Kanobi with Vader burying him and then having all the rocks flung at Vader. Not to mention that we know they were already working on Star Killer base in the near future!

Look; duel of the fates is awesome. My second favorite John Williams tune ever in fact... but it was written for a specific scene with a specific theme running through it, hence the name. So it doesn't serve much to a scene 30 years later when anakin's fate has very much been decided. That said, I would absolutely have gone with Battle of the Heroes again for the finale duel in the show and leave duel of the fates as it's own singular piece

I loved the show. But the edit is really good too. I love Kenobi as a character and I loved seeing him get his own story. I appreciate that its not everyone's cup of tea, but I loved it.

Them tossing Reva's backstory in up-front like they did in the series was frankly one of the biggest criticisms I had. There's just no mystery or nuance to it, just 'this is exactly what happened to this character to make her a bad guy'. The way it was cut in later makes the twist feel so much more earned and interesting. Any good villain needs intrigue.

Thanks for this, I probably wouldn't have heard about the Patterson cut otherwise. I appreciate your analysis here and am looking forward to watching the edit... when it finishes downloading. 😏

Pentex Productions also made a good edit. He makes quite a few interesting creative choices during the climax which I found improved the final fight. Also The Matrix Revolutions Decoded by Jarick is a fantastic fan edit and one of my favourites. It streamlines both Matrix sequels into one narrative and it works really well. The ending is slightly rushed but overall it's an excellent viewing experience. So many subplots are trimmed or removed. Characters now live and die based on the changes in this edit and it's like watching these movies for the first time again. It's all the interesting philosophy, barely any exposition, all the great action, sci fi concepts and spectacle and none of the guff. Except the cake scene is still in there. Make of that what you will. Only real flaw is that the Merovingian isn't as deep as he is in the theatrical cut, and is more of an "Odyssey"-esque harbinger character as a pitstop along the journey. This edit pays homage a lot to monomythic storytelling like the first movie but really leans into it this time around.

I thought the tv show was mid but a decent addition to the lore. But this made it much better and I have grown to really appreciate it better now. I love how he cut it down to what really mattered. Great cut thanks for the content

This and The Hobbit have been blessings for the community. This also can be applied to the MCU, not just correcting negligence, but for creative expression. I'm sure someone can make a kick ass three hour cut of The MCU's Phase One (Capt. Marvel, IronM. I & II, First Avenger, Thor, and The Avengers) or, even better, three hour cuts of Rami's Spider-man and Webb's Amazing Spider-man.

Cool video! Adding the duel of the fates theme doesn't sit right with me because Duel of the Fates was a duel that changed everything in Star Wars on a story level. Whereas this duel between Obi-Wan and Vader is somewhat pointless and unimportant on a plot and character level. Duel of the fates would be too dramatic. Battle of the heroes would work well for me in that scene tho. I wonder what a noir/black and white version of Kenobi would be like. The series doesn't really use colour in a very emotional way so I think putting it in black and white, you wouldn't lose much storytelling (tho you'd have to edit the contrast levels so you could still see what was going on) and it would give the series a bit more visual charm like it's a lost, shaky, old Documentary that has been recovered and slots between ROTS and ANH.

It'd be interesting to see how someone who hasn't watched the show reacts to this cut

I love your videos cuz I have an hour long drive to work, and listening to your video essays about things I like really helps pass the time

I was thinking about editing it into one supercut of all movies but there really wasnt enough good footage to go off of imho, lmao.

I definitely think the pacing/padding was the biggest issue with the show's watchability. But ever since your previous video on the show, I can't get the possibilities with Qui-Gon out of my head. His thoughts on Anakin's fall, how that affects Obi-Wan's interactions with him, the conversations they could've had, etc. There's still a lot of missed potential that remains unexplored that can't be fixed with trimming+music alone. "Less plot, more character" sums it up, I think - not that we don't get some of that, but...yeah, could've been more. It is titled "Obi-Wan Kenobi", after all. Off topic, but since you brought it up, they *did* use the Raimi theme in No Way Home: when Sandman is cured, and when Otto sees Tobey again. We also hear TASM1's theme when Andrew talks to Max. Not sure if I'm missing any other examples. While I'm more positively inclined on the film overall, I agree it could've done with _more_ of that music. We get a great rendition of the MCU Spidey theme when they're all swinging together (and in general Tom's theme is used well in this film, IMO), but no real "action-y" uses of the other two Spideys. Definitely would've made the final fight better, IMO - especially hearing bits of their respective themes in sequence, if that could be made to work. Personally, I think it could've done with some small musical cues when they first appeared, as well.

I think the Pentex cut did a good job at cutting and editing the show to fit a movie, including removing most of episode 4 cleanly.

I love seeing your videos man!!! Always have an instant nostalgic feel to it with you speaking and that music playing!!! Any word on when mom video will be out? 😅

Overall, I think that you did a really good job! The editing is really good, but I feel like some scenes could have been a little bit longer. And some transitions were a bit odd. But it is still really good. The way you edited the ending fight between Darth Vader and Obi-wan was amazing. It really brought more emotion to the story. But I did notice you left the scene where Obi-Wan used the force to lift rocks and hit Darth Vader with them. I really wish that this could be in theaters. It would be a fun experience.

I’ve seen the Patterson cut and recently the Pentex cut, and while I prefer both of these cuts VASTLY over the series, the pentex cut is far superior from an economic story telling perspective. Scenes were moved around to make sense and the entire sub-plot of Leia getting captured again (the entire 4th episode) was cut out. Plus the music was almost completely reworked to add more Of that John Williams spirit. It’s a lean 2 hour cut and makes way more storytelling sense and cuts out the things that bother you (and me). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fduhhNSqvbKmZHk.html

Man that's was so good, glad to see it getting proper coverage by this channel

If it were up to me, I would have cut Reva out entirely lol. But as technology (CGI, deep-faking, de-aging) gets better, I wish some live-action CW flashbacks could be added in...because isn't that what the essence of the series was supposed to be? The relationship between Obi-wan and Anakin? And I also thought Obi-wan failing to mention Padme in that last fight was a missed opportunity. And Qui-gon...they were teasing his appearance (voice or otherwise) so hard and he didn't show up until the very end. If even his voice had been present to give Kenobi the motivation to face Vader once more after getting wrecked in episode 3, it would have made the transition between the guy who was barely able to hold his saber to the Jedi master that was pummeling Vader that much more seamless.

I love this channel more and more. Also your engagement with commenters is next level. Even when comments are harsh. Please please keep making vids.

I also made my own version of the film cut. I basically made it so Reva died after fighting Vader. I shortened Leia's kidnapping. I didnt change the music, it's fine. Lola is taken from Leia in episode 2. Episode 4 practically does not exist. A lot of scenes are shortened and some fights have been re-edited so that kenobi's blaster accuracy isn't nearly as awful. Leia is only caught and rescued once.

This re edit of the Kenobi series it was inspired me to create my own fan made movie.... Which has gone through 6 re edits and at this point I'm really not sure what else could be improved. I hope it's good, it's being released Sunday.

I have just watched both. The Patterson cut is far superior and I now consider the Patterson cut my cannon to hen it comes to kenobi. Well done.

My friend actually did his own edit of the series and cut the whole Leia being captured a second time completely out

Its sad the link to view it was taken down! Gutted, i was so excited

I thought it worked so much better in movie form. his edit is brilliant.

Can we appreciate his stance on motifs and music? A good recent example is in Multiverse of Madness when the X-Men animated theme played when Professor X came in. Everyone in my theater lost it when that happened

There's another cut, a bit shorter, made by Pentex Production (KZfaq channel). I haven't seen the one described here yet, but the Pentex cut was pretty good and far more enjoyable than the series. Notably, it completly cuts out episode 4, and that change alone suggests to me that it is even better. He also deaged Hayden Christensen in his scene with Obi-Wan, and rescored the final fight with Duel of the Fates as well. He also had it to begin with the Inquisitors scene, with just a shot of Tatoine from Episode I before, so that the movie starts in space like all the others. Overall a pretty solid work, I am curious to see if Patterson did it better.

I feel they will make this series turn movie into a straight up RATED R style, showing that someone must make a progress that grows with the audience, and this is the example. I can't wait for this Movie Edited!

Second season... They better show him grilling that sand-tuna he was carving up in the first episode.

says you cant change how it looks and now Trials of the Master exists lol. No animosity here just making a good joke! Great Video man!

I just watched the Patterson Cut and its AWESOME. Would never watch the old version again. This is the OBI WAN i have been looking for.

Welp. Can’t wait to watch this now!

It’s a travesty that this show is “just okay”. This was Disney’s chance to commit to something special and they played it safe yet again

Two things about the edit I didn't like:. - While I agree that most of the music in Obi-Wan was very subpar, I count the final battle music to be an exceotion. If was great and I think I preferred it. I mean Dual of The Fates will always be the GOAT but the new theme was great and fitting. - He edited out Reeva mentioning Anakin by name the first time she met Obi-Wan, thus creating a plot hole when Obi-Wan uses this info to guess she was a former temple youngling and try to make a deal to cooperate. This cut was unnecessary and could be kept it without changing anything. But other than these two issues, I found it to be a great cut overall and editing work. Massive props to the guy.

I haven't watched Kenobi and now that my exams ended I'll probably end up watching it so Should I watch the Vader Kenobi parts like the last few episodes or the whole show? Or now watching the video the Pattinson cut

Does anyone know where you can watch the movie now that it got taken down ?

Watch Kenobi was so frustrating, just smallish minor tweks could have made it so much better.

I really liked the Paterson edit and its honestly baffling how he was able to incorporate nearly every arc from the series into his edit. However I did feel a bit rushed in certain scenes for time and needed more room to breathe. This would drastically rearange the story beats, but frankly we shouldnt have Leia get kidnapped twice in one movie, instead have it happen once and cut the Fortress Inquisitorius scenes. The location was really cool to see, but bogs down the story a bit much. Cutting that would allow some scenes to play out longer and help the pacing. After Kenobi is burned and in the bacta, immediately have vader on his way to jabim and let Patterson's edit play out as it did from there. Again he did an amazing job and his work in editing and adding additional scenes is remarkable. He did a fantastic job keeping nearly all the beats. If someone didnt watch kenobi, Patersons edit would get them right up to speed and in a delightful manner.

The Obi-Wan Vs Vader fight would have had an insane reaction in theaters

I re-edited Kai Patterson's edit down from 2.5hrs to a 1hr23mins film. Watch on the link below. tinyurl.com/kmv6vtxr The first 20ish mins are the same and all Kai's work, then it all changes and doesn't slow down. I removed basically all the Leia scenes and there is now only 1 rescue sequence. The final fight is also all Kai's editing. All the credits remain same, with one addition 😉 Like Kai's cut, this cut is for Disney+ subscribers only. The Dropbox preview link will only show you the first 1hr. To view the full 1hr23mins, watch it using the Dropbox app or just download the video. (It's 11gb tho).

Would you do another love island analysis? This season has been insane!!

i still disagree that duel of the fates was needed for that last fight but i’m not fucking complaining

There's actually another cut of Kenobi into a movie by Pentex Productions that pretty much removes episode 4 altogether.

I misread Patterson as Pattinson and I almost leapt for joy.

“i’M nEvEr WaTcHiNg aNyThInG StArWaRs EvEr AgAiN”- you after the final episode

I'm curious what this will look like!

I very happy that he rescored the final duel to duel of the fates. Disney knew what they were doing having almost all the trailers feature a great rendition of the theme, only to bait us by having it not show up at all in the final show.

Hello i just watched this and it's was very good thnx

Intriguing

One theme that stood out as memorable was for Mapuzo. That’s more what I expected in this show from Holt.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Pentex cut of the show. I think with Patterson, he just took the material from the show and essentially reorganized it with some extra music, but with Pentex, he added some new scenes to boot. Wanna see how they compare in your eyes Also, a guy by the KZfaq name PixelJoker95 is practically remaking the show, making it almost completely different from the original. Very excited to that when he releases it!

Good to know. Thanks, pal

Yeah I do feel like the Kenobi show would have worked better as a movie, this also reminds me of a another recent mediocre SW show that would have been much better with a reordering of scenes and general edits. I feel like Book of Boba Fett would have been way better if the flashback bits were just made into Boba's story beginning and the parts that were just episodes of The Mandalorian actually be the "cut away" part, culminating in the big fight at the end where they cooperate.

THIS WAS SO GOOD! I checked out the PAT CUT and I sat for the whole thing!!!! the series was dumb.

Holy Shit, He hasn't made a video on Andor What a goat

Really love seeing any video that gives more credit to fan edits, something I think that to me is almost more interesting than watching actual movies. But a point I'll have to disagree on is your point about music. While I don't think the show has a good score either, its main theme, and the version that plays in the final vader fight is excellent because it gives Obi-Wan something he's never had: his OWN theme. I thought it was kinda generic in the first episode, but by the final one to me that main these IS Obi Wan's theme. Like Ahsoka, Leia, Vader, Kylo and Rey who all have had their own character theme, now Obi finally has one he can call his own. Like you play that main theme in a future series or something and immediately I'll know "oh shoot this has to do with Obi Wan".

Pentex productions also made a pretty good edit. Haven’t seen the Patterson edit but I have seen the pentex cut and it was great. It really should have been a film Edit: the cut I watched actually does manage to cut the 4th episode entirely and it flows way better

I tried watching it but was bothered by the low video quality. I hope he gets around (maybe asking for some help) to release a high quality encode.

This is like recycling a turd into a really gross burger. But damn, Kai did a good job either way.

is there a way to watch the patterson cut now then?

I think the show would've worked better if it spread out the structure of a movie over 6 episodes to give it more breathing room. here's what I mean. episodes 1-2 - equivalent to the first act. episodes 3-4 - equivalent to the second act. episodes 5-6 - equivalent to the third act.

first naruto now star wars i think this idea of re editing shows might catch on

i started doing the same thing right after the series ended, but then i got covid and it screwed up all my plans. my edit would have been very different though.

Watched this film yesterday. Way better than the series. It was a relief to see Obi Wan not being reduced to a bumbling side kick to Leia. As a result Leia was a far more engaging and likeable little girl. I thoroughly recommend this film edit.

I honestly wish I had watched the KPC version without ever having seen the actual show first. I liked the cut a lot, but I still had the original version in the back of my mind the whole time, so it definitely still didn't 100% land for me.

Yes this could have and should have been a kickass 2 hour movie.

I can't find this version now.

Kai did a brilliant job. To your point about episode 4's redundancy, Pentex Productions' cut completely erases Episode 4 and the Fortress. Just like you were positing. Either way, these cuts from talented folk have proven Kenobi was always going to work better as a film (or trilogy). Cheers!

where can i watch the kenobi edit?

Check out this channel for more clever scene edits - kzfaq.info

I watched the movie of Kai Patterson. 3 words: IT IS GREAT

You know, a certain video called, "How Star Wars Was Saved In The Edit" comes to mind here... I feel like the overarching problem is that Disney doesn't know how to edit.

I’ve seen an edit where they completely take out the episode where they go to the inquisitors hq and it works completely fine

Have you seen the Pantex Productions cut of Obi-Wan? If so how do you think they compare? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fduhhNSqvbKmZHk.html

sadly it has been taken down. does anyone know where to find the movie on a third partie site?

Where can I watch Pentex and Patterson cuts ?

thanks

Where can we watch that edit?

Are there other videos like this that talk about fan edits fixing problems? I know Nerdwriter1 has a great one on Passengers, but other there others that aren’t just list videos?

They really started doing better as episodes progressed but I fell like even in ep. 6 when they kept switching to the Luke chase scene with Reva was very bad.

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW TO SETUP A SPOT TO HOST EDITS. I DO A BUNCH OF EM BUT THE *one* TIME I TRIED PUTTING SOMETHING ON KZfaq I GET COPYRIGHT STRIKED

I haven't watched the show because I don't have Disney Plus. I am so happy this exists haha.

Totally agree about Reva. I felt like her character was interesting but poorly executed, imo a directing and writing issue, this really improves that.

1 thing which I think you missed on was the feeling of increased focus on Obi-Wan himself so he actually feels like the main character. In the series it feels like he's lurched from place to place to react rather than being a driving force in his own story with agency; its not great in the movie cut, but given what Kai had to work with its about as good of a job as could be done.

Star Wars rhymes - the og A New Hope was saved in the edit - perhaps Kenobi was too

I don’t think they should have worked around the re-capture of Leia because the second break-out scene is better than the first so I think they should have merged it in some way to keep the more impactful and important scenes like Kenobi’s sneak attack but also the Clone cameo

The first half of the cut is a little ham-fisted, it was cut to more plot-to-plot linearly however it's missing SW transitions which are needed and some of the old OG soundtrack appears in the first half in order to make it more 'SW' which is fine but it's a little thrown into the mix or done for nostalgia. The opening focuses on Obi-wan most which is good and reduces the Inquisitor Jedi-hunt in the beginning to something more simpler. Less running back and forth with that particular Jedi extra character. While I love the Duel of the Fates track I think for this show which it shouldn't try to be so much like the Prequels or Originals but it's own entity, I preferred the soundtrack Natalie Holt did for the show and for the final fight as it felt more emotional with hers. It's also funny how much better Reva comes off in The Patterson Cut; I liked her, but her character motivations and pacing was a little erratic in the Episodic telling. In The Patterson Cut it's much more refined, better drops of history and flashbacks intermittently at the right moments which don't show off too much and give to little. Allows her character backstory to grown in your own mind. Patterson was right about the filler in the show used a lot in the show in order to give it more time.

Just a suggestion maybe you should watch the Pentex cut done by the channel Pentex Productions it actually cuts out almost all of episode 4 and the edit is around 2 hours

I think it was far better than the actual Kenobi series. The pacing was better and it flowed better

For what I heard you saying, sounds a LOT BETTER, but still I think some of the very CORE issues this series have that keep it, MID at BEST as a whole, will be present......I wish they go with the original script that was replace.....I will like to see this cut, will google to see if I found it and give it a try.

Check out the Pantex cut!