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Only the unit that is shot at gets driven back. Friendly units in the path of a unit driven back can make way. This may cause confusion. The video on confusion provides examples.

@@shawnzeppo4361 thanks for watching! I generally use millimetres to decide which target is closer, so if one target is 10.4 cm (104 mm) away and another is 10.6 cm (106mm), you have to target the first. If there is still a choice of targets, then declare the target at the point you make the shooting attack. So for example, you have a unit of cannon that must target an enemy unit of knights, and a unit of crossbows that may target the same enemy unit of knights. The cannon go first and cause 2 hits. The crossbows can now choose to add their fire to the same target to try and remove a stand.

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Interesting question. Does a stand that would support in combat count as already engaged for the purposes of stand and shoot attacks against the charging unit? Or is the intent to permit stand and shoot attacks provided the stand is not physically contacted by the chargers and can draw line of sight? I will raise this with the rules comittee.

@@iainmstanding Dear Ianimstanding, in case this helps, whoever translated the original Warmaster rulebook into Spanish interpreted it as "stands in contact" not as "stands engaged in combat." that would make sense of the annotation of the text from "remember that stands touching corner to corner are engaged"

@@grm746 that makes sense and is how I have always played it, but the question is valid so I will seek a definite answer.

So the ruling from the rules comittee is that stands that would be in a supporting position are permitted to stand and shoot provided they have line of sight and are not in contact with the enemy. It is only stands that are already in base contact with the enemy that cannot stand and shoot. Whilst the rules for support indicate that a supporting stand is counted as being in combat, and therefore it's unit is in combat, that does not prevent a stand and shoot attack being made against a new charger provided stands have LoS and are not in contact with the enemy. A wording change is probably in order to clarify this in the rule book.

To stand and shoot at a charging enemy, shooting stands must be able to draw line of sight to the charging unit at any point during the charge move, including once the charging unit has formed a battle line. So if any charging stand ends up in the line of sight of the shooting stands before, during or after the charge move takes place, you can stand and shoot.

@iainmstanding my reading of the rule suggests that it would be hard for infantry to be flank charged by a full unit of infantry without getting to shoot. I.e. First stand going centre to centre would be already in LoS. Or am I missing something crafty?

@@Jimbo818 correct.

@iainmstanding how about cavalry? Is it possible to flank charge at full strength and remain out of LoS? I.e. 1st is centre to centre and remaining form line toward the rear of the chargee.

@@Jimbo818 yes, provided you are putting as many stands from the charging unit in contact with the enemy.

Oh yes. Never leave your units in column formation in front of cannon.

Here's the quick way to check line of sight for ordinary units. Place a ruler or tape measure at right angles against the front of the shooter's stand , so the ruler or tape measure forms a straight line extending either side of the base. Anything under the ruler or tape measure, or anything in front of it, looking forwards from the shooter, is in line of sight. Otherwise it's not in line of sight.

@@iainmstanding They are along the same line so must be able to see each other. It's maths

@@geeksworkshop I'm afraid that's just your opinion, not the rules. Pg 27 of the rulebook shows the line of sight diagram which supports my explanation.

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OK I will seek advice from chaos dwarf generals and do a video soon

@@iainmstanding wow thank you so much! this community is very welcoming to newcomers, i’m very appreciative of all the help i’ve received and for the amazing work you do

Only if the target unit is no wider than the stand of pistoliers blocking Los from the other stands. If the target unit is even a fraction wider than the nearest pitolier stand then the other stands will be able to see past it to the target.

@@iainmstanding ah, of course. Thanks for clarifying 👍 So they don't need to be in that staggered irregular formation due to them having 360 degrees LOS. This is because they can draw LOS from any edge of their base whereas normal missile units have to draw LOS from their front edge only

@@dominicnzl you got it!

No. All stands shoot at the closest target to the shooting unit as a whole. You only split fire when some stands cannot see the same target. See 4:00 In making this video I realised I had been playing it wrong for years!

Ok ty