The guy in the tiktok also saying "you would never leave me if I cheated on you" has definitely cheated.

Well the man in the first tiktok is kind of right in that him stepping out of the relationship and having sex with someone else doesn't say anything about his wife. Says a heck of a lot about him, though - namely that he's selfish, short-sighted, untrustworthy, unreliable and basically worthless in any meaningful capacity.

Thanks for reminding everyone you can be poly and still cheat. I had very clear boundaries in my polycule and they were still broken. That's cheating.

I will never understand Cheaters. Especially serial cheaters. I’ve dated and been married. I never cheated on any of them. When I got the first feeling that I wanted to move on I told them and we went our separate ways. I tell everyone I dated “hey if you meet someone else that’s fine, just tell me before anything actually happens and I’ll be cool about it. It actually happened a few years ago and I told him “ok, I hope it goes well and works out” and we went on our ways with no hard feelings. It’s NOT hard to be faithful

Why even stay with someone if you're cheating? If you don't care about them then just do hook up culture why waste her time with a loveless relationship?

"If I cheat, you not leaving me." The look he has just tells me: "You won't leave, because I'll kill you first." I've seen the look before, the way he acts, speaks... Fear, hate, etc. I can only hope I'm wrong, but woof.

That girl is right, obsessing over your partner is no fun & no good for your mental health. They will either do it or not.

Damn... If that guy was my boyfriend.. "I'm the ONE!".. I would've left him right there and then.. and he has definitely cheated already 100%!

As someone who has cheated, and also one who has been cheated on. I agree that a monogamous relationship, is solely monogamous unless clearly specified. Once you make the decision to step out of your relationship, regardless of the situation (sobriety, state of mind etc.) you did so in a way that was likely intentionally deceitful and inappropriate to your partner and your relationship. There is no excuse for doing so, and whatever you muster up in your head, is meant only to make YOU the CHEATER feel better about the situation. It is YOU giving YOURSELF a pass based on certain circumstances. And despite whatever idea in your head you use to justify your decision, I'm sure your partner will see the situation differently.

I hate that men who say things like "i still love my wife" totally negelect the basic fact that love does not hurt. Youre hurting your partner. You choose your feelings over hers, you put her at risk of disease and a crazy/mentally unhinged person. Yall playing with fire and putting your family at risk because you want to involve others. Thats not love 💔

I really hate the implication for these guys' relationships. If you see no difference between sleeping with your partner or sleeping with another woman, then you don't love your partner. Really, they just want to have their cake and eat it too; sleep around with whoever they want, but keep a woman at home to take care of them.

No, no, no.. he is actually right, it doesn't say anything about the wife/cheated on partner, but it does say a lot about the husband/ cheater....

The entire “men cheating doesn’t say anything about his partner” is literal bullshit lol. It proves they don’t care about their partners health, exposure to diseases, and are knowingly doing something that they know would hurt their partner. You cannot in any way, ever claim to care about someone and do something that disrespects them, knowingly. Those men just like the role their wives fill, but not their actual wife. It’s sad

Omg I agree 100% with the whole not stopping your partner from cheating thing! I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who I have to stop from cheating. I'm not going to control you, I'm going to let you make your own choices and then decide whether or not I want to be with you based on your character.

I completely agree Giulia, obviously we shouldn't say 100% without proof but seriously that dude was SHADY as heck. I don't think she should stay with him. And I think it's just a gross delusion/justification attempt these guys are making, it's wrong to betray someone period.

Jeez... the second clip had me so stressed. The ARROGANCE of the guy though. Being with someone for a long time does not make you someone worth keeping - blegh

The girl at 9:40 perfectly described my perspective. This mindset has given me so much peace and confidence and a healthy relationship - having to go through someone’s phone constantly or always being afraid that they’re cheating every time they leave the house, or seeing them in a scenario with an attractive person or flirty person is just not even worth all our best moments combined.

This conversation is exhausting 😴

I have got to know a follow-up to that interview with the couple. My thirst for cheating retribution will not allow me to go on without it xD

The lady from the second TikTok should just dump his ass right there. The obvious red hands aside, a dude that is of the mindset that they can mistreat you, but you can't leave because they have somehow invested in you is a HUGE red flag. That's some "why divorce when you can murder" energy right there.

I don't understand cheaters. If you want to be in a open relationship/polyamorous, tell your partner. I think it's kinda funny when the cheater is the one crying and throwing up when their partner finds out what they been doing.

HOW do u cheat on such a gorgeous woman like the one who asked "U got a side b*tch?" 😢 HOW

Cheating is cheating period and its wrong

Yeah, saying "You look easy to cheat on" is like "You look easy to mug"

If you haven’t seen Just Pearly Things yet, I’d definitely like to see your take on her. She’s basically a woman basher for male attention.

If my bf cheats on me it's over. Idc if he bought a house for us or we got three cats and a bird together. I'm taking all the animals and finding an apartment idgaf.

Um that guy has either texted cheating or physically cheated yup he did/is. She needs to leave that negativity

The guy on the 1st clip: "I can cheat & it doesn't say anything about my wife." Correct; it says something (unflattering) about YOU!

The last video reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend recently about boundaries she has within her relationship with her fiance. They have a mutual agreement that neither are allowed to have friends of the opposite gender except in a group setting. She said that it's because they have both been cheated on before and started out poly, but the third partner was causing a lot of drama and they decided to end things with her. I can appreciate the fact that it's a mutual boundary and there's no double standards, but if you're so concerned about being cheated on that you can't even handle your partner spending time with friends of the opposite gender when you're not around (assuming you're in a hetero relationship ofc), you probably should stay single and work on healing from whatever trauma led you to that point.

My ex cheated on me. i took him back and a year later i asked him about it because it felt like it was just swept under the rug and i had some questions.He denied ever doing it. I RAN

TikTok is poison. Nuff said.

Honestly I’m so sick of that type of content popping up on TikTok it literally stresses me out and makes me want to vomit I got rid of TikTok because of these stupid bro podcasts you can’t escape them 🤮

The guy who's like "You're not leaving me if you cheat" is giving me seriously bad vibes. I hope she does what she says. Leave without a trace so he cant' track her down and off her.

Yes miss Kim. 100% agree, cheaters don't deserve any space in your brain. A friend lf mine got cheated on recently so we're screwing with him because he doesn't know that she knows.. if anyone wants vindictive ideas to get back at a cheater, lmk. All the things I came up with were legal but inconvenient/annoying for the cheater 😂

I dated a guy for 6 months who wouldn't let me meet his family, including his daughter. We were never exclusive, even though I wanted to be and I think he knew that. Turns out he had a girlfriend while we were dating, and she ended up eventually filing a police report against him for DV

666k subscribers, let's get this number higher or lower quick! Congrats on the huge success, been watching for years.

Why do people in relationships want to act single? Be single then. Grow up. Don't get involved with someone if you can rather spare them.

The one that gets me is the lady that said something to the effect of: If I cheat, it's because there's something missing in the relationship. If you leave me because of that, you're just insecure. If you cheat, I'm justified in leaving." That shit right there gets under my skin just like the ignorant excuses for men cheating.

Absolutely yikes.

The first thing that showed up at my house addressed to me with no return when I took to the internet in my mythology was a flashlight and a knife. 🌝

9:37 That's a wholesome and reasonable person on TikTok, no damn waaaaay! Also, the only good basis for healthy relationships is mutual trust and care. If your relationship suddenly goes into envy, control and spying, it's time to bail the fk out.

"It's ok for men to cheat because it doesn't mean anything" then why are there men leaving their wives and kids for their mistress if it really doesn't mean anythibg?🤨

I'm a woman. Sex and love or closeness have NEVER been connected to me. I can enjoy sex without love, and I've even loved without great sex...however what I have never done is cheat, and I totally categorize together these three things, love, sex, and respect. Lame, delusional ppl.

that girl in the 3rd tiktok is so right. she has the best mindset about it. like yeah trust your partner if they don't give you a reason not to, and if they do cheat on you, leave that mf 🏃🏽‍♀️💨 they gonna have a shitty unfulfilled life anyway. nice to see someone with a normal perspective on tiktok lmao

Im not even on TikTok and was lately approached by my ex, because TikToks he was watching basically told him that maybe I was cheating on him, while I was just unhappy with my life and was getting out of that relationship. So this side of the internet is one thing, the other is "those 10 bullshit things to look out for that mean that your SO is cheating" and apparently "dont talk about it, just linger in your dark thoughts of being cheated on".

Remember when Vine was big and literally all the videos on the comedy page were like "when ur girlfriend finds out ur cheating on her." Like wtf was that? Who tf is that supposed to be relatable for?

Am I the only one stoked to see the amount of subbies at 666k?? 😈🤘

They are missing such a key ingredient here....ok so it doesn't mean anything to you, then why do it? That's bullshit reasoning. The key ingredient is: _it matters to the person who they are cheating on_ 🤦‍♀️ they say it themselves. If the wife does it, it's cause to end the relationship. So they acknowledge that it's a very hurtful awful betrayal to do to your beloved. So how the hell does that hurt change for the wife if a man does the cheating even if it "didn't mean anything to the man and doesn't say anything about them not being satisfied with their wife"?! That's some mental gymnastics right there and once again we are brought to the conclusion that these people view women as objects and not people who have feelings, thoughs, motives and lives of their own.

Wtf does "you look like you would be easy to cheat on" EVEN MEAN?!

6:32 my maybe toxic ass wants to leave him just for that damn attitude. Oh, the audacity!

I’m glad your one of the smart ones who realizes you don’t need to have tiktok to have tiktok aka you don’t have to be spied on by China to watch people dancing their way into hell

5:30 First of all...I would never be in a relationship with either of those two. They both have inflated egos and are toxic.

Cheating IMO is genderless, the circumstances that leads to the cheating may differ individually but it mostly stems from the same insecurities, unless they are a narc

Its funny that you bring up looking at your partner texting because my partner and i were just talking about how when i see hes texting, i look away cuz i dont want to be intrusive or make him feel like he doesnt have any privacy. I was cheated on twice, including in my marriage, but im not with either of those people, so i just dont think its right to take out their actions on my partner now, ya know? Idk life is too short to spend it with ppl who dont make you happy, so i dont think its ever worth it to stay with a cheater🤷‍♀️

Genuine question; why is "it didn't mean anything" such a go to, bs excuse? Like it meant something to me, lol

These same guys often crow about how great “trad” relationships are too, which definitely dont condone cheating

Thank you for your input❣

Dude bro podcasts always is hosted by a dude who’s been divorced at LEAST once and it was all “his crazy wife’s jealous my” that tore them apart.

I'm poly but I was still cheated on. And of course he was so fucking dumb 😂 He thought he was so clever until we literally all found out about each other and I confronted him, he was gagged. Then the water works lol

She didn't touch on the faking cancer thing and the way he said there was no evidence of him being abusive is all sus. Both of them suck.

This is why I think women, especially in America all need to be registered for guns. A dude cheats on me and says, "you not leaving me, i've been with you too long", I'm seeing it as a threat. I'm shooting him in the chest. And if not I will have him jumped and beaten within inch of his life, leaving him as bare as he was born, spitting on him, and if he snitches we will have even more problems. I have 14 siblings with nothing but time on their hands. Dude I'm black and native, too many of the women in both my groups go missing each year or are involved in domestic abuse for me to be playing around with my life. I refuse to be a statistic. Either you don’t cheat, you cheat and I leave, or you die. There is no in between.

U DA ONE DATS ABOUT TO GET LEFT!!! 😷🤣

what happened to the iconic intro? 🥺

Audacity is at an all time high.

As far as I'm concerned, the reasons don't fucking matter at all. If you're in an agreed upon monogamous relationship and a partner cheats, it's jacked and no excuse is reasonable

9:55 yesssss 1000% yes.

I think there was a study the first guy was referring to

"If you're cheating, just end it". Agreed. This has always been my take on it, I would never cheat, but I always saw it this way if someone cheated on me, even though I acted differently in the past 1) because it was a fwb thing and I didn't feel I had the right to call it cheating (delusional, ik) and 2) because, in the case of my ex from twitter, I was uhm, insane and I was incredibly traumatised by him and my fwb at that point to even fully realise wtf I was doing, or what was happening. But the pseudo-intellectual arguments lmao, it makes no sense. "If I cheat on you, you're not leaving". I'd tell him "watch me". That's horrible. He def has cheated, he was just stealthy about it lmao, but the glitch gives it away. I also disagree with braid girl. I know that in the past, when I was in a relationship, or in any other circumstance of being involved, I should've placed a boundary of not letting the other person interact with the person who was flirting (in the case of my ex, for example, a girl intensely flirted with him and he then cheated and dumped me for her, then he blocked me when he was with her, because she either felt insecure or didn't want me flirting with him, which kinda pissed me off because he never cared how I felt and suddenly with her, he not only cared, but blocked me to save his new relationship). It is kind of the guy's weakness, as she says, but I don't agree with her, I don't want any woman who interferes in a relationship of mine to be there, and after my trauma with my ex and even my fwb, I started placing those boundaries more firmly than ever before, it's either they remove her or I remove myself. It did bother me to see her flirting with my ex constantly, but by that point I had begged him countless times to stop liking girls' pictures and he didn't give a fuck, and I wanted to know for sure, which I did when he started abusing me, but at that point he had already dumped me and I was just trying to get back with him (crazy, ik, why would I wanna go back to a guy who made me cry every single day for a year and a half and made me deactivate my account almost every week due to him constantly throwing himself at other women... and even worse when she came along). It also bothered me when I was with my fwb (you could say situationship), but I never felt I had the right to say something, and as with my ex after him, I also suffered a lot on my own and cried, but I never felt that I had the right to bother him about it, or say something. I saw him posting his new gf, or writing to other girls on twitter, or hanging around his ex, but I never felt I had the right to say anything, and I suffered alone, because he mostly didn't care about my feelings and would def get mad at me. I knew these were men who got mad at me when I expressed myself and what hurt me, and I knew that if I said something every time they did something like that, I would be abused in some capacity, which sucks to admit. People still talk about me to this day, as if they know what I've been through, as if they know my story, because these men (and the new women) tell their version, and weren't emotionally available enough with me to want to listen or care how I felt, so I went through most of this stuff on my own, but I know other people were more vocal about it and stirred drama (even though I was vocal plenty of times, I was just ignored and at some point realised it didn't matter what I said), and they listened, which makes me feel even worse, that the women that came after me were able to be heard and these men cared about what they had to say, or if they were hurting, which is a level of availability I never had from them. I know that, if any of those things happened, or happen today, I would either just talk about it, write about it, or dip when I felt I had talked about it enough and the person was incapable of acting right. I have learned to set boundaries the very hard way. People should be comfortable enough with their partners not to constantly monitor, or look over, in theory. But in practice, if you came out of a traumatic situation, related, or not to that person, or something they did in the past, it isn't easy to be that comfortable. In time, through trust building instead of confirmation, I think the person might start trusting. But trauma from these things is a btch, and I'm a testament to that, so it's kinda easy to say "if your partner has friends" which nobody even disagrees with, having friends (male or female) isn't the problem, but as with my ex, seeing a 'friend' constantly flirting with the person, or seeing the partner constantly complimenting the person and flat out flirting while neglecting or ignoring you, raises a huge red flag, which at the time, it did for me. Mainly because 1) I was dating him and I wasn't being treated like that 2) if you were just friends, she wouldn't be so obviously throwing herself at you, let alone you at her. And it only became worse when he dumped me and they started dating and she made my life a living hell where I was just living my life and in pain because of them and she constantly bullied me and made fun of me and tried to feed this negativity (things like 'omg that relationship is going to fail'), while he allowed her to interfere instead of discussing his issues with me directly. It got to a point where I started noticing she was talking about me to him, making me look bad when she didn't even know me, and at the time I realised, with all the flirting, it was because she was interested in him and wanted to make me seem like a bad person. He started abusing me after she started talking badly about me, which isn't a coincidence, and I'm glad I'm over him, but I'm not over the trauma, and being back to being in love with my fwb who never wanted a relationship, while he seems to be with someone else (dating or not, but she's def been abusive towards me as well) after ghosting me for a year right after my ex cheated, and not really spend time with me, it's both triggering the past with my ex and its own situation. So it kinda depends on the friend, but as a general rule, I agree with the girl from the video. And also, to add to your point, I know I shouldn't think there's something wrong with me if someone cheats, but it does make you feel like you're not good enough for the other person, or that the other woman is better, it makes you insecure. It shouldn't, because it isn't your fault, but it does. I know this is a big rant, but also, I have to add that, whatever the case, a woman being abusive towards another woman who isn't aware of their relationship is pretty fkn shitty. Unless the woman does know, which still isn't an excuse to be abusive, but the abused woman who doesn't know wtf was happening and was suddenly getting harassed, doesn't have to put up with that bs without defending herself. It would be really nice to not look over the shoulder constantly because someone behaves like that tbh, but trust is something you have at first, and over time it erodes when it's betrayed, so if there is no actual cheating, it's possible to rebuild but idk.

I can't tell if that guy in the second clip is trying to convince her or himself that she wouldn't leave him if he cheated. Probably both tho lol. He's speaking as if cheating is something he can't control. Like he looks worried about it. As if he already did it, or he knows that he going to, cuz he can't help himself. Pathetic, truly pathetic.

And that is how hypocrites get nailed by the King 👑

Why tf would he think someones gonna take that if they love that person? Like my partner deserves more respect than that. Id never ever cheat, but if for some fucked reason i did, he 10000000% should leave my ass. Nobody i love should be treated that way wtf why would you want that for your partner? Theyre called a partner for a reason, youre supposed to have their best interest in heart. Thats so messed up i hope that woman gets treated like the Queen she is, that boy is a damn joke.

Glare, this podcast isn’t working for me 🤣

Glare, I’ve looked long and hard for the right woman, and my conclusion:

And that's why I don't have a TikTok account 😅😅😅😂😂😂😊😊

Better to know sooner than later

I see why men are more lonely then women. (Edit) I still stand by my point however I know not all men are like that and I do hope the good men will rise above it💛

Why do I know someone who acts like this guy?

My kids dad (horrible back story involves court as well) has told me he wasnt a whore hes a whore maker

There is these spesific rules in monogamous relationships right? For cheaters they are there only because they dont want their partner to do things with other people like they are doing. In the same way some people try to excuse the cheating on spesific gender. Try to prevent their partner acting the same they are. Selfish and hypocrite behaviour.

OCEANS 11 LEVEL 🤣

I feel like the people that are involved in the kind of craziness on Tik-Tok are literally the fuck around and find out generation and they just haven't found out yet. Also whenever you see those dudebro podcasters that talk about cheating and talk about women and talk about other really misogynistic things, nine times out of 10 they're not in a stable relationship or even any at all and they feel qualified to give relationship advice. There's even a couple of Lady dude bros (I won't mention her name specifically,because she shouldn't get views), that have the same toxic feelings about relationships and surprise surprise perpetually single.

TikTok's Delusional Takes would be a good name for either a band or a race horse.

„U look rly easy to stab“ … saying sth like tht makes u creepy… like you’re trying to find someone to hurt… why would you say that… 13:44

Some people do not belong in monogamous relationships, and that's ok. I have a friend who has cheated on every gf he has had. I have told him that he really needs to stop getting into monogamous relationships because they arent for him and theres nothing wrong with that. Our society still looks at poly as if its a bad thing so i cant blame people for thinking they can handle monogamy but hurting people because you dont have self control isnt ok.

If there were more people with the mindset of the girl from the 3rd video, the world would be a better place.

No I agree!I don’t subscribe too any conversation’s about this topic though I get recommended this contradicting content constantly it’s why I deleted all social media ‘as you say’ “With the worst takes” I’ve never cheated and never will.. I have ptsd from parents past acts, who ever dose this it is weak and sinfully disgusting end of and I’m not even a religious person but it’s biblical

Cheating is one of the worst things you can do to someone. I've been cheated on and it's one of the most traumatic things ever I would like yo say though that this video is a bit one sided. Not complaining but it does show a bit of confirmation bias to anyone who clicks this video that might be sexist thus negatively reinforcing their world view.

Loved that video with the woman at around 10min doing some realtalk about what actually being faithful to one another means. Cheating isn't something that just happens, it's a decision about how much you value a relationship. Also it's about how much you value yourself and your reputation. I'm not even saying that there aren't situations where i can understand that decision or even support it. I'm rather radical about bodily autonomy and therefore I believe that if someone can't get out of a relationship (which can have different reasons) and their partner uses that leverage to force them to agree to be monogamous, I don't consider that truly consensual and therefore would argue that anyone in a situation like this has the right to lie and cheat to bypass the rules that their "partner" tries to force on them. But that's not related to relationships that people plan to continue instead of just working towards getting out. If you actually want to be in a monogamous relationship, you shouldn't even consider cheating on your partner. And personally, I also never did until that second half of my longest and last monogamous relationship where after 3 years, I wanted to end it and she got me to stay another 3 years by threatening to kill herself if i left - only to drop me like a hot potato when I came out as transsexual. I didn't actually cheat on her because like I said, it's also a matter of self-respect to me - but I considered it during that time and only during that time. When my first girlfriend (i was 20, she was 24) offered me to have sex with other women to ensure I wouldn't feel like I missed out on something, I didn't even consider that. I also didn't consider checking up on a partner of mine out of jealously. I eventually swore myself to never have a monogamous relationship again after those 3 years of i dunno what to call it in retrospect. I don't want anyone to command over my body and my life like this. I also don't want to command about someone else's body and life. That feels (!) to me (!!) like it's just entirely disgusting to even think about. So I don't do it anymore. I am now dating polyamorous only and I am very straightforward about it. Works for me and for my primary partner and for whoever we respectively or mutually date besides each other...

I love how you're at 666k ❤❤❤ ^-^ rad!

If anyone keeps their phone on lock, you must ask why. Love your podcasts x

Cheating is always bad no matter what but if my partner was to cheat at least be in love with the other women instead of using other women just for sex 😑

Does anybody know the names of the couple in the video?

I love that angry head shake that black women have. 😮😅

Hi Glare! 😍🥰😘

str8 culture is so alien to me lol

Yes 10000000%

Wait you said you're not in a relationship? Did you get divorced???

you believe woman and men are equal thats why you dont get it

Yeahhh babyyy

So I’m totally not defending cheating. But I do think as a society, we push monogamy on people when it is very much not our natural state. Religion and societal expectations are what has pushed monogamy and marriage to be the main way we live our lives. And for many many many many people, that’s just not realistic or the best way to be living your life. But a lot of people don’t want to acknowledge that and that is why cheating and other things like that happen. So many people are not willing to be honest with themselves