Peter getting denied from his top college despite saving half the universe with the avengers is the most realistic part of the movie.

Asking “is he drunk?” Is my new favourite reading for this film. Dr. Strange was 100% drunk when he cast the spell and I will not be seeing evidence to the contrary.

The end with spiderman swinging out into the snow and then showing the big Christmas tree with all the lights REALLY made me go...."is he gonna show up in the hawkeye finale?" That would be incredible. Maybe I would prefer daredevil showing up instead cause spiderman might over shadow but either would be amazing.

The fellow catching the brick and emphasizing his skill at his chosen profession was an absolutely fantastic moment that solidified a brilliant use of minimal screen time.

I’ve been waiting on this since Thursday night!

The best part is Tom Spider still bragging about being an Avenger to 2 people who have no idea what an Avenger is. It fits the character so perfectly. Also the reactions as well, Tobey Spider being the objective one and Andrew Spider being the curious in awe one ("are you in a band?")

A little detail I liked was when Tom Holland approached the MIT woman on the bridge and his suit looked like shit, due to it being creased up by having the Iron Spider costume worn over it.

the thing i loved about this movie the most was that it played like a spider-man comic. i could legit imagine reading this comic honestly. like they dont have to try to appeal to normi audiences now because everyone is used to it so we get like comics but in big budget. literally felt like reading some early to mid two thousands amazing spider man. very glad to have gotten to this point

I cannot describe my happines with the fact that Tom Hardy's Venom has nothing to do with MCU's Spider-man. What a bullet dodged that was.

spoiler i very much appreciate the back cracking scene. it was really funny and shows that these are just some goofy guys with the same problems

I love that Mason’s favorite superhero moment was the 2 min with Charlie Cox’s Matt Murdock. I feel the same, and even though it’s a long shot that we’ll get to see these two characters in costume together anytime soon, I gotta hope for it

As an Australian I never clapped or cheered in a movie theatre, nor have I ever heard anyone else clap or cheer. At this Spiderman movie, when Aunt May died a little kid began audibly crying, then a woman a few rows behind said, "shut up, I'm trying to watch the movie". Ha!

I’m so glad I refrained myself from watching anything Spider-Man related since they dropped the 1st trailer back in September. The payoff after seeing it on Thursday was absolutely mental, this was the ENDGAME of Spider-Man movies 20 years in the making🔥 those majestic bastards at marvel finally broke the 30 villain spidey sequel film curse

It is not healthy how hard I laughed at James being interrupted by Mason and saying “ah jeez Mason I’m in the middle of a big QUOTE” 1:13:24

I would have loved for them to pretend Toby Maguire was pulled from when he was still in high school but do no de-aging at all.

For the amount of time they spent discussing Tom Holland, I'm amazed he didn't make an appearance on the pod this week. EDIT: 1:24:45 He made it!

It might be a cop out, but Endgame, Loki and "What if" established that every timeline exists and deviations just create new universes so I think the villains were put back in different realities while Tobey and Andrew just went back to their original ones. Now Ock and Norman still dying is a possibility and I'm fine with that too. The point was that Tom wanted to use all of his resources to try and help them. With all of that said, I would never say the movie was perfect and if the plot felt pointless I can understand that, but I think they did a good job making it personal for Tom's Peter. Edited because I don't want to double post: I'm ultimately glad they didn't say or show anything about what happened in Andrew and Tobey's universe. I would have loved to know, but I think keeping it vague let's everyone speculate their own conclusions. People would probably be upset with anything they said. My only disappointment was that they should of had a scene of Andrew meeting his own MJ which would have been hopeful for him and show that Tom will eventually meet back up with his friends because Spider-Man always needs an MJ.

I'm here for Snake Eyes. Can't wait to dig into this episode.

I saw Endgame at a press screening with some fans. So there was a lot of cheers. BUT it did not at all compare to the reactions here. People were screaming and woooing at the tiniest of things. Small dialogue, small actions. Some people talked to the screens. It was unlike any other experience

47:44 Guys I get what you're saying, but also that's literally something that always happens to Spiderman. A selfish act leads to the death of a loved one, which is formative in Peter Parker becoming the hero who wants to help and save everybody. The Tobester lets the robber free, who then shoots Uncle Ben. Same as Garfield's, who also having asked Gwen Stacey to stay with him leads to her death. It's stupid, but it's also the most Spiderman thing ever for Holland's version try to revert something for selfish reasons, leading to the death of someone he loves.

I haven’t seen anyone mention how much better this movie looks visually compared to the previous two. Everything seems to have more depth. It reminds me of how Spider-Man 2 looked compared to Spider-Man 1

From what the villains said about the moment before they were taken from their universe, it seems like they were all taken at points where the situation was still salvageable. Like Otto said he had his hand around Peter's neck, which means it's before he turned good in Spider-Man 2 and chose to sacrifice himself, so there may have been time to turn off the sun machine without it overloading and him still surviving. Also they do acknowledge that not all of the villains will die. All Sandman wants to do the entire movie is go back home to see his daughter.

I think I rationalize May's logic by saying that the "great power" thing is very literal. I mean people without powers would not try and save those villains obviously, but he is Spider-man and has all those powers, so he has a chance to save those villains so he at least has to try. Also I don't think its a coincidence that we get Kingpin and Daredevil in the MCU within a week and then see the Rockefeller center during Christmas time at the end of Spider-man, where Hawkeye is also set.

Spoiler I guess I'm glad everyone agrees that Andrew should continue denying that he's in the film but I think it should go further. He should deny being in any film before or after Tick Tick Boom.

They should call the Kick Ass Reboot "A Kick Ass Reboot" that's actually a great title that you accidently came up with there.

42:57 He didn’t get his name cleared though? Just because he won the court hearings doesn’t mean his life is okay. Clearly the general public still thinks he killed Mysterio and attacked London, that’s why he can’t get into MIT. Plus the reason why people are more interested in Peter Parker in-universe, is because he wore a mask and because he had a secret identity for years, people get curious

Mason and James stumbling through the non-spoiler section is my favourite review of anything ever.

Whoa. I wasn’t expecting my review to be read out on the illustrious Weekly Planet podcast. What a pleasant Monday surprise!

I don't know which is worse; Mason comparing No Way Home to Batman v Superman, or Mason saying that he likes Batman v Superman.

I think the reason they didn’t tease any tobey or Andrew off-screen adventures is that a positive reception would give the actors far too much negotiating leverage

They'll make both Spider-Man 4 and Amazing Spider-Man 3 before the Wackadoos cover Snake Eyes on this podcast.

The way I see it is Peter was right to try the spell because his identity being public was hurting those close to him, and in reality the stuff they experienced was only the beginning. Those consequences came from him being too cavalier with his identity in the first place (Mysterio, ect). But Aunt May didn’t die because he tried to reverse everything, she died because he messed up the spell wanting the people close to him to still know. So the lesson he ultimately learned (which I have been dying for him to learn from the beginning) is that those close to him who know his identity will always be in danger. With great power comes great responsibility is about more than just using your power to help people, it’s also about keeping those close to you safe, even and especially if that means keeping your identity a secret from them. And as far as why his identity is a big deal even when a lot of heroes have public identities in the mcu is that A) Spiderman’s secret identity is a key part of who he is for the reasons I just mentioned and many others, and B) He honestly simply just has more ruthless villains than anyone else who will not hesitate to make it personal and hurt those he loves. In the comics other superheroes had public identities while Spiderman didn’t, but that doesn’t mean that he should or that it’s even the smart thing to do. That’s my opinion

Never clicked so fast in my life.

People say the movie needs the nostalgia factor to be an enjoyable experience, and yet my girlfriend who had only watched the Sam Raimi version recently and didn't even see Andrew's Spider-Man absolutely loved it and was almost as excited as me. I think the nostalgia was used in a very respectful way and made sense in the context of the plot, not only that but I think it was instrumental to further Peter's character.

Spoilers for No Way Home but, I really love that the other Spider-Men felt like actual fleshed out side characters who have actual roles to play in supporting Holland's Spider-Man and the overall story and not just throwaway cameos during a quick scene or something.

"I done a wrong magic" was my favourite line in the film.

The amount of anticipation I have for the upcoming Snake Eyes review is immeasurable

when Electro got sent back to Doctor Stranges basement, i really wanted MJ and Ned to freak out because in that universe Jamie Foxx exists. "oh my god peter youve captured actor Jamie Foxx, star of the Annie remake and Django" and then he's all evil and sparkly

There was a nice moment with alfred monlina and tobey maguire where it felt like tobey maguire was talking about himself it was really nice

I said it before I'll say it again, if you told me I had to pick one of these spider-mans to get a sequel, I would pick Andrew. I would have never said that before watching this movie, but damn he won my heart.

So glad I was able to watch NWH this weekend and dodging all the spoilers. Now I can listen to this without fear

Ngl I love Doctor strange’s constantly changing hair 😂

You know Peter, I'm something of a scientist myself.

Spider-Man: No Way Home. A.K.A. What If One More Day was actually good!?

I liked that doc oc's arms blocked spidermans punches like you guy mentioned they should in the soiderman 2 caravan of garbage

Man, I loved the movie so much, my wife and I almost went immediately back in ha. Definitely going to see it in theaters again. I do kind of wish it hadn't been so heavily dissected before it came out (which is also my own fault for listing and watching things that will even un intentionally do that) I grew up watching the Toby Mcguire ones as I was 12 when it came out so big nostalgia moments.

To be fair, mason keeps saying the movie gets a pass because you like the cast and characters already but isn't that the job of a 3rd movie? to play off what you already know about the characters and are on board.

I want the running gag of snake eyes to become "Our apologies to Matt Damon, we ran out of time" of this show. 😁🤣

I like that one guys email. “Thanks for not being very funny”

I completely disagree with the idea that the movie isn’t particularly strong without the nostalgia factor, as someone that doesn’t particularly care for the Raimi films and saw the movie with someone that hasn’t seen them or the Amazing Spider-Man movies we both still loved it Also for Sandman and Lizard they did get the actors in to do the lines and do proper scenes but the de-aging on them looked so uncanny that it was better to just stick with cgi

To his credit when things went wrong, Dr Strange did want to contain the villains and push the UNDO button as soon as possible, and spiderman literally beat him up to stop that happening.

Fun (?) fact. Tobey Maguire actually has back issues. They caused problems when he was filming Seabiscuit. IIRC it was attributed to his time playing Spider-Man.

He took them from their own timeline, at a point where if he sends them back they can still change. That’s all you need to know.

Spoiler for post-credits. The last thing Venom talked about doing was going to New York and talking to Spider-Man. So I'm guessing a little bit of symbiote will go to New York and seek out Spider-Man. So, Peter will be the first person to wear the black suit in this universe.

*The best cheese steak I ever had was in sea isle in nj. Welshies which is sadly no longer there. They were open till 4 am. You could get all your party supplies there too. Cigarettes, condoms, ping pong balls, beer bongs. What a place. Best sandwich was the barnyard. Steak, chicken, and bacon on an amazing roll*

My sister didn't know who the lawyer was and why people cheered when he appeared. So i was a bit delighted telling her it was Daredevil.

I think it would hilarious if Sony pulled Tom Holland Spider-Man from the MCU and Marvel still used the Symbiote fragment left behind in their universe for something silly like Venom the Duck.

They could have remedied the strange plot hole by having the spell in an book or something that Strange shows Peter but doesn’t let him use due to the inherent risk. Peter then steals the spell and attempts to do it himself with Ned. That way Strange comes off as less reckless and acts as a set up/pay off.

At this point I actually want you to review Snake Eyes 😂 You guys had me the first two weeks you tricked us lol.

“You look like a frog in a pair of pants” is the insult I never knew I needed in my arsenal. Bless you, James.

Something no one has talked about is how the cup that Tobey drink from at the hospital in spiderman 3 is the same one Peter gets from the donut shop at the end of the movie

Bokes Oh-Fiss made me bust out laughing in the break room, love you guys

Go to agree with James on his take on Sony shouldn't be allowed to do any Spider-man solo movies when he was discussing the mid-credit scene. They just don't seem to know what they are doing, which makes Into the SpiderVerse more amazing every time I think about it.

The old suit was definitely wrecked, he just has no way to fix/fabricator repair it after everyone forgets him I guess

Some theories: Peter never goes to Boston he stays in NYC to Spider-Man… maybe enrolls into Empire State university MJ and Ned don’t come back until the end of the second of the next trilogy or the third movie of the next trilogy Spider-Man gets symbiote, then it goes to Mac Gargan scorpion venom who joins thunderbolts with US Agent, Abomination etc Spider-Man dates black cat in the next movie until Zendaya comes back

Loved hearing about GI Joe: Snake Eyes.

That JMS nugget makes a lot of sense since he spent years at the beginning of his run getting Peter and MJ back together and into a much better and developed relationship when they were estranged from the 90's. His entire run was transitioning Peter into an adult and it never made sense for JMS to want to tear things back like OMD did.

Finally saw it, first thing to do after watching is listen to Weekly Planet Pod!

I think electro learned about peter parker by "absorbing data" in the grid, it closes that plothole nicely.

When Peter is knocked out of his body, you can see the Spidey Sense lightning bolts around his head when his body is resisting Dr. Strange.

I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who laughed at the Avi Arad special thanks in the credits

I feel like a lot of the “dumb stuff that you got to get past” is mainly done by the main mcu characters. So even if you don’t hold nostalgia for the other ones, they aren’t the ones bogging it down really

53:13 best bit ever!

The audience reactions in my cinema were shocked/surprised when Matt Murdock shows up, cheering and whooping both times the other Spiderman's first showed up. When Andrew Garfield saves MJ lot of aaawwwws, and cheering when the 3 Spiderman swung together

rewatching this a year later just thinking about andrew garfield’s peter taking a second to compose himself after catching mj, brought a tear or two to my eyes again lmao

"This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network" "The Planet Broadcasting Network? That's great!" ... "What is that?"

I love how guys mention Andy g being the best actor in the movie that man literally killed it you felt allll of the emotion on his face

I feel there was a slight missed opportunity, (SPOILERS PAST THIS POINT) they could have had a low tier villain like Shocker from Homecoming show up and attack Peter/MJ/Ned near the start, which would cement how dangerous it is that people now who he is, MIT would have more grounds for not wanting him at the school if he is indeed a danger to the school just by being there, plus would give Dr Strange a better reason to do the spell to protect Peter, and also add more weight to Peters decision to not re-friend Ned/MJ at the end of the movie to keep them safe As you guys said this was a fun ass movie but I do feel like some sloppy writing was given a pass because of the fan service/nostalgia factor

i saw somewhere that peter couldn’t use his stark suits at the end of the movie is because they no longer recognize who he is due to the memory wipe. whether that’s what was intended or not i don’t know but i feel like it’s a viable and sad explanation.

You guys are the best I've been looking forward to this podcast 😁😁 I will say I disagree about the bridge fight because I think the pacing and intensity of it was a lot more like I expect between those two. IMO, spidey is supposed to move with that weightless feeling and doc oc typically tries to win with overwhelming force and battlefield confusion. I can totally see your opinion of it as well, especially regarding the stakes of it all. It just worked great for me! Can't really argue with any of your other points other than to say I'll allow to have this movie lmao

One thing I do love about these Marvel movies' Dr. Strange. He isn't just "Dr. Strange". He is still directly connected to the place and people who taught him magic and, presumably, his magical class mates. They're an organization, which makes much more sense than just "you sorcerer supreme now, go do your own thing on your own lol" the comics often have. Spoilers: I totally agree that they're both making it possible for Sony to take Spider-Man in isolation in the future if that is how they decide to move forward and moving Peter into young adult territory. Both by the loss of all his parental figures and he just has to do it all on his own now, as well as the actual age and environment (he is college age and presumably out of high school now). And of course the very decision he makes at the end, plenty of adults would botch that, but he grew the fuck up and did it. Fun thing, Tom's Peter did kill the being that killed aunt May, because that was the Goblin, not Norman, and when he cures Norman, the Goblin is effectively destroyed. Also, YES. This was a much better One More Day than One More Day. Peter fucking up then sacrificing his personal life for others because he logics the problem's solution and is willing to sacrifice (because in the end Peter thought of the solution, Strange just gave him the basic info and had the knowledge to judge if the proposal would work), that is a much more spider-man way of ending his relationship than "deal with the wanna be devil".

in regard to Chadwick's brother commenting about recasting in MCU, I've only got two words: Don Cheadle

Loved this Movie you guys woke me up but is ok I love the m8s

I don't know about the points made in this review, I didn't see the plot as "fan service", or "stupid". That Batman vs Superman comparison was BLASPHEMOUS. I think another watch will make it click better for you two, because some information and plot points must have been ignored or overlooked.

14:10 that was literally supposed to be the plot for Ben 10. The Omnitrix was supposed to be able to turn Ben into other versions of himself.

With it now being established that it's possible for characters to appear from previous franchises.... Imagine if Marvel just went full balls to the wall nuts and decided to bring back the original Fantastic Four, specifically one Mr Johnathan Storm ala Chris Evans.... Everyone just super confused about how Cap is back, why cap is back and also why the fuck is he on fire?

Let's be clear: the best philly cheese steak isn't in Philly: it's Gaetano's Pennypacker, just outside Philly in Willingboro, South Jersey. These are facts.

Jet Li's, The One, was dope.

As a Philadelphian I can say I've never heard someone from Philly say either Gino's or Pat's are their favorite cheesesteaks. Personally, my favorite is from Angelo's on S 9th St, especially since they bake their own bread.

Doc Oc doesn’t get sent back to drowning in the Hudson. He gets sent back to where he has Spider-Man by the neck. Also when they’re sent back I believe it would cause a branch timeline that they are now the variant of.

I understand the whole nostalgia bit but it could have easily not worked as well as it did and they pulled it off very well. The movie had great action(some of the best Spidey action weve seen), good emotional moments and tension, good performances, and there were a lot of great shots in this very well directed. And yeah prob the biggest criticism is prob the plot. Yeah it’s is contrived and kinda hand wavy in some parts but it facilitated this great thing that was a big moment for a lot of peoples lives especially with what we’ve gone though the last two years. And honestly even if Tobey and Andrew weren’t in it I think it still would have been a great movie. Like if we just got Tom fighting those villains. Tom and his supporting cast did well and the villains were all good. Excited to see where this goes next. Hopefully Jon Watts comes back. See

While only a small sample size in the grand scheme, I went with a friend whose familiarity of the universe is mostly comics and then two of the Raimi films but he still really enjoyed it and it made him more interested in watching the mcu.

I enjoyed the movie greatly and my enjoyment is emboldened by immediately watching this great review!

All I want for Christmas is the die hard commentary for free.

Electro did know that peter Parker was Spider-Man. They meet in the elevator at oscorp and then peter takes the mask off later

I really think this movie was amazing, but maybe not spectacular. In execution and audacity. They basically pulled "A wizard did it!" to get Spider-man where he needed to be and extricate himself from his greater MCU baggage. Like his six movie appearances now serve as some kinda extended prequel/origin. And all the little things like various character interactions like the webbing convos and Otto holding an Arc reactor with Tobey and basically seeing his life's work that cost him his wife right there. Between that and the nanotech, Stark would be a real annoyance to even "normal" mad scientists. I think his digital footprint and all records had to be removed, there is no way a kid his age would be paying for coffee with cash otherwise.

I honestly love this movie and think it would really well even if I wasn't a massive spiderman fan. The trio of mj, Ned, and Peter have excellent chemistry, it had me almost tear up twice, and Willem Dafoe is absolutely excellent

I would have loved it if, when Doctor Strange returned and met the other Spider-Men, Tobey said something like "Hey I know you" or something to acknowledge the fact that Dr Strange exists in the Raimi universe.

Potential spoilers below the thing: They should have had MJ pick up the regular goatee beard template, then pick up a second evil goatee beard template, and look at them both quizzically to foreshadow evil Dr Strange.

They couldve built up the Sinister Six over time in the MCU like Marvel did Thanos and really make it feel earned, but this was a wild, zany clusterf**k that felt like one of those spooky carnival tram rides where stuff just keeps jumping out at you.