Yep!!

100% the mormon stories podcast is way more thoughtful and nuanced then this video.

I agree! They actually have a healthy conversation and bring up some really good points from both sides. This video kinda just kinda didn't sit right with me. It just seems like a bunch of people making fun of the other side like high schoolers gossiping or something. Didn't love this

That’s their audience. These guys are COMEDIANS.

Ward Radio is not a "mature" channel. They set out to reach an audience that's not necessarily politicized, including teenagers. Mormon Stories would have a similar kind of audience as Jacob Hansen's channel, for example - not Ward Radio.

When we get attacked, people call us cowards. When we go on their show, with their ridiculous questions and their moderator, but we defend ourselves, they chop 3 hrs down to 50 minutes and declare victory. Truth was never cool. Never will be.

@@WARDRADIO I mean all of that is just your opinions dancing around the fact that none of y’all really made any good points to the objective third party viewers as far as I can see. I don’t know if you can blame editing purely off that. Analogizing homosexuality to terminal illness (which is what the world is clowning you for) and believing that was somehow a good point likely wasn’t the editors fault.

@@WARDRADIO Truth is simple. Lies are complicated. They require perfect context. Round about explanations. That is the challenge you have, and the reason real Mormons / leaders cannot defend it.

@@WARDRADIO the more you blame others for your shortcomings, the more your shortcomings are lit up for the world to see. Take the L and try to be better the next time.

Cardon, it almost sounds like you're saying, "we always win, unless the competition is rigged." There wasn't even a competition to be had here. You had an opportunity to show the world that Mormons can be open minded, thoughtful and considerate particularly when engaging with those who have left. Not only did you completely botch the initial opportunity, your response is 10x worse. Take some time to reflect, man.

It's just locker room talk. ;)

First thing I noticed too! So telling. They are so tactless and so immature

I agree! @@nicole0225

The exmo reaction was a scripted deception. Exactly what a pretender and an apostate would do. If someone wants to leave the church, that's their right. But leaving the church because all of a sudden it isn't true when God himself answered the prayer asking to know in the first place, that's another story. So what church is he attending now? None just like Dehlin, who hunts for people who exactly have left the church with a grudge or are willing to pretend they were members and lie. Those are facts.

@@nicole0225 You mean as opposed to the straight out lies exmos tell?

Jk they shout out to Bella in the last 3 minites

You are right ... as gentleman ... we could and should do a better job respecting everyone, including woman ~ instead of horsing around and making crude jokes all the time ~ instead of just some of the time. Nevertheless ... You are in the right and I am in the wrong. Your remarks are just and intelligent. I regret making the bad jokes and the oversight of not calling others by name. I am sorry. Please accept my apology. BTW ... It was Bella ... the Relief Society President is, I think, something or another Johnson (Camille, I just looked up her first name); but I know for sure that the Prophets wife's name is Wendy. If they asked the prophet's wife's name, I think everyone would have gotten it. I don't know our local bishop's wife's name, I just say ~ hello bishop's wife ~ but I do know our local Relief Society presidents name. I am 70+ now and ... We'll do better. We promise. That will give me something to do on the way to 80. Thank you for your reminder to get back on the right path and stay on it. You said and done what's right. Thank you. peace.

Not necessary for salvation so whatever

People they spent 3 hours...a month prior, combined with the fact that name are hard and not like they had nametags on when they were chatting

It made me cringe out of my skin when they called them “girls”. What does someone have to do to be seen as a woman by Mormon men? Or are we always infantilized and dismissed this way our entire lives?

Nope. I actually blame myself. I saw this coming and asked to be able to record the whole thing myself for security and they assured me the full 3 hours would be available in its entirety on Patreon and it wasn’t. So again, a Mormon trusts someone who wants to misrepresent him and gets burned… totally typical. But whatever… I took the risk.

@@WARDRADIO Holy crap dude, you sound pathetic. Do you just constantly play the victim whenever you lose at something?

@@WARDRADIO I'd love to see the full video as well! Have you contacted them about them not honoring this commitment? That is very dishonest they haven't released it when they said they would. Does Jubilee typically do this?

Goofy ahh

@@WARDRADIO I don't know if this is Cardon talking, but if it was edited to make it favorable for one side another, Cardon made himself look bad without the need of edits to do so.

As a Non-LDS Christian, you have a vested interest in Mormonism looking bad, especially if you're evangelical

@@dillon7748 I disagree. I don’t have a vested interest in Mormonism looking bad. Some of my best friends are LDS 😁

@@dillon7748 Mormonism does a fine job of making itself look bad on its own.

@dillon7748 as a non religious person mormonism makes it self look bad! The amount of ex mormons who have religious trauma should be enough of an indication of the 'badness' of it! A 'high demand/control religion' is different to a 'religion' I also think making people pay to br part of a religion (becoming a multi billion dollar business )is dodgy at best. They obviously don't want their money stopping. So if they control and put fear and also actively try and provent members from leaving that is obviously problematic and looks bad!

@@dillon7748As a life long active member, I agree with him. The majority of the comments on the Jubilee video are negative about the Mormon points. It was a W for ex-mo arguments without a doubt in my mind.

I truly agree. I feel like it would be worth removing that, frankly, nasty take from this video. It's just not true.

@@dillanconrad I noticed I was getting a lot of mo’s parroting this line on the msp recap when anyone mentioned Tember, regardless of what was actually said. It’s really atrocious

@@harryabelpotter9630 Wow. Questioning a woman's education. How very old male Mormon you are...Congratulations.

to: @@MsUnknown300 re: The Church of J E S U S C H R I S T of Latter-day-Saints . You called us Mormon... Please Do Not Call Us Mormons Anymore. . You may have missed the press release or perhaps for one of many other possible reasons you may not have yet decided to respect this request. Nevertheless, if you haven't heard, we are asking all honest, descent people to respect us in this request in as much as, among other reasons, Mormon is a nickname that is many times used with a derogatory connotation that our enemies and critics use against us. Therefore, I am personally & respectfully requesting … Please do not call us Mormons anymore. You can call us: ~ The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ~ The Church of Jesus Christ ~ The Church Also, Please do not call us LDS for similar reasons. You can call us: ~ Latter-day Saints ~ Saints, or ~ Christians But, please … I am humbly & respectfully requesting Do not call us LDS anymore, and, Do not call us Mormons anymore. . Now... Let's unpack your comment. . RE: questioning education level . You are entitled to your own opinion ~ you are not entitled to your own facts. . YOU SAID Wow. REPLY Wow yourself... . YOU SAID Questioning a woman's education. REPLY no... learn to read ... learn to reason ... learn to write ... I am not questioning a woman's education ~ I am questioning a woman about her education because she shows signs of the inability to have an intelligent conversation. ... just exactly like you ~ . Nevertheless, in doing so ... I said that my conclusion was based on my stupid old man brain ~ and that I could be wrong ~ hence, I asked directly and politely. unlike your comment. Why are you mean and rude to old people ~ Why don't you love your Elders ~ . YOU SAID How very old male [Christian] you are...Congratulations. REPLY You said Mormon. Are you an anti-Mormon troll? How long have you been a troll? Why are you a troll? . Nevertheless, to reply to the major point of your comment ~ you are wrong ~ it is not a male thing ~ it is a common old persons habit to correct the mistakes of the children ~ men and women alike. ~ I just happen to be an old stupid man. But if I am an old stupid man ~ what's that make you ... that's rhetorical, don't tell me, I don't want to know. So.... Let's recap ... Older men AND women correct the mistakes of children and direct them to education. and they, the children... they complain and cry about it. Wah, waaah, wa ... A person, a parent, an older person corrects a young-in's spelling and they cry like babies foul, wa, wa, wa... They don't love the person~ they love their spell check. Instead of saying thank you ... Thank you ... sir ... . You go tell your parents ~ Harry Potter said ... They failed as parents. . And ... here's my advice to you. learn to read ... learn to reason ... learn to write ... . grow up ... learn to respect your elders ~ male or female. . AND Stop trolling older people. We are subject to high blood pressure and heart attack. If I didn't have a "good" heart, you might have killed me. . and stop calling us Mormons. and in the meantime while we are waiting for that to happen we wish you well. . S A L U T A T I O N S . Sirius Black said, "We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are." Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix . You’ve been potterized, by Professor Potter, 'Elder Potter' Harry Abel Potter, a very able potter. . Expecto Patronum !!! ================== * * * * * .

Go easy on him. Jubilee probably edited this video to make him look bad 😢

Or even did a little prep work and learned their names when they filmed this video, right? Mormon Stories recap video managed just fine.

The lame excuse of not being able to remember everyone's names doesn't hold water when they clearly watched the video, which has all their names displayed on screen a regular basis. Also, the only three names they don't remember also just happen to be every single woman in the video. They remember John, they remember Dillan (sometimes, when he's not "the gay guy"), they remember Tember. Bella, Liz, and Jillian are "the girl, the feminist, and the lesbian" to them, or collectively, "the girls." It's so condescending. I thought the church preached humility, but these guys can't even own up to the fact that they messed up here.

Because they didn’t care enough to even listen to their perspectives. Only wanted to hear their own voices.

It was so fun to watch the mormon control freakery and dialogue suppression happen in real time. Mormons are typically good at hiding that from the public eye. I remember being in BYUI and a guy said something along the lines of "I think God leads people down many different paths and that there isn't just one correct way to live." And no joke, almost every single other guy in that room encircled him with their chairs and immediately tried to shut it down. I don't even think mormons realize they're like this because they're so brainwashed Edit: typo

Even though I quit the LDS "church" and am NOT going back, I felt for Bella. I sincerely hope she finds happiness in this life, however she gets there.

@@CatfishOnly Bella was the best person on their team. She was actually treating people with grace, respect, and compassion. She was the most Christ-like person on team Christ, and I wish her teammates would humble themselves and learn from her example.

❤

Had they said “women” they would have been attacked as well. Or told not to “misgender”, or assume “gender”. It was a lose lose situation for anyone who disagrees with the extreme secularist anything goes western pop-culture.

Sooo embarrassing. They needed all that editing to still look horrible? What a joke.

So much worse! And he's able to edit it here! So much cringe!

Cutting out his bs probably helped him 😂

Cardon has no self awareness.

And in the Ex Mormon video, they talk about how they think Jubilee's editing made him look better by cutting out a lot of his awkward comments. Incredible

I mean...fair :)

I think that's true. I don't think the leaders of the church give enough leeway for members to really be nuanced. And I think that's what's killing the religion is the rigidness.

​@@TrevorThatBandanaGuyAnd the internet

@@TrevorThatBandanaGuykind of like a cult would ... huh

Might depend on the ward, but usually for sure. Especially in 2015 when I was in

totally, also him jumping into the conversation and talking instead of listening. tone deaf

Spot on! Thank you. It's clearly that these mormon men have zero respect for women. And it says a lot about them and their church. Any non-member who watches that debate would run from momons as far as they can.

I love you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Or maybe this was filmed almost a month ago and we don’t remember their names… but that wouldn’t fit into your cruel, woke, dumpster-fire narrative, would it?

​@@WARDRADIOif you go watch the Mormon stories podcast that covers this as well, they all named every single person in that video. If they were able to do it, so can you. Also addressing the women as "girls" tells me everything.

@@k3nnarooroo78 of course if that’s gonna be their talking point, they’ll memorize everyone’s names. You prove nothing. You don’t want to converse or learn and I can already tell you hate us and the church, so just go away please. You’re not interesting or edgy.

The way they complain about the editing on the jubilee video but if this reaction is any indication jubilee was doing them a HUGE favor. This is just embarrassing.

You really are clueless.

100%! It shows a BLATANT lack of integrity! It shows their lack of character! 😞

I’m an exmormon, and they made me become Mormon again. Just kidding… this is so cute though. The debate isn’t fair though, nobody could do a better job than these guys. The church leaders would never be able to participate in something like this, because people have to be accountable. I respect these guys for trying and joining the program. But they are right, the debate is not fair for them, because they are trying to defend a dishonest organization. That makes their job 10000x more difficult.

Well oh ye of little faith 😅😂

You’re validated, ignore anyone who says you don’t have enough faith lol. Hard to stay a member after watching that disaster on jubilee. Lol.

@@markyoung2246 ME TOO !! I can't be part of this - I can't sleep or eat that I have spent my life in this Cult- its coming all at once

@@jamesricks what would a non Christian like you know?

they never did that until after the fact they did it first. its giving the same energy

Reductive descriptors isn’t our problem. Twisting our intentions and words, is.

@@WARDRADIO you're intentions and words were as clear day my guy. You very clearly stated what you believed in and so did the others... you guys forget that the positions you hold are no longer mainstream or popular for that matter... there has been a rising acceptance of homosexuality over the past 2 decades, women do have a lot more representation in positions of power... no one's twisting you words and intentions, if the shoe fits, lace that b*tch up and run.😗

You're intentions were as clear as day and the truth is the positions you hold have no significant cultural standing... acceptance of gay folks has only gone up, women hold more positions of power... you are not in favour of that, so if the shoe fits lace that girl up and run.

Sick deflection my guy lol

So the only world you'd be satisfied with is if there were two presidents, one always a man and one a woman? Curious, what is a woman, Miranda?

@@WARDRADIO you are twisting this comment. the point is what if the top woman was merely important enough for you to know her name.

​@@WARDRADIO surely it's more about actually having a voice. Right now an exec-sec is in bishopric meetings sometimes on the stand. Yet woman leaders are never even going to have that position or be included in weekly bishopric meetings as a norm - when their opinions and council can have a unique positive impact on a ward

What an awful reductive response and a completely unnecessary dig at another minority group too. I think your reactions here are quite telling about your attitudes towards women and equality generally, much less in the church. You feel the moderators put you in a bad light? You are proving that bad attitude here. @@WARDRADIO

​@@VisciousFallouthe'll defend his poor behavior until he's removed and deplatformed and then sky scream about how it's all unfair.

Always two faced....maybe three faced. There's the bare my testimony version, this obnoxious radio version, and wannabe taken seriously by the world public version.

@@emac1177 💯

I was shocked when I watched the video. They put on a completely different persona in the jubilee video vs how they act on their own channel. They feel comfortable spewing hate speech in their own videos, but aren't willing to say it to anyone's face.

@@emac1177 Seems you're the one with the problem.

The guys a liar. Get over it.

And who are you to ignore the constant lying by exmos and fake members but criticize this? Don't bother you're in the aforementioned groups.

Highly distasteful representation of a Christlike church.

@@TheeUnholyTrinity Only liars are distasteful. And any who follow them.

I want my brain cells back. Ward Radio is tone deaf. Think of how they will look in 20 years. So sad for them

@@JoandArc5005 Your brain cells are long gone. Typical hypocrite.

Come on man

Fair question

It's pretty rare for someone to make my mouth drop but I was utterly astounded when he made that comparison. I'm not even liberal and I thought that was way over the line

It was beyond wild. It was an attempt at emotional manipulation.

@@jonbaker476 100%. I lean conservative as well. When he compared cancer to being gay, I was shocked. He can twist it however he wants but we heard what he said. I'm sure Cardon is a good person and I rally with him on his recovery. But, he is not a good representative of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mormons have been repeating the same catch phrases since I was a child. The problem is, they don't stand up under scrutiny. People should never follow blindly without looking at the bigger picture and how it affects the people excluded or targeted.

Came here to say the same thing.

same

Wow, took the words out of my mouth, 100% agree

i was going to say the same thing!! i’ve seen this so many times from members of the church that i shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but based on the way he presented himself in the jubilee video i wasn’t expecting it at all

Mormonism 101: say things that you wish were true.

Strong MAGA energy with this lot. They’ve clearly been indoctrinated by two cults.

It's giving, "we'd act more like Jesus if our enemies weren't such stupid pieces of shit" vibes. Great look. Super inviting.

Proud to be an exmormon, those guys on MSP are so kind, genuine, and informed. Can't say the same for ward radio.

Thus is one of the deepest rooted issues with the lds church. Super nice in public, very terrible in private. This is how the church as an institution, and the individual members act

@@kifrenky Yes, JD was reeeeally genuine towards Rosebud, Kate Kelly and a bunch of other women.

Let's help him out. Synonyms & Similar Words Relevance classify rank distinguish relegate categorize distribute sort separate group identify organize place type grade recognize compartmentalize class digest file list systematize range order refer peg break down catalog dispose assort compartment cull alphabetize index marshall catalogue shelve reclassify array draw up marshal sift winnow pigeonhole regroup set sieve clump recategorize cluster subcategorize screen

codifyyyyyyy lol

Cardon: “blah blah blah blah codify blah blah blah…” ExMos: DRINK!!

@@meleniemacgregor2302 bet kwaku would drink, too! He likes to party

@@MsUnknown300 Perhaps, but he’s not someone I would choose to have a drink with.

Cause it is bad

Oh, trust me, the church did not need these for people to make the church look bad. The church looks bad all on their own lol.

This comment right here makes me laugh. Cardon you are embarrassing and lack critical thinking. You’re a loser.

That's just the church homie. They didn't say anything that was false

The Brethren may come across better because of their wisdom and experience in public settings, perhaps. But their actual responses, dealing with facts,and arguments would likely be no more church-affirming than Ward Radio’s.

Their beliefs create the culture...they don't even recognize the link and how much of the world they judge and shut out. They just can't see it.

Yup....calling Bella "the girl" and Jillian "the girl in the green shirt" in their discussion here, LOL. They didn't even care enought to learn their names.

@@gigig1954 or recognize that you are adults. Since 12 year old boys have more authority in the church then women, I guess women don't count. The sexism runs so deep they don't even see it. They also refuse to be corrected and learn how to improve.

It should also be noted that Cardon's classic argument about Mormons being an abolitionist threat to the government is just laughable. Open your scriptures to D&C 134:12, "we do not believe it right to interfere with bond-servants, neither preach the gospel to, nor baptize them contrary to the will and wish of their masters, nor to meddle with or influence them in the least to cause them to be dissatisfied with their situations in this life..." Maybe Joseph Smith ran his failed presidential bid on an abolitionist platform, but apparently God is pro slavery.

Cardon is totally willing to take SOME of Tember’s gayness. SOME! Cardon is willing to be a little gay if it would take away his cancer, but wasn’t trying to compare being gay to an illness. SMH

⁠@@haileyroszel9786 so only a little gayness is equal to having cancer. He didn’t say he would take being completely gay so by this logic being totally gay is worse than having cancer and losing twenty years of life. You are right he wasn’t comparing gayness to an illness he was stating that being gay is worse than a cancer.

This is just Cardon lying again. He’s not good at it but does it SO much.

Also- being queer is not comparable to having a *life threatening disease* 🥴. I mean. When I was still in the church I might’ve made the same comparison. Talk to actual queer people and LISTEN when they tell you the comparisons you make are so incredibly harmful. Carson’s views on the lgbtq are so incredibly harmful in THIS video that was supposedly edited to make him look good- AS WELL as the jubilee video. Can’t blame the editor for this one, bud.

And idiots use words they can't define... like "cult"

Can't define, or in your case, refuse to acknowledge? No sane person can look at the temple videos and tell me that isn't a cult. You have been brainwashed by a convicted con-man but you are too naive to see it for yourself. @@WARDRADIO

I hope you find truth, you deserve it!@@WARDRADIO

the rainbow is more of that tbh

@@WARDRADIOcalling him an idiot, very Christ like

How did Kwaku do alright? His ONLY defense of the prophet's changing doctrines is that "a mass cosmology of epic proportions is being funneled through a 90 year man, he is doing the best he can, give him a break, so what if there are mistakes, the prophet will tell you what to believe, just believe it, until he tells you something different"

Agreed.

@@MaryLeonard-mj9ng"listen guys... it's just not fair to expect God to be some kind of miracle worker here."

@@MaryLeonard-mj9ng Yeah, that was a bit cringe. I'm sure they'll let him teach that to the seminary kids. "The prophet's a prophet except when he's not."

This is their norm. Kwaku was good at acting like a reasonable person in the jubilee video. I'm pretty sure Cardon is incapable of being a reasonable and mature human being.

well, they recorded it 2 months ago so ... how many names do you recall from one conversation you had 2 months ago?

If it was a conversation about something as important as my faith, I would hope I’d remember their names even after some time had passed. Then, two months later, as I was preparing to record a reaction podcast, if I didn’t remember their names, I would take a few minutes to watch enough of the Jubilee video to learn and make note of their names, so that I could refer to them by their names instead of giving them dismissive nicknames. Of course, I ask cashiers at the grocery store, “What’s your name?” so that when they hand me my receipt, I can thank them by name. Calling someone by their name is a way to validate them and let them know you “see” them. At least, I feel like it is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

​@@WARDRADIOOne month ago tomorrow. But I appreciate you remembering my name, even if Jubilee spelled it wrong in the actual video :)

@@dillanconrad You were amazing, “Dillian”!! 😂 Also, I agree and echo your support of Tember. I do NOT see him as a “traitor” and I wish him nothing but happiness.

@@meleniemacgregor2302 I absolutely do not see Tember as a traitor, either. I will admit that I felt sad for him, based on his responses in the filming, but it is his life. I can't say he isn't happy. I certainly hope he is. And no one on that panel wishes him to be unhappy or for his marriage to end. And no one on that panel ever said anything disparaging about his wife or kids, wishing that he wasn't married. It's just a lot of information to hear from someone that chose to live their live one way, and now lives their life another way. But that's exactly what I did. The main point is that we all wish Tember happiness. It doesn't mean it is/will be an easy road. But we all have our spiritual journeys.

yikes. which video did you watch?!

Oh I dunno I have no idea 🤪 don't be ridiculous ​@WARDRADIO

@@WARDRADIOYikes is right! Do better.

@WARDRADIO thanks for proving my points with a condescending and arrogant comment. 🙃 But if you must know, after watching this video, i also checked out a couple more of your videos and to be honest, those made this one actually look less bad than i originally thought. Because compared to your other videos, this one wasnt nearly as mean and nasty and hate filled as your others. For example, your response to the mississippi bishop was appalling. For grown men to come together and decide that the correct approach to defending yourselves against accusations of "an hour and a half of making fun of him" was to then make fun of him for 3 hours, is wild. Your approach is divisive and rage baiting. If your goals are to be examples of the LDS faith, strengthen the testimony of fellow believers, or lead people closer to Jesus... you have miserably failed and should take a hard look at your behavior and hearts.

Add in some gaslighting and ad hominem attacks - and you sum up every episode that I’ve ever seen.

hahahahhahahaha id say your spot on

​@@radybay9088😂

Nailed it

There is nothing else here😅

Ha hahaaa well said, well said😂😂👏👏👏

Exactly! Their goal is to demean! It’s gross! They have zero respect for others.

Couldn’t agree more. This video makes the jubilee look very fair.

What are you watching?

​@WARDRADIO Are you really going to keep pretending that you don't know? Makes me wonder if YOU know which video this one is?

lol, exactly. You have to get like multiple levels deep on hierarchical chart to reach the presiding bishop and that’s the equivalent of the highest women’s position. You’re making the ex-mo’s point for them lol

The presiding bishop oversees the a Aaronic priesthood and presides over Bishops throughout the world. They are part of the council that decides how tithing funds are spent, and part of the council that has the authority to disciple or remove the president of the church.

He's such a martyr protecting us from the gays and women who just want the priesthood. 🫡

He, and his other friends are being proven to be duplicitous liars.

Well, the toxic girl said the trial of being gay was too impossible for God to expect of anyone. Cardon said: "Well, I've got premature death awaiting me. That's pretty rough too." Then he gets cut off: "BEING GAY ISNT A TRIAL! ITS BEAUTOFUL!!! BLAAARGH!" Well, which is it? Is it a trial? Or is it beautiful? And they edited out all the rest of the interaction, btw

@@WARDRADIOwhy don’t you know any of the women’s names? take some accountability, man.

Grow up.

@@WARDRADIO👩‍🌾: I'm a carrot farmer by nature and I love that about myself. 👨🏻‍🍳: I smack carrot farmers with this spoon here because God tells me to. 👩‍🌾: I don't like being smacked with spoons. 👨🏻‍🍳: But you just said you love being a carrot farmer... 👩‍🌾: Yeah I did, and I also don't want to be smacked with spoons 👨🏻‍🍳: But God says carrot farmers get the spoon, so... are you a carrot farmer or not? 👩‍🌾: Again, I am but I think you're missing the point 👨🏻‍🍳: BLARRRGH!! Make up your mind! Do you love getting whacked or not!?!? 👩‍🌾: I love being a carrot farmer, that does not mean I love getting whacked with your damn spoon. 👨🏻‍🍳: Where's our one carrot farmer friend!?!? 👨‍🌾: Right here!! It's spoon spanky time!?? Spank me, Baker Daddy. 👨🏻‍🍳: See!? This guy gets it. Spoons are for spanking, carrot farmers are for getting spanked, everyone has their trial. Mine's cancer, yours is getting spanked with my spoon. Toma-to Tomah-to, what's the difference!? 👩‍🌾: Jesus Christ I need to get out of here

You're firing on 2 and a half brain cells, chief. The claim is: God would never ask a gay person to remain celibate or enter a mixed orientation marriage. That's too hard a trial to bear. Cardon's response was: I'm gonna die soon. That's pretty rough too? Yet I don't curse God for it. I remain faithful despite life being unfair. Now is this hard to understand?

I am on my way out of the Mormon spectrum but I sure feel for my nephew who is on his mission and my family that's still in WOW - we are not like these mormons at all. WHATS Going on here. Why does the church condone this behaviour - What about the bishops in the words of these folks - I am embarrassed beyond words

Well, you're an ExMo hater so ...

This taping was months ago they took a long time to edit the 3 hrs down to just 50 minutes, to make us look as bad as possible. In that time, we forgot their names.

@@WARDRADIOweird response. Who’s an “exmo” hater?

Even if you never bothered to learn their names during taping that’s a pretty weak excuse considering everyone’s names appear in the video you’re “reacting” to.

Such a breath of fresh air

his exno friends even admitted he molested a woman so why watch that

His point was a bit confusing. If you listen closely, it admits that the Lamenites did have darker skin than the Nephites, but it wasn’t actually a curse from God, Nephi just made that up because he was racist.

there are no africans or europeans in the BoM

I remember in the 80s before all of these "apologists" were born when the church took the lamanite kids from their families and tribes to try to make them assimilate to the white Mormon life. People would actually comment on how their skin was becoming lighter as they followed the gospel. There was a slide show story about a little native girl and how her skin was becoming white because she was righteous. You can find it on the internet. Pretty crazy stuff. But we believed it. The prophets led us astray when they taught that dark skin was a curse. I know you're too young to remember. I'm not that old, and i was alive when black people got the priesthood.

@@bbbarham6264 I'm sorry but that argument makes no sense to me. Their argument is that it's a metaphor for a darkened heart, but then why were the lamanites in 3 Nephi turned white and delightsome? They were the lamanites who were already righteous and had changed their ways for hundreds of years and had been living among the nephites that entire time. Was their darkened countenance not removed until hundreds of years after their conversion and might change of heart? What was it talking about if not their actual skin? This modern argument is nonsense and mormons know it

@@jonbaker476 Was just clarifying Kwaku’s point. But I agree with you, it doesn’t make any sense. The Lamenites were clearly cursed with dark skin.

Help Stop Bullying ... It is an insult to say that someone's comments are immature. Name-calling, mockery, and insults are ~ abusive, offensive, and a form of bullying. I am a Latter-day Saint and last I heard, bullying is not part of our religion. Are you a N.O.M. ... are you a Name Only Member?

​@@harryabelpotter9630but you're ok with Cardon being a bully aren't you

@@harryabelpotter9630only lazy learners and lax disciples would stoop to name calling. C'mon guys...

TO: @@EchoesfromtheTabernacle ... no mam ... no sir ... I don't think that Mr. Ellis is a bully because his personal relationships show that he does not have a biased prejudiced bone in his body ~ but rather I see a human being who has love for every person who has ever lived. Nevertheless, I am sure that you have not made this accusation for no reason at all ~ so I believe that he must have said something that is bothering you. ... and I am willing to listen. What's your biggest objection and greatest example of Mr. Ellis being a bully? peace.

TO: @@FWWillis RE: lazy learners & lax disciples lazy learners = people who talk about something that they know next to nothing about ~ something that maybe they should or could have know a lot more about. . lax disciples = people who forget that if you want to get to heaven in regards to the commandments you can neither be heedless, irresponsible, nor negligent. . now... let's unpack what you've said... . YOU SAID only lazy learners and lax disciples would stoop to name calling. REPLY Active, industrious, and energetic learners also stoop to name-calling. Strict and dedicated disciples have also slipped and participated in name-calling. As the above examples are counter-examples to your point ~ they prove ~ Your statement is a false statement. So... What does that tell us about you! . YOU SAID C'mon guys... REPLY I'm not your guy ~ guy. I am a 70 year old gentleman. Respect your Elders ~ no matter how old they are. . Now... Do you have a point ... if so ... I am willing to listen. . S A L U T A T I O N S . “I dreamed I was buying new shoes last night," said Ron. "What d'ya think that's gonna mean?" "Probably that you're going to be eaten by a giant marshmallow or something," said Harry.” HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban . You’ve been potterized, by Professor Potter, 'Elder Potter' Harry Abel Potter, a very able potter. . Expecto Patronum !!! ================== * * * * * .

Not like, codified Hollywood with a big H, but hollywood with a little h.

Codified...

He was mature in the discussion but I don't recognize that guy here. They aren't the same rational mature person. This is honestly really disappointing. The exmo side in their response video were the exact same people in both videos, these two guys are not.

@@marylamphere2112that's the thing that REALLY starts to stand out to you after leaving the Church. Like, we all know people can be fake, but you just don't get how deep you're in it until you leave and start to realize, "oh... I can just say what I think and I don't have to try to manipulate people, defend the indefensible, convert people..." The two-faced, in speak vs out speak, we explain the church one way to non-members but the other amongst members. It's all so exhausting and you can literally read it from a mile away. As soon as Cardon started in to his "I have leukemia... " bit it was just so palpable. The fakeness, the emotional manipulation was just oozing through the screen. I can't believe anyone who was not raised to equate that weirdly specific type of General Conference Voice with "spirituality" would not immediately clock Cardon's strategy. Reading through the comments it seems like a lot of people feel the same way.

@@marylamphere2112 Classic Kwaku, just like when he did his original interview with RFM & Bill Reel where things mostly seemed very respectful and full of mutual understanding, but as soon as he went back to his Ward Radio friends (then known as Midnight Mormons) to review it he was crapping all over RFM & Bill Reel. All of that eventually led to the ridiculous debate between the Midnight Mormons and RFM, where Kwaku really turned toxic and attacked RFM's professional life to try and score cheap points.

@@marylamphere2112 Can't expect that much from Kwaku. He thinks he pwns the ex-Mos. He'll put up a good front until he's talking with his buds to slam on everyone.

​@@mrmaxpowerjrIn debate formats Kwaku has always melted down and resorted to snark, and petulence. This was the first time I recall him keeping it together and being diplomatic.

He probably expects his wife to be silent while he's speaking too.

TO: @laurenmckinnon5507 ... RE: marriage & LGBTQ+ ... Women have the right to speak about men's issues and men have the right to speak about women's issues ... so you've proven yourself to be absolutely wrong, abusive, and out of line again ... more apologies ... pay up ... :)

they cant even agree on what a woman is though

Same same.

That's a lie. He was talking about losing faith as he was interrupted. You don't even need the full video - I heard it in the Jubilee edit.

Yeah, they left out the part about the Relief Society not being able to do anything without a man around...

Or how the RS used to be totally independent of the first presidency until the church seized full control of the organization - including their massive funds!

Also, RS is not the largest Women's organization, and even it was that big it's entire program, activities, and budget need approval from the men.

Doesn't matter what you believe, I think these guys are being downright disrespectful. I only hope everyone can hold love and respect for each other. This is a sad video to watch.

They were disrespected by the show and the other side, this is their chance to air their dirty laundry. Chill out some

As a member did you agree with their points in the jubilee video?

Disagree

These fellers enjoy that they come off mean and divisive. It's their brand. 99% of the comments in this thread are expressing concern or flat out oppose what they are saying, and they love it. Best to tune them out.

It is telling I think. In the Exmormon review, they used the participants names, spoke respectfully, and even complimented the Mormon participants. Ward Radio's réponse is full of straw mans, insults, conjecture, and their comments on the replies to this video are bewildering. Exmormons don't need to have an organized effort to make the church look bad... they just need to sit back and let the folks on this channel do the things they do. I've pointed a few questioning members to FAIRLatterdaysaints knowing that the answers they receive there will not be as faith affirming as they claim... I'm to that point now with Ward Radio. I think I'll begin to send questioning members and non-members to this channel. The truly sad thing about it, Ward Radio can't see the fruits of their actions.

Because they're just good people who don't need to resort to personal attacks

I think u explained beautifully and I'm a never mormon so I obviously have no experience with any mormon stuff I just found myself here after jubilee video. I think they actually would have been better to not do a video about it! They have made themselves look worse. Honestly mormonism sounds exhausting! I'm so grateful I wasn't born into it.

@@hippychicken82 thank you 💜 Exhausting is a great word for this.

I wanted to validate what you wrote, and let you know I read every word. Thank you for taking the time.

@@jaybravo2199 thank you back, that means a lot.

Thanks for taking your time to write this well thought out comment. Much love ❤️

You did a WONDERFUL job! Loved the reaction video from MSP. Came over to watch theirs and you can just see they still don’t get it.

​@@meaganbarberry1240TYSM Meagan!

Absolutely loved your takes and your presence on MSP! You did such a good job showing love and respect in the middle ground video and in your reaction.

@@mirandascott9592 TYSM Miranda! It means so much.

Dylan did you feel like you ever attacked timbers decision to have children? The Ward radio guys seem to think you did. I didn’t pick that up.

I think it is bad faith to assume it, and definitely BAD FAITH to say it. Not a single ex Mormon on that panel said anything negative about Tember's family. There was no attempt to invalidate his happiness. I don't even think Tember feels that way. That's the reach of the century.

It must have been bad editing that made him say that.

​@@radybay9088he will take zero accountability for his words. He will double down here on the channel.

@@dillanconrad You guys seriously need to reach out to John and have another reaction video where ya'll watch this video together. This is absolutely insane to me. Make sure to record this video before they delete it

no fr!!! i think they definitely did him a favor with cutting so much of what he said... listening to him talk in the jubilee video and in this one leaves no doubt in my mind that he made a total fool of himself and the church lol

to: @nathancoleman7646 ||| (\__/) Here’s the thing (o'.'o) about all that ()(____) You’re all wrong . YOU SAID Yeah, Mormon Stories is way more professional and intellectually honest. REPLY There is a lot of evidence to the contrary. . First of all, John Dehlin is an adulterer. John Dehlin apologized for having a long term affair with a co-worker at Mormon Stories. . Secondly The 2013 median income in Cache Valley was $49,506. “For his work, Dehlin received nearly $90,000 in 2013, according to the foundation's public financial records.” source: The Salt Lake Tribune, by Peggy Fletcher Stack. 2015 And... According to its 2019 federal tax return, John Dehlin’s organization had: $464,325 in donations. $236,021 including a $200K base salary and benefits all paid only to John Dehlin, the sole employee (see page 30 and 34 of the tax return). So ... what's the problem One problem is that Dehlin has traditionally made between $60 & $70K ~ after taxes ~ before taxes $90k. The Law Salaries may be paid, but unreasonable salaries constitute inurement of benefit.” Basically, deductible donations made to a tax-exempt organization must benefit the public at large, and not insiders. . Thirdly According to Jacob Z. Hess, PhD. Dehlin's research shows clear evidence of confirmation bias. This means that Dehlin's doctorate was received with questionable research. Flirting with Curiosity 30 Questions Towards A More Productive LGBT - Religious Conservative Dialogue How scientific research can become weaponized (despite intentions otherwise) Jacob Z. Hess, Ph.D. Executive Summary: Closer examination of the process by which Dehlin et al. gathered and analyzed data, however, shows clear evidence of a confirmation bias that I argue tangibly influenced the generation of distinctive results (and subsequent generalizations about those results). Rather than intentional manipulation or deception, I make the case for how and why this influence most likely arises (as it does in other research areas) from the ideological uniformity of the research team relative to the questions at hand. . YOU SAID I was hoping for a better response from the faithful members. REPLY You can get to better from faithful members of the Church that you have already received ~ they have consistently given you the truth and there is nothing better than the truth. . Religious Bigotry Is Unacceptable Anyone who believes such obvious anti-Mormon hater propaganda must have already had a large lump of cancerous prejudice in their heart.

Intellectually honest? What like Goebbels?

@@WARDRADIO OMG! Look up Godwin's law in terms of Internet discussions, in short its an Internet adage asserting: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler becomes inevitable." It's usually invoked by the party which is losing a discussion because they lack sufficient evidence or composure to continue the conversation. I swear, the more this train wreck of a comment section goes on, the more you guys continue to fail.

​@@WARDRADIOChrist you are so bad at this 😂 do you even want to bring people to Mormonism?

Never.

That's little c stuff, not big C stuff... c'mon

You never would so nothing is lost…

@WARDRADIO I never would what? Have a positive impression of the church? Dude, I spent decades in the church. I know very well the good it can do and the harm it has done. The church broke my heart - ask Jacob Hansen how you can eventually be convinced to leave it. 😘 Don't try to lump people into some sort of "stiff necked, hard hearted anti-mormon" bull crap. That's juvenile. It's OK to admit you did a bad job representing your church. Learn from it, do better. Or don't? And continue to become irrelevant. 🤷‍♂️

As a non member, I came here to hear more of their side and their responses and even the one on this comment really leaves a negative impression.

@@WARDRADIO, I don’t know you and have never heard of you before watching the Jubilee video but if this is your brand of Christianity it is quite troubling. You don’t represent yourself or your religion well at all. I pray for your heart. I hope you can learn to love others and for (your) God’s sake please learn the difference between gossiping and debating. I watched the other response video and they carry and express themselves quite differently. They definitely “won” both the original debate and the response videos.

​@@WARDRADIOwhy are all of your comment responses so aggressive and unkind? This behavior doesn't seem like standing as witnesses of Christ AT ALL

TO: @rachaelkilgore50 RE: attacking Tember YOU SAID You guys do realize the exmos weren’t attacking Tembers sexuality right??? REPLY Yes ... They were not "attacking" his heterosexuality. They were questioning his support of the Church. . YOU SAID They were defending their opinions of the Church. REPLY Yes ... They were defending their opinions of the Church, by attacking the position of a church that they don't belong to. . YOU SAID I see you deflecting from the point of the conversation REPLY There were many points in the conversation. One of Tember's points was: God has standards. The scriptures teach God's standards. As God's Kingdom on Earth, the Church teaches and upholds those standards. When you keep God's standards or in other words, when you keep God's commandments then you are blessed accordingly. Tember said that his joy is full in keeping the commandments. . Tember said, quote " ... I had a 'semblance' of joy with my boyfriends ... the joy I feel in Christ is so much deeper than the emotional physical connection I had with my boyfriends. ... It doesn't compare." . So ... what was the point of the conversation. . On one side... Tember said that the doctrinal issue is, quote " "Sexual expression should only be between a man and a women." It is a requirement for exaltation. . On the other side ... Jillian said that, quote" "Gay is incredible ... beautiful I've (she's) never been happier." Hence, as a result of her personal experience. She, they, the other side reject the Church doctrine that ~ Sexual expression should only be between a man and a woman. . ... and you. You are saying that ... We, faithful Latter-day Saints are deflecting from the issue. In my opinion, I believe that it is the other side, LGBTIQA+ ex-members are deflecting or in other words twisting the issue and here's why. . There is a big difference between ~ what is a trial and ~ what is a trial in the Church. . IN THE CHURCH . In the Church the scripture reads: therefore this life became a probationary state ... And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them . In other words... The trial is whether you will keep the commandments. When it is difficult to keep the commandments ~ that my friend is a difficult trial. . 4EX: alcohol and drugs ... Abstaining from alcohol and drugs is a Church standard ~ to enter the waters of baptism ~ to enter the temple. LGBTIQA+ believe they are born LGBTIQA+ In the same way, alcoholics and drug addicts are born. The true proposition is an 'if ... then' proposition. If you believe in God If you believe that the Church is God's Church. If you believe that the Church teaches God's commandment. Then ... Keeping the commandments is a huge trial, for those whose children face death at an early age. for those of us who face disability or death for those of us who are alcoholics for those of us who are drug addicts. for those of us who are LGBTIQA+ and for every other flesh failure that separates man from God. . . NOT IN THE CHURCH . They don't believe that same sex attraction is a temptation to break God's commandment because. They don't believe what Tember said when Tember said that the doctrinal issue is, quote " "Sexual expression should only be between a man and a women." It is a requirement for exaltation. They don't believe that God's Standard the standard of God's Church applies to them. AND I know you are going to find this hard to believe... But ... They are right. They are not members of God's Church. The commandments of the Church do not apply to them. And here's why. Sin ... What is sin? Sin is when you know right from wrong and do wrong even when you know it is wrong. Now... If you are not a member of the Church, there is a situation where breaking the standards the commandments of the Church is sin. If as a non-member, you believe, know, and understand for example that alcoholism, drug addiction, adultery, sex outside of marriage, cheating, lying, stealing, or being LGBTIQA+ is a sin ~ then ~ then it is a sin. But until then, it is not a sin and the Church does not teach that God will hold you accountable for something that you do not know or understand. What the Church teaches is that ~ if you knowingly sin ~ then you are in open rebellion against God, And unless you repent, the gate to Heaven is closed for you. But until you know and understand and are willing to live by the standards of the Church ~ you cannot be a member of the Church or if you are a backsliding member, you cannot go to the Temple. . The other major part of "the point of the conversation" is John Dehlin's research and it's conclusions ~ which work, in my opinion, from the evidence that I've seen is biased to say the least and is a discussion for another time and place. As a preview, I will however give you one piece of evidence: Homosexual Marriage Increases Suicide Rates: Modern scientific studies show that people in homosexual ‘marriages’ are almost 3 times more likely to commit suicide. (NEMESIS) I served part of my mission in the Netherlands and that's were the study is from. . So ... what were you saying we were deflecting or in other words what were you saying that we don't understand? I am always willing to listen to those who are willing to listen to me. . peace.

What do you mean?

Where or when did it ever have integrity?

Even the label "LGBT" is hypersexualized. Who cares? Who cares if you're LGBT? That's not who you are. You are a child of God, you have eternal worth and infinite potential. Who you are sexually attracted to is infinitely less important than your strength of character, your depth of soul, your capacity for empathy. From the very first word, we get this argument all wrong. The world has reduced these people down to their orientation and it's destructive and sad. They are people with lives and hearts as lucid and vivid as any of ours. But we hypersexualize it all away.

@@WARDRADIO For the first time in the train wreck of the comment section of this video, I think I've come across a reasoned comment form Ward Radio, emphasizing the inherit worth of an individual beyond a label. Let's push it past lip service. To the credit of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, they have moved past the toxic and hurtful rhetoric of calling any gay or queer person an abomination or trying to cure their "gayness" with shock therapy. However, what is asked of a gay person is to give up on the very natural instinct to be romantically attracted to another human being and further telling them that the feelings they have aren't natural or are a trial from God, as opposed to their straight peers who are told their feelings are natural and a way for God to encourage people to "replenish the Earth". The small comfort that Cordon has of sitting in sacrament with his spouse lovingly scratching his back and holding his hand is lost on a gay member. As far as the new key phrase "hyper-sexualized", if we look at the gospel of the church, isn't that was its all about... creating bodies for spirits to inherit on earth... having sex, right?

@@WARDRADIO You reduced them down. Almost everything you said was offensive to women or the LGBT community or both. They were not expressing their sexuality. They were expressing that it is troublesome that the church puts restrictions on gay people. You have no self awareness. Listen to what literally everyone is saying to you and stop making excuses.

To: @tinman3586 one of the huge problems with the world are optics. nevertheless, I agree with the main thrust of your analysis. people are prejudiced against Latter-day Saints. . Let's unpack what you've said, . YOU SAID I'm a conservative inactive Mormon REPLY We don't say "Mormon" anymore, the prophet has asked the world to call us by our proper name: Latter-day Saints. In my opinion you should repent and return to Christ. I hope I said that in a nice way ~ it was intended as a nice way. . YOU SAID so I don't feel strongly aligned with either side but here's my post-mortem: REPLY okay, let's check it out. . YOU SAID Cardon would have done better had he just explained things from his own personal experience why he's a member and why likes the church and where he thinks he would be without it. REPLY He did and so did Tember. . YOU SAID Do not try to project your personal truths on to other people because that will never work. REPLY The sad thing is that no-one noticed the other side doing exactly that. When the other side is allowed to state their personal opinions as truth and I am shushed that's not a level playing field. . YOU SAID And whether you like it or not, the optics of a tall straight white man telling women how they're supposedly equal when those women feel the opposite are not good. REPLY I think the problem is that when LGBTIQA+ women are treated as if they represent women in the Church ~ they don't. Worse the story the LGBTIQA+ women in the Jubilee video reported their personal truth as a generalized truth for the Church. Or like Jillian Orr they showed why they shouldn't be part of the conversation. She said that the gay lifestyle is not a trial ~ it is something beautiful. Then she says the complete opposite by saying that the gay lifestyle is a trial ~ in the Church. In other words ~ Cardon is correct. It is a trial ~ in the Church it is a trial ~ that's exactly what she said. Did she think that Cardon was talking about those out of the Church = no. So why the rant. . YOU SAID I won't bother mentioning the leukemia-gay monolog since that's been throughly covered already. REPLY No... it hasn't been thoroughly covered until my previous response. It seems that I am the only one to have noticed that she actually agreed with Cardon ~ it is a trial in the Church. ... Cardon was right !!! She said so. . YOU SAID The Ex-Mormons' views generally align with the mainstream culture in America and align with way more people than do the views of active Mormons, who are their own separate culture more or less. One reason why, I think, Bella came off as the most level-headed pro-Mormon voice was because she was a somewhat recent convert. I think she said she was baptized 5 years ago if I recall. This means she probably has a better understanding of the world outside Mormonism than the others except maybe Kwaku, but also as a member for the last few years she understands Mormonism and can act as a sort of bridge between the two worlds. REPLY She didn't seem to know very much about the Church to me. She said the only women she sees on the stand are the organist when in fact most every week we see a five minute talk from a youth speaker and from the pulpit ~ a husband and wife. ~ which is what the Church is all about ~ families ~ not Relief Society presidents. . YOU SAID Additionally, John Dehlin is a professional. REPLY So is Tember. So is Cardon. So is the Kwaku Kid. . YOU SAID Both his Mormon history and his post-Mormon credentials are impressive and frankly, it's not something you guys can compete with. REPLY to the contrary ... John D doesn't know more about Church History than I do. And his research is in my opinion tainted and flawed. ... more about this in a minute. . YOU SAID He's got one of the oldest podcasts of all time REPLY Yes ... he started it as a deceiver ... he pretended he was true and faithful. He had been pretending he was true and faithful since he came back from college. Listen to Episode 1 and you will learn when and how the deception started. . YOU SAID and he's got 10x the subscribers Ward Radio does. = true . YOU SAID He's a deep thinker and very articulate. REPLY His statements are based on false data from a faulty research study and that my friend is not deep thinking although he is "somewhat" articulate, but then again, from the little I've seen of your writing ~ so are you. ... but, that wasn't a compliment ~ that was an observation. . Now I told you all that to tell you this... the fact is John D is wrong. ... 4EX: HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE INCREASES SUICIDE RATES. Scientific studies show that people in homosexual ‘marriages’ are almost 3 times more likely to commit suicide. Findings From the Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study (NEMESIS) further reference materials available upon request. The real question is ... Is John Dehlin's research faulty??? Along with the above study and others, if you see the following video, you will, hopefully, be able to see why I side with Ward Radio and the Church. Ward Radio has finally done a science-based response. If you want to see the research, then here it is: Inconvenient Truths and Statistics on LGBT Success in the LDS Church (feat. Jeff Bennion). . peace

After experiencing their edits, kinda makes you question everything...

​@@WARDRADIOincluding your affiliation with mormonism? 😅

Thank you. Kwauku at one point in the Jubilee video interjected himself to talk about his experience as an African American in the church. They should afford the same courtesy in their response video.

He's one of the fools dude

​@@RampidWarthogStudiosExactly. His point on racism doesn't really disprove the racism within the BoM. It just changes the group the racism is directed towards. A shameful take to say the least.

@@DontDieSenpai he's a professional at word salad. He acts smart but damn he's an idiot lol

You might enjoy Saints Unscripted ~ They are more conservative and are hosted primarily by young adult students at BYU. Their mission statement says that they strive to present information about the gospel of Jesus Christ in genuine, compelling, and loving ways. Ward Radio tries to reach a wider spectrum of audience 4EX they reach out to people who may not be willing to listen to Saints Unscripted. The Gospel is true for all peoples from all different types of backgrounds and everyone is doing their best to help others come to Christ. We wish the best to you. I am not a part of Ward Radio, but I thank you for the support you gave my friends ... peace.

Try the mormon stories react video. You'll be pleased with the sincerity and clarity, even from exmos

@@harryabelpotter9630 ehh I wouldn't consider Saints Unscripted "conservative", but I would definitely say polished.

To: @@BrendonKing ... I think what I said was "more conservative" meaning more conservative than Ward Radio, Nevertheless, who is conservative 4U?