Lol!

Accurate lol

i thought it was just me that stewed like that

I really think these are "Disposable" cars. For what they cost I would think they would be more serviceable.

@@brianallen9810 kinda weird- i have 180k on my car now. its not rusty and it drives fine. if it was a 82 ford anything it would have been at the junkyard years ago. what do you think makes them disposable?

And no thumbnails making stupid faces.

+1 I really appreciate the down to earth and calmness of it all with a flake of sarcasm and rhyming😃

Me too

I’m glad someone said it

Definitely as above!! Love this channel.

My favorite was ,"I can't tell, something is ungood in here."

Look at the design of the engine.. french cam make better engines, that's not even a fleet engine and they use patines all over that's an engine that will fail sooner or later.

@@ovidiurusu4490 just like the renault diesel which sticking in those a and b from daimler ? real great engines, mister piston headache - such like i those known from the 1990's

I remember going to Chick Iverson Porsche/Audi in Newport Beach around 1987 and looking at an Audi Quattro. I couldn’t believe the price tag on it, not too far from a 911. To me it looked so cheap with so much plastic bodywork.

Correct, These video s never get old

I was sitting here thinking...he took all the bolts out of the cam caps, must not have a lot of pressure on th....hahaha oh shit what a mess🤣

Yeah that one made me bust out laughing. xD

Also known as a RUD. Rapid Unplanned Disassembly.

I agree with this statement.

That complexity is why I will never buy one. I like my old school 1940s-1980s US iron instead. Nice and simple.

if you pussy foot these engines, direct injection, they fk up. need to use fuel cleaner as well. idi still better.plus if it has butterflies in the inlet, which it will, like bmw ect. take them out,they destroy engines.

It’s really not that bad.

@@TestECull well LS swaps are extremely popular cos of ridiculous engines just like THIS

@@lancecooper4646 And how many LS's have we seen Eric tear down by now that've had catastrophic internal failures due to overcomplication that doesn't serve any practical benefit? Go older. Carburetted. 350 4-bolt with a massaged Q-Jet and a 268 cam will make roughly the same power with 0.0005% the complexity. And a better sound. And better reliability. And 99.99999% less randomly chucked rods.

the BSM is an higher output in the S8. That what I have.

Some R8 5.0L V10 had a water cooled alternator. I think the Passat 4.0L W8 may have had one. 4.2L Touareg's had them. BMW V8's are fairly common for having them as well.

My 2005.5 B7 Audi S4 4.2L with the Automatic had a water cooled alternator. Beefy sucker. @@corythomas4427

I actually just picked up a 2003 bmw 540i and it has a water cooled alternator too 😂

BAR 4.2 engines also have water cooled Hitachi alternators

🔫 Pew Pew ! Cracks me up every time too. It's the little things in life.

You got that right, about outta warranty ownership. It’d cost a small fortune to go thru the timing system and replace everything. Typically why people off them right before or soon after off warranty. Let someone else deal with the inevitable. Now on the flip side, to someone like me who has the facilities and capabilities to work on them, they have their place and can often be picked up cheap enough in very nice condition with the presumption of going thru and fixing/replacing alot of high dollar stuff right of the bat as preventative maintenance. That is when the price is sooo right you just basically budget that into what your not spending on buying the car itself.

regarding the a/c - they use a continuously variable displacement unit that doesnt switch on and off. Even Golfs (mk5 and newer) have this.

@@robertmason8341 Complexity of this design makes the average BMW engine look simple! This could be the poster child for German engineering run amok. Also explains how the resale value of German luxury / performance models sinks so low as they age. The third or fourth owner thinks they are getting a deal on a great ride. Then they learn how expensive it is to maintain correctly. Sooner or later something breaks and the engine has to come out to fix it. Now they know why a used Camry cost twice what their same-year used Audi cost!!!

@@billyjoejimbob56 If you got one of those cars for free plus $10,000 cash, you’ll be in the hole in one year.

@@alskooper3319 Guaranteed money pit!

Indeed!

@@lizkrinsky5209 The 97-10 Ford Explorer had a german Cologne SOHC engine that had rear chains.

@@alb12345672 And no timing marks to make it easier to work on,lol

@@KRRZ350 Just guesstimate :lol:

Ya, hay-soos. I do notice though that while he criticizes Mazda's MZR 4s for having a single-row timing chain, this V10 has several of those, and it's driving 6 more cylinders putting out 2X more power.

That failure mode does not sound desirable either 😅

Yep. I'm crocheting Christmas gifts while I watch along with some custard nog... sip, double crochet, glad I'm a Toyota girl, chain 3, single crochet, yikes, that made some noise, sip, chain three... holy schnikey what a mess... piston McCrumbs. Yep... Toyotas and Hondas for me... never had less than 248,000 on any of them and they still ran like tops when I got rid of them... and always do my services and regular oil changes. A weekly reminder on why wee do those things... or deal with malice in the palace.

what a moron which try to moralize otherones ? nothing knew in the east ?

That`s 450 horsepower at play. Well a little less since its a s6 not s8 engine but still a LOT of power

@@Veikrasome quick math given the stroke and 7000rpm redline of this engine reveals that the pistons are experiencing 20,263m/s2 of acceleration, or 2067Gs. Say the piston weighs 0.25kg (around half a pound). At 7000rpm that same piston has the effective force of 516kg (1,137lbs). That’s if it broke on a non-ignition stroke. If it broke during an ignition, then as you said, you have 435hp on top of that half ton of force.

Somebody sent it for sure😂😂

Overhead cam engines are always so complex with lots of potential breaking points.

It's honestly not that complex. I'm very familiar with them. The actual internals of most Audi engines are very strong. The components around the engine... not so much. The 4.2 v8 engine in the RS4, for example, has a closed-deck block with a ton of reinforcements, forged pistons, forged connecting rods, and a forged crankshaft. It can handle an incredible amount of abuse. This V10 is also very tough. I'm not sure how this one met its end, but most likely, it wasn't maintained properly. My Audi engine has over 120k miles on it, and the internals look brand new. There's not a single stain or varnish on anything. I've had a ton of issues with everything surrounding it, but not the engine itself.

@@ejkk9513 I used to own a 2005.5 Audi S4 with the 6-Speed Auto and loved that 4.2L V8. First thing I did after buying it, was swap out those junk plastic timing chain guides for the metal RS4 guides/tensioners. I ran it from 98k miles to 127k miles with zero issues, until one day it was 15 degrees below zero and the coolant reservoir broke in two spots pretty much draining the engine of coolant... had to get her towed somewhere and she got stolen :/ Yea, it sucks. Smoothest engine I have ever felt, the V10 is probably even better!

@ftffighter The coolant reservoir in all Audi and Volkswagen cars are designed to fail. I have replaced them on every single car that is over 10 years old. Like I said, internals are strong. Everything surrounding it is crap. Purposely so. I've driven a Lamborghini Gallardo with the 5.2L V10, and it sounds lovely. It's actually not that smooth because it's a V10. This design is inherently prone to vibration. It has problems with primary balance, and it has an uneven firing order. A V10 has to have a V angle of 72 degrees to have an even firing order, and this V10 has a 90-degree angle without a split crank journal. Audi uses a balance shaft to counter the balance issues though. The Lexus LFA is the best balanced V10 ever made. The 72-degree angle used is perfect. I love the sound of most V10 engines, but on an engineering level, they have some serious challenges.

@@ejkk9513 Yea, I definitely figured that out the hard way. Breaking at both ends of the reservoir at once was pretty bizarre. The cooling systems rely on plastic couplings, not metal, in order to "Expand" properly under heavy loads. The worst part is, if you do end up using metal on one piece, it'll just add more pressure to the other plastic places. Which means you ideally have to replace all the joints with metal or you're stuck with using plastic still. Not to mention, aftermarket isn't the greatest so if you used metal you'd have to manufacture the parts yourself. Not sure if that would cause anymore failure points do to improper expansion of the system too. So, you're kind of stuck with plastic. The plastic does seem to work well as long as it's maintained properly and the pieces are all checked ahead of time for cracks and failure points due to long-term wear and tear however, so it's not like it wasn't engineered well. The design is fairly solid and kind of cool when you dig into it, but you are right though... the plastic is designed to fail long term. Don't get me wrong, you CAN bulletproof these engines/cars in the end. It just depends on how much you umm... "Love your car" per say XD.

Yep, enjoyed this one almost as much as the Miata teardowns

More like lack there of

@@charliep4680Exactly, less crap to break.

OR an LS 🔥😛

@@xtremeboost7 Also much less efficient. Lets not pretend like every sbc is a 500hp street machine when they came with 250 on a good day from the factory

@@charliep4680 i have old magazines that have articles showing just how good the small block Chevy v8 is: brake specific fuel consumption figures of 0.38. Very few modern engines can achieve this. Diesel engines can deliver better numbers (lower, down to 0.30), but high oxides of nitrogen pollution is the result. Not so with the highly efficient small block Chevy.

Best passive aggressive comment ever

Yeah, the people who will still have such (unnecessarily) complex engines in "historic" cars a couple decades into the future are going to be paying absolute fortunes for servicing...

All the crazy engineering for what - no help in passing upcoming emissions targets.

​​@@HenrySomeoneMeh, I mean that's somewhat true but not really. Service costs will go up, yes, but ICE cars worldwide won't be considered "historics" in such a short timeline, eventually EVs are going to reach a steady market equilibrium with ICE cars and by that time the benefits of EV transport on such a scale would likely have significantly cut emissions in an optimistic scenario, so why litigate away the remaining ICE cars or expect them to be so cost prohibitive (compared to any car) to own?

@@coliimusic I wasn't talking about ICE engines in general, but specific, high-end and very complex ones like this V10.

take a look at the older large piston engines before the jet turbine engine replaced them in aircraft

Hoooboy I almost bought a B5.5 Passat W8 new. Glad I set my sights lower and ended up with the 1.8T, but that W8 6-speed was a blast to drive.

@@geeniusatwrok w8's probably amazing until time for the belts...

2 kinds of audi/Volkswagen cars, broken, or losing value so fast they aren't worth fixing.

Believe it or not, these engines get repaired over here, they are to expensive to replace, so the vehicles get often scrapped and engines repaired to second hand owners

Ya, if we Americans do complex engine stuff that requires engine-out and/or transmission-off it's usually to cut corners and graft new tech onto old engines.

"Vag" engine is RIGHT...

3 cheers for pushrods

@@ramenbo 🍻 for cheers...

Imagine you had to work on one of these in a vehicle! Awful

Looks like it literally detonated. High energy failure indeed.

If people really had any idea what mechanically speaking was rolling down the road with 40+ tons behind it, they would drive more carefully and give trucks more space.

They should have saved rocket engineering for rockets. It is unnecessary complicated.

Thought the exact same thin😎

GM ecotecs we’re partially designed by Germans

Toyota did add injectors to the ports along with their direct injection. works well.

The biggest thing is people don’t realize that just because the car was 20k to buy used doesn’t mean the parts are gonna be for a 20k car. There still priced at the new 80k price.

Slant six would be boring..its about 30 pieces and none will be bad.

VAG has used dual injection on their European market cars for quite a while, likely even before Toyota. Obviously with US market being skewed towards lower price point, all we've got here was flashy big rims. Priorities;)

Yup. I agree

Timingchains on the Mercedes 220CDI engines are at the back too It is not that uncommon, why in that world they do it like that is a mystery thou..

BMW also put timing chains on the back end on some of their engines. The N47 diesel (used on numerous different models) is infamous for chewing up timing chains and destroying the engine at quite low miles, even if you caught it in time it is a big job to repair with multiple chains at the back.

Ford's 4.0

@@GodiHateOtakus Ford's SOHC 4.0 was an effort to modernize a pushrod engine and convert it to an overhead cam engine. So there's a jackshaft where the cam used to be, connecting the front half of the timing chain setup to the back. Maybe so the cylinder heads are still the same side-to-side? Idk. Terrible design, terrible idea. Also, based on the Cologne v6. A German engine. Lol

My dad sold his to a tweak when his s4s chains went...tweak assembled a sort of chain and pulley system in the apartment parking lot and had the chains replaced on his own through the night.

How does one money shift an auto

@@kyleshehadi4119drop it down 4 gears lol

I wonder if the owner realized this was a gonna, and just kept going as there was nothing to lose. I remember a lady pulling up to a country service station, and asking for help, it made a big bang and was running very rough. Inspection found a rod hanging out of the block. Advice to the lady, yeah try and drive home, nothing to loose, your going to need a new engine.

with cam cradle/plate explosions like this, unexpectedly, is why we wear eye protection and/or face shields kids 😂

First = The owner of these cars in germany have an better level of money ... Secound = The car mechanic for these performnce Audi / Lamorghini are skilled (plus 3 years standart car mechanic school . Every german car mechanic passed these 3 years car mechanic school 2 days a week and 3 day at the car garage) . BUT a car mechanic for these AUDI is adittional trained some days/week at a special AUDI school to service + repair these performance car. Third = I think the Audi (and no name garage) know that is is normal to build the engine out of the ... Even if he spend one day for these work plus one day to fit it under the engine compartment. For difficult work it is easy and he can do a better work. Remember the owner is person with higher incoming and is able (and will) pay a lot of money. The owner know these. These is a performance engine in an performance car for sales man. He will use the abillity to drive unimited speed level at these parts at the german Autobahn with no speed limit. And the owner is able to pay the premium 98 ROZ (normal he drive to shell with 100 ROZ or ARAL petrol station with 102 ROZ). The highest prize petrol is good enough for him. I think in US you can not get these quality petrol. In germany you can get these at ervery petrol stations and at Shell or ARAL petrol station these top level petrol. By the way thise is not a special raceing petrol. The owner is able to drive with these car 200 mph at german Autobahn. A lot of owner say = well 155 mph is enough for me. An Audi R8 V10 is a sport car. These engine you find in a bigger size Audi RS6. You drive with you wife and family shopping. Enough space for the shopping and the children. And use these car for your daily long distance was to your customer as a premium sales man for big companys. Service nightmare for the car mechanic = yes The owner know the amount of money and can afford it. The Audi garage know these and say ok we will sell these service nightmare. We have a skilled trained car mechanic with addition AUDI school training. If you are not a trained AUDI mechanic leave your fingers away. If you are not a Space ship mechanic you leave normally you fingers out of an space ship aswell. If you are only able to service a american V8 well and ok. No problem for me. By the way I never ever but my fingers in these Audi V10 or Mercedes perfomance engines (or BMW performance) because I dont like these engines. But if my boss send me to these special traing schools for these performance cars ... Well then I really like to work with these engines. My boss will buy all the nice tools for that car. Enough working place and enough time to work. And a computer with direct access to the car manufacturer plus telephone hotline to constuction engineers. Only fighter jets and Space crafts mechanics are better .... These car mechanic are toplevel trained ... If a low budget garage or an unskilled garage owner is the boss of the car mechanic ... well When I am a owner of a Audi V10 engine and I go to a Yugo garage ... 🙃

@@callishandy8133 well stated.

In 2003 Audi came out with the B6 S4 4.2l and I believe that engine was the first to have the timing chains in the back. I read that they did this because of packaging issues. This looks to be about the same setup. It's unfortunate they had to go this route because the 4.2l timing belt motor I read is supposedly a boom proof motor. I bought a S4 with a 4.2l in it. It had a new engine form Audi installed. The bill was over 30k for that new engine and install.

I don't believe that is correct. IIRC the Lambo and the R8 have the engine flipped backwards in the car so that the transmission sits in between the seats. This means that in the car, the timing chains are still up against the firewall.

​@@callishandy8133 Our (US) 93 octane fuel is 98 RON. That's about the highest octane we generally see at a mass-market gas station. Most states carry that, though some states sell 91 octane as their premium fuel.

I had the same thought, absolutely ridiculous

Nah, judging by that "This $25,000 Rolex Explorer Was Exposed to Seawater" video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsejoJZ4q7KbnYE.html) the innards of Rolex are somewhat neater ;-)

Indeed a work of art. Also as a mechanic once you learn how to work on these engines how to do the timing it’s like opening a new level of knowledge in your brain. Really sets you apart from other mechanics.

@@Angelo80907 _Indeed a work of art_ - yes, but then there's this German ironic saying "warum einfach wenn's auch kompliziert geht", or "why make [it] simple when you can make it complicated"... ;-)

@@MrKotBonifacy 🤣 damn show offs

They look happy, except the one on the end that had it’s face busted into pieces.

All German car engineers belong to the church of Rube Goldberg. I’ve always wondered is the needless complexity an engineer’s “flex” or is it an attempt to keep all the labor money with the dealers. Pull the engine or pull the trans to work on it in the car…and that would still suck all up under a lift and the transmission tunnel exhaust etc obscuring your view/access. WTF, I can’t think of a single good reason to put the timing chains on the back side of the engine unless it’s got to do with Quattros and engine mounting would be crazy forward/hood length suspension. Probably just answered my own question 🤦‍♂️🤣

Rube Goldberg came immediately to mind as he tore into this monstrosity. German engineering at its finest. Why keep it simple when it can be designed overly complicated to show how smart the engineers are?

Pew Pew Pew Pew Pewpewpewpewpewpew Pew Pew Lol!

Thats what it take to run 170 mph all day on the Autobahn.

For how long?

@@quicksilver462 do you live in Germany?

My 2021 Chevy Silverado 5.3 engine lasted 11,000 miles. Lifter failures and bent pushrods, Just saying. My Audi has 110,000 miles and purrs. Every major company has built a cluncker or two.

@@markhoward9355 My 2004 Silverado pushing 200k . Not bad for a $400 truck, but it is getting ugly.

@@alribee For sure, I love hearing of high mileage, long lasting trucks. Don't think the "rules" of yesteryear apply anymore. European vehicles are thought unreliable because they are overly complicated and computer controls. American vehicles are unreliable because they are built so freakin cheaply.

😅😅

I had a 2006 s6 ….the Audi garage gave up and couldn’t repair it… I hate Audis ..and will never buy another ever again.

Correction, it's a video for any imbicile who buys a vehicle and doesn't maintain it properly. Especially a high end performance vehicle. I work on these cars for a living. Many times more reliable than any modern American junk that doesn't have a bed attached to it. And ever since Covid, we can't seem to get trucks right either. If you're broke, and ignorant, buy a Toyota. If you like the higher end stuff, you better be capable of maintaining it, or paying someone to do it for you.

Lolz, I have a S4 B7 no worries... when your capable on the tools.

You will need to be good with the tools ha ha ha

I can attest the V8 4.2L variant is the best sounding V8 I’ve ever driven. It’s as if an American small block with anger issues went to college in Germany. They’re insanely good until they have any problems 😂

Given those engines make ~500hp at ~8,000rpm the detonation might have been immense!

I think the rod broke. If the piston came apart first, that wrist pin would've been flailing around and had much more damage to it.

@@alro2434 It could be too given the condition of the wrist pin, your right. That means the rod bolts let go looking at the condition of the rod & what's left of the bolts & after that the crank schreaded the parts in the destruction. I thought it was piston failure but thinking about it that could still be the case though looking at the rubbish design of them. The piston in my vehicle that failed had a design like these, no whole piston, just a half piston with skirts, well it was the skirt that broke off on mine which very nearly had the piston turn sideways in the bore, thankfully that didn't happen & only bore scoring happened. a rebore & new aftermarket pistons (whole ones) and she's still driving around 27 years later. Anyway there's a couple of theories.

I thought that too but it was fitted to an auto gearbox so it should no be able to be over reved, i am rooting for a rod failure given how skinny they are.

Rocker arm failure. They designed them with too small roller bearings that eventually fall out… carnage ensues.

Don’t worry I said them for him😂

Remember, he has small children....

as a knowlege: italian design joke _" get out of my way tells the rocker through the KRANK from mussolini air engeneering "_

xaxol eto peremoga?🐽🤣

I agree dude but unfortunately that would be over half of the population of the world!!!!!so many people buy these beautifully engineered vehicles and only take them to a garage when the break!! And not for servicing, I have been a mechanic 4 30 years and it still amazes me how badly people treat there vehicles and call them pieces of shit when they break down!!!! When they never have any maintenance done to them CRAZY

how to reduce the lifecycle of an engine ? build it whith aluminium > daimler 6-cylinder from 1,8 million miles to following well known word: _" we hope you enjoy the guarantee "_