What do you think? Is Zack Snyder's 'Watchmen' deep or dumb? And don't forget to download the MSCHF app here: mschf.com/wisecrack Thanks to MSCHF for sponsoring this video!

"You can't fight in here, this is the War Room" from Dr. Strangelove cracks me up everytime!

Is the discussion "deep vs. dumb" or "true to the original vs. unfaithful adaptation"? I had a hard time telling if you guys made that distinction at any point. You can take source material and deliver a completely different, still deep message. Deviating from the original point doesn't turn something dumb by default, the metric shouldn't be how closely it follows the comic in my opinion, but what messages it brings as its own experience.

Watchmen is one of those films that changes with my age. First saw it at 15 and liked the violence and slow mo, then at 21 and got all the pop culture references now at almost 26 figuring out the subtext and metatext. For me it’s only got better with age. I can’t wait to see how it changes in the years to come.

I watched Watchmen in the movie theater when it came out with my husband and my brother. We left the theater going "that was so dumb. what the hell did we just watch?" but as I thought about the movie over the following months, I really started to appreciate it more and more. By the time it was released on DVD I couldn't wait to watch it again, and think harder on a lot of the themes of the movie. It is still to this day one of my favorite films.

Never stop using Nic cage like a censorbar.

I didn't read Watchmen until after the movie and instead of it causing me to hate the movie, it gave me an even greater appreciation of the thing.

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is a war room!! " My God, did Kubrick knew his satire

Thank you SO MUCH for adding closed captions. As a hearing impaired person it really means everything to me when creators or viewers take the time to add them

True story: The screenplay was written by David Hayter. He’s the voice of Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid.

_"My father was a watchmaker. He abandoned it when Einstein discovered time is relative. I would only agree that symbolic clock is as nourishing to the intellect as photograph of oxygen to a drowning man."_ *~ Dr. Manhattan (Watchmen)*

The Ultimate Cut of Watchmen gives us the full experience of what the film was meant to be especially the Tales of the Black Freighter and the deleted scenes that explain a lot more about the plot and characters than the standard theatrical cut.

Opinions will always differ, but, to me, this movie is a master piece. How Zack managed to portray perfectly music and slow motion iconic scenes. This movie is dope for a depressed person, it really hits on the nostalgia and reach catharsis with the violence, showing how truly fucked up the humanity really is.

Every Wisecrack video: "Snyder Bad, Marvel Good. Shame about Disney, Here's a philosopher? " Me: "Interesting"

Who watches the watchmen? So that makes us the Watchman?

I feel like the message Alan Moore was sending was way more important than the message that the movie sent

What I like about the Watchmen movie is that it depicts the cons and PROS of a vigilante life. While the novel focuses almost entirely on the cons, the movie makes sure to include a little bit of the superheroes actually helping innocent people, acknowledging that it is a major aspect of the life (at least intention-wise), deconstruction of comic tropes or not. Realistically there would be both bad and good aspects of a vigilante life, but ultimately it's more hard than fulfilling, and the bad would most likely outweigh the good. A change from the novel to be sure, but a welcome one in my opinion. Also, Hollis Mason's death scene is cut from the theatrical version. So I don't know how fair it is to count that.

As a college kid me and my friends watched this movie mostly because of the spectacle. It was an awesome, violent comic book movie, and I couldn’t get enough. Watching it now, many of the Snyderisms of the film have retroactively made the film feel overly stylized and a little bit self indulgent. I do wonder what version we would’ve gotten if Snyder had stuck more closely to the original, but I think that movie would’ve been much too grim for average audiences. It’s a grim film as is, but it’s at least fun to look at.

"Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense."

I love the novel to death, having said that its my favorite movie ever made. So rewatchable

I loved the movie. Just rewatched it after 10 years and it’s even better now.

After the comic was released and hailed as a masterpiece, a lot of comic creators failed to see what actually made it successful (the use of structure, satire, new storytelling techniques and a narrative that worked on multiple levels). They just looked at the graphic violence, sex, antiheroes and 'adult' themes and thought "Hey, let's do more of that, it's what sells". It resulted in what we know as the Dark Age of Comics. Zack Snyder's a great visual stylist but I feel he had the same outlook as the Dark Age writers. Didn't help that he used a work of deconstruction as the thematic basis for his Superman and Batman films.

The choice to change Rorschach into the moral compass in the film legitimizes his use of violence, Therefore, undermining any attempt at subversion

I love how multiple KZfaq personalities have pointed out that Rorschach reads a far right newspaper that supported racist and bigot ideas but people are still upset about the 7th cavalry in the watchmen TV series

One thing I'll say about the depiction of violence in this film is that I think the stark contrast to how it's shown in the comics is intentional not just for style but to comment and critique pop culture (and I'm including news media under that umbrella). When you hear of someone getting stabbed, a fight happen, or someone getting raped you get graphic descriptions of the even, while a massive tragedy where a large number of people get hurt or killed the only thing you get is statistics and some shots of collapsed buildings. The reality of the situation is getting warped through how it's getting presented, through pop culture. The comic aims to portray how unstable and dangerous super heroes are, the film aims to show how super hero comics and pop culture are dangerous to our perception of reality and I think that it succeeds with flying colours

Nitpick alert: if I recall correctly, Nixon having his 3rd term was in a flashback sequence, where one of the 1985 characters mentioned having voted for Nixon “all 5 times”, which makes a bit more sense mathematically.

I think we can agree that the casting and performances were gold

Snyder: a director/writer who pushes the medium to a point where you don't know wether to agree with him or don't and you won't know until time passes by years. Disney/mcu: a paradox ready to be creative as long as you don't jump over the fence. Both have pros and cons. I'm more of a snyder fan than a MCU fan, love the MCU and hope snyder is picked to make an MCU movie.

I love how the video boils down to: If you like Alan Moore's Watchmen, this film is dumb If you like Zack Snyder's Watchmen, this film is deep You choose (Not intending this as mean-spirited or disrespectful to the creators, just a funny conclusion to land on when an opinion piece video ends with "Your opinion will be based on which version of this story you prefer". Personally, much prefer Alan Moore's version. Snyder's great with visuals but his adaptations of other people's work often feels like he skimmed the pages, picked out the bits that looked the coolest and then made it into two hours of super explody edgelord fun times)

there are always two arguments about Snyders Watchmen Ether it's "too close to the comic" and therefor not original enough ot it's "Nothing like the comic at all" and therefor he is missing the point. The irony is that while he does re-create the comic almost frame by frame (or panel by panel), the "too close to the comic" ignores Snyders own interpertations of the story, while the "Nothing like the comic" camp seems to Only focus on the changes he made. I think the "problem" with the movie is that Snyder tried to both have his cake and eat it, as he is so much of a fan for the comic that he tried the best he could to honor it visually, but he is also clever enough to know that movies and comics are two totally different mediums. Similar to how the V for Vandetta movie changes the whole point of the V for vandetta comic, but still is a good movie on its own, Watchmen the comic (in the words of Alan Moore) is a story that can ONLY be told in the medium of comics, that's why it's unfilmable, because it's impossible to translate it. You need the 9 pannel grid system, and the page by page narrative tool for the comic story to work. That is impossible to do in a movie Watchmen the Movie takes the broad elements, but instead of being a movie commenting or trying to mimic a comic, The movies is a super hero pop-culture movie making strong satire on comicbook movies as a genre in pop culture. By using familiar images from pop culture movies, the Watchmen Movie is a strong commentary (visually) on popculture superhero movies , EXACTLY the way the comic is a commentary on comicbooks. This way the adaption is aware of its own medium and isn't trying to copy the comic, but ephesises that it is its own thing. In the scenes where the "heroes" in the movie do the action scenes and the superhero landing, with the over the top slow motion isn't to add epic imagry for the sake of making it look cool. The point of making it too over the top so it becomes silly, a parody on the superheo fantasy tropes in movies in the first place. If you want to judge Watchmen the movie as deep or dumb, u need to seperate it from the comic and view it as a stand alone piece, it's more of an homage to the comic. It's independet from the comic, but it is however instead highly attached to the overal movie popculture genre of superhero movies. Evenn before the whole Cinematic Universe happened, Snyder made a meta commentary on these movies, which is to me mindblowingly well done. As if he knew how silly and dumb the genre in cinema history was and would become

Excellent video. Just discovered your channel today and what an absolute joy it is! Full of incredible content.

I think zack snyders has done a great job, and i think everyone needs to think about, this was made for people that haven't read the comic, i also think that you could enjoy the movie much more if you see the movie as a alternative version of the comic more than a direct adaptation of the comic.

How many people did it take to edit this video? Like seriously, it's REALLY good!

Zack Snyder is at this best when turning artistic sculptures into action figures.

One of my favourite movies of all time. Also it was the second superhero movie I ever saw (after Dark Knight), before I even know something like comics exist. It changed how I saw movies, not as dumb spectacle, but as something serious. Besides that it is pretty well made and certainly the best possible movie someone like Snyder could ever create.

My issues with Snyder’s Watchmen were: 1. The fighting, which you commented on. In the graphic novel the crime fighters weren’t superhuman (except Dr. Manhattan) so the fighting was gritty and realistic. The “heroes” being so good at fighting in the movie defeats the purpose and point of the graphic novel. 2. The movie telegraphs Ozymandias being the villain, it’s obvious from the beginning, whereas in the graphic novel it’s a complete surprise. 3. Lauri Jupiter was miscast and the actress was awful. Other than that it was pretty good, I didn’t even mind them taking out the giant squid.

Funny, I almost wrote my degree paper about exactly this thoughtprocess but then covered the use of violence just in the comic. For years i kinda thought that Snyder basically just threw those briliant pages of the comic on the screen and whatever got stuck to it must be at least decent, but then again, he might have a point: the comic deconstructed super hero comics and his movie deconstructed super hero movies, mostly through their violence and heroism. Also the different ending gives more meaning to the Dr. Manhattan = God-angle and i think that makes much more sense than the squid even though the squid was supposed to be over the top

The movie is very deep: 1. If viewed without having read or known there is a graphic novel behind, nobody would question it. 2. Most of the critiques do not come from how the movie unfolds the plot, characters and setting, but from comparing it with the source material and finding differences. 3. Condensing such large graphic novel in a 2 hour film cannot have the same depth, besides understanding cinema and comics are two communication methods that cannot be translated 1:1.

Just watched the movie again, and I'm gonna say its Deep. I've not a big comic book person, and the original comic is mostly lost on me outside from what I've learned through videos like this, BUT what i can say with certainty, for this movie and the HBO series, the feeling that this evokes of an almost real timeline, with mostly believably flawed characters, and the spiraling of reality in general, based on the feeling alone - this is deep.

Man. Helluva breakdown. I personally like Zak Snyder's work, and lean towards the "deep" side. All being said, I think it's just a fantastic movie. One of my favorites.

Snyder is a big Ayn Rand fan, I'm sure the turning of any negative commentary about objectivist philosophy and related subjects onto their heads within the movie was entirely intentional.

Yessss finally, i've waited for this video for so longg

very thorough, great job guys

I think you have to look at the changes partially though the lenses of Snyder's Objectivist beliefs, which lead him to agree with the Objectivist hero, Rorschach, far more than Moore every wanted you to. Also realize that Snyder said he never liked comics until he read Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. He has no personal nostalgia for the more idealistic Silver Age, he's an edgy guy making a edgy deconstruction of a genre. For the record, his best film remains the opening 10 minutes of Dawn of the Dead.

For the whole quarantine, I've been enjoying my lunch with Jared "It can only be Jared"

Hello Darkness my old friend

It's deep because I never knew the comic before the film and yet, the idea's and story really stuck with me.

I first read and watched Watchmen as a teenager in highschool. I was just getting into comics. Watching this vid as an adult made me realize what point that Alan Moore was trying to make and how he'd facepalm if he saw my 16 year old self dress up as Rorschach for Dress as Your Rolemodel Day in highschool. I glossed over how misanthrope this man is and just celebrated how he'd act on his anger against people I deemed "evil". I think Snyder's version making him the audience surrogate, as you pointed out, made me see him that way. I'm pretty down to re-read and watch his with my s/o since we both got into comics around the same time. Thanks for the vid, Jared.

Something that jumps out at me now all of a sudden, even though I had all pieces before is the Rorschach issue. The comic has Rorschach as a tragic-yet-largely-sympathetic Byronic hero with serious issues with a side of sociopathy kept in check by an arbitrary moral code, who keeps talking about making no compromises but is not as immune to hypocrisy as he likes to pretend. The movie version is a jerk with a heart of gold at worst, to the point that parts of the fandom who only saw the movie ended up thinking that the TV series had betrayed the source material by making the Rorschach copy-cats unsympathetic (I'm not sure whether the series betrays the source material in other ways, not having watched it, but this point came up all the way back when the first trailer dropped). An interesting point to note is that, as mentioned in the video, Rorschach was originally written as a satire of an Ayn Rand-based hero of Steve Ditko's creation. A similar case is seen with Snyder's Batman, who seems to be based largely on the Dark Knight Returns version of the character. Frank Miller's Batman is, similarly to Rorschach, a morally ambiguous and tragic hero written, and Miller cites Ayn Rand as an influence in the Dark Knight Returns. Snyder's Batman also departs from the source material's version in coming off as a jerk with a heart of gold. At the root of it, Snyder seems to have trouble portraying morally conflicted heroes despite his evident desire to build movies around them. His difficulty in portraying shades of gray results in heroes that look like moral paragons with moody personalities whenever he tries. The Man of Steel has him doing the same with Superman, but here, instead of coming off as brighter than intended, Supes' moment of moral challenge and his response are over in a flash, and while we intellectually understand he's conflicted about having killed Zod since he breaks down in tears, we aren't given a chance to really empathize with the conflict since it goes straight from "Give up!" to "Never." to neck-snap.

The Comics Code Authority wasn’t a government agency. It was a group of comic publishers that self-censored, like the MPA and its movie ratings system. Also, the Golden Age sold the most comic books at newsstands, by far. The Silver Age was not the most popular.

I am watching this on March 30th, 2021. Seeing their sponsor makes the beginning of the video hilarious to me.

Hell Yeah! I'm Loving the shoutout to one of my favorite video essayists!

are they so mutually exclusive? as the taco meme says: "Why not both?"

While I've always loved the movie,it's very clear that Zack didnt really "get" the story and tries to make the superheroes look cool and edgy badasses which is the exact opposite of what Moore wanted. The movie is what you get when a story written by an anarchist/communist gets adapted into film by an objectivist/Randian. Making Rorsache the cool nihilist hero instead of a ultra-conservative bigot lunatic who smelt like a hobo has caused a LOT of people to worship Rorsache in the way you never could for comicbook Rorsache who is mostly a scumbag(atleast scummier than the others) Making the heroes have actual super strength like being able to punch through walls or break bones also misses the point of the comicbooks. I understand the changes and why Zack wants to make it more "cinematic" but it falls short in many small and big ways

I enjoyed the Watchmen graphic novel and haven’t watched the movie yet, always heard mixed reviews. This was such a helpful breakdown of the differences and the themes. Hopefully I can check it out to form my own thoughts. Thanks WiseCrack!

I really enjoy your tendency to make an argument even against yourself. You do a really good job of falling avoiding falling into the "fallacy fallacy": the fallacy of arguing a point better despite potentially being wrong or lacking the majority of the merits.

I really dont think the movie is pro nostalgia when it also shows dr.manhatten obliterating vietnamese soldiers in the war, or sally jupiter being raped by the comedian and then being happy nostalgic about it decades later. The movie doesnt turn pro nostalgic just because superheroes maybe really are that strong, it means that you have to view the events critically even IF superheroes are "super". Its like you have to view politics critically even if they present a populist spectacle at the forefront. I just saw all of this as the movie not holding my hand throughout everything....Also this is more a "Whats the difference" than a "deep or dumb" Video tbh

One second videos was enough to describe the movie. Masterpiece!

I think Snyder made a legitimate and well-intentioned attempt at updating and working with the source material while adding his own flair. His failing comes from the fact that he's Zack Snyder, not Allen Moore.

I actually thought making Dr. Manhattan the scapegoat was a smarter decision than the random monster in the comic

I first saw the movie without any kind of prior knowledge of the graphic novel, or -for that- without any kind of previous exposure to the darker, moral ambiguous themes about superhero genre. It was quite literally the first time I was exposed to those kind of themes and questions regardind the superhero genre alltogheter. From that perspective, I'd say it is a fairly deep movie: it served the purpose of raising questions, at the very least, wich later prompted me to go and search for the graphic novel and for different takes in the genre. So, if it is deep or dumb, I'd say it depends on the context and the background of the viewer. If you are, or were, like me, it was deep enough to open your eyes, give you some food for thoughts and make you understand than you CAN read/watch anything regarding superheroes from a deeper point of view. If you insted had prior knowledge, have a critical mindset well established and are able to see through the messages proposed, well... I'd say it's fair to consider it pretty dumb.

It really depends on how much stock you put on Moore. Moore never truly grasped why Rorshach was one of the more popular characters in the story. Chalking it up to "Fascism is Sexy". Where Rorshach is a character that acts out of principle. Refusing to compromise even when facing a being that could be considered a god, and is by many in the setting of the story. An act that is truly heroic. Even if Rorshach was flawed. Actually going against Moore's intended point. We still refer to Veidt as the villain. Watchmen was also a critique of Objectivism. Mainly because Moore disagreed with Rand on the aspect of Reality. Where Rand argued that reality was objective, and not up for debate. Moore would argue otherwise. And intending Rorshach to represent that way of thinking as a refute. Actually ended up reinforcing the idea. Most interpretations of the work still maintain that Veidt was wrong in his actions. Even if they think the end result was worth it.

I few months before Watchmen began Mark Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme ended it's 12 issue run for Marvel which had similar themes and tones and it's storyline was echoed many years to come in such tales as The Dark Knight Returns, Civil War, and of course The Watchmen.

Funny that Snyder followed this up with Sucker Punch, one of the most underrated movies that everyone thinks (or at least thought) was dumb but is, in fact, incredibly smart.

Only Zack Snyder could take material that is intrinsically deep and make it seem dumb by leaning too heavily on his ‘style over substance’ style.

The moment when youtube video essays reffers youtube video essays. Here's a cheers to Baudrillard!! haha

I feel like the more video's I see that dunk on this movie, the more I love it.

One small but very telling point is the meaning of the title in both versions. In the comic it references Juvanal's Satires to comment on the nature of power in a world with "superheroes". In the movie it's literally the name of their superhero group.

The fact that it's been over 10 years and we're still talking about Snyder's Watchmen. Means it's deep 🥴

This movie is one of my all time favorites

Love that Twin Peaks quilt on the wall!

The violence in the comic was cutting edge for the time. Just like the violence in Snyder's film there's nothing wrong with stylizing the violence for cinematic spectacle. The directors cut is a classic enough said.

I'd love to see a Philosophy of Lemony Snicket! Specifically the Unauthorized Autobiography.

A great film and great adaptation. One of my fave comic book movies for sure.

Love that Twin Peaks blanket! The Owls are not what they seem.

What I love about this movie is how despite Alan Moore trying to mock Steve Ditko's objectivist philosophy through Rorschach he only allowed his ideas to gain more followers. Goes to show that Ditko's transcendental ideology extends past an Author's criticism. After the way Stan Lee ruined his life and stole his work, it feels almost like an enlightened redemption.

considering how deep this channel has dived and discussed this film. the fact that it keeps coming back up here. This is a media style intended to create doubt, discussion, debate. It seems to have been a wild success getting people to talk about its themes. perhaps that we continue to debate it is a testament to it's ambiguous nature. maybe there isnt a good answer. IMO it wasnt meant to mirror the comics. it was meant to adapt them as a foil to modern storytelling in cinema, the same way the comics were a foil to its counterparts of the time

Honestly, the movie made me appreciate the comic more and gave me a new perspective on "hero". Had me realize how unreal the regular heros with black and white morality. Morality is made up yes, but in life morality is a smear of gray, only a satire like watchman (comic and movie) can shine the light on that. Both are deep.

Regardless of whether Snyder's WATCHMEN is Deep or Dumb, I think this is one of the best breakdowns of any movie yet. I think you guys absolutely nailed this and it was an absolute joy to weigh up the different aspects of this film against the intent of Moore's work. Bravo Wisecrack, thank you so much for making this pandemic more bearable.

Pretty hilariously, I got an ad immediately after "we'd probably be demonetized" moment after 5:36

I feel like i have seen this before 🤔

Feel like most things with Snyder, he reaches but doesn’t quite grasp.

I know this is a late comment but I would say it’s deep. Or at least the film asks a question in which no other superhero film I have seen ever has. It asks that if superheroes were real, would we even want them? A powerful question. The characters in this film all have talents and some use them for morally wrong reasons. The Comedian is a great example of this. I find the film to be amazing

The choice is between deep and alternatively deep. To say that the difference is between deep and dumb is to resolve the dispute by definition.

I was a big Watchmen apologist when the movie came out. I think the fact it existed at all was worth celebrating. But as I get older, I believe that the film leans more towards Dumb. It tries to subvert the genre, but doesn’t really come out the other side; it gets stuck underneath the weight of its own tropes. The action is supposed to make you think about the damage these people cause, but it’s still played up for heroics. Rorschach is a dangerous individual with a “king-size death wish” (Moore’s words), but here he’s only one fighting for the truth. Hell, Rorschach right before his capture hits the ground and starts kung-fu fighting the police before he’s overwhelmed! Snyder wants to turn the tropes of his genre around on the audience, but he gets enamored with how cool they are and can’t help himself.

*Watchmen's journal, July 30th, 2020* *The internet is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The comment sections are extended gutters and the gutters are full of ungrateful reviews and opinionated toxicity and when the sea of mediocre and poorly made modern movies finally cloud over all the movie fans will starve. The accumulated filth of all the mundane bore and inconsequentiality of modern films will foam up over their eyes and all the entitled consumers and egotistical smug critics will look back and look to me and shout "Save us, please, we're sorry, you were a good movie!"... and I'll look down and whisper, "you're darn right."*

Wait a second, you're telling me the one and only, homeless, Red State Ryan from Funhaus is on the Wisecrack Team? Makes me love you guys even more.

I've read the comic and seen the movie dozens of times and this video still had fresh insights!

Honestly, this is a low bar, but I think Watchmen is Snyder's best movie, by a long shot. I do think he misses some of the points of the source material (the heroes are presented as *waaaaaaay tooo* badass, for instance, but the tone is solid, and you all captured the ...skewering?... of pop culture well. I blame most of the failings on the fact that Rorschach is based on Mr. A (or the Question) who encapsulates Ditko's Randian Objectivism, which we *know* Snyder is a fan of. So, since Moore is a legitimately good writer, he gives Rorshach (honestly, after maybe Nixon and the Comedian, the closest the comic has to a "villain") some really complex motivation and, let's admit, freaking great lines...well, it was pretty easy for Snyder to present him as the "Uncompromising hero" of the film without ringing clearly false. I mean, jeez, I *hate* everything Rorschach *is* and I still think the "I'm not locked up in here with you, you're all locked up in here with **me**!" line as, just frankly legitimately awesome.

Snyder's watchmen is an excellent film adaptation! It IS Deep! Deep Deep! Every scene is so well thought out and it's beautifully shot, written and edited, despite the differences from the original graphic novel that hardcore fans may or may not have approved. Just compare it to any other disappointing film that was adapted from a book and it's an amazing piece of work really. I can't fathom how complicated it must've been make this and it holds up so well. It's an underrated movie IMO. What really blows my mind is how Snyder's follow up films haven't nearly come close to his 1st 3 films. Sucker Punch, man of steel, Justice league... How does that happen?!

Did you just name drop one my favourite KZfaq channels KaptainKristian (or however it’s spelt?) that’s awesome

I saw the film before I read the book. I loved it. The book was better but to me that didn't change my perception of the film. I don't see why we can't take film adaptations on their own merits, we always have to hold them up against a standard they can't truly match when the mediums are so different. For Watchmen specifically, the time and place I first watched it had me leave the theater with a lot ideas I hadn't had before. That says deep to me.

i guess the simple fact this movie is discussed after so many time, even after a successful tv show is aired, show that at least there's some strong ideas there. Which is more than can be said about most super hero movies.

I think the visual glorification of the heroes works for the film, as it contrast to their defects. Comedian is the perfect example of that, as he's shown to be a badass, yet an awful person. It's not perfect, but it works pretty well. Also, I prefer the ending with the explosions blame on Manhattan to the giant squid.

Watchmen is what all hero movies should strive to match or exceed.

Snyder: I'm gonna show how silly and overblown super hero movies are. [Makes Watchmen] Hollywood: What a sick movie, bro. You should make more superhero movies! Snyder:... Are you... Are you serious? Okayyyy... [Makes Man of Steel] Hollywood: WTF was that? Also Hollywood: more

please bring back thug notes and cover the name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss.

WTF Wisecrack. I've literally just finished reading the comic. Like two hours ago. Stop spying on me! PS: Great vid btw

What is the music in the intro?

Finally a "Deep or Dumb" episode that actually has a real discussion. Glad to see the format hasn't gone completely clickbait