Well That's Not Good! Nissan Titan XD Cummins 5.0 Turbo Diesel V8 Teardown. A Costly Failure!

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Жыл бұрын

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Sorry about the 1 week hiatus, I am back and I have somehow wrangled a Cummins 5.0L V8 from a 2017 Titan XD! Of all of the hard to find cores, I surely thought I'd never have the chance to get one but HERE. WE. ARE.
This core was also very expensive compared to my average core cost.
What a strange failure! I have heard this is a somewhat common failure amongst these engines but I don't know exactly what causes it.
Overall this was a VERY simple and easy to work on engine, which was nice to get back into the swing of.
Why am I doing this? My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business in Saint Louis MO. Part of our model is parting out blown engines to salvage the good parts. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those that do!
I hope you enjoy this teardown, as always I appreciate all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
Catch you on the next one!
-Eric

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@mhymyk4022
@mhymyk4022 Жыл бұрын
The sound of a consumable part getting thrown across the shop after a "it's in pretty good shape" quote never gets old
@jaymorrison2419
@jaymorrison2419 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it will ever get old if it hasn’t by now.
@NXT_LVL
@NXT_LVL Жыл бұрын
* cat screaming in the distance *
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: He threw the pry bar instead, and sold the water pump to the the first person who asked, and hasn't seen this video.
@llagona
@llagona 11 ай бұрын
I came to the comments when I heard it, It didn't take much to find the reference. Top comment as of now.
@donsoule6411
@donsoule6411 4 ай бұрын
@@llagona " 😊.p 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 ppppppp😊😊 😊 😊 😊 Pp 😊p P
@clys69
@clys69 7 ай бұрын
The injection pump was loose because he tried removing it before selling the core to you. Those three bolts are actually studs - the pump is held on by nuts on those studs which doesn't require access to the geartrain side of the pump. What the PO didn't account for was having to take the drive nut off the front of the pump and likely gave up, leaving the pump loose like that.
@dougberry2815
@dougberry2815 Жыл бұрын
As a former Master Nissan tech, seeing broken crankshafts were extremely common on these 5.0's, especially the 2016 MY. The crank had a weak design, and they would break in the area in the video. If they were kept stock and not juiced up, they generally were ok. Lots of farmers in my area bought the Titan Diesels and expected Chev/Dodge/Ford diesel power out of these engines, but they weren't intended for that kind of work.
@bestbroseph1258
@bestbroseph1258 Жыл бұрын
they should have been because thats the target market for large diesel trucks, hard work.
@nickh3809
@nickh3809 Жыл бұрын
Imagine making a diesel full sized truck, and not 'designing it' for that kind of work 😂 AKA Nissan had no idea or business making diesel trucks
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Жыл бұрын
@@nickh3809 ive worked mine (2016) hsrd and driven it hard since I first bought it. I regularly tow heavy with it and have had zero issues. Ive had the truck 5 years now and almost 100,000 miles and no problems yet (knock on wood). It tows with the same stability of a 3/4 ton but rides way better. Pulls my tractor lile it isnt even there. I tow with the 30hp tune and it really pulls like a freight train. Ive worked it in the oilfield on these rough lease roads since I first bought it. Only thing ive done is brake pads, upgraded to Bilstein 5100 series shocks amd replaced the turbo actuator because it was sticking. Other than that its neen perfect. The seats are more comfortable than any other truck ive driven, and I love how you can adjust the headlights from a dial on the dash so if youre hauling or towing heavy you can dip the lights down so its back on the road instead of blinding oncoming traffic.
@justinmiller9380
@justinmiller9380 Жыл бұрын
They purposely design them cheap like this so when u do the ultimate evil and delete it. It will fail on you
@zackzittel7683
@zackzittel7683 Жыл бұрын
7,000lb truck making only 310/500 isn’t adequate for towing by modern standards. I have a 19 year old Ford that weighs 5,400lbs and makes 400/710 not crazy numbers but it’s power to weight ratio is pretty decent.
@aviator97msncom
@aviator97msncom 11 ай бұрын
I broke a crank in a 87 supra between cylinder 1 and 2. Felt a slight vibration and pulled over in the middle of nowhere 20 miles from home. grabbed the dampener and could feel the crank wiggle. Figured screw it and drove it home. Amazing engine Toyota made, ran on all 6 with a slight vibration. Rebuilt it and drove it for years.
@peted5217
@peted5217 6 күн бұрын
Ya, your experience is a kinda normal Toyota thing. The broken crank is unusual. I like to use quality aftermarket dampers if lotsa hi RPM use planned.
@eeffreef330
@eeffreef330 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric. I'm a parts guy at a Nissan dealership but I've never even seen one of these come in, so this video was quite a treat. We actually wont even work on these trucks as our lifts REALLY struggle with them. They can weigh over 7,000 pounds. They've actually broken a couple of our older lifts from what our master techs have told me. Gas titan engine cores are QUITE common. That'd be an interesting teardown. Love the channel man, keep doing what you're doing
@doubleaaaron
@doubleaaaron Жыл бұрын
It's very interesting to hear from a parts guy what corrs you get in return. My friend had a..oh i believe 05 titan (which yes i know its older) but it was a great truck. So i wonder if the cores are the new gen or older or just both? Thanks for the info. Have a great day!
@eeffreef330
@eeffreef330 Жыл бұрын
@@doubleaaaron the new gens seem to have some oiling issues that lead to their demise. The older ones don't have it nearly as bad from what I've seen
@Mittomere
@Mittomere Жыл бұрын
I love my Armada! I've been wanting him to tear down a Vk56DE awhile!
@jamesbael6255
@jamesbael6255 Жыл бұрын
You sound like a service writer
@chestrockwell8328
@chestrockwell8328 Жыл бұрын
My automotive career started as a Nissan Parts guy in 1990. Still remember the Oil Filter part number started 15208 or 15280.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
40:06 It's probably torsional vibration. You see this with the Ford 300 I6. That thing is FUCKING INDESTRUCTIBLE, and the stock crank is more than happy to spit out over a thousand horsepower if enough snails are hung off the side. But if you rev it much past 6500 that 3 foot long crank just vibrates itself clean in two. Starts resonating like a guitar string and POING!. Straight six Cummins diesels in Ram trucks are known to do this when revved much past the factory redline as well. Fix is the same in both applications: Fit a harmonic balancer that is capable of changing the resonance so the crank doesn't explode itself. It's also why those straight eights you see in cars from the 1930s, 40s, early 50s rarely revved much past 3,000RPM. The cranks were so long that they would start resonating, snap themselves in half. V8s tend to be much more resistant to this failure mode because their cranks are much shorter(And thus resonate at much higher frequencies), but given this engine was 'tuned' it's entirely possible that it simply revved high enough to vibrate the crank apart. Where this crank failed also lends credence to this. A crank that fails due to excessive torque on it is usually going to shear the snout or the flexplate flange off, depending on which end was connected to the overload. A crank that fails due to harmonic resonance tends to fail right there where it necks down into a journal somewhere. My best guess for this engine's cause of death is operator error. Excessive RPM due to the operator deleting/raising the rev limiter and pushing the engine too hard without making the appropriate modifications to support that higher redline.
@mikebaz7843
@mikebaz7843 Жыл бұрын
Nissan TD42 engines snap crankshafts semi-regularly near #6 too
@r0ck_ste4dy83
@r0ck_ste4dy83 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately these are snapping in stock trucks as well or I'd be likely to agree with your assessment of the error.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
@@r0ck_ste4dy83 Entirely possible the factory redline is too high or the engineers missed a carried 1 when mathing out the harmonic balancer.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
@Retired Bore damper balancer it's called both through various part catalogs back through the years. Does the same job either way.
@r0ck_ste4dy83
@r0ck_ste4dy83 Жыл бұрын
@C6 Modellsport I bought my XD with 27k miles on it. Happened to noticed the harmonic balancer/dampener had a slight "wobble" while running. It wasn't loose, just wasn't running completely true. Replaced it somewhere in the first 3k miles I owned it and I check it every so often. So far the replacement runs true. There was some speculation in the XD community that a poor design of the dampener/balancer contributed to the crankshaft failures. An aftermarket company was even willing to develop one if they had enough pre-orders but it never happened. Most felt the price was too high for a 'maybe'.
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger Жыл бұрын
I recently went to a Cummins Insite/Aftertreatment class, and someone had said that the 5.0 is the least desirable engine Cummins has ever made.
@TheEricwhittemore
@TheEricwhittemore Жыл бұрын
Former Titan XD diesel owner here. I bought my 2018 Titan XD midnight edition new in September of 2018. Had 190 miles on it at delivery. It was an absolute amazing truck and handled every load I put behind it amazingly. In January of 2022 it started to sound different, like a knock rather than a clatter that a diesel typically has. This was at 47,000 miles. I took it to Nissan numerous times and told them something wasn’t right. They had corporate specialists come in and look at the truck and I was told numerous times it was fine. In May of 2022, with my fully loaded 8.5x20 enclosed trailer attached, the crank snapped at 55,000 miles. It was violent. Nissan replaced the engine at no cost to me. Total bill was over $22k! I sold the truck to Carmax 7 days after getting it back. Really miss the truck, but to much of a risk when using it at a commercial vehicle.
@MegaSling
@MegaSling Жыл бұрын
Had the same truck. Biggest mistake I've ever made. Left me on the side of the road 4 times for EGR, DEF, turbo and fuel pump failures. Wasn't gonna wait for the crank to go so I traded it in while I could still get some money for it. I don't really blame Nissan but rather Cummins. Their little V8 experiment screwed over countless customers.
@onurgns
@onurgns Жыл бұрын
I thought Cummins makes good engines how come they end up this engines
@tcstone8539
@tcstone8539 Жыл бұрын
@@onurgns Ford bought Cummins and rebranded their powerstroke as a Cummins. If it's not a straight six it's not a Cummins
@dougb4956
@dougb4956 Жыл бұрын
@@onurgns My 18 year old 6.0 Powerstroke is motoring along happily. 🙂
@jimcarney7174
@jimcarney7174 Жыл бұрын
@@dougb4956 Hey Doug, I have a ‘06 model F250 FX4 that I bought in Nov ‘05… I’ve had 1 glow plug replaced and the Turbo cleaned and miked to factory spec. That was about 10 years ago, other than that the engine has never had a wrench put on it. In Nov of ‘23 she’ll be 18 years old. Over these past 17 years all I’ve ever heard is how bad the 6.0 is. I don’t get it? It’s a 325hp 570 ft/lb torque motor. It was never supposed to be a D9 dozer or a 10sec drag strip engine. I’ve often wondered if I was just fortunate because I chose the “Tow Boss” option, the 6 speed auto trans (a $6k adder as I remember it) It came with a larger cooler. All I do know is that I can’t imagine buying a truck, having it do everything it was supposed to do and spending any less on repairs on it. Heck, my ignorance caused the turbo carboning up by excessive Idleing, which I stopped doing after the $650.00 cleaning! I can’t tell you the numbers of people who have asked me if I was interested in selling them my truck. All I can say is that I’ve never regretted purchasing my truck and I’m glad to hear that I’m not the only 6.0 owner that feels the same way. Thanks, Jim
@patrickm3534
@patrickm3534 Жыл бұрын
The guys in the Titan XD group will love this.
@marshmower
@marshmower Жыл бұрын
"Spins nice. No damage to the impeller." "WHAmmmmmm!!"
@ryanvanario
@ryanvanario Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the recent diesel content. A lot of people are undereducated in the operations of a diesel engine and just tearing it down provides a HUGE understanding
@VMac822
@VMac822 Жыл бұрын
As a Cummins owner I loved this video. The crank failure issues is unfortunate. I was aware of this engine dating back to the early 2000s as a DEER development project. There was a V6 as well but it was never developed to market. I am hoping you’ll do a teardown of a 3L baby Duramax.
@JAMESWUERTELE
@JAMESWUERTELE Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to own a Frontier with that v6. Obviously non emission.
@Richard-gz3zv
@Richard-gz3zv Жыл бұрын
Of course it was,I heard about th
@baxs5076
@baxs5076 Жыл бұрын
Second the BabyMax.
@jsawyer0617
@jsawyer0617 Жыл бұрын
The mini max is the same engine as the CDL diesel in 2004-6 Jeep Liberty(s)
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- Жыл бұрын
@@jsawyer0617 Isn't the Jeep engine a 4 cyl?
@wickedcabinboy
@wickedcabinboy Жыл бұрын
I truly love watching your engine autopsies. This one was remarkable. I am by no means a mechanic but these videos are really an education in themselves.
@jannejohansson3383
@jannejohansson3383 Жыл бұрын
He should use that cutter what resonates and uses half circular disc. Then cutting engine piece by piece and "this looks reasonable, that engine has burned a lot of oil it's lifetime.. etc" and finally put pieces to metal box and welded it and buried to back yard 😀
@je1279
@je1279 Жыл бұрын
"It generally helps to get all the bolts out. That's been my experience" 🤣
@MikeL-FL
@MikeL-FL Жыл бұрын
Since you asked, according to the Service manual, torque spec on the interior head bolts is 89ft/lbs (120n/m) plus 180 degrees. The outside ones are only 17ft/lbs (23n/m).
@RKDub5479
@RKDub5479 Жыл бұрын
Well 30 ft lbs Then 89 ft lbs then 180 degrees
@76629online
@76629online Жыл бұрын
I noticed that high pressure pump didn't have threaded mount holes. Those bolts you removed from the front were likely just the mounting studs for it. It probably had nuts on them from the back side of the pump. Someone probably tried to remove the pump and keep it when they realized it wasn't so simple to remove and they just left it in the halfway pried out position you found it in.
@engnerdan
@engnerdan Жыл бұрын
I was thinking it was a manufacturing problem with the pump. The holes were never tapped. I would assume they were using a thread forming (forging) tap instead of a thread cutting tap. The hole would be drilled much larger than it would be for a thread cutting operation, large enough that with an impact you could get the bolts to start threading a bit into the unthreaded holes.
@76629online
@76629online Жыл бұрын
@@engnerdan You think too much.
@bcraiders11
@bcraiders11 Жыл бұрын
Your 100% correct. Expensive pump but to hard to remove.
@canlib
@canlib Жыл бұрын
@@76629online I think he only thought once.
@firstielasty1162
@firstielasty1162 9 ай бұрын
I think the original thought of "nuts behind the pump" is correct. Thread forming taps do require a larger tap drill, but never larger than the major diameter (or even close to it, really) of the fastener. If it were tap drilled that large, the tap wouldn't even contact anything to even attempt to form threads. I think nuts were removed from behind the pump.
@applefordguy76
@applefordguy76 Жыл бұрын
That engine was originally slated to go in the 1500 RAM. But it wasn't efficient enough, so Chrysler went with the ecodiesel. Another fun fact, before Nissan picked up the 5.0 Cummins, Nissan was considering the Navistar 6.4... Dodged the bullet on that one Nissan!!
@americansmark
@americansmark Жыл бұрын
Not really. The 5.0 is awful. There are no parts for it and they break all the time.
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 Жыл бұрын
@@americansmark not to mention, it is missing 8 head bolts 😂
@spggarage5690
@spggarage5690 Жыл бұрын
@@americansmark Not sure if you know just how bad the Navistar 6.4 was, Haha
@PaulAngileri
@PaulAngileri Жыл бұрын
Looks like Nissan put themselves in an unwinnable situation with the XD: 2 bad engine options and a chassis without the increased tow/payload capacity to justify them anyways.
@SkSKSK283
@SkSKSK283 Жыл бұрын
@@spggarage5690 pretty much everything wrong with them had been discovered and there’s fixes for almost all of them. Me personally I’d rather have a 7.3 or 6.7 but It’s a toss up between the 6.4 and the Cummins 5.0. A race to the bottom of you ask me.
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 Жыл бұрын
sweet, never seen the insides of this engine. my 12valve superiority complex kicked in. excited for this teardown
@harrywalker5836
@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын
12v. heavy, no power, thats, why they last..i have an mwm sprint 4.2tdi, 700nm, 235 hp. 12.5 lt 100..weighs about 2 of your cylinders..german..
@rafa1bertoldi1
@rafa1bertoldi1 Жыл бұрын
@@harrywalker5836 not german, mwm sprint is Brazilian
@509brown
@509brown Жыл бұрын
So good to have you back, great tear-down as usual.
@walterhambrick8705
@walterhambrick8705 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. As a former auto technician, it is fun to watch. It is much easier to take an engine apart when you know you are not going to have to put it back together.
@ryanbrown918
@ryanbrown918 Жыл бұрын
What an engine to find for a tear down! 👏 I'm guessing that CP4 was pulled back because the owner or shop wanted to keep it/reuse it, as they are not cheap. But since it required the removal of the front cover, I'm guessing they gave up. Looks like that chain guide was damaged in the process of half-removal.
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын
I couldn't think of how it possibly got like that but seems like you might be right, could they have gotten back that far without getting to the bolts behind the vacuum pump tho?
@Dukerdr
@Dukerdr Жыл бұрын
@@yeahitskimmel I was thinking the CP4 was installed at the factory, but not torqued down. It just took 107,000 miles for it to loosen and back itself out that far.
@joep1278
@joep1278 Жыл бұрын
But the bolts were tight
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 Жыл бұрын
@@joep1278 only because the pump had shifted back and placed pressure on them as they loosened.
@joep1278
@joep1278 Жыл бұрын
@@johnt.848 idk man, can’t say I’ve ever seen bolts loosen and then re tighten themselves to a point that you crack them loose just like a normally torqued down bolt? The only thing that would make sense to me is they were cross threaded on some type of re-assembly and due to that the pump didn’t line up with the housing hole square, so the pump didn’t suck down into the hole. Then the bolts were forced down tight anyway through the cross threading. It would be like trying to pull the pump in with one bolt all the way in one shot, instead of tightening the 3 evenly to pull it in. I don’t know about this specific pump, but I’ve changed a fair few injection pumps that will bind up in the housing if you aren’t careful. It had to have been leaking oil there as well
@oldtanker4860
@oldtanker4860 Жыл бұрын
Now that was a wonderful bit of carnage. I was shocked at the blue ting to the crank. When you popped off the oil pan and I saw the crank weight I thought it was almost like firearm bluing. I really nice shade of blue there. I agree with you, that was a very noisy shut down.
@majorwedgie8166
@majorwedgie8166 8 ай бұрын
It sounded like grandma's wind chimes when the mud dobbers moved into the tubes 😅 klunk
@gryfandjane
@gryfandjane Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a good one. I can only imagine the heat this failure must have generated. That blue coloring was scary… bet that crank was glowing red-hot.
@lunchboxproductions1183
@lunchboxproductions1183 Жыл бұрын
About 500°. That deep blue color is actually an oxide film that tells the max temp it reached. If it got red hot it would have a scaly gray appearance.
@johnstreet797
@johnstreet797 Жыл бұрын
it was so hot they drove it in to the lake
@beantownthings
@beantownthings Жыл бұрын
This is easily hands down my favorite YT channel. I came for the VR30DDTT teardown since I have one, and I stayed for the shenanigans. This dude is like my spirit animal LOL.
@freeflub
@freeflub Жыл бұрын
monetarily speaking, i really hope the shenanigans gave enough views to overcome the value of the broken crank lol
@christian6381
@christian6381 Жыл бұрын
The nice comments about the water pump gets me anxious for the MLB pitch to the scrap bin that's about to happen😂
@Akborn81
@Akborn81 Жыл бұрын
Man I was starting to have teardown withdrawal lol glad you're feeling better!
@JCPaintGuy
@JCPaintGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad you and the family are feeling better Eric!! Your fans certainly missed you last Saturday. I drove a 2017 Titan XD diesel 4x4 crew cab for just over three years for work. At 79,000 miles it went into limp mode one morning on the way to work. After nursing it a couple of miles to the Nissan dealership and dropping it off, we found out 3 days later that the actuator that drives the hybrid-compound turbo variable geometry had failed. It took four weeks to get one because they were failing at an alarming rate. I naturally did some digging on KZfaq and came across a video where the same thing happened to another guy - but his failed at about 40k, I believe. When he pulled all the piping, the turbos, and the actuator off the engine, he found that it was so badly coked up, that they had to scrub it with gasoline to get it clean. Come to find out, this had been happening all over America with this engine and Nissan was trying to ignore it. I sent the link to the video to my service guy at Nissan and asked him to please pull all of the turbo piping and the turbos to inspect and clean them. He said “No” because Nissan wouldn’t pay for that under warranty, only to R&R the bad actuator. I asked him if he had watched the video, and he said he did. I asked him if he had kicked it upstairs and he said he did. I asked him what the response was and he said they wouldn’t comment on it and to replace the bad part. Four weeks after the truck went to the dealership, we got it back. 8 weeks after we got the truck back, we sold it before the warranty was out. The same thing happened to the other Nissan XD diesel in the company fleet. Same scenario: about 4-5 weeks to get the part, and we sold the truck about a month after we got it back. It’s too bad. That could have been a great truck. Unfortunately, Nissan had to monkey with the engine instead of just buying it from Cummins. It was overpriced, barely had more towing capacity than the 5.6 gas engine, and the transmission totally sucked. The truck was quiet, rode nice, and got pretty good mpg’s for what it was.
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti Жыл бұрын
Quite the story
@ExAutoAnalyst
@ExAutoAnalyst Жыл бұрын
Nissan didn’t monkey with it. It was a bad design from Cummins. Nissan bought the entire thing from Cummins.
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC Жыл бұрын
I'm in construction supply and also know lots of people with boats and horses. Nobody bought a Titan XD diesel. When you need your diesel truck to get something done, you need something you can rely on 300 miles from home with a trailer. Nissan had one chance to start their own diesel customer base. They failed miserably. They had a chance too, as a lower cost fullsize truck diesel option would have sold if it was good. The last gen Titan's biggest flaw was its crazy thirsty 5.7 V8 (compared to modern competition), so I can see why they wanted an affordable diesel option.
@ExAutoAnalyst
@ExAutoAnalyst Жыл бұрын
@@BReal-10EC yeah Cummins dropped the ball. Hard.
@MrDrmorbid
@MrDrmorbid Жыл бұрын
The engine has nothing to do with Nissan supposedly monkeying with it. The engine is even listed in Cummins' catalog and on their site for sale.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Жыл бұрын
Glad you're feeling better Eric! A broken crank...now that's impressive...
@Daniel-Johnson
@Daniel-Johnson Жыл бұрын
Good to see you feeling better dude! Always look forward to the videos! I have had my fair share of broken cranks and you would be very surprised at how little to almost no noise they can make depending on where the break occurs. I pulled a 454 out of a customers truck because of a low oil pressure and very faint odd sound complaint, truck had 135k on it at the time and the customer had told me it had the faint odd sound for almost a year prior before he brought it in. he didn't drive the truck daily, it was only used when towing his 36' RV. I personally drove that truck during the diag process and if you were not listening for it you would never know that is how quite it was. I couldn't believe it when I tore it down the crank came out in 2 pieces just like yours just did however it was a clean break right in the center journal. it was like 4 of the cylinders were running separate of the other 4 but it was such a clean break that the 2 pieces were still in contact rotating together. I still have that crank on the shelf and I often get asked the story on it I would have never believed it myself but I had to I was looking at it with my own eyes! Keep up the good work Eric and thank you for sharing!
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 Жыл бұрын
I broke a 1200cc air cooled VW crank that ran quiet but made a nice ding sound like a bell ringing on random rotations at idle
@vicferrari9380
@vicferrari9380 Жыл бұрын
My 454 broke across the rear rod journal. It stayed together long enough to load it on the trailer. It was in a 87 3+3 1ton. It vibrated so bad that it broke the rear crank journal out of the block. Lol! But it still ran and loaded itself..
@169abr
@169abr Жыл бұрын
These things sound cool as hell too when certain parts fall off, mix of a newer Powerstroke and a Duramax.
@ryanbrown918
@ryanbrown918 Жыл бұрын
They definitely have a hint of 6.0L when they go on a diet.
@169abr
@169abr Жыл бұрын
@@ryanbrown918 it’s for sure in there, weight watchers works wonders man.
@MrMattman9494
@MrMattman9494 Жыл бұрын
I had one for 4 years, and LOVED IT.
@jamesstouffer1845
@jamesstouffer1845 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Titan XD Cummins with 62,000 miles and it runs fantastic, I bought it used with 23,000 miles and it had AFE performance products on it. When I did research on this company, these are modest modifications, Momentum HD Cold Air Intake System and scorcher power module as well as the 5" exhaust. I think this really helped the performance of my truck without overkill. I also got a letter yesterday from Nissan, they are giving extended warranties on the Turbo Actuator and the Turbocharger for 10 years or 150,000 miles from the manufactured build date. Plus if you had them replace you might be eligible for full reimbursement, if you own a Titan you should have the letter or get it soon. I love the truck and have no desire to abuse it, love the tear down watch it all the way through, great video!!
@hangman396
@hangman396 Жыл бұрын
That's a new one for sure... Great job as always, glad you are feeling better... It's nice to get to watch these again,Thank you as always...
@yodasbff3395
@yodasbff3395 Жыл бұрын
Interesting tear down. Good to see you have regained your health. Thanks for the video. 👍
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving insight on the general value for a stripped core.
@CrustyAbsconder
@CrustyAbsconder Жыл бұрын
You are a good mechanic and a great teacher.
@007natar
@007natar Жыл бұрын
Got to love the home cylinder deactivation method!
@robertf6344
@robertf6344 Жыл бұрын
Well, I had a 1980 Camaro that broke a crank. It was a 327 that I built which included a high HP at lower RPMs cam. Heavy car with a 2.56 rear end but still. The crank broke right at the rearmost main. Turns out it was welded up there and sold as new from NAPA. NAPA made good on the crank by replacing it. When it broke the engine sounded like it was full of unbreakable coffee cups.
@lizzard8785
@lizzard8785 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your content bro, keep it up and don't change.... love the consistency as far as what I learn and how you entertain with the "thats what she said" and bad dad jokes..... always a great addition to my week. Take care!
@Cherokeelion
@Cherokeelion Жыл бұрын
I own one of these and seeing the insides is a treat. The 5.0 is almost indestructible if taken care of and and not abused, mine has 100k on it and runs smoother than new. Oil analysis shows no wear concerns yet. The tranny attached make the combo surprisingly beefy, overbuilt. I understand folks who question the 5/8s size and 6 lug hubs… I feel Nissan missed a LOT of sales not getting closer to what the other 3/4 tons can do. I pull mostly a single car hauler and the 5.0 is never overtaxed.
@joeagri1
@joeagri1 Жыл бұрын
I also own a 2017 XD with 40k and this is an eye opener. I do oil analysis every time I change the oil. Hope I have better luck. I love the truck.
@Cherokeelion
@Cherokeelion Жыл бұрын
@@joeagri1 mine is a 2016 Platinum. It is a very solid truck, Im just disappointed the 5.0 was discontinued. My big worry is parts availability eventually.
@Greasytireguyuntilidie
@Greasytireguyuntilidie Жыл бұрын
@@Cherokeelion would you buy another? been shopping for one used, have a 22 diesel Colorado just not enough truck.
@Cherokeelion
@Cherokeelion Жыл бұрын
@@Greasytireguyuntilidie truthfully? Even as I like mine i wouldnt buy another diesel titan. Discontinued motor means parts priblems in future and its a good motor in wrong platform
@Cherokeelion
@Cherokeelion Жыл бұрын
And it pains me to say that because i really do like my truck
@christian6381
@christian6381 Жыл бұрын
Boy does it feel good to watch another teardown!
@chrisbrown3925
@chrisbrown3925 Жыл бұрын
Straight cut gears on the camshaft drive! Must sound sweet...your most polished video yet, welcome back!
@wrailfan
@wrailfan Жыл бұрын
Glad to see another 'new' engine on this channel, but I'll watch any teardown here happily.
@danielharder2052
@danielharder2052 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back on your feet
@09corvettezr1
@09corvettezr1 Жыл бұрын
I was going to start shaking like an engine running with "one bad cylinder" but this teardown showed up just in time.
@runningawayvagabond5876
@runningawayvagabond5876 Жыл бұрын
Nice friend of a friend you have there! Hopefully he gives you some money back for that rusty lump.
@nigelalderman9178
@nigelalderman9178 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back in action. don't overdo it like that tune!
@ralphfeatherstone7813
@ralphfeatherstone7813 Жыл бұрын
Eric, a great teardown as usual. You have people at your shop, I suggest you remove the casters from an engine stand and weld it to a nice heavy piece of steel. Weld a few loops for forklift tines to move around the shop. It would make teardowns so much easier not to have to chase the engine stand all over the place!
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 Жыл бұрын
Expensive failure? A that's a pretty good description of that entire engine program. A complete commercial failure. As well as being a mechanical failure.
@garylarson6386
@garylarson6386 Жыл бұрын
another wonderful video, I was an electrician for the C&NW RR, we had a couple EMD SD45 crankshafts break, 20 cyl 645 cu/cyl 3600 HP crank was probably 25 feet long, head crab nuts torque 2400 lb, main bolts 750 , rods 450
@brianpatten
@brianpatten Жыл бұрын
Wowsers, what a ride. Thanks for another great video, Eric!
@dudemelonhed8508
@dudemelonhed8508 7 ай бұрын
Actually catching that bearing hit the floor and skitter so melodically across it...Beautiful my friend. Absolute gold. Great video, Great series, Great guy. I wish you all the best in the world.
@jameshayes6118
@jameshayes6118 Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate your way of teaching people appropriate way of dealing with used water pumps, i.e. tossing it something hard and try to make as much noise as possible.
@crazy4gta1
@crazy4gta1 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with used timing chain guides
@nbrowser
@nbrowser Жыл бұрын
Good to see ya back on a teardown Eric, missed ya last weekend! That said I hope your feeling better man!
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti Жыл бұрын
Lol
@MrDrmorbid
@MrDrmorbid Жыл бұрын
you're*
@greggamandabarkus4235
@greggamandabarkus4235 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDrmorbid Glad to see there is always an editor on duty. Say something nice instead of being a critic and the world will be one less asshole, Take care.
@MrDrmorbid
@MrDrmorbid Жыл бұрын
@@greggamandabarkus4235 You're*
@mudchamp2139
@mudchamp2139 Жыл бұрын
Please update us on what you do with the Engine and after a thorough cleanup on how everything looks and what's usable. I would love to see the condition of the bores and pistons . I would love to see a rebuild on your channel if you end up scoring a deal on a crank. Keep up the 5.0 Cummins videos I love it!👌
@billhewes
@billhewes Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! Just a non mechanic guy but love to watch these vedios on KZfaq. It helps me realize that I need to just continue watching and not quitting my office job. Hat's off to your talent. AWESOME editing !!!
@AlexanderBurgers
@AlexanderBurgers Жыл бұрын
Some diesel engines do have pistons that come out of the deck about as much as the thickness of the head gasket, makes for more or less zero piston to head clearance for maximum compression. But also no room for mistakes, pretty easy to smash some valves that way.
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 Жыл бұрын
That pretty blue crank remnant will make a nice desk ornament 😄 That engine looked very clean inside for a diesel with over 100K on it. Tuning it likely disabled EGR, which makes for a clean minimal soot diesel. It also appears probable that his tune disabled the engine itself by snapping it's crank in half.
@Cartier_specialist
@Cartier_specialist Жыл бұрын
Might as well because it's not good for anything else.
@04svt_twinscrew
@04svt_twinscrew Жыл бұрын
Also seemed the owner may have been using amsoil given the filter which certainly could have helped with that too.
@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 Жыл бұрын
Ha
@premiumxperiments6059
@premiumxperiments6059 Жыл бұрын
I dont think ram made a wise choice with that Italian V6. Id say its one of the worst, if not the worst modern diesel engine made.
@BigDan21.
@BigDan21. Жыл бұрын
@@premiumxperiments6059a I missing partner the conversation or has it been deleted? What does the eco diesel have to do with this video?
@Diegohall7875
@Diegohall7875 Жыл бұрын
isn't this the truck that Car and Driver Magazine did a long-term test on and called it something like 'the worst vehicle we ever tested' due to all the mechanical and electrical failures?
@marine2ful
@marine2ful Жыл бұрын
I test drove one of these and a 5.6 gasser on the same day with my 18 ft boat, and there was absolutely no reason to deal with emissions, starting in -30, and high fuel prices. That 5.6 is a beast of a gasser.
@thegreatzman
@thegreatzman Жыл бұрын
The V-8 Vivisector is back in action! Beastly teardown.
@stevebot
@stevebot Жыл бұрын
There wasn’t any viv left in that one.
@stevebot
@stevebot Жыл бұрын
I knew what you were in for the minute the HPFP pissed out water and fuel on the bench. FWIW broken cranks can be surprisingly quiet on gassers, I snapped one on a Ford with a stick, drove it for months, thought it was the clutch because I could feel it in the pedal. Changed the clutch, no difference, didn’t figure it out for another month when I was in a hurry one day and wound it up and it snapped in a second place on the other side of the rod journal, freeing the rod and allowing the crank snout to flop around and the timing belt jumped and it stopped running. Did a 6.2/6.5 GM diesel once, snapped diagonally inside the rear main cap, sounded like loose torque converter bolts.
@tomn7087
@tomn7087 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting - this is the first I have seen one of these engines torn down. Great video
@TempleOfNoMasters
@TempleOfNoMasters Жыл бұрын
Probably didn't get much from it except an awesome teardown. Thanks, great video
@gmctech
@gmctech Жыл бұрын
Actually i worked on a duramax 6.6 LMM with a broken crank and it was running and sounded more like an exhaust leak coupled with a cylinder misfire... I was in shock when i determined it was a fractured crankshaft.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
i mean you could say it definitely wasnt running on all cylinders
@gmctech
@gmctech Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but this thing drove in off the highway with a trailer loaded with lobster traps and still ran well enough you'd never have guessed the crank was broken.
@Modine.
@Modine. Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The XD Nissan Titan is a 5/8 ton truck.
@mitreswell
@mitreswell Жыл бұрын
I can understand the crank breaking if the vehicle had a manual trans and got treated a bit roughly, but not if it came out of an automatic. Another interesting video!
@mazzg1966
@mazzg1966 Жыл бұрын
Excellent teardown!! Thanks Eric
@gregsly1247
@gregsly1247 Жыл бұрын
Happy to see you back and healthy. Great video as usual. I bought a 55 Chevy with a 283, PO said it would run if I reconnected the electrical. Turned out to have a broken crankshaft as well. It was definitely noisy 😃
@lustfulvengance
@lustfulvengance Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure warm salt water is rivaled only by sulfuric acid when it comes to corrosion on steel parts 🤣🤣
@druideverett1603
@druideverett1603 Жыл бұрын
Like the change from hammer handle piston plunger to brass soft.👍👌
@johnrice8414
@johnrice8414 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the Nissan! Thanks for taking the gamble of maybe a good block! Way back...in the middle ages I had an International UD-14 diesel, running a saw mill. Started on gas, switched over to diesel. I have no idea how many hours it had on it. One cold morning I started it, no either, and it started hammering. Quick inspection through the plate on the bell housing, and the wobbling clutch assemble gave the terminal diagnosis. Nope, didn't fix it, sold the whole lump of iron to someone else, and bought a UD-16 to replace it. Really enjoy your running commentary, like using your brother-in-laws favorite shirt for an oil rag! Appreciate your youthful humor and instruction.
@Jyoungblood64
@Jyoungblood64 Жыл бұрын
Now Eric we know the strongest part of any engine are the wrist pins 😅
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Жыл бұрын
They should figure out a way to make the whole engine out of wrist pins.
@colchronic
@colchronic Жыл бұрын
15:19 The torque spec is about tree fiddy.... Plus 90°
@Cnightz
@Cnightz Жыл бұрын
Hello Papi, it's good to see you doing well. You have a great support system at home and a very incredibly strong immune system to be back at it so fast. I am like you, I think better and feel better when I am in the work zone. However, my Covid encounter wasn't so good, lucky to be alive I am. Your videos rock brother, I dig them a lot. See ya in the next post my man.
@doctwiggenberry5324
@doctwiggenberry5324 Жыл бұрын
I sure like watching you tear down. It is such a mystery and I am always wrong.
@rodb4523
@rodb4523 Жыл бұрын
I had a 17 5.6 gas Titan, they had tons of engine replacements. Mine was knocking with 28k. The motor is powerful but…transmission wasn’t nothing to brag about, shifting points were horrible.
@JohnnyAFG81
@JohnnyAFG81 Жыл бұрын
I have only seen a handful of these on the roads in my area. Great teardown. What’s the eta on a 1.4T Fiat multiair?
@frankmartin8471
@frankmartin8471 2 ай бұрын
Failed engine teardowns are always interesting. Some catastrophic failures are way more interesting than others.
@danielsacks7152
@danielsacks7152 Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised how quiet a broken crank can be! I have driven a diesel engine for over 500 miles home in a 36,000lb truck, used it a month, only to discover the crank was always broken! Seen it building diesels for AG tractors also they fail in a way that they keep turning. Only indicator initially was a constant blip in the oil pressure gauge. Bad harmonic balancer once, someone mismatched bob weights by 2lb other time! Still went 200+hrs in the field broken!
@whalley6044
@whalley6044 Жыл бұрын
To me it looks like a fatigue crack that started at the journal radius. If you still have the crank you might look closely at the other side of the broken journal and other journals. It's normal for multiple fatigue cracks to start then one grows to failure.
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk Жыл бұрын
its a fatigue crack that got a bit of help from a bad cooling layout and one miracle of a void in the manufacturing process. Theres a bubble in the exact center of that break, inside the machined faces of the crank shaft that isnt polished by wear or machine tools Thats a hell of a manufacturing defect
@josephbrabenderiii2049
@josephbrabenderiii2049 9 ай бұрын
From 40 years of designing to prevent fatigue failures, I agree. But...there is no excuse as the mechanisms are pretty well understood as is the design methods to prevent. If I were to venture a guess...a six cylinder design that was extended to eight and deficiencies got the "good enough" stamp. "Safety factors in original design will be adequate". Unfortunately (if true), the failure began from the day the engine was first put under load
@Spike-sk7ql
@Spike-sk7ql Жыл бұрын
That guy not only used an Amsoil filter, I'm willing to bet that he used their oil as well. That engine was spotless under the covers. I opened up a 2.0 4G63T with 215k on it, that I got from an Amsoil dealer, and you could have used the valve cover as a dish.
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 Жыл бұрын
Amsoil filters aren't that good and their oil is mid teir at best.
@Spike-sk7ql
@Spike-sk7ql Жыл бұрын
@@jdrok5026 keep telling yourself that man. Truth is, their oil is the best on the market. You don't have to believe me either. Just see project farm's oil tests, see the many tests that put it up against other oils, and the people who send the oils out to be analyzed.
@buddy8225
@buddy8225 Жыл бұрын
Sweet. A Cummins V8. Always thought these were unique motors. Awesome video 🐸
@baitse7676
@baitse7676 Жыл бұрын
I got a new Jeep Sahara Unlimited from Punta Gorda, FL for parts, but trying to get the motor to turn over just out of curiosity. Drained 2 gallons of salt water from the oil pan.
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 Жыл бұрын
I always love these guys who think they can out tune the Cummins engineers
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 Жыл бұрын
Most do and can. Cummins tunes are actually not optimal. They are tuned for a entire run of engines and to make emissions systems work properly. A aftermarket tune increases efficiency reliability power torque fuel economy and actually makes the engine cleaner.
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 Жыл бұрын
@@jdrok5026 the broken crank has entered the chat!!
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 Жыл бұрын
well they can until boom.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 Жыл бұрын
Optimizing for what?
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 Жыл бұрын
@@dingbop963 boom
@thurlravenscroft2572
@thurlravenscroft2572 Жыл бұрын
Had to run out to my truck at almost midnight to see why the CP was pulled back like that. It’s pretty obstructed, but it looks like those bolts must have been cross threaded. Been waiting for this video forever!
@thurlravenscroft2572
@thurlravenscroft2572 Жыл бұрын
It’s tuned, I imagine that he’s been driving under max effort a little too much to break a crankshaft like that.
@kyleturner3709
@kyleturner3709 Жыл бұрын
Stock trucks have been reported fail at the crankshaft as well. It's unknown how many have failed or how many Titan XD 5.0L were even sold. From what I have seen on groups and forums, it's more than just a few! Seems like most are usually tuned trucks but It's also stock trucks from time to time.
@messagedeleted2797
@messagedeleted2797 Жыл бұрын
The bolts are used as studs. There are 3 nuts on the valley side of the pump.
@vicarious1717
@vicarious1717 Жыл бұрын
The sped up " that's what she said" at 30:03 cracked me up. Really like the humor in your videos
@rolando7660
@rolando7660 Жыл бұрын
I broke the crank on the Cummins engine in my Peterbilt 389 this year and the noise is painfully obvious. Love the channel.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 Жыл бұрын
That engine looks quite delicate to be a diesel!
@sc5015
@sc5015 Жыл бұрын
That looks really damn clean for a diesel!
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 Жыл бұрын
It was tuned, which no doubt disabled EGR. With EGR turned off diesels can be quite clean inside.
@mcdowelltw
@mcdowelltw Жыл бұрын
That was very interesting and you did a fantastic job of explaining the failure.
@Tovvvija
@Tovvvija Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing back the water pump accent. Love it.
@rc4life445
@rc4life445 Жыл бұрын
I bet it was a spicy tune that snapped the crank in 2
@jkent9915
@jkent9915 Жыл бұрын
It was RUNNING! That’s crazy, it was running as two separate engines: a V-twin for the accessory drive and a Chrysler 239 V6 to spin the wheels. I’m sure it was rubbing and bumping but I could see where it would tend to stay together.
@mattr7274
@mattr7274 Жыл бұрын
A few episodes ago I asked for a broken crankshaft and I got it. Thank you
@finecutpost
@finecutpost Жыл бұрын
Amazing camera work thank you
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
The WABCO label on the vacuum pump is kind of interesting ... they're more well known for making parts for railroad locomotives ... I know the Titan is a pretty big truck, but ... no, it's not that big.
@JohnDoe-sm9hc
@JohnDoe-sm9hc Жыл бұрын
Wabco makes a lot of the air system parts that get used on the semis from brake systems to suspension -- almost every air dryer I ever touched was a Wabco --
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-sm9hc well that makes sense, considering one of their main contributions to railroad equipment happens to be air brake systems. Heck, they even make air horns.
@JohnDoe-sm9hc
@JohnDoe-sm9hc Жыл бұрын
@@litz13 Yeah - they actually do more than I originally thought -- but seems anything air-related for mobile applications now-a-days
@SeishukuS12
@SeishukuS12 Жыл бұрын
Based on the journal offset, I'd say it doesn't surprise me that the crank broke, especially with power mods.
@harrywalker5836
@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын
not much meat there..
@jfan4reva
@jfan4reva Жыл бұрын
Head torque specs: tighten to one Eric-meter. (screw Newton, he didn't know anything about cars.) Glad to see you're back!
@wesleybentley4466
@wesleybentley4466 Жыл бұрын
Hi, wesley here, current bright yellow titan pro4X cummins Titan owner, former Nissan master certified diesel, ev, hybrid, gtr tech. The front item is a vacuum pump, and the vacuum pump has to be removed first to remove the fuel pump. The fuel pump uses a special tool for gear removal/installation so there was no taking off the pump which led to guide damage. Hope mine lasts to 100k lol
@nelsonjv1
@nelsonjv1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what kind of special tool?
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