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We Bought A Ford Model A & Trailer At Auction & Tried To Tow It Home - Major Failure

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IronTrap Garage

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Last weekend Matt was on his way to a wedding and purchased a 1929 Ford Model A Coupe, and a home made trailer at auction. Being the adventurous person he is, Matt decided that we would be going to pickup the car without a trailer and towing it home with the trailer he purchased. The plan sounded good on paper, but things unraveled quickly. The trailer tires were junk and we had to source replacements, thankfully Tyrone Tire and Auto hooked us up with lightly used trailer tires. After getting the new tires onto the freshly greased trailer, Matt and Mike work to hand winch the car up onto the trailer. This is where things go very wrong, but we won't give up the biggest failure of all!!
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@RoadGlider505
@RoadGlider505 Жыл бұрын
The hitch height isn't the problem. There isn't enough weight on the tongue.
@corey6393
@corey6393 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. needs more tongue weight. Definitely was not designed to haul that specific car. If the axle were about 10-12" back, or the car could come that far forward it probably would have towed like a dream.
@FishNFoolLures
@FishNFoolLures Жыл бұрын
Them guys aren't as smart as they look. Well maybe they are, cause they don't look too smart here. lol Anybody that has towed a trailer much would know that you can't tow a trailer that the weight is balanced like that. You need at least 200 to 300 lbs. of tongue weight for it to not have that hospital wobble.
@georgewilson9121
@georgewilson9121 Жыл бұрын
possibly the car needs to back onto the trailor.....to change the weight distribution ,
@georgewilson9121
@georgewilson9121 Жыл бұрын
a model A with a flathead v8 motor would be front heavy.........
@jerryogstad
@jerryogstad Жыл бұрын
I love watching you guys iam 81 years old and live on an old farm in Idaho i havd had 4 34 fords and a 61 ss chev bubble top 409 4 speed loved them all i wish i could work on them keep up the good stuff coming may Jesus bless you all
@donames6941
@donames6941 Жыл бұрын
Guys when you get home move the trailer axle to the back 12 to 24 inch back it be good then and in my state the safty chains need hooked to the tongue and Chris cross so if the trailer comes unhooked the tongue falls on the chains and not the highway other then that its a dam nice trailer
@billmiller7138
@billmiller7138 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no tongue weight , axle needs to get moved back. I don’t know how anybody ever towed with that thing. Unless they put one of those Y- blocks on the tongue.
@terrancesweeney1870
@terrancesweeney1870 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt & Mike for saving another Model A!
@kevingauthier7973
@kevingauthier7973 Жыл бұрын
Correct you need 10% of your total weight of the trailer on the tongue
@snoopu2601
@snoopu2601 Жыл бұрын
This got to be the craziest trailer tow home. No risk no reward y'all tried it . The car looks really restorerable. There are still car's out there to be found even where you left the car it the yard I saw a cool truck in the back ground look like a Studebaker? Those make cool hot rodz
@ryandean69
@ryandean69 Жыл бұрын
Can’t win them all! But trying is the fun part! I got a homemade Model T trailer when I bought a stash of parts and while it tows nicely I made the mistake of looking underneath it while doing tires and only the top half is welded!!!!😮 Every joint on the bottom side has 0 welds!!!! The stuff you find!!!! Another great adventure guys!😁
@leeroyholloway4277
@leeroyholloway4277 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to have that Hack. I once pulled a 1 ton chevy panel from Nashville to Atlanta on a tail-heavy trailer with a station wagon. It got away from me once and nearly passed me... ended up making the trip at 35mph.
@hdvette64
@hdvette64 Жыл бұрын
Another great adventure. I miss doing that stuff. Drug so many things home on the edge of disaster. The best of times. I’m digging the Stude pick up at the garage
@jimbonser8748
@jimbonser8748 Жыл бұрын
What great fun! My Model A pickup rescue, 50 some years ago, had a 2 inch diameter tree growing up through the floorboard and out the roof. - - - No sweat the farmer had an axe.
@buddydunham9586
@buddydunham9586 Жыл бұрын
Matt, always love the way you keep things era correct! Need a 49 ford sedan to tow that rig My Dad had several of them, one old girl that had a center headlight that turned with the steering! Keep on saving the old cars, btw it’s never a failure if your having fun!!
@DKing-jg7fl
@DKing-jg7fl Жыл бұрын
Suspect that trailer was originally built to haul an old sprint car or other kind of racer shorter than a model A. Remember seeing similar trailers in some old photos of a circle track where my oldest cousin used to race.
@eddiemason7118
@eddiemason7118 5 ай бұрын
It’s all part of the fun of this crazy hobby we love.
@eliembree4637
@eliembree4637 Жыл бұрын
Matt is as happy as a kid on Christmas and Mike is as unhappy as the Grinch who stole Christmas. Hahahaha. The hot rod life.
@johnp8385
@johnp8385 Жыл бұрын
That was a massive auction hence brought crazy money for most vehicles license plates signs etc. Remember hearing about Chetty for years was old school restorer used lead and was 1- man operation at least got to see what all he amassed in his profession and talk with some friends sad to see collections dispersed but at least vehicles will be given new life took picture standing next to tire machine on skid back of building cast stand probably weighed a ton
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 Жыл бұрын
Been there, done that. I towed an Airstream Motorhome back from Maine to Connecticut with the trailer swaying anytime it got over 35 MPH, I had to give up an hour away from home and have it towed by a friends dad with a F7000 dump truck and Seeger Beaver, and he said he couldn’t believe how heavy it was on his trailer, he figured I was just scared until he towed it the last hour
@ianburit3705
@ianburit3705 Жыл бұрын
Hi, after towing car trailers for 14 years most weekends I learned a lot about loading old cars/ race cars on them, to get yourself out of trouble you could have lashed the big trolley jack on the very front of the trailer to increase its nose weight and made it tow better, even a big can of petrol (gas) or water would have helped out..But living Is Learning eh.. Thanks - Ian- UK
@justdale1966
@justdale1966 Жыл бұрын
Never fail when you find a score like that
@robertbourne614
@robertbourne614 Жыл бұрын
Never fun towing a light on the front load , great find always fun to watch thanks
@mikehunt9650
@mikehunt9650 Жыл бұрын
"Accidentally bought" yep sounds convincing...
@wolfgangricky
@wolfgangricky Жыл бұрын
Fails are Wins too. If you can't have fun at what you are doing, don't do it. This was definitly a fun one. Ty for taking us along
@pinwizz69
@pinwizz69 Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the strangest adventures you guys have ever took us subs with you on. That old car is definitely gonna be an interesting restoration in a future series. I hope you do restore it Matt and Mike.
@michaelguinn5736
@michaelguinn5736 Жыл бұрын
I can tell one thing the first minute of the video, Matt & Mike we're not in Michigan!! Those roads were nice!!
@IronTrapGarage
@IronTrapGarage Жыл бұрын
HA!
@bobgaylord8883
@bobgaylord8883 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a PITA, disapointment and time waste for y'all, but this is a retrieval y'all will remember for years & years and the memories will improve with each passing year. I can safely say that, 'cause I did similar crazy stunts decades ago. Great video with some particularly great camera shots. Thanks for the memories.
@SirFace4
@SirFace4 Жыл бұрын
A great video is not a great video with out 27+ ads, love it
@IronTrapGarage
@IronTrapGarage Жыл бұрын
The videos are shot and put on KZfaq for free. Much like public television the ads are what pays for the content to be made. You can go back to Sunday football if you like their ads better.
@barryhickman6911
@barryhickman6911 7 ай бұрын
It LOOKED cool while it lasted though! Another great score!
@GoonieLord
@GoonieLord Жыл бұрын
1930 Model A Coupe is my personal favorite a car that will outlast practically everything on the road today
@terryeustice5399
@terryeustice5399 Жыл бұрын
Matt always on the hunt. It’s a great barn find. Congratulations on wedding. And another car. Awesome!
@upptowne
@upptowne Жыл бұрын
the trees are beautiful up there
@kellypbr7742
@kellypbr7742 Жыл бұрын
I'm in my 70's and I've always dreamed of owning an old fixer upper truck, wish I lived near you, I'd buy it out right.
@gregvanderboom5011
@gregvanderboom5011 Жыл бұрын
It would of towed fine pulled by a car. I remember my Dad pulling a car home on a janky trailer with a 66 Corvair. The hitch only bolted to the Corvair's bumper so it was just perfect. We got pulled over outside of Kansas City, Mo because the trailer and the car didn't have any tail lights. Good times!
@floydhardin7880
@floydhardin7880 Жыл бұрын
I saw where a guy added a comment that there is not enough tongue weight. He is correct. You could add more weight in front of the trailer axle and it would not sway.
@thomaslovejoy4368
@thomaslovejoy4368 2 ай бұрын
fun to watch thanks
@GwynnOak1
@GwynnOak1 Жыл бұрын
You guys are the greatest! Always amusing, ready to try anything. Even your fails are wins in my book. It's making the effort that counts, Your win/lose ratio is still heavily in favor of the wins. In the long run that's what counts. I love that you respect and revere the old school hot rodding. Yeah a LOT of the early cars were pretty sketchy. But those were pioneering days for the sport, technology was primitive. No migs or tigs or plasa cutters, we're talking ox-acetylene rigs, and if you were lucky arc welder. The old young and dumb was a huge factor too. I look back at some of my early rods, and think how lucky I was to have lived through owning them. NO way I'd drive a death trap like that now! Sadly in spite of the progress, I still regularly see cars put together by hacks. I bought a 38 Chevy pickup a few years back, (for the body mainly) was running, guy asked did I want to test drive it? My answer? Not even around the block on a bet! Afraid I insulted him with the truth. He really thought the guy who helped him build it knew what he was doing.
@gerrymilidantri6457
@gerrymilidantri6457 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video today reminds me of the day's my brother and I used to flat tow old cars from peoples properties 50 years ago ! at the age 20 they were fun adventures. Email me when you get a chance I might be interested in the fenderless coupe.
@smedley333
@smedley333 Жыл бұрын
I used to do a lot of flat towing also. It's illegal now. At least it is here in Oregon. The very first time I did it I had just started working at a gas station in Phoenix Arizona in 1974. I was 18 years old. My new boss told me to get in his truck because we had a job to do. On the way there he told me we would be towing a car back to his station and explained to me how it worked. I was flabbergasted to learn that I would be doing all the braking for both us. It was a big car and a big pickup and the car had no vaccum so no power brakes. It took A LOT of pressure to get the brakes to do their job. Things started out okay but then my boss started going faster and faster until we're flying through downtown phoenix at 60 MPH and I'm not getting much help from the brakes. We somehow made it back safe and sound but I was a wreck. My boss said "good job" and he had me do it many times after that. He didn't have a tow truck. I now use a tow bar and magnetic lights that are wired into my truck. We did a lot of sketchy things when we were young and happily we lived through all of it. But we had a great time and learned so much. I never really had a mentor so my friends and I just went for it. We screwed up sometimes but we eventually figured most stuff out. There were some old guys that would sometimes give us advice but we had to be careful because they didn't always tell us everything so they could get a little entertainment form our adventures. I wouldn't call them mentors but they usually helped us with their knowledge and experience. I wish I could find a young person to mentor, or at least help, but most kids today just don't seem interested.To be fair, todays cars are not easy to work on. On my daily driver I can change the oil and a couple little things but after 6 years I still haven't even seen the splark plugs. And you can't even check the transmission fluid.
@mikelove9832
@mikelove9832 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Straight Ahead ✌😎
@onehotpinto
@onehotpinto Жыл бұрын
Alright! You got a period correct trailer for the track roadster. Set the shop truck up to tow it and you're set. Be a cool set-up for a car show.
@billywird
@billywird Жыл бұрын
yes sir looking at the axle placement on that trailer i sort of figured there would be a tracking problem, and of course with a different tow vehicle it sure made it harder to tow and if you got over the speed you were towing at and that trailer gets to swaying too much it can sure put you all over the road. been there and done that. but you gave it the old college try.
@ralphhammond8398
@ralphhammond8398 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, quite an adventure, enjoyed watching it....Ralph
@MartsGarage
@MartsGarage Жыл бұрын
Oh dear, so close and yet so far. If you could have shifted the A forward it might have helped. Front wheels off maybe? Lose the wheel stops at the front of the trailer. Take weight off the back of the load - bumper off. Ramps off. All easy to say but a lot harder to do on the side of the road. I hope the second go around goes better. All the best, Mart in England.
@threynolds2
@threynolds2 Жыл бұрын
Lowering the front of the trailer will not change the weight balance. The trailer is tail-heavy. Moving the car forward, or moving the axle back, is the only remedy. The tongue should carry 10% of the total weight. You showed that the tongue has absolutely no weight on it.
@rupe53
@rupe53 Жыл бұрын
I think about 3-400 pounds of cement blocks on the front of the trailer would have made a big difference. Probably could have lined them up in the tire channels and hung a few from the bumper.... or use bungee cords and stack up those tires on the draw bar. If we're gonna go sketchy then might as well go whole hog.
@hookemfairgarage7238
@hookemfairgarage7238 Жыл бұрын
This brings back memories.
@ZigZagMarquis
@ZigZagMarquis Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The visuals of late fall in PA makes me a little homesick. Good luck on your next adventure. I'm not a car guy, but I look forward to your videos.
@IronTrapGarage
@IronTrapGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davidrobinson7667
@davidrobinson7667 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Western Pennsylvania, cool find !!
@pappabob29
@pappabob29 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad looking Model A once it's cleaned up!! Hope you're gonna spend some time trying to get that banger to run!! Those are always fun and "indestructible"!! A "fun" video watching you guys do the "Vise Grip" imitation!! ;o)
@jakleo337
@jakleo337 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no tongue weight is a recipe for 'the fishtail frights'. Just move that axle back a foot on the trailer and it will be good.
@vermontguy7692
@vermontguy7692 Жыл бұрын
A minor failure at worst. A major failure would have been upside down in the ditch. Thanx for another cool video, guys!
@LTD347
@LTD347 Жыл бұрын
That trailer is so cool. Should get some sort of vintage built hotrod on it and tow it with the model A. Would look amazing
@nitcat1
@nitcat1 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a janky, super sketchy old car adventure. I remember that awful paper mill smell whenever we drove near Tyrone 😀
@pinwizz69
@pinwizz69 Жыл бұрын
You'd love Mobile Alabama in the summer with the wind blowing south. The air would actually make your eyes water working on the flight line at the Coast Guard Airstation doing inspections. All maintenance was done in the hangers doirs closed on those days. I spent two summers there (78/79) TAD for their Aviation Cadet training program.
@rolandtb3
@rolandtb3 Жыл бұрын
Fun times and adventures.
@HogshooterHotrods
@HogshooterHotrods Жыл бұрын
Cool find, looks perfectly sketchy I figured you would just turn it into a weekend trip and buy a collection of parts on the way home!!
@johnkranz4004
@johnkranz4004 Жыл бұрын
Definitely one for the books
@frankjamann5671
@frankjamann5671 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, adventures, thanks for the video
@Kevin-hj2mb
@Kevin-hj2mb Жыл бұрын
If you come back to get it, check out Swigart Museum in nearby Huntingdon. Great auto and memorabilia collection.
@billh230
@billh230 Жыл бұрын
" ..... 3 hours home" 🎶..... a three hour tour.... 🎵
@spursfansince87
@spursfansince87 Жыл бұрын
Nice find guys.
@terrallputnam7979
@terrallputnam7979 Жыл бұрын
Accidentally bought a model A coupe. Famous last words as a married man. LoL.
@jdm4569
@jdm4569 Жыл бұрын
All you need is a cheap sway control and it would solve that problem. I fought that same thing with a trailer and did everything you did to try to fix it but it wasnt till I put a $25 sway control on it that I got that problem resolved and now Im able to run 75mph will no issues
@alethacriss9308
@alethacriss9308 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂 Great video! Maybe you could move the axle back on the trailer a foot or two, but you folks already know that. Tom and I look forward to see what happens on this project.
@kassies1261
@kassies1261 Жыл бұрын
2R Studebaker truck at the tire shop.
@dennistwitchell8821
@dennistwitchell8821 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have that truck.
@garycamara9955
@garycamara9955 5 ай бұрын
I towed my wifes old 56 chevy home with my 100 ft 1inch rope. Just doubled it up to get the car ten feet behind me.
@eddiealbritton2462
@eddiealbritton2462 Жыл бұрын
Got a friend that put me in situations like that!👍 Got a window van, I've hauled 7 pig,two calves and the kicker was a full grown mule! Inside my van 🤔 Pigs a couple trips, calves one trip and mule! I got pulled over on that trip 😂 The cop didn't pull me over for the mule, didn't even enquire about the mule 🤣his back was about 1/foot from roof his head was in between me and my friend 🤣😂🤣 Cop just wrote the ticket and left 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍 Very professional job 👍🇺🇸👍😂
@bonnevillestig
@bonnevillestig Жыл бұрын
nice studebaker pickup
@BrianSmart1959
@BrianSmart1959 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could have just thrown a couple of 100 pound bags of cement on the front of the trailer to get some more weight up front. Or have Mike stand on the tongue. 😁You'd just need to keep an eye out for speed bumps.
@ronluke5249
@ronluke5249 Жыл бұрын
Hey at least your adventure worked out better than the last group of people who went on a 3 hour cruise 😂
@robertjean659
@robertjean659 Жыл бұрын
All good fun anyway. Another gem into the garage. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
@screwthecrewofpoliticians8921
@screwthecrewofpoliticians8921 Жыл бұрын
Nice find.
@kelvincarolinaboilawton803
@kelvincarolinaboilawton803 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up cause it's a cool car not thumbs up to the problems.
@stevejones2370
@stevejones2370 Жыл бұрын
Cool Studebaker truck at the tire shop
@craigcaggiano431
@craigcaggiano431 Жыл бұрын
Love the adventure…
@12345.......
@12345....... Жыл бұрын
That was a pretty bad idea. I wouldn't trust that trailer after a complete inspection, let alone straight off the property
@steveclark4291
@steveclark4291 Жыл бұрын
You would be getting a ticket for riding in the back of the truck here in Kansas ! It didn't use to be that way when I was young but that was about 67 years ago ! 😆 🤣 😂
@incampbellsshoptoday2599
@incampbellsshoptoday2599 Жыл бұрын
The odds of things not going as planned is directly proportional to how far from home you are.
@IronTrapGarage
@IronTrapGarage Жыл бұрын
Best comment! HaHA!
@Gary-fw2kw
@Gary-fw2kw 7 ай бұрын
You guys seem like good guys too good to be sending them bad words like you do
@jeffmay1926
@jeffmay1926 Жыл бұрын
Very cool 😎
@whosjoe90
@whosjoe90 Жыл бұрын
enjoyed that.
@nzsaltflatsracer8054
@nzsaltflatsracer8054 Жыл бұрын
Easy fix, take the ramps off & hang them on the front bumper then take the front wheels off & drag it forward.
@tomcummings655
@tomcummings655 Жыл бұрын
A big-block chevy block bolted to the hitch pole would have taken care of the problem!!!LOL
@kenimhoff6475
@kenimhoff6475 Жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing with your finds. I can live vicariously through your videos as if I was there. Thank you so much for sharing.
@denislandry7577
@denislandry7577 Жыл бұрын
Shit happens , still a treat , good score ! Attaboy
@josephpalen7149
@josephpalen7149 Жыл бұрын
A very smart (the sky is the limit) non-intrusive (short in duration) way to plug an online auction for one of your cars.
@ProjectRescues
@ProjectRescues Жыл бұрын
If it were me in my situation, I would have towed it back at 30mph and avoided highways.
@hotrodmyk
@hotrodmyk Жыл бұрын
Model A in a barn, home made trailer, what could go wrong??? BAWHAHAHAHA that was nuckin' futs!
@colinhyde1951
@colinhyde1951 Жыл бұрын
All you need is more tongue weight, not a height problem. Trailer tongue weight should be 10-15% of the total trailer weight, otherwise you get sway. All you needed to do is to strap your truck spare or something else heavy on the front (ie ahead of the axle) of the trailer.
@paulmathews5686
@paulmathews5686 Жыл бұрын
the only thing missing from this adventure was , " WINE / WOMEN / & SONG " just a couple of " PIRATES " on another " booty- haul " !!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS !!!!!
@joek1960
@joek1960 Жыл бұрын
The trailer was probably designed to be pulled by a 60s car. A bumper hitch on that would be about 8 inches high.
@wrbrdnt
@wrbrdnt Жыл бұрын
3 hours huh. We all saw how well that worked out for Gilligan and the skipper
@mibars
@mibars Жыл бұрын
Such places always make me think about the previous owner of all of these things, someone possibly had lots of plans and then for one reason or the other they are all put on hold and they sit and rot until it is too late :(
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some diagonal braces from each front corner of the frame to near the front of the tongue will prevent those crazy oscillations. Seems like every home built trailer with that design is a bear to pull.
@diceys1964
@diceys1964 Жыл бұрын
I have patina'd reflectors for the coupe headlights
@Obeijin
@Obeijin Жыл бұрын
A 3 hour tour ...🤣🤣🤣
@steveclark4291
@steveclark4291 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tyrone Tire and Auto for letting Matt leave his car and trailer there until he could bring a better trailer to hau itl with ! Matt and Mike thank you for some laughs and the adventure !
@steveclark4291
@steveclark4291 Жыл бұрын
Bumps are hard on hemorrhoids ! 😆 🤣 😂
@jonathanstone6545
@jonathanstone6545 Жыл бұрын
I one a upon time tried to tow a willys pickup with my lite duty Toyota pickup I was fish tailing allover the road . Then the tow truck guy who was old to be my son put a heavy duty transmission in the Tacoma bead and made it back to Nevada. When I got it home I realized the body and bead were all unbolted.and ready to fall off the frame no straps how lucky I the cab or bead did not fall off in the middle California and Nevada highway 15. Could been very disastrous. Jonathan Stone
@joshreynolds9488
@joshreynolds9488 Жыл бұрын
You know the tire shop guys are alright if there's a Studebaker truck back there were you stashed it.
@johnailshire966
@johnailshire966 Жыл бұрын
I.'ve been told that the correct weight ratio is 60%up front to 40% out back.
@xavierxi9348
@xavierxi9348 Жыл бұрын
The trailer axle is too far forward.
@Gramps83
@Gramps83 Жыл бұрын
Man that depot hack has the look.
@MrJeep75
@MrJeep75 Жыл бұрын
Make a banger rod out of this model A
@mikerussell505
@mikerussell505 Жыл бұрын
The angle has nothing to do with it. You must have tongue weight for the trailer to tow properly.
@dreamchasergarage690
@dreamchasergarage690 Жыл бұрын
"Drove when parked" eh? 😁
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