Week 3: Chromis School Tank - Nature’s Coordinated Dance

Week 3: Chromis School Tank - Nature’s Coordinated Dance | 52SE

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It's 52SE Friday again and, today, we invite you to meet the chromis school tank. Large colonies of acropora, a school of reef chromis, and a grouper make for an incredibly unique saltwater aquarium you won't see anywhere else. What goes in to a SPS reef tank like this? How is it managed? Watch here to find out more!
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00:00 - Intro
01:19 - Habitat
06:22 - Light Energy System
07:40 - Gas Exchange System
11:00 - Chemistry System
13:20 - Nutrition System
14:55 - Pollution System
17:37 - Parasite/Disease System
19:26 - Thermal Energy
19:47 - Environment Management
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@Necro_AAAARon 10 ай бұрын

Nice to see you back in your wheelhouse. Even the cadence of your speech takes me back to the OG 52wks. Thank you for all you do for the community.

@insanity4224 10 ай бұрын

The BRS reef gallery will be incredible in a couple of years 😊

@turbocoupe27 10 ай бұрын

OMG Thank you for making a tank with mature live rock! TBS is the best. The sterile white rock fad has been such a detriment to the reefing community and has caused people to quit in frustration that could have been saved with good live rock.

@leviclark4305 10 ай бұрын

These are really being knocked out of the park this time. A big accumulation of testing and knowledge coming together right here for sure

@dilbert9812 10 ай бұрын

Nice to see TBS getting some love

@jordanm2984 10 ай бұрын

I'm sure you guys have most or all of the 52 weeks planned already, but someday I'd love to see a Mantis Shrimp tank. They're super underrated creatures!

@shadyacres87 10 ай бұрын

Loving the focus on some different tank types for these new videos, looking forward to seeing the rest of the tanks.

@aquariumengineer 10 ай бұрын

First time in a very long time I have seen an original and simple concept about to be executed professionally. Schooling fish + predator, elegant, simple concept but core to marine environments. Second, using less species of corals and planting the frags to grow together, rad! And a great counter to the collectoritis craze. Like what I’m seeing and exited about 52weeks of reefkeeping again! Any chance you’ll get some Solomon Corals in the tank?

@davemetro2147 10 ай бұрын

Something I'm happy to see is tanks designed for habitat not cost. I know these tanks are all pricey but I'm so happy to see it done right with a realistic cost upfront. If you've done this atleast once you know your gonna spend that plus all your mistakes in the end anyhow. Thanks brs!

@insanity4224 10 ай бұрын

And the thought process behind each choice is given in detail. Brilliant

@therightmindset5000 10 ай бұрын

This guys thinking crazzy 😂

@DINOSAURIA92 10 ай бұрын

I kept 40 Chromis in 7ft with a miniatus grouper. The number did dwindle quite quickly! Id say after 3 months I had about 25-30 chromis left. The miniatus would find a way to pick off chromis over time :)

@siggyincr7447 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm guessing the only way you could avoid that is by only introducing the grouper after the corals are big enough that the chromis can all get in between the branches and using corals that have the right branch structure to keep the grouper out but let the chromis in quick. And even so, my guess is that you'll need an occasional addition of a few new chromis once in a while.

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@ronngonzalez3954 10 ай бұрын

Well thought out specie specific aquariums are the future of this hobby. This tank is well planned and intentional.

@ac3ray903 10 ай бұрын

Hyped for this series

@Windgoddess540 10 ай бұрын

I’m looking forward to the live rock aquascape!

@PlanktonMarin 10 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see the results!

@PalmettoCoralCo. 10 ай бұрын

Super interesting and so excited to see something unique!!

@mrmud 10 ай бұрын

Super interesting tanks so far, really looking forward to the rest of the episodes

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

The recommended minimum tank size for groupers ranges between 200-250 gallons.

@jamesthenewb 6 ай бұрын

It's cool to see a 2nd edition of 52 weeks. I followed your first one at the same time you were releasing them, as a journey with a new tank. I was fortunate enough to see some of the issues coming and was able to dodge them or cure them quickly. I look forward to adding some new info to my toolkit. :)

@ou812reefing 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely great video the details are right on point all ready makes me want to start a new tank

@jxj5924 10 ай бұрын

I’m looking forward to this one. I came from freshwater tanks and tight schools are the big thing I miss.

@cku333 9 ай бұрын

I’m glad my money is going to such cool stuff!

@cjdangles 10 ай бұрын

That’s a really sweet idea for a theme tank! I can’t wait to watch this one progress! But man, I hope you have better luck than most of the rest of us do with that AFS. Neptune should be ashamed of that thing 😬

@richarddesimone960 9 ай бұрын

I went out and got a generator for my tanks. Power has gone out about a dozen time in 5 years. Still never used the thing. The way i see it is if a fish can travel in a bag for 3-4 days without flow,Food and gas exchange. Then i dont think having a generator for a 4 hour outage at best. Is the right solution. Better to just let the tank be for the time and dont mess with it a bunch and dont spend alot of time around the tank. Open window near tank and will be fine 👍🏼

@devachapman6315 10 ай бұрын

Yup great Idea, I thought about this years ago surprised more ppl dont do it. curious to see how this turns out.

@alarsen18 10 ай бұрын

Super excited to follow along with this series. These tanks are nuts though. At some point through the series, please compile the overall equipment/setup costs for each tank setup. Would be really interesting and an eye opener of what it takes to set something like these up.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

ten grand easy for this one...probably more after all the corals and fish

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

I found a few interesting articles in the scientific literature about C. viridis (blue-green chromis). One showed that metabolism was decreased and fitness increased from shoaling vs solitary individuals (individuals in shoals are healthier). Another showed that that C. viridis has a unique sleeping behavior with rapid fin movements that increase water oxygenation within acropora where flow is low (C. viridis sleeping within SPS colonies is actually beneficial for the coral). And perhaps most interesting for this specific tank: C. viridis in captivity showed no preference in association between real branching coral skeleton and 3D printed exact reproductions of the same skeleton. You could 3D print large coral colonies and the fish would use those while real colonies are growing in.

@MichaelSinclairdotnet 10 ай бұрын

I had an idea to do something like this one day. I look forward to see how it turns out.

@ReefingRyan 10 ай бұрын

Where is the follow up on the best biome cycling tests/methods from around 10-11 months ago??

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Where is the Biome 2 series? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@adambahe9309 10 ай бұрын

My only complaint about TBS is that it was absolutely FULL of mantis and pistol shrimp. If you don't want them, you will never get them all out.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

I love this idea, *but*, I think in order to successfully execute it you would need a much larger tank -- like at minimum five hundred gallons. You would also need to spend at least a couple of years just growing the corals big enough to give your chromis something approaching the habitat they would have in the wild. Hope you prove me wrong...

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

He said they might put in large colonies to begin with.

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@matthewhayden6505 10 ай бұрын

I have always wanted to do this but whenever doing research I have never found anybody who has done it. Unfortunately I have never had a tank big enough to even try it

@jaebrooks6627 10 ай бұрын

Do you think the tank is a bit small to have a predator inside with the chromis. Poor chromis will probably be so stressed the won't come out. I'm very interested to see how this turns out.

@frederikaflokiren9707 10 ай бұрын

I personally wouldn't set up a tank like this because of ethical reasons.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

I think the idea could work, but it would have to be a much larger tank, and you would need to spend a couple of years just growing the corals first, and who has that kind of patience? Also, you would need to keep said tank plumbed into a fully stocked system while the coral grows, otherwise the tank would get all out of whack from adding a grouper and a giant school of chromis all at once...@@frederikaflokiren9707

@aquariumengineer 10 ай бұрын

They thrive under these conditions in the wild.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

In the wild they are not trapped in a box with the predator. In the wild the predators come out mostly at night, and their presence is temporary. This one is here 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Someone commented below about keeping 40 chromis with a miniatus grouper. After 3 months they had 25-30 chromis left. @@aquariumengineer

@thetharrington 10 ай бұрын

@@frederikaflokiren9707 Agreed. I love everything about this idea except the grouper. The chromis should still spook and school without it.

@eastfallsglass 9 ай бұрын

Another option for "wet" aquascaping (that worked well for me) is two-part epoxy like Z Spar Splash Zone. Curious to see your scape video to see how your method compares. The biggest downside for me was a long cure time, and having to essentially rig the rocks into position overnight (under water) so the epoxy could set.

@joe7949 10 ай бұрын

Love it! Any update on when week 4 will be released??

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Wait, where was week 4? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@portwolf2293 10 ай бұрын

Since you're doing heavy feeding, high par and no filter fleece. Might be a good idea to try using filter feeders or clams as alternative filtration.

@svenpflug1679 10 ай бұрын

What mounting brackets you guys using for this tank

@vongregor1 10 ай бұрын

I need that bracket that attaches to both the kessil and the AI blade. I have a blade and a kessil and haven't figured out how to mount them together.

@Reefspidey 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if fast growing SPS (monti/birds nest) would work for this as well

@megability 9 ай бұрын

Why did you use the 57watt UV when it seems way over-rated for a 139 gallon tank (it says for up to 355gallons) and whem both the smaller options 40watt or 25watt state they are rated for that size ???

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

We talk about that here., What's the right flow rate for UV? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@CyberFreaked 10 ай бұрын

It's a shame people don't know the species Apogon leptacanthus they are also a good school fish

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, but they shoal more than they school. Lots of hovering in place, not a lot of movement of the school as one.

@vascojardim6703 10 ай бұрын

Cant wait to see the Chromis population dwindle 😂

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@bayarea_reef 10 ай бұрын

I always wanted a school of Chromis, they almost always end up killing each other.

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@raisethereef 10 ай бұрын

Not so sure about this one. The grouper is going to pick the chromis off or keep them in a state of constant fear. Tank isn't big enough to have the grouper "just pass by" and "not even try" to eat them. So assuming the grouper doesn't eat them one by one, they are still chromis and I haven't seen anyone be successful long term with a school. When their numbers start to dwindle, you will have to replace them and risk uronema again and again. I don't care who collects and treats them. Uronema is one of the worst and hardest parasites we deal with in the hobby. Once it is there, this can never be a chromis tank again. I would dump 20 chromis into my tank tomorrow if I thought I could provide them a good life but they are becoming one of those fish best left in the ocean IMO

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

THIS. I think the constant stress is the biggest factor, and runs counter to keeping your fish healthy and happy.

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

There’s lots of people in the comments saying this can’t be done for two reasons. One is that the grouper will pick them off slowly. The second is that the chromis will pick each other off slowly. Go back and watch the first clown harem tank episode. Ryan talks about how most people said more than 2 clowns was trouble. But it had been done successfully. And if it happens in the wild we *should* be able to do it in a properly designed aquarium system. Turns out it’s not difficult to keep a clown harem if you follow the right recipe. Well, people *have* been able to keep chromis schools successfully long term. There is definitely a formula. The added wrinkle of having a predator will be interesting. Wild Chromis school because it gives them a better chance of avoiding predation, and they are almost exclusively found around large branching corals that give protection. Is there a recipe for success here? I think so. I think this is it: QT chromis for Uronema Limit aggression among the chromis by heavy feeding. Give ample large branching SPS from the start. Feed the grouper as much as possible. People will be surprised at what is possible in captivity when the only priorities are healthy and thriving fish.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

What's your plan to stop the grouper from picking off chromis as they sleep? All the feeding in the world can't suppress his instincts. In the wild, the chromis could flee. Here, they are trapped with a predator.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

If the priority is healthy and thriving fish, doesn't keeping the Chromis in a constant state of stress run counter to that?

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

@@jdamommio They won’t be in constant stress. Just wait before making your judgement.

@jdamommio 10 ай бұрын

You have already concluded that they *won't* be in constant stress (what was your reasoning behind that conclusion again?), but you want me to wait before I draw my own conclusions...Let's just agree to disagree@@willbritton133

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

@@jdamommio In the wild they don't flee. They hide in their coral that they are always close to. They plan to have such corals here. They sleep inside the coral.

@opethmike 10 ай бұрын

Best of luck on this one; nine times out of ten, chromis murder each other in captive schools.

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

They will dispel the myth that a large school of chromis can’t last. It used to be thought that a harem of clowns couldn’t work either. Sit back and enjoy.

@BRStv 9 ай бұрын

Will all the chromis die? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLqSfLilzZ3Khp8.html