LITERALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING

Yeah, it's also in that same category of "you're so mature for your age", it's in the toolbox of predators that make the victim feel they're special to this person &emotionally manipulate them. It's gross. The reason they don't have friends their age is because they're either wanting to control others and therefore need a younger target, or they aren't up to the standards of their peers in development so they need to be social with people more their speed. I'm willing to bet, it's the 1st one though.

Even if it’s not s3xual it’s still sooo wildly inappropriate. These people are permanently stuck in the mind of a 14 year old, wanting the validation and attention of adolescents

*please take a seat*

GOLD!!!

I have often wondered that myself. Especially considering how psychologically damaged Colleen clearly is with her anxiety and dermatilomania etc and her constant need for approval and validation. It shrieks “dysfunctional childhood” to me.

They were raised very sheltered. Mostly homeschooling, super Christian... like her parents were afraid of Halloween back in the 80s/90s that's how Christian they were. Colleen went to a Christian college where she met Kory. I think she slowly became more open minded after she became a youtuber. But Colleen strikes me as someone who was very emotionally stunted in her 20s.

​@@cheesyDELISH48oh, yeah, that's very clear cut. I was raises only loosely Christian (Baptist people are a lot more modern and open minded generally speaking so I lucked out) And this is why I feel like the Duggars and people like them are breeding an army of actual demons. Sure there are exceptions, but not a single one of them is better off that way, it's a bubble of abuse and fear. I think Life of Pi should be the new Bible lol let's teach people how to be compassionate and focus on that

This right here. There is something weird going on mentally with her in particular and her siblings, it makes me wonder how they grew up to end up like this. I grew up in a pretty f-ed up Christian household and the signs are very obvious here. It all starts at home.

Clearly in a dysfunctional household. Take it from someone that also grew up in a dysfunctional household.

Truuuuuuuue

Yeah jag what he did totally looks like actual sexual grooming, it's so typical of people who do this to be incredibly needy and not leave the minor alone or make them feel guilty when they are not giving them attention.

I know Trent has autism, which affects his understanding of socially appropriate behavior (as in, how the average person would behave in a given situation, not failing to understand that he shouldn’t be creepy to minors). I wonder if he understood that what he was doing was wrong and unethical. Not saying that somebody with autism can’t understand that they’re not supposed to converse with minors.

@@youtubeposter3814 i get what you're saying, but as someone who also is autistic & has autistic friends, i feel like it's clear it was wrong. especially when he said his family told him not to talk to people under 18 & he has to "wait 4 years"

You can’t go to jail for being creepy. Learn how laws work. Don’t go throwing around statements like that, it belittles the punishments that ARE available

Samesies. Im a big D Deafie, went to residential school and college etc… the amount of horrific crimes I witnessed at the residential though is truly haunting. A lot of traumatized kids left to their own devices, often many couldn’t even communicate in our native language with their families, it’s sad.

@@himenyx153yeah a lot of people tend to pretend that someone being a minority excludes them from any wrongdoing, while many others think that them being part of that minority automatically makes them a bad person. Neither is true. Disability, sexuality, skin color, and gender have nothing to do with how good or bad a person is. It’s something that I hope everyone learns eventually.

I’m so sorry that you had to go through something so painful, that kind of sh*t can cause trauma that lasts generations 😢😢

Exactly. Trent doesn’t get a “ I don’t know better bc…”. He is a straight up weirdo. I felt bad, but when I saw him on her videos my nerves screamed.

@@froggy5748 well put

I wish I wasn’t starting to get the vibe that Adam likes the attention this situation is getting. Like, clearly this kind of stuff needs to be exposed, but it’s an icky feeling when the person exposing it starts to give off the “ I’m really into the attention I’m getting” vibe.

And the victims that have been coming out are talking about fairly recent events. Collen and co. have been milking the dead, rotted corpse of Miranda Sings for longer than most of her current audience have been alive, there could be so many more people out there that we don't even know about.

@@HiiiiiiiiieeeeHe’s getting death threats and being doxxed… He had to file a police report because of the death threats and doxxing… He’s even started going to therapy. WHO WANTS THAT ATTENTION.

@@mrpeach2023 More importantly, who cares if he wants attention? it doesn't make the situation any less jarring, tbh I feel like attention here could feel seriously validating so even if he is really enjoying it, I don't think I would blame him at all. edit: the validation I'm referring to is not in relation to the very negative attention. That shit would just suck.

@@Hiiiiiiiiieeeee’s definitely not enjoying the attention. You should watch HIS videos talking about it. They are allowed to talk about it and hold the adults responsible for their actions. (I’m really hoping I misread your comment lol)

There's a reason why contracts will have stipulations about how you can interact with clients, students, and the like. Because things can get fishy very fast. And even if you have no ill intentions, all it takes is one accusation or offhand comment to screw up everything. Ideally the authority figures (teachers, doctors, etc.) know not to get too personal, but if rules are needed then so be it. At best, his friendship and interactions with these fans is pathetic and creepy. At worst, it gets into child predator territory. What the heck is wrong with this family?

Not a justification, just to add: Trent could be a little behind, giving the fetal infection he got

My drama teacher was the same way. I was a part of the drama club which she was the supervisor/leader and she was very adamant about none of the students friending her on Facebook or contacting her in anyway after hours. Once we graduated high school and turned 18 and everything, fine, she would accept our Facebook requests but she still keeps the relationship very professional and surface level. In high school, I understood to an extent why she did this, but I didn't understand the full scope of the situation until I was way older. It's so disturbing when full ass grown adults try to play something like is off as a 'mistake' and that 'they didn't know better'. Honey, we have a lot more problems than if that's true. Which it's not. It's bullshit and it's disgusting.

EXACTLY my thought. What had to have happened for his family to literally disallow him talking to children. It’s not like that’s a normal ask, if they were concerned about fans in general (because they were afraid fans might spin something he said or were aware of the obvious power dynamic) then he wouldn’t specify that he’s not allowed to talk to people under 18. The family had to have seen something to set such a clear boundary.

@@idontspeakenglish827 No. He’s deaf. That’s it.

I found it odd that it was his screen saver. I suppose it was just for the video though.

​@@SG0779he wants to show us how young he was when Colleen abused him

@@SG0779adam uses images on his computer screen based on the context of the video. it changes every video!

@@nic-ty9oh that makes a lot of sense! Thanks.

I'm 32 so even now he looks like a kid to me, in the wallpaper he looks like a baby lol I would literally hesitate to even put my arm around him for the photo since people read into everything let alone feel any desire to message him privately. Maybe a lighthearted comment exchange at most lmao. In what world does someone 30+ want to chitchat with people half their age consistently like how emotionally stunted does one have to be

Yep. While Colleen is inappropriate with fans, this guy is actively trying to sexually groom children. Totally on another level. I wish more commenters would realize that.

​@kobra4422 100% my thoughts too, even if she vehemently denies being attracted to minors, even if she somehow actually isn't in any capacity she's still absolutely a predator by proxy by grooming kids into being easier victims for the "actual" predators to target in on

@@luxtobeyouWhat Colleen did was wrong, what Trent did was criminal.

@@siobhanmulvey That is what all those screenshotted messages were, they were to Ollie

They'll probably make an episode based on this.

@@amandamandamands thanks - I commented before I watched the video.

!! yes!! thank you for validating my inner child

@@billieseyelashes 🖤

??? are people seriously using homeschooling as an excuse i was homeschooled and as a now 23 year old i wouldnt even date/talk sexually with an 18 year old because it feels weird being homeschooled doesnt mean you dont know right from wrong or are in some weird bubble that makes you think being inappropriate with minors is okay

​@@riyamu6447 it's not an excuse but can be an explenation for HER. not saying all home school kids, not at all. But just for example when people explain why someone becomes a murderer they say for example his father beat him & his mom, but then there's another person who also got beaten & is kinda offended cause he turned out just fine so that reasoning only applies to the murderer. & Im not sayin home schoolin is comerable to beating but maybe they were very very sheltered (i actually think they said so) & maybe didnt experience bitching & gossiping with their peers so they had this underlying urdge when they grew up that they needed to experience high school gossiping along with not fucking understanding social boundries with minors. I think she kinda wanted to have this mean girl phase but then also with a touch with innaproprietness because she was sheltered while homeschooled (very religious parents, so then with who are you gonna have this innapropriate sex talk at 30 yo when everyone your age did already do it 15 years ago..15 year olds, of course! & They all worship you like a god, imagine having this wet dream of the most popular girl in the class 😆 & everyone follows your lead..so, yeah..much problems..what the actual fuck is wrong with trent, thats on a whole other level of fucked up, tho)

@@MarusaTheBadKid i grew up in a cult, on a farm literally isolated from everyone, i didnt have those typical teenage experiences either but do you know who i do the inappropriate sex talk with now? people my own age- the youngest people i would talk that way with are 19 year olds being sheltered doesnt mean youre incapable of understanding boundaries, or that you dont understand that when someone is way younger than you they shouldnt be subjected to that kind of conversation especially at THIRTY years old

@@riyamu6447 then idk wtf is wrong with her, we'll have to figure out the origin

@@riyamu6447 what cult was it, that sounds interesting, non related to colleen

Exactly. Wanting to educate children, and mentoring them is completely valid. There was 100% a way for Colleen to make Miranda a good role model for kids, including her two books, but I don't think educating and mentoring children is why she made this. I honestly suspect is was to make her access to children way easier, which is disturbing.

Too bad they didn’t have that same incentive with Colleen…..

@@bobococo89 i feel like something really messed up must have happened for them all to recognize what he did was wrong and not see the shit she has done as inappropriate

The conversations are not appropriate. The part of his family telling him not to talk to them is different though since the whole family was probably being messaged by kids because of Colleen showing her family on KZfaq.

!!

I don't like her but being a professional victim is no good.

He definitely has him saying "my parents told me to stop talking to people under 18" is so telling

Colleen also talked about sexual stuff with minors in her group chat. She asked Adam for ass pics, talked about her sex life to them, she also talked about Josh’s penis size to the kids, posted a video of herself with a tampon in her mouth, asked from Adam whether he’s a virgin, she also asked from them what their favorite sexual position is. She’s as creepy as Trent is, and don’t forget Colleen’s best friend Kory. He’s also a creep. As the saying goes, birds of a feather flock together.

Me too!!!

True

I’m sorry to hear that, I wish KZfaq would terminate their channels. There is proof of grooming, get them off this platform

i'm a survivor too and i have to watch in small portions otherwise i cannot take it. i hate it so much. i get shame dawson vibes from colleen. like how difficult is it to STAY AWAY FROM MINORS? unbelievably.

I’m not saying at all that autism is an excuse for ignoring boundaries with a minor, but he has autism. If you’ve ever seen a video of him (I used to watch Colleen’s vlogs), he not to be socially delayed. I have to wonder how aware he was that what he was doing was inappropriate. That doesn’t change the fact that what he was doing was inappropriate.

Bit of a difference there. He’s an actual sexual groomer. She’s inappropriate and exploits her young fans’ labor, but she’s not trying to have sexual relationships with any individual fans.

Grooming for what?

@@kobra4422 Is she like a pimp to you?

@@kobra4422Why would she groom them for randos?

he replaced the c's with k's which makes it okay /s

​@@GinaGodfreyI'm pretty sure the reason why he replaced the *C* with a *K* was bc his name is spelled with a *K*

Yeah wtf….they’re all so gross

That’s what cancel culture IS you dingus.

@@asmrtpop2676 the term of it doesn’t matter, what matters is these adults accepting the consequences of their actions

That woman is filth

Absolutely no reason!

@@bobococo89 Yup.. zero. Not only were they minors, they were fans and workers.. couldn't be more vulnerable position.

Thank you! They’re based on 1920’s jewelry! I love that era of fashion, jewelry and art! Great catalogue for tattoos.

Agreed. It’s just an issue when the friendship begins in a certain type of environment imo.

Eh ... good PARENTING and responsible adults who aren't trying to BEFRIEND children are protection against abuse and other crap... There's is NO reason for a grown man or woman who's not family or such to have a "friendship" with a child. That's not okay, random adults shouldn't hang around with literal children.

@@NathalieCwiekSwiercz Why not?

@@READYTOGLARE Yeah, I think any sort of friendship developed between a content creator and their fan is going to be suspicious and when there's an age gap it makes it worse

You really think that was the word they were going for.

Birds of a feather. All of them.