How about a 90s-00s Euro Touge match? Watch VW get squashed by BMW. 😅

probably not the best for views but I'd love to see the same thing but you and Jimmy switch cars :D

Yeah I'd love to see more of you two together.

Definitely

And to think, you just got off Twitch at a good time. 😁

This format but done on Tsukuba would be so cool👀

suzuka or twin ring or even sugo are great circuits for a jdm comparaison

Yeeeeeeeeeeeees!!

the course looks like hot version's gunsai touge maybe a bit wider. it's at least inspired by it

Yessss!

We came to the same conclusion. Don't worry, we ran the correct weight, (1775kg incl driver) I think that it still ended up a bit too fast & that the tyres/suspension were the reason.

@@NateLupson the street tyres has a semi slicks physics :(( you could easilt check these cars turning strenght using G meter

CG height is also about 200mm too low, yikes!

@@NateLupson ah, makes sense, I kinda suspected something other than just weight was up because it had basicaly zero body roll and seemed to grip way to well

@@houseking9211 Yeah, we lifted the car about 200mm and corrected the gear ratios too but clearly there's a lot more inherently off about it. Probably wouldn't take much to get it 90% of the way there, but the changes were made kinda last minute and we didn't have the time.

Next on the Jimmy Broadbent KZfaq channel. Touge racing with special guest commentator Dagogo Altraide... I'm in... I'm so in.

ColdFusion is not the channel I expected to see commenting here, but it's awesome. Love your work!

The crossover we need

Yeah me too, that would have been interesting to see.

Pulsar GTI-R would have a nice chance against most competition, The GT-FOUR depending on which gen would perform like a 3000GT with less hp and less weight( id say the ST185 would be far superior to the more underwhelming ST205), and the civics would have the superior turning handling but would probably lose every time because of the final strait.. Those are my takes

I think you're underestimating the ST205 or overestimating the ST185 personally.

throw in a Mazda 3 MPS as well to have a fwd battle with the civic ep3 type R, power vs handling.

​@@stevieboymkii Yeah, isn't the st205 just a straight upgrade from the st185? Performance should be close to the STI and EVO.

I think the American cars from this time would struggle, but modern ones would do pretty decently

American boat togue. Yes please. They won't be fast but it would be quite entertaining to try and get them down the run.

The Ford Fiesta on touge just devours corners, so yeah, that'd be fun.

Boat touge. The Bouge.

Oh god, all the old solid rear axle muscle cars would just slam into trees all the way down

Yes yes. We need more of this

That's a very NZ 90s car Scene line up

@@christopherjohnston6343 guilty, basically I just want all the best motoring races but irl

Well as much of realization yuichi tried to put on istuki it turned out the 85 was one of the fastest cars in gunma when it was all said and done takumi proved it by not only blowing by iketani but also a S15 with minor issues that takumi quickly adapted to

I had to make it sure on wiki, but I remembered correctly, the 85 had an 1.5 SOHC engine, they even mentioned it on the show that it's SOHC

@@bencevarga6304 yeah nothing special but proved to be good

@@speedhunter7156 I think it's a major dramatization to show his skills though, a completely stock sohc AE85 with old tires wouldn't even be able to last 2 minutes on Mt Akina against a stock s15 before it would just be so far behind, there are just too many long straights really. a stock AE86 can't last 3 minutes against a stock s15 even with the best driver in reality. Mt Akina is also an extremely long and straight course with only a small number of hairpins compared to straights compared to say, Usui pass where there is only a few fast straights consisting of mostly corners and hairpins where a more knowledgeable driver * could * in theory outpace an s15 with a stock 85 and that's pushing it.

@@ThatSlow5.0tC well the thing is that Takumis 86 wasnt stock at all if they had used at least the tuned a86 in ac it would already have done better

It’s fun to see what they look like functioning properly 🤓

The MR2 was cool too

@@kylelanger8611 HEYYYYY

sounds biased somehow

The maths add up, it’s 50% better than a Toyota 2000GT

the kunos RX7 is genuinely one of the nicest and most predictable cars in Assetto, add to that a good 70 or so HP over the S2k with not that much more weight, and so far as stock goes, the RX7 is damn near unfair

The s2k got robbed

The Rx7 was designed by Mazda to literally be the perfect touge car right out of the factory, it would get beaten by the NSX and GTR on a more traditional long sweeping circuit but in tight mountain roads it is the king, even in real life, the FEED RX7 is the fastest car around best motorings touge course.

@@jamfd3s788the Js S2000 vs the FEED RX7 rivalry has been awesome to watch over the years currently the RX7 is the champ but it won’t be long before Js claps back

@@Skendybendie The RX7 is my favorite car of all time but the Js s2000 is a badass machine I've definitely enjoyed watching them battle it out their channel.

It’s a joke😑

Fr I would be playing for hours and hours

Two of the coolest jdms imo

@@Zinul R32 GTR is my dream car (also the 288 GTO, but that's an actual pipe dream). Currently have a 91' FC turbo 2 and can confirm it's a cool little car, drives like a kart, the weight distribution is beatiful.

Yeah that mod has fucked brake balance, if you use tire slip app you can see that it brakes with rear brakes more than the front

Nope these are community made mods

no lol most of these cars either converted from GT or Forza@@mtnmoo

Yeah, almost everything besides the engine was tuned. Rally transmission gearing, suspension tune, brakes weren't factory either... That 86 was a low power beast, purpose built to train Takumi from the ground up. The other half of that legend was just Takumi driving way more than most racers ever could afford, at the start of the show he has been driving illegally for years.

I think the 86 tuned or whatever its called in AC is that. It's the fastest car on all these servers

@@pentilex4338 well yeah even if they used that it would already been much higher in place

It’s secretly the best one

A rocket ship when tuned but no good for twisty stuff.

@@v4skunk739 I fully agree on that one. Feels like an old 70's US car in corners🤣

Shut up

It was getting smoked by the S14

The Model they had gave it to much grip. They also had to fix weight and suspension issues. So disregard the Mitsubishi it was a poor model.

Also in defense of initial D, the main character never drove a stock 86, pops had him in a sleeper since the start

The RX7 looks more controllable though.

@@humandroid53oh it absolutely is. The RX7 has a fun but controllable slide to it where the NSX could put you into the ditch at any moment. It’s hard to deny the grip from the nsx out of the hairpins though

However in real life the 90’s Celica is King of Pikes Peak, and countless WRC wins. Even stock GT-4/All-Trac Group A beats all (Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche) in 21st century - Adelaide Rally Anyone.

Given the MX-5 debuted in '89, I think it belonged in this video rather than your (great!) idea. Add the Celica as well, maybe have it race a Supra in the first round to show the evolution of the car.

why didnt he have it in this video? it says every JDM car but it wasnt @@JeanPaulConnock

Yup as a FD enjoyer the nsx should've won Both are very revvy engines btw the rotarys just happen to have peak torque near limiter Idk the power band of the nsx But ik na v6 with vtec it should be the same both are revvy but Mid engine rwd is a bit tricky while front mid engine rx7 is predictable and can be tossed in the corners like nobody's business still They're both of my dream jdm cars cuz of this

More power and stiffer more track oriented suspension of the nsx plays to it's advantage while fd has the boost in straights and handling with the 50/50 weight distribution Both evenly amazingly balanced but technically with better driving nsx has the slight edge

as a miata owner imma be honest its not getting a single round

And even initial d made a point that great technique can only take you so far. Eventually you’ll have to move on to a faster one if you want to improve even further. “If you don’t learn to spread your wings, you hit the ground.” - Bunta when he has Takumi drive the Impreza

@@skrublordnord69 Yeah. the AE-86 is a good car for learning to drift/race. it's small, light and has just enough power to be fun, just like a Miata. But since the Initial D franchise is loosely based on Keiichi Tsuchiya's life and he's a big AE-86 fan, the car is put on a pedestal. Don't get me wrong, that little Corolla is a good machine, but c'mon It can't beat all the cars in the manga that easily lol

@@Henry.25 facts. I get they put a better engine in but the race with the s2000 shouldn’t have even been a question. And yeah they do mention that in that episode but he still won lol I will say tho, I’m glad the end of the 86 was winning a race against another 86. Such a fitting end to that car, even if there’s a lot of plot armor leading up to it

@@Henry.25 as someone who recently got into the show, as sadly I never got to watch it as a kid, I started agreeing with that car being as good as the show said. Then I started driving it in racing games and that’s when I saw just how underpowered the car really was. Ik I drove it in Roblox, I don’t have a pc or AC so I can’t really drive an accurate version of it in the same courses that are in the show. So I played Roblox instead. And it was a good two months of practicing and tuning to try to push that car to its limit and my own. I learned a lot for sure, but I also learned that there’s some cars you just have no chance in beating, no matter how good of a driver you are or how well you know the course. I’ll still hold the car near and dear to my heart, and I’ll still have fun racing other underpowered cars in it. But no way am I gonna say it’s viable against the more powerful ones. And ik Tsuchiya himself even won against an r34 but he’s a god of a driver. And even HE says the car has its limits.

@@skrublordnord69 The AE-86 is indeed a underpowered car, but driving a slower car can be very useful, especially in corners. A powerful car can't stay in full throttle on a tight corner so it ends up losing time and because of higher speeds it also spends more time breaking. If you watch Keiichi Tsuchiya, AE86 vs. GTR-R34 you'll realize that a lighter car that doesn't need a lot of breaking power can stay accelerating for longer and that's how you can beat a R34 with an AE-86. But to be fair, you'll probably need at least 300whp on a very balanced and optimized car to beat an original R34 using the corners as advantage points (if you aren't called Tsuchiya). If I'm not wrong, both Tsuchiya's AE-86's that beat the R34 had 1.8L 4A-GE engines with 180hp and weighted 2,000 lb max, In comparison the R34 GTR weighs 3,400 lb and has 290~320hp. In the end, the AE-86 is good at teaching the driver the limits of their abilities and the basics of driving fast, but the car is limited to only this. If you want to be competitive, especially in drifting, you'll need at least a 1JZ with 400hp. I don't know how Roblox works, but I would recommend a 350z or a Toyota Cresta/Chaser mod

They were tuned though

@@beanmw96 there in the top 10 for stock as well the amg gtr black series is the fastest stock

As a Z32 owner, I definitely wanted to see a more fair comparison, but I understand it wasn’t their fault at all.

The RX-7, GT-R & Supra were all mods too, not the Japanese Pack DLC cars. Like you say though, the tyres did differ a bunch between cars and that unfortunately is just how it is with AC modding. Different authors will have different tyres. I'd love for there to be a 'standard' tyre that everyone could use.

I don't even think AC can simulate things like active suspension or four wheel steering.

​@@opmike343not sure on active/adaptive suspension, but it has capabilities for active awd, active aero, and 4 wheel steering, the first and last ones are even featured on vanilla cars (R34 and 911GT3RS are the main examples coming to mind)

ac alrady can simulator four wheel steering since skyline gtr released@@opmike343

Even before the touring car engine, it had a pretty noticeable amount done to it. Bunta had tuned the suspension and a few other things before Takumi ever started racing.

Trust me if they are real jdm fans they def know about that especially if they know KT

He mentioned him in other touge videos, he dosen t have to mention him everytime

Seeing as it's no longer 2013, youtubers aren't obligated to reference the DK every 5 seconds anymore.