How Do You Destroy A 4.0L Jeep Engine THIS BAD? Intentional? Neglect? Ill-Repair? I Am IMPRESSED!

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What the! A Jeep 4.0, in this condition? HOW! These engines are supposed to be bulletproof! However as we've seen on this channel, people can and will destroy everything including engines we deem indestructible.
The 4.0L is based on the old AMC 4.2 258ci, which was also a VERY good engine. The 4.0's suffer from some common issues mostly related to poor castings, but are overall regarded as one of the most reliable engines of all time. They are one of my favorites, but I still sell these engines for a reason. This particular core is from a late WJ, I believe a 2004 Grand Cherokee. These late 4.0's are probably the least reliable. I have never seen this kind of damage on such a low stress, low compression engine. How does this happen?
Why am I doing this? I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart, and part of our model is dismantling bad engines to salvage the good parts to resell. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those that do.
I really hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always I love all the comments, feedback and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one !
-Eric

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@buffmaster0001
@buffmaster0001 Жыл бұрын
"Can't start in the back. That's how you get an infection." I laughed WAY too hard on that one!
@dbsranchr
@dbsranchr Жыл бұрын
What video is this referencing? I’m waaayy behind lol.
@205rider8
@205rider8 Жыл бұрын
@@dbsranchr s*x
@dbsranchr
@dbsranchr Жыл бұрын
@@205rider8 oh shit…… I’m such a dumbass 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@billholder9665
@billholder9665 Жыл бұрын
@@dbsranchr took me a minute... not gonna lie.
@saltwater8915
@saltwater8915 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i had to stop, go back and replay ... it's a good thing this channel doesn't have many young viewers "Daddy why do you get an infection if you start in the back"
@austyndrums1993
@austyndrums1993 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact. This engine was designed by engineers from all the big three makes. AMC came around and they stuck this in about everything. When AMC disbanded Chrysler kept using the engine. It has one of the longest production life spans of any engine.
@BeepBeepParkie
@BeepBeepParkie 6 ай бұрын
It's based on the 258/ 4.2 l, you can use the crank and rods out of that to make a 4.5 l stroker in a 4.0l block
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 6 ай бұрын
@@BeepBeepParkieMore Fun: the AMC 6 began life as a Nash motor in the late 1940’s. The 7 main bearing bottom end is what gave it legendary durability.
@BobCummins
@BobCummins 5 ай бұрын
@@BeepBeepParkie, I did not know that. I wondered what the stroker was built out of. Thank you.
@danielhertzig9085
@danielhertzig9085 3 ай бұрын
American Motors loved this engine!
@twisted2291
@twisted2291 Жыл бұрын
Just did a 2004 XJ with a 4.0. It had two pistons that dropped their skirts. 279,000 miles. The customer replaced it with a reman. This is a common issue with the High Mileage 4.0s. What happens is as follows. It starts to overheat or run just a bit on the higher side of 220 degrees. The piston skirts crack or break off leading to it burning some oil. The oil soot covers the 02 sensor, and tricks it into thinks it is running rich. So the computer adds timing and lean out the fuel to get it within spec. Only to melt down the already damaged piston, and this is the end result.
@xinx-fn8973
@xinx-fn8973 Жыл бұрын
So it killed itself essentially
@jordantomblin2302
@jordantomblin2302 Жыл бұрын
So, technically speaking, the pre-Chrysler style injection might not have made something like this happen?
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb Жыл бұрын
A coated O2 sensor will produce a lower than normal voltage which makes the vehicle think it's running lean, the computer will add fuel so the vehicle will be running rich, not lean.
@tarungonneea4614
@tarungonneea4614 Жыл бұрын
Are you outside of the us? I thought the last model year of the Xj Cherokee in North America(except for Mexico) was 2001.
@kainhall
@kainhall Жыл бұрын
thats good to know..... when it got around 110F in NE montana this summer..... my 97 was running at about 217 (used OBD2 scanner) which is just a needle over straight up and down . she hit 227 pulling up "kittleson hill" on my 100 mile daily commute . no noises, oil burning, or death yet..... but i was REALLY worried about it turned off the AC, ran the heater.......knowing that number 6 was probably WAY over 227..... . i love my Heep..... its a POS.... but its got soul
@cacline72
@cacline72 Жыл бұрын
Finally a 4.0 teardown! And my god I've never seen that damage to a 4.0 in my life. I daily a 1995 Jeep Cherokee with 254K on it and it runs pretty nicely.
@mikethundercloud8097
@mikethundercloud8097 Жыл бұрын
we have perished already
@Jihadbearzwithgunz
@Jihadbearzwithgunz Жыл бұрын
When I was a teen my mom had an 1987 AMC jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 and it had over 300k on it the trans had been rebuilt but motor was unopened besides remain seal and valve covers along with intake and exhaust manifold being redone. Thing was reliable only issue we ever had with it was a upper radiator hose blowing while we're were on the road used a knife cut the bad section out put water in it till we got home and it was good.
@vasilivladivostok1136
@vasilivladivostok1136 Жыл бұрын
behold, a god that bled
@DJDinaggio
@DJDinaggio Жыл бұрын
It had to be neglect. I sold my '92 XJ six years ago with 260k miles on the odometer and it still ran like a raped ape.
@robertreichel1984
@robertreichel1984 Жыл бұрын
So, so much like a slant six. Wow
@robinbaass1825
@robinbaass1825 Жыл бұрын
Good to see an uncomplicated old style basic engine that anyone could work on without a shop full of electronic gadgetry and specialist tools..
@grampabadger
@grampabadger Жыл бұрын
Not too unlike the old Chevy 232 inline 6. I never liked the timing gears on those, though.
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover Жыл бұрын
Wish is was still like that.
@Mr.EricMBlack
@Mr.EricMBlack Жыл бұрын
Got a 2001 Cherokee with 263,000 miles original motor daily driver rig. Impressive to see what abuse these motors can take til they let go.
@jeandunow7794
@jeandunow7794 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine going in for a physical exam and your doctor making the same noises as Eric does when he examines this engine block?!?! (Hmmm....maybe it wouldn't be that funny after all. 😱)
@reubensandwich9249
@reubensandwich9249 Жыл бұрын
I got flashbacks from a dentist visit watching that.
@Budrob998
@Budrob998 Жыл бұрын
What your doc don’t?
@liver.flush.maestro
@liver.flush.maestro Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣!!!
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine going to the proctologist and him making an ATM joke like he did.
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of a surgeon musing to himself "Hmmmm-hmmmm. Looks good. That's good. Oh, *that's* not supposed to be there!" Actually, considering the context (that 4.0 was very thoroughly deceased) probably an ME.
@rb89509
@rb89509 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 XJ and it has been rattling for eight years, so bad I tell people that it's a Cummins swap. I paid a mechanic to drop the oil pan and take a peek. He couldn't find any loose so he buttoned it up and said to just ignore the rattle and keep driving it. That was eight years ago.
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
Good chance that rattle is the exhaust manifold. When they crack (and they all crack), it'll rattle like a diesel.
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 Жыл бұрын
Rocker arms
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u Жыл бұрын
I like the 4.0 because of it's AMC lineage. But those cracks in the head you saw are common on certain years, and that's Chrysler's fault, because they redesigned the head. After a couple of years, they saw the common failure pattern, and came out with yet another redesign that fixed the cracking problem.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 Жыл бұрын
The 258 cracked heads when overheated.
@stevelacker358
@stevelacker358 Жыл бұрын
The most crack-prone heads are just from the start of the distributorless ignition until late 2000. The head casting with the improvement has the letters TUPY cast under the valve cover, but it’s still not quite as good as the 1999 head. IMO, 1999 is the single best year of the 4.0. It has all the strengthening and improvements to the crank and block that Chrysler made over the early kinda flexible AMC design (including the main cap spine),still has the tubular header, has the improved intake manifold, has the best ECM programming, but doesn’t have the issues that came with the head when it was redesigned for the coil rail mounting needed for DIS.
@v12alpine
@v12alpine Жыл бұрын
@@stevelacker358 +1 the '99 was the best year with thrust plate cam, horseshoe intake and OG distributor. 96-99 OBD2 is my favorite years.
@normanjansen1663
@normanjansen1663 Жыл бұрын
Too bad these engineers should leave good enough alone
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
Best part about 97-99 is they don't have any of the advanced emissions Jeep used to try and eek out more lifetime. Just the one O2 sensor, single bank of six exhaust (which will always crack), distributor, so so so easy to work one. You can do the entire ignition (plugs, wires, cap, etc) for a third of the cost of coil packs.
@mattbrown5511
@mattbrown5511 Жыл бұрын
I've seen that kind of damage in 4.0L in-line 6 before. The 2 main reasons are 1) Prolonged high revving from trying to get unstuck in deep mud, or 2) very steep angles during rock crawling. I have owned many Jeep (Chrysler models) over the last 35+ years. Being involved with off-roading clubs has given me experience with the typical failures for people pushing their vehicles to the failure point.
@ATLOffroad
@ATLOffroad Жыл бұрын
I owned a 97 Cherokee with the 4.0L. After 212k miles the engine still ran strong. Like you said, everything around the body was falling apart or broken, but the engine always started up.
@Jcsthird
@Jcsthird 11 ай бұрын
I had a 1996. Great drivetrain but the rest of the Chrysler stuff will fall apart around it.
@streetx1602
@streetx1602 7 ай бұрын
my rubicon stuff is starting to get there as well🤣
@arnoldm889
@arnoldm889 Жыл бұрын
My brother had one of these in a jeep that had over 200k. It had a cracked radiator so he'd have to refill it. Sometimes he would drive longer than 30 minutes without coolant and the temp pegged on H and when he got home it would be bone dry. Drove like this for a few months. He had it for a year more and sold it to the neighbor who had it for years. Have to work hard to kill a 4.0
@ericwalstrand3512
@ericwalstrand3512 Жыл бұрын
I had it in the Jeep Commanche and Cherokee. They had some getup and go in them
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc Жыл бұрын
I've currently have 4 from 91-05 one of unknown year in my 90XJ it was replaced twice in the past warranty replacement first the second was due to bad replacement oil pump. Solid engines with simple upkeep on oil, coolant and plugs
@monkeyman122009
@monkeyman122009 10 ай бұрын
It's insane what these 4 liters can take
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 10 ай бұрын
Your brother is an a-hole. Driving a half hour with no coolant, wtf.
@Dis-Emboweled
@Dis-Emboweled Жыл бұрын
The 4.0 "AMC" and Furrrrd's 4.9 300 straight 6 are both legendary in similar ways. I had a '81 Bronco with the 300 and a manual 3-speed ( with overdrive) that was one of my favorite trucks ever! 300,000 miles on that truck. Too many things went wrong too quickly on the Bronco so I sold it as a parts truck. The 4x4 still got me anywhere I needed to the very end. 🏁
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 Жыл бұрын
I daily a 1984 F150 with a 300... very durable engine indeed. Rebuilt it back in 2020 due to bad rings/bores (lots of blowby); despite that, it was still running somewhat decently. The rebuild was its reward for getting me though a long trip I didn't expect to drive it on... well earned!
@ojbarberena7090
@ojbarberena7090 Жыл бұрын
That Ford 4.9 is a great engine.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
I've been hounding Eric to get his hands on a 300 for a teardown but they're so fucking reliable that cores never show up haha. I have an 85 and a 95 F150, both with that engine, both with manuals. Love 'em both.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Жыл бұрын
@@TestECull We used to run F-150s with the I6 300. Mostly highway, with some local parts running. Manual transmissions. We never had to replace an engine, and some of them had well over 300,000 miles. They got three times the mileage of the oldest truck we had with a 460 under the hood. That 460 was bomb-proof, too.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
@@dougrobinson8602 Best OHV engine Ford ever sold. Pulls like a 302 on a third less gas with a life expectancy measured in decades because odometers dont go high enough 🤣🤘
@Vegheadshow
@Vegheadshow Жыл бұрын
After just tearing a toilet apart going spelunking for my headphones, I needed to see someone else tear something else down and get gross.
@lilsmoot4488
@lilsmoot4488 Жыл бұрын
Spelunking is an underrated word. We as a society should use it more.
@ianriggs
@ianriggs Жыл бұрын
@@lilsmoot4488 I have never heard that word in my life and I am not sheltered grammar wise. Learn something new every day lol
@lilsmoot4488
@lilsmoot4488 Жыл бұрын
@@ianriggs indeed
@miztatone918
@miztatone918 Жыл бұрын
I think 🤔... I think 🤔 I'd just have bought a new pair and flushed them 😂
@miztatone918
@miztatone918 Жыл бұрын
@@ianriggs isn't spelunking just another word for cave exploration
@shauncollins2017
@shauncollins2017 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 1996 Grand Cherokee with 267,000 miles on it. It was my first Jeep. It had a slight tapping coming from Cylinder #6. Started using T4 10/40 in it and it quieted it substantially. Drove it till about 301,000 miles and then it developed a really loud chatter. Still drove it another 2,000 miles that way till I finally bought another vehicle. I got curious and dropped the oil pan. The piston skirt for cylinder #6 was laying in the pan. Engine still ran and had good compression. Just piston #6 was chattering around in the cylinder.
@chuckycheese84
@chuckycheese84 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see the 4.0 inline 6. They are so hard to find as cores. One of the best engines ever made. Would still love to see a GM 3800 series engine on the channel, or a 3.5L V6 from the 93-97 Intrepids/Concords
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Жыл бұрын
I second the 3.8. It's one of the most reliable engines ever built if taken care of. Incredible highway mileage as well.
@jonharris794
@jonharris794 Жыл бұрын
@@dougrobinson8602 Yes, 3.8 or 231.
@tylerelam6222
@tylerelam6222 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had both the 3800 is rock solid the mopar 3.5 at the time had a very weak bottom end and I ended up spinning a bearing
@Hiei2k7
@Hiei2k7 Жыл бұрын
My family had both of those. The 3800 Vortec was BULLET. PROOF. The 3.5 was fine enough, but the transmission that rode behind it was garbage. Lost reverse out of it at 36k miles.
@lastotallyawesomebleach204
@lastotallyawesomebleach204 Жыл бұрын
@@dougrobinson8602 the Achilles heel on the later 3800 engines was the plastic intake plenum, which was notorious for getting brittle and cracking, which would dump coolant into the engine. If you buy any car with one of those engines, make sure you replace that part right away.
@EmbraceTheSuck
@EmbraceTheSuck Жыл бұрын
The other reason they were so popular was the ability to stroke them with a good set of 4.2 piston, rods and crank. That’s a good way to get power.
@gavinrivera9929
@gavinrivera9929 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was going to do to my 01 WJ but budget ran short and I couldn’t 😢. 4.2 crank and rods and have you a strong stroker engine.
@davideldridge3686
@davideldridge3686 11 ай бұрын
Which Is why I can't find Remaned cranks for my actual 4.2. 😛🙄
@timloveday1199
@timloveday1199 7 ай бұрын
I have an extra 4.2 crank the is already .010/.010. It needs polishing badly though.
@MeDicen_Rocha
@MeDicen_Rocha Жыл бұрын
For a piston skirt failure, that one actually seems pretty tame. Usually the piston comes apart and the wrist pin hammers into the block until it either makes an inspection port or it seizes.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was VERY surprising the wrist pin didn't go sailing and lock the engine up.
@TheCoon1975
@TheCoon1975 Жыл бұрын
"Makes an inspection port" lol that's a hilarious way to look at it.
@GamerMomentsToo
@GamerMomentsToo Жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t
@MeDicen_Rocha
@MeDicen_Rocha Жыл бұрын
@BB Sky it doesnt, which is exactly the problem. The piston around the wrist pin comes apart, and the rod starts hammering it into the sides of the bore until either the engine gets an inspection port, the rod lets go or the engine seizes.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Жыл бұрын
@BB Sky, pins are pressed in by heating the rod. They can become worn over time and walk themselves out.
@scottduthie2912
@scottduthie2912 6 ай бұрын
The cylinder head definitely feels like 89 lbs when you are leaning over the front of the jeep or the fender to remove it and even more when you are putting it back on
@badkarma425
@badkarma425 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 1946 cj2a and it's still running the original 4cylinder GoDevil engine. Built to last!
@bennyd8471
@bennyd8471 Жыл бұрын
Had a 99tj with about 90k on it break a skirt on the piston on cyl 6. Thought it was a rod knock at first. Pulled it and tore it down. Found the rod on cyl 4 visually bent as well. Never hydrolocked it. Figured I had it apart so go big or go home. Went .030" over, stroked it with a 4.2L crank, Comp Cams camshaft, bigger injectors amongst exhaust and others. I was very happy with the build!
@stan7158
@stan7158 Жыл бұрын
There is a clear crack in the cylinder head, between #2 and #3 rocker arms. It can be seen just by removing the oil fill cap and looking in the valve cover. I was a jeep tech in the early 00s, this was very common on 98-03 cylinder heads. I replaced hundreds under warranty.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Жыл бұрын
13 years as a flat-rate mechanic, owned 7 XJs (have one with nearly 300k miles), and I have NEVER seen this level of damage to a 4.0l.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired mechanic of over 30yrs. and current 4.0L owner and I've replaced over a dozen exploded 4.0L in my career. Leave them stock and drive them gently or they Will break. That's the advise I've learned to give.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMNATION907, huh, driven the hell out of my current XJ with a 4.0l, and it's at 280k miles without a single issue. Where the 4.0l runs into issues are the late 1996-2006 (2001 for the XJ). These engines have some know issues with severe overheating from a flawed head design and piston skirt failures causing engine failure.
@JohnGarcia-ii8lb
@JohnGarcia-ii8lb 10 ай бұрын
Seems to be that the early 4.0s are stronger then the later ones idk why or how , own and owned alot seem damage at later model ones
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnGarcia-ii8lb, 1997-2004 (last year of the 4.0l) is known to have weaker piston skirts... even then, I haven't seen one experience this level of destruction.
@madebydade305ify
@madebydade305ify 9 ай бұрын
​@@johndeeregreen4592how good are the 2.5?
@MrGGPRI
@MrGGPRI Жыл бұрын
A mechanic friend told me a story about one of his customers that had towed a Cherokee using a front axle type dolly for about 50 miles and then remembered that he had forgot to take the trans out of low gear and then found the engine wouldn't start. He pulled the head and ALL pistons were missing- just con rods and wrist pins were left...
@spasticslug2932
@spasticslug2932 Жыл бұрын
Calling BS on that story. If it was an automatic, the engine wouldn't turn. If it was a manual, he'd been dragging the wheels.
@GMbowtie350
@GMbowtie350 Жыл бұрын
@@spasticslug2932 Yeah, you’d ruin the transmission and that’s about it. The only possible way that story would hold water was if it was a straight shift left in 5th gear, and even then it’s not gonna do what he said it would, especially just after 50 miles.
@TireSlayer55
@TireSlayer55 Жыл бұрын
BS… unless it had no serpentine belt on, if the crank was turning the water pump would be turning, if the engine got warm enough the thermostat would open and the radiator would cool the engine just the same as if it was running. But more than likely it would just drag the rear wheels…
@MrGGPRI
@MrGGPRI 8 ай бұрын
it happened, I know the mechanic that replaced the engine.
@90sdrift
@90sdrift Жыл бұрын
Your videos keep getting better and better! I love watching you channel, its relaxing and entertaining. Always looking forward to seeing your new tear-downs and project updates. Your commentary is my favorite part lol. Merry Christmas man!
@Lammergeier350
@Lammergeier350 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Another one off the list! This engine is, of course, one of the most durable and torquiest motors available from the late seventies through the early aughts. The inherent primary and secondary balance of the straight six aside, just the combination of torque, ease of maintenance, and simplicity all made it the absolute pinnacle of the Wrangler powerhouse. This engine is still the best 6 cylinder that has ever been in a Chrysler product (slant six aside), and I have a couple customers that have their Grand Cherokees and wranglers up past 300K. Having to drop the 242 and the 318 from their lineup has left FCA continuing to fight for a 6 or 8 cylinder gas engine of any sort of quality, a fight that to this day has not been won. Yes, I know what I said. The Gen 3 hemi is barely worth its weight as a boat anchor. Of course you're not going to have a problem with the dipstick tube - it's not on a GM product. Engine Requests: Ford: 300 Inline Six, Windsor, FE, 1.0 EcoBoost, 1.4 EcoBoost, 5.2 Voodoo, 6.7 PowerStroke General Motors: 3100/3400/3800 Olds, LUW/LWE 1.8l i4, L5P Duramax Chrysler: Slant Six, MORE HEMIS, 1.4L FIRE, 3.3/3.8, 318/360 Honda: B Series, D Series, K Series Toyota: 1GZ-FE, 1ZZ or 2ZZ Subaru: FJ series, EZ30/36 Other: DT466 Old School Unicorns: GM 702 Twin-Six, Oldsmobile 5.7 Diesel, LT5 Lotus (C4 ZR1) Modern Unicorns: Toyota 1LR-GUE, Chevrolet Gemini, 7.3 Godzilla
@chuckz8053
@chuckz8053 Жыл бұрын
Well now we know.
@Lammergeier350
@Lammergeier350 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckz8053 And knowing is half the battle. The other half? Extreme violence.
@Anarchy522XD
@Anarchy522XD Жыл бұрын
He has an EZ36 on the shelf/rack to his left our right when he shows the other 4.0 on the ground. I know it's a 36 because the intake runners are huge. I doubt he will take it apart but it'd be nice. Those EZ are not easy to disassemble. Even worse to get together.
@GalenlevyPhoto
@GalenlevyPhoto Жыл бұрын
Honda F20/22. I wanna see how those 9000 rpm motors tick. :)
@AandWProductions
@AandWProductions Жыл бұрын
And Olds 5.7 diesel would be cool to see, but they're rare. An LT5 is rarer yet. That was the best DOHC GM ever built and how they got the Northstar from it is beyond me.
@jeromedraad5810
@jeromedraad5810 Жыл бұрын
Had the same 4L in a jeep Wrangler in the shop this past year, thing had completely seized, and when we pulled the pan there was mud in it. When asked, the owner denied having driven it in water or anything. We sent it away for a complete revision along with boring it out into a 4.6L. It now makes 300 hp and 600 Nm of torque.😁 Was quite a fun project. Had to modify and rebuild the entire jeep as it wasnt roadworthy anymore. One hell of a project for me and another mechanic, but a lot of fun
@alanpecherer5705
@alanpecherer5705 Жыл бұрын
You did an excellent job showing the damage; very well done video!
@CableGula
@CableGula Жыл бұрын
Had a 95 GC with the 4.0 with 325k when I sold it. Only problem I ever had with was the water pumps shreading every 20-30k miles. I got very good at that routine maintenace.
@TheStiver
@TheStiver Жыл бұрын
Yes, Finally!!! My favorite engine too. In fact, I'm dailying my 04 WJ at the moment because well, it's the only thing I own that doesn't ever break. From what I remember, somewhere around 2000-2002 were the problem years with cylinder heads cracking, at least for the WJ. By around 03 and definitely for all 04's have a different head (denoted by the "TUPY" stamping under the oil fill cap) that isn't prone to cracking. I'm 32 and I expect my 4.0 to outlive me!
@AbbStar1989
@AbbStar1989 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, I really enjoy your channel. I love taking things apart and really bad at putting them back together. Thank you.
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
Since that engine development was started in 1956 by Nash, then it was made by Hudson, then made by Rambler, then made AMC, then made by Chrysler for Jeep… After 50+ years, they better have figured out how to make it work right!
@nuttfarmgarage6434
@nuttfarmgarage6434 Жыл бұрын
The 4.0 actually was based on the 232 first put in 1965 model year AMC’s, and shares nothing with the earlier 6 cylinder engine.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt Жыл бұрын
@@nuttfarmgarage6434 Just to pick a nit, according to Wiki the new 232 was introduced in May of 1964.
@brandonupchurch7628
@brandonupchurch7628 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffDeWitt What part of 1965 model year do you not understand?
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
@@nuttfarmgarage6434 the early engine was changed repeatedly to make improvements. Just 'cause new parts don't fit old junk doesn't mean the whole thing is different. One step leads to the next, and you can't get to the top without climbing the steps.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt Жыл бұрын
@@brandonupchurch7628 Last I looked 1964 was before 1965. The 232 was introduced in the special edition 1964 Rambler Typhoon. The article in Wiki even has a picture of the car and the license plate says "1964".
@adamk203
@adamk203 Жыл бұрын
Don't trash that block! It may be suitable for an overbore as long as there are no cracks in it. Someone might be interested in buying it for a stoker build.
@UpanovrOffroad
@UpanovrOffroad Жыл бұрын
That was some impressive damage! Great video as usual. There’s a couple 4.0’s in my driveway.
@stephenvale2624
@stephenvale2624 Жыл бұрын
As always, educational and fun! Thank you!!!
@Beethoven2949
@Beethoven2949 Жыл бұрын
UK mechanic here, I absolutely love the channel, I'm addicted. You do a lot of complicated big blocks I would love if you could do some small European engines like some small inline 4 cylinders as that's mainly what we drive over here and their an absolute breeze to teardown and rebuild 😊
@jeffpolakiewicz2277
@jeffpolakiewicz2277 Жыл бұрын
There was a little known issue with water pumps. The inline sixes had 2 water pumps. V grove turned one way. Serpentine turned opposite. They could easily be switched and the coolant would not circulate properly causing meltdown of the center two pistons.
@johncarter1137
@johncarter1137 Жыл бұрын
My son bought a 2004 Grand Cherokee with the 4.0 and drove the hang out of it. I got it and drove the hang out of it then gave it back to my son, and he drove the hang out of it then gave it to his father-in-law, and now he's driving the hang out of it. The computer is starting to go away, but the engine's been solid.
@dopeman420
@dopeman420 Жыл бұрын
Those are known for pcm rot.
@hayzersolar
@hayzersolar Жыл бұрын
thanks you for doing this awesome tear down. im a xj guy and love these engines.
@adrievankempen2054
@adrievankempen2054 5 ай бұрын
How good you show everything and speed up the simple things, learn very much, thank you so much!!
@TurbineFlyer
@TurbineFlyer Жыл бұрын
Love my 95' 4.0! It's just broken in at 205k miles. I replaced the water pump and thermostat on my own. Pretty easy to work on
@markdavis8888
@markdavis8888 Жыл бұрын
Sold mine after 350,000 miles and it still ran great. It was the family adventure vehicle. Heavy loads and back country roads were no problem for our 1995 sport. It did have a cracked exhaust and after my son used it two of the engine mount studs were cracked. I welded the engine mount back to the studs and it was good to go.
@Lawdog652
@Lawdog652 Жыл бұрын
Hey, you answered my question about where the milage was stored on the Corvette. You are amazing!! I love to learn and you are great at educating.
@Slaktrax
@Slaktrax Жыл бұрын
Nice one Eric, your tear down videos are always worth following. HAPPY XMAS to you and your tribe. 🎉🎊🎉✌
@MrOnemanop
@MrOnemanop Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you speed through repeated bolt removal once the initial fastener is dealt with like on heads and rockers. Very enjoyable and informative stuff!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 9 ай бұрын
one spark plug that's all you really need is one cylinder to fire for the engine to run🤣
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Thanks for all the humor and jokes throughout all these tear downs and projects! You are like an auto coroner on the channel, but you also save a lot of cars from the salvage yards. You should be called the car doctor for all the autopsies and projects. Keep up the great work!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 9 ай бұрын
this just goes to show you can even destroy a spicy 4.0 engine if you try hard enough🤣
@rodleypumpkins4174
@rodleypumpkins4174 Жыл бұрын
Your fast forward sounds are very satisfying. Specially when your tq somthing down and you Hear the clicks. 😮
@wildredness8345
@wildredness8345 Жыл бұрын
Somebody sponsor this mans supply of brake clean! Love the teardowns keep it up.
@richwielechowski5191
@richwielechowski5191 Жыл бұрын
Eric, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thanks for taking us along with you this past year. I’ve enjoyed your videos, your humor and presentation style!
@sidneysanders5726
@sidneysanders5726 Жыл бұрын
That version of the 4.0L was used in the 2000-2006 jeep wrangler, and the 1999-2004 grand cherokee, I can tell by looking at the water pump and the accessory drive
@michaeljucius9509
@michaeljucius9509 Жыл бұрын
Got a 97 with an old trw 5.0l stroker kit and a hesco aluminum head. Threw on an m90 blower and a pacesetter header blowing through a dual 2 3/4 exhaust. Sounds awesome and just will not die!
@videocre1
@videocre1 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos, been watching for about a year now and I always look forward to when you upload. I’m not one to make requests usually but if you happen upon a Rover V8 4.0 or 4.6 from the P38s and Discovery’s, I’d love to see it. Keep up the good work.
@edwardbelcher8612
@edwardbelcher8612 Жыл бұрын
love the Jeep 4.0 and the Ford 300 6 cylinder engines
@deanlaman3844
@deanlaman3844 Жыл бұрын
Please find a blown up 3800 series pre 2004. I want to see how someone can kill a very reliable engine
@Cartier_specialist
@Cartier_specialist Жыл бұрын
I 2nd that and I'm curious too.
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 Жыл бұрын
.....supercharged!
@dougpendleton1266
@dougpendleton1266 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, good job! Have you considered doing a series on putting some back together?
@muddy-one
@muddy-one Жыл бұрын
👍 thanks for making me feel better about my 4.0 with 319k miles on it! It's had a oil leak on the last 2 cylinders coming out the head gasket for about 60k miles. It's always been on my "I'll get around to it..." list.
@AJ67901
@AJ67901 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to Saturday evening so I can see what you're going to tear down! Thank you from an armchair mechanic!
@rodneymiddleton9624
@rodneymiddleton9624 Жыл бұрын
I've repaired quite a few of those with piston skirt failure. Overheating doesn't help things either. They start making a thunking noise like tapping on a tin can at idle when they start failing. Those can be repaired with a set of pistons and rings. I always opted to do the timing chain and bearings. They literally run for ever if you catch it early. The last one I did was a 2001. Thanks!
@FD-dh2fu
@FD-dh2fu 7 ай бұрын
Wow. Amazing detail. Great job. I am now subscribed.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb Жыл бұрын
Good save with that drain pan!
@cablenowadays6586
@cablenowadays6586 Жыл бұрын
That block would be good for a over bore and then a stroker setup.
@FeetusMcCarland
@FeetusMcCarland Жыл бұрын
Waste of time
@megason2
@megason2 Жыл бұрын
I SAW A CRACK on the deck of the block
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Жыл бұрын
All that for max 200hp
@mdubz101
@mdubz101 Жыл бұрын
@@alexstromberg7696 add boost!
@TireSlayer55
@TireSlayer55 Жыл бұрын
@@alexstromberg7696 Ummm no. It makes about 200hp stock and stokers can make 300+ hp. Why do some people always feel the need to comment on things they know literally nothing about?
@O4erful
@O4erful Жыл бұрын
Man as much as I watch these.. I always laugh when you throw away the "good" water pumps.
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
In this case, they're $34 at NAPA. No point in keeping it no matter how good it looks.
@billchildress9756
@billchildress9756 Жыл бұрын
EBAY!
@darrylmelnyk8182
@darrylmelnyk8182 Жыл бұрын
had one and loved it. great vid
@minnystretch
@minnystretch Жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally doing one
@benjamynbrady3443
@benjamynbrady3443 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a jump scare looking in those manifold openings
@ericreimer6627
@ericreimer6627 Жыл бұрын
Since the cylinder head cracks line up with the most damaged pistons, I'll guess coolant was getting into those cylinders causing detonation, which leads to the torched pistons. I'm impressed the pistons didn't come apart with how loose they were on the wrist pins!
@colin5064
@colin5064 Жыл бұрын
l would agree with your thoughts on the damage cause
@wabi_sabi_vida
@wabi_sabi_vida Жыл бұрын
Thats the beauty of momentum. It broke just right.
@monkeyman122009
@monkeyman122009 10 ай бұрын
Bet the engine still ran too
@curiousottman
@curiousottman 9 ай бұрын
When you rotated the engine and all of the tappets fell out it brought back fond memories of my 83 CJ7 and it’s lifter problems. Still runs great today.
@christ2290
@christ2290 Жыл бұрын
"Can't start in the back, that's how you get an infection" LOL man, I laughed sooooo hard
@cablenowadays6586
@cablenowadays6586 Жыл бұрын
Yes finally. I’ve been wanting to see one of these bad boys for a while
@jdracer111
@jdracer111 Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that inline engines are better than V4 or V6s. Just my opinion.
@peterkruse788
@peterkruse788 10 ай бұрын
Love your tear downs ! Great shows
@Turbocookie400
@Turbocookie400 Жыл бұрын
Great catch on the pan!
@azoffroad234
@azoffroad234 Жыл бұрын
The exhaust manifold isn't difficult unless you own a Cherokee lmao 🤣 that was probably the most time consuming repair i've had to do to mine lol
@mphilleo
@mphilleo Жыл бұрын
You magnificent madman, you finally got one for us! I've owned many Jeeps with the 4.0, XJs and ZJs both, so this is going to be fun. Besides piston skirts and the TUPY heads, these were solid. Although the cooling system was rather inadequate in the XJ, application. You have to ON TOP of cooling system maintenance on those. ZJs were a clean sheet design, so the 4.0 was integrated correctly in those from the get go.
@lustfulvengance
@lustfulvengance Жыл бұрын
What causes the Piston skirts to break on these? I've seen it a lot but I've never been able to understand what really causes it 🤔🤔
@dopeman420
@dopeman420 Жыл бұрын
My 02 wj never gets hot, has 220k on it and I drive it up north n back 400 miles both ways in extreme heat and stop and go interstate congestion. Never runs hot, always on top of oil changes I do myself with pennzoil and Fram filters everyone hates for some reason. I've ran Fram my whole life never had an issue, I also use Lucas oil treatment.
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
I've found on my XJ, that you just replace the entire cooling system every 4-5 years. There's two Achilles Heels: 1) the viscous fan clutch wears out 2) the radiator fills up with sediment. As long as you shotgun the whole thing, and give it a good flush, it's really no problem.
@mphilleo
@mphilleo Жыл бұрын
@@lustfulvengance I don't have a specific answer, but most people agree it's a materials/design issue (dimensions of the skirt). It also affected the 4.2 inline 6, the 4.0s predecessor. My understanding is that it officially only affected about 6% of all units, although reality could be different. When you consider literally millions of these were produced, 6% or more is a decent figure.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt Жыл бұрын
@@litz13 I think the sediment thing is due to mixing coolant. I've had it in my XJ, but since the last time I replaced the radiator and gave the whole system a good flushing I've stuck with plain, old fashioned green coolant and stayed away from the universal stuff. My 4.0 runs nice and cool, even in the summer with the AC on.
@ladonnaghareeb4609
@ladonnaghareeb4609 Жыл бұрын
Great catch with the oil catch pan. Love your videos, and commentary LOL
@freday2005
@freday2005 8 ай бұрын
The later 4.0L engine built between 1999 and about 2002 used a head casting #0331 and was prone to cracking between the 3rd and 4th cylinder due to the exhaust port redesign to meet emissions. This same head casting #0331 was redesigned and they added a TUPY casting mark on the surface of the head just under the oil fill cap. The head with the TUPY marking was corrected to prevent this cracking. The #7120 casting between about 1996 and 1999 I believe is the best for performance as it was less restricted before the emissions redesign.
@Wandering_Horse
@Wandering_Horse Жыл бұрын
Classic case of an over heating engine and the driver just saying "F' it, going for broke and going run this heap till it seizes!" I bet that baby sounded quite delightful running down the road with pistons screaming going into Chernobyl meltdown mode and I bet good money it smelled truly delicious, truly a worthy honorable mention meltdown. Thanks for sharing, glad I found your channel.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 Жыл бұрын
Yup! It was probably a great running engine until they cooked it.
@shango066
@shango066 Жыл бұрын
Those Valvoline oil filters don't have a bypass valve, seen them plug up and cause codes or destroy engines several times
@soho71
@soho71 Жыл бұрын
Great tear down, Merry Christmas!
@michaelwilkening8542
@michaelwilkening8542 11 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with the early exhaust manifolds. I would be replacing at least one a week at the Midas shop I worked at. The replacement ones had a small flex section on the number 1 and 6 pipe to prevent a recurrence.
@destructionfun2
@destructionfun2 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, love the video, would you ever do a Big Block Molar teardown? Would love to see a 440 or an old AMC 360.
@brianferus9292
@brianferus9292 Жыл бұрын
You might need a dentist for that tear down.
@hirisk761
@hirisk761 Жыл бұрын
Eric did a Chevy 454 teardown a few months back
@donaldatkinson7937
@donaldatkinson7937 Жыл бұрын
My brother had a box style Cherokee, with the high output, I think they called it, it had over 300,000 and ran like new! You couldn't kill it, he traded it in on a new car.
@mongo228
@mongo228 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing the 4.0L ... I have an 80 CJ with the 258. Never seen a melted piston like that in a Jeep I6!
@rodgood
@rodgood Жыл бұрын
In the old days people used to shut of their engines when they got hot . nowadays they just keep driving till they, can"t .
@parisachilles2682
@parisachilles2682 Жыл бұрын
As always, excellent video with witty commentary. Thanks.
@KubanKevin
@KubanKevin Жыл бұрын
Greatest engine AMC produced (RIP) and one of the greatest engines of all time.
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын
That dipstick removal really makes this engine a contender for the GOAT
@powcod7455
@powcod7455 Жыл бұрын
Finally! I'm glad you finally made a video on this engine. The 4.0L is the only good thing about my jeep and it still isn't perfect. I just read the description and my uncle has a 2004 WJ grand cherokee with over 350k miles it takes literally a minute of cranking but it still starts and runs
@nick39
@nick39 26 күн бұрын
My favorite part of your videos is where you analyze a part… say “It’s pretty good. We can use it as a spare or back up.” Then , toss it into the junk pile. I don’t know if I’m the none who gets your sense of humor, but I love it!!😂😂 Love your videos!
@TheProjectHelpDesk
@TheProjectHelpDesk Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mind seeing what the burned Vette engine looked like up close. Even if you don't wind up tearing it down.
@steinwaymodelb
@steinwaymodelb Жыл бұрын
First 2 causes that jump to the top of the list: 1. Hydrolocking 2. Overheating
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 Жыл бұрын
Clearly it was over heated. Bad 🔥
@rvmagnum5415
@rvmagnum5415 8 ай бұрын
Im new to your chanel, enjoying everyone of your videos. I loved rebuilding engines in my younger days and may rebuild my 4.7 in my 2000 jeep wj.
@Tommy-Tucker
@Tommy-Tucker 5 ай бұрын
Love your commentary as you tear down the motors , entertaining vocabulary 😅. Keep it going
@joshjohnson6163
@joshjohnson6163 Жыл бұрын
Man that 4.0 was ridden hard and put away wet by the previous owner.
@therealdojj
@therealdojj Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the simplicity of rocket surgery 🤣
@frasiec
@frasiec Жыл бұрын
And brain science 😂
@johnburgess4941
@johnburgess4941 Жыл бұрын
Very good video! Thank you once again for GREAT content!!
@twinturbotaj
@twinturbotaj Жыл бұрын
One time I pulled apart a 4.0 from like a '92 Comanche and it had been run at least 60 miles distance with pieces of a broken valve riding bouncing around inside a cylinder. Top of the piston all scarred up and walls not perfect. I ground the top of the piston with a dremel tool, threw on the rebuilt cyl head, and it ran perfect for over 10K miles until I sold her.
@ericneeds1512
@ericneeds1512 Жыл бұрын
Which is more ... bulletproof, in your opinion. 4.0 L Jeep or 225 CI Slant Six ? Have you torn one of these down. I had one (moons ago) which continuously had 'grey' oil and a leakiny rear main (fill the oil, check the gas). TBH, the oil leak kept the body of the D-150 (A833) frame from rusting. The carbon (1bbl) kept the exhaust from rusting.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Жыл бұрын
My friend had a slat six in his old Dodge dart Swinger. We actually tried to kill it with a brick on the accelerator pedal. It revved up and would not quit. Valve float kept it from revving too high, and we finished off a six pack waiting. Never died.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 Жыл бұрын
I vote for slant 6
@2clicks2theright375
@2clicks2theright375 Жыл бұрын
A 4.0? Tough motors!
@Pillowbiter84
@Pillowbiter84 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. 👍
@straublittleman
@straublittleman 8 ай бұрын
I had a guy drive his wifes 99 jeep Cherokee 25 miles into the shop the 4.0 ran decent but had a miss never made any noise but when we pulled the head off #6 piston was gone!! didn't scar up the cylinder at all we dingle berried the thing put a new piston and wrist pin on the rod reused the rod bearing because it still looked great and she's still driving it today 3 years later. The head casting on these are junk. But with much needed radiator upgrades these will last for a long time. AND A 180 DEGREE THERMOSTAT IS A MUST!!!
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