What About the Heme in Impossible Burgers?

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3 жыл бұрын

Is heme iron just an innocent bystander in the link between meat intake and breast cancer, diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and high blood pressure? And should we be concerned about the plant heme in Impossible Burgers?
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@SamFigueroa 3 жыл бұрын

Also, to some it might be worth mentioning that, an Impossible Burger shouldn’t be part of a daily staple food as it isn’t exactly a whole food rather a quite highly processed food. Make it an exemption rather than the rule.

@foxieroxieok 3 жыл бұрын

Great point, Sam!

@flclub54 3 жыл бұрын

@BenBenson the point of all these videos is to inform & educate .... therefore it's not "common sense" for the masses.

@ptx-functionaltraining8733 3 жыл бұрын

Just like a regular burger shouldn’t ...

@veg0machine 3 жыл бұрын

Make it an exemption rather than a rule? An exemption from what?

@foxieroxieok 3 жыл бұрын

@@veg0machine I think he meant to say exception.

@Natash_007 3 жыл бұрын

Impossible burgers are definitely healthier for the cows.

@gallectee6032 3 жыл бұрын

They'll definitely be healthier for humans too. No cholesterol so no oxysterols after cooking, no endotoxins (inflammatory molecules), no Neu5Gc, no arachadonic acid and so on.

@garethbaus5471 2 жыл бұрын

@@gallectee6032 true, but it still has plenty of saturated fat. I still like the taste of the impossible burger, and will probably eat it again in the future but it definitely isn't a health food.

@littlehousepineywoods5352 2 жыл бұрын

They're definitely an only once in awhile kind of thing for me.

@jjbartula 3 жыл бұрын

when you take a study break from studying nutrition to watch a Dr.Greger video... love my life

@terryjackson9395 3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, it's called immersing yourself. It's like, I wonder if gynecologists ever watch porn...One would think not. (Asking for a friend)

@jjbartula 3 жыл бұрын

@@terryjackson9395 hahaha that’s an interesting thought😂😂

@MictheVegan 3 жыл бұрын

In a Rich Roll interview CEO Pat Brown said the soy heme in his burger was less oxidative than animal heme which would imply less damaging. Would love to see some studies on this.

@wfpbwfpb 3 жыл бұрын

You look just like this guy named m.......wait.....whaaaaaat. Haha sorry. Love your channel.

@fieldlab4 3 жыл бұрын

They could easily make great veggie burgers and sausage from tofu, tempeh, grains and potatoes. I think the problem is, they couldn't PATENT IT.

@Natash_007 3 жыл бұрын

@@fieldlab4 You are missing the point. These products are meant as meat replacements to help people transition. Most people aren't going to go from eating pizza and hamburgers to ultra refined Whole Foods overnight.

@fieldlab4 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't say I don't eat junk food. What I'm saying is- if the vegan community doesn't make it very clear this is junk food, and hopefully point out better alternatives, meat eaters are going to switch to this stuff, see no benefits or maybe they over eat it and see their health worsen, and then they go back to eating meat with a vengeance, AND hating dishonest vegan culture. Be honest and clear to people, and encourage optimal whole foods. Big food industry is no friend of environmental justice, or social justice for the most part.

@Natash_007 3 жыл бұрын

@@fieldlab4 Look at all the big vegan/plant based nutritional channels. Look at their playlists. They have zero problems being clear about labeling foods as bad. It's a steady parade of videos, posts and information about all the foods you should not eat that will give you cancer. Even the plant based quack dieticians center their scams around specific foods and food groups that should be cut entirely out of your diet. That's what new vegans get confronted with when they seek out information. An avalanche of negative messaging and paranoia producing content. That can start to produce a pathological mindset about diet even in the most stable people. This is why vloggers that focus on teaching people to make plant based eating enticing and approachable are so successful. Most people need rehab from the Standard American Diet like severe heroin addicts. They've been filling the emptiness in their lives with garbage food and don't know what to replace it with.

@Fab5932 3 жыл бұрын

Much gratitude 🙏 Dr. Greger.

@gtrdxz 3 жыл бұрын

The way he talks is very engaging and it feels like he both takes pride in and enjoys his job

@gallectee6032 3 жыл бұрын

@read this I love that guy. Dr Greger is awesome. My only criticism of him is that he could use stricter standards before coming to probable conclusions because these weak points get used as areas of criticism.

@FreeRadicals9478 3 жыл бұрын

He does. Been following him for many years. He’s over the top sometimes but it’s endearing. 😁

@robertusga 3 жыл бұрын

@@gallectee6032 yeah, I used to think "surely he does not cherry pick and omits data that does not support his position!" Until it was clearly shown by Dr. Avi that he does. Very sad as it undermines the entire whole food plant based message. Just because whole food plant based diet is the best (which science still clearly shows), does not mean you have to make shtuff up.

@gallectee6032 3 жыл бұрын

@@robertusga I didn't see that criticism. What did he cherry pick? I'm mainly talking about epidemiological studies showing like a couple brazil nuts to reduce risk of CVD by 50%. That's just ridiculous. A clear impossibility. The massive CVD reduction risk 100% has more to it than nut eating.

@robertusga 3 жыл бұрын

@@gallectee6032 his olive oil study he referenced was way off the mark. Check Dr. Avi where he shows where Greger omitted data and misrepresented data when it comes to CVD reversal and how olive oil is bad for you. Using the same metrics we should stop exercising, sleeping and having sex.

@NA99693 3 жыл бұрын

I have a different question for Dr. Greger. I add very ripe bananas to my smoothie every day (think dark brown spots), and they tend to get a lot sweeter the longer they ripen and the darker they get. So my question (not only related to bananas but to all fruits and vegetables) is whether or not the nutrient profile changes in any way over time? With respect to bananas, does the fact that they are sweeter the riper they get indicate that the sugar content has changed and therefore will have a different impact on blood glucose, etc? Does their macro nutrient profile change over time? How about vitamin / mineral profile? Is there an optimal time after harvesting to be eating different fruits and vegetables? I mean, we generally know when they go bad and therefore have no value to us. However, do we know when they are the most nutrient dense? Thank you for all your work! I have been a fan of the channel for a long time and will be picking up your books shortly.

@tarantulapop2273 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I'm a loyal follower but can y'all please match the intro/outro volume with the rest of the video? This is constantly an issue in your videos. The outro comes in super loud because viewer has to turn up Dr. Greger. Thank you

@growcactus 3 жыл бұрын

What an awesome guy... 😎

@markrice3019 3 жыл бұрын

Ja ja 😍

@eelkeaptroot1393 3 жыл бұрын

I think I remember heme can help to oxidize cholesterol from another video....

@Soul_Younes 3 жыл бұрын

I always asked myself this question, but never really bothered to research it. Can't wait for the next one.

@daphne0123 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, what a cliffhanger!! Love you, Dr. Greger!!

@dtaylor4200 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the list of sources on your website. Great stuff!

@sungheelee9358 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait! Thank you, Dr. Greger!

@veg0machine 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of impossible burger but I'm still interested in the results.

@Ryansarcade9 3 жыл бұрын

Love the video series on impossible burgers!

@mymom9466 3 жыл бұрын

G-d bless you Dr. Greger for doing everything you do! You are changing for the better and saving people’s health everywhere. So glad you are doing this video on the heme iron in impossible meat! After learning that they use heme iron, I was wondering it’s source amd if it’s detrimental to our health. Looking forward to the continuation video(s) to find out! Much blessings to you and your family!

@esmev3151 2 жыл бұрын

Thank u for sharing. I'm switching to lentils and potatoes burgers

@vascoamaralgrilo 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@catiatorreslucena1806 3 жыл бұрын

Grata❣

@bonniemullen9820 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Greggors ‼️❣️😁🙋👏👏

@flattlandermontgomery1524 3 жыл бұрын

The body has a harder time regulating heme iron than it does normal natural iron found in plants. The body can choose how much iron to absorb from a whole plant source, but when it's confronted with heme iron, it can't stop or regulate the absorption of the heme iron. That's just another reason why animal products cause damage to the human body. That is also why people mistakenly think that plant iron is not as bio-available when in reality is the exact perfect amount of bio-available.

@Wyote1017 3 жыл бұрын

Better to stick with hemes prettier cousin, chlorophyll

@AndrewPawley11 20 күн бұрын

I love this channel!

@sylmacg1 3 жыл бұрын

I think in most cases vegans will be eating far fewer Impossible burgers, if at all (I don't), than meat eaters consume meat in general. And when they're eaten by meat-eaters, they'd likely just be as a substitute for meat that contained heme iron anyway.

@sharit7970 3 жыл бұрын

Aaaah! Another nutritional cliffhanger!

@TofuTal 3 жыл бұрын

To be continued? Ya killin’ me Smalls!! :) haha

@MRiJoosH 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question on your daily dozen app, can i tick the beans section if i have raw cocao beans init?

@sylmacg1 3 жыл бұрын

no - they're not actually a bean or legume at all, rather the seeds of the fruit of the cacao tree.

@MRiJoosH 3 жыл бұрын

@@sylmacg1 oh okay thank you!

@mjs28s 3 жыл бұрын

I don't buy the argument that impossible and beyond are higher in sodium than a regular burger for the simple reason that people season their burgers before they eat them. So just comparing ground beef to impossible is not really fair. One would need to compare the 'as prepared and served" of each rather than the raw ground beef that is unseasoned to the Impossible or Beyond patty which you don't need to add salt to.

3 жыл бұрын

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@AmandaOrigo 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahah that cliff hanger though!

@aurelienyonrac 3 жыл бұрын

Doc! The intro music is super loud and your voice is to quiet. Just letting you know

@Ahda108 3 жыл бұрын

Is this going have an effect on Impossible 🍔 stock tomorrow??

@myHealthSciences 3 жыл бұрын

Yea, I'd stick with whole foods based burgers (bean or sweet potato) and not worry about anything. I think these fake meats could turn out just as unhealthy as the real meats once we get more data.

@mrmrmaples 3 жыл бұрын

*"turns out estrogen is an important flavor component"*

@Natash_007 3 жыл бұрын

Not "just as unhealthy" for the cows.

@terrancesmith5389 3 жыл бұрын

and may I add, they are awful tasting, very greasy and salty.

@fieldlab4 3 жыл бұрын

They aren't much better unless they contain whole plants. It's so unnecessary too, with great options like tempeh and tofu (which is whole enough).

@roivosemraiva 3 жыл бұрын

It still is a type processed foods regardless .

@rashie 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@OhanaFilms 3 жыл бұрын

Impossible burgers are a wonderful treat every once in a while.

@lindapb6529 3 жыл бұрын

💜

@Original50 3 жыл бұрын

That was a hell of a cliff-hanger!

@allencrider 3 жыл бұрын

Somehow I'm able to live my life without eating chemical burgers.

@fieldlab4 3 жыл бұрын

Then you must be eating plants because US meat is far higher in chemicals than any veggie burger.

@gallectee6032 3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Greger, will you ever cover stem cells? It's such an interesting and complicated topic.

@Fab5932 3 жыл бұрын

Love it. I was wondering about the impossible burger. They serve it burnt in burger 🍔 king. Which then they say. It comes like this. Yuck 🤢

@RatZapTshirt 3 жыл бұрын

If it tastes like a regular Whopper, I'm there. All I care about then is which one is less unhealthy.

@AhimsaWitch 3 жыл бұрын

You can ask them to microwave the patty if you'd rather have it like that, no cross contamination that way

@Fab5932 3 жыл бұрын

@@AhimsaWitch oh wow. Ok. Thanks.

@davidk2187 3 жыл бұрын

That's literally what they are known for, "flame grilled burgers." That's what makes them not McDonalds. Kind of on you for not knowing that.

@lorah3005 3 жыл бұрын

#BoycottMeat and all other animal products, cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!

@elizabethkeplar1264 3 жыл бұрын

He didn't answer the question!!!

@rameshraghothama8324 3 жыл бұрын

Of late i guess he is getting some sponsors from the faux meat industry and wonder why he keeps skirting the real questions.

@Mark_Chandler 3 жыл бұрын

so is plant heme identical to animal heme?

@flattlandermontgomery1524 3 жыл бұрын

good question

@ingridsturesson6593 3 жыл бұрын

What a cliff hanger!

@zencone 3 жыл бұрын

Please ditch the unnecessary shrilly Intro & Outro music in the interest of preserving hearing. Put it to the test and see how many would prefer the music gone or at least way turned down.

@AccordionLadyDi 3 жыл бұрын

I personally like the intro music.

@pdblouin 3 жыл бұрын

I agree the sound mixing is a bit off. The intro is noticeably louder than the rest of the video.

@morganthem 3 жыл бұрын

It is loud

@cornekruger3937 3 жыл бұрын

It is a bit loud but it is important to have a jingle. That's why companies have been doing it for years. I like it but agree a little softer

@subversion6066 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't this tantamount to saying animal derived protein intake is pro-inflammatory while plant derived protein is not? While there is some fuzzy food science in the manufacturing of plant derived heme and certainly warrants further investigation, generally speaking if the other processed soy products are healthy to consume then plant derived heme should likely follow the same profile. I will say this: plant-derived heme has been given the FDA designation of GRAS Food (generally recognized as safe). Pretty weak. And the rooster is guarding the hen house on this product as no independent studies were provided to the FDA. Let me add this from a position statement critical of the FDA waving the research requirement: "This is the first time that people have consumed this product. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is supposed to require testing in this situation to make sure that this novel protein does not cause allergic reactions in people. Unfortunately, instead of requiring Impossible Foods to file a new Food Additive Petition, FDA allowed the company to use a weak regulatory process called "Generally Recognized As Safe" (GRAS) where the company does its own research and chooses its own reviewers to self-certify that its product is safe for human consumption. Center for Food Safety has a lawsuit challenging the GRAS food additive loophole that the Impossible Burger went through, allowing it and many other novel food substances to unlawfully evade government analysis and approval before coming to market." Very spurious if you asked me.

@EdgeMasterPro 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I too worry about the rose tinted (maybe green tinted) glasses when it comes to highly processed high sodium high fat fake meats.

@subversion6066 3 жыл бұрын

@@EdgeMasterPro well said sir...perfectly put in fact...but is your name really Hemeter? You know that’s crazy funny coincidence right? Heme Eater. Too funny!

@evilcanofdrpepper 3 жыл бұрын

CAN I EAT THE BURGERS OR NOT? They taste pretty good, though I covered them in umami carriers... what about that coconut amino stuff vs soy sauce? that's what I used for seasoning.

@davidk2187 3 жыл бұрын

This channel doesn't tell you what you can or can't eat, that's up to you. You already know that it is a processed food, so that means it is not part of a "whole food plant based" diet and therefore Dr. Greger wouldn't advise incorporating this into your daily diet. He already has an app and books telling you exactly what he recommends, so there is no mystery there.

@rameshraghothama8324 3 жыл бұрын

Eat it once a month to minimize your risk . NEVER eat daily - that will be the commonsense rule of thumb for any faux or highly processed product . A lot of fillers and extenders are added not with your health in mind , but with ease of the food assembly line for efficient mechanization of the process.

@fieldlab4 3 жыл бұрын

Only in moderation. It's junk food. Try tempeh and tofu, grilled plants instead.

@peterfitzpatrick7032 2 жыл бұрын

My gut instinct is to avoid Impossible meat... 😒

@kungfooman Жыл бұрын

1:52 literally a lie: Impossible Foods, producers of plant-based meat substitutes, use an accelerated heme synthesis process involving soybean root leghemoglobin and yeast, adding the resulting heme to items such as meatless (vegan) Impossible burger patties. The DNA for leghemoglobin production was extracted from the soybean root nodules and expressed in yeast cells to overproduce heme for use in the meatless burgers.[30] This process claims to create a meaty flavor in the resulting products.[31][32]

@flattlandermontgomery1524 3 жыл бұрын

It still seems like it shouldn't matter because if you are worried about your health you should not be eating such highly processed foods. Impossible burgers are for vegans that care about animals, but not their own bodies and also as just a way to impress meat eaters so that maybe they won't mock us LOL which who cares.

@lishr4536 3 жыл бұрын

The impossible burger isn't even vegan though... but yes, I think it will be interesting to find out about heme in these burgers.. can't wait for the next vid

@Amanda-ln7yb 3 жыл бұрын

They don't label their burgers as vegan or vegetarian. They say plant based This is synthetic biology. Gross AF

@rameshraghothama8324 3 жыл бұрын

They're desperate to make it so much like real meat that eventually it will end up being worse than meat lol. Most vegan Deli slices and meat substitutes already have tons of 92% sat fat coconut oil which makes chicken and turkey deli slices seem much healthier . Just like Cane sugar seems healthier than HFCS or Agave nectar. Introduce a new villain to make the old villains seem classy and angelic. Every day when i look at food labels its like manufacturers keep mocking their customers for trying to be diet conscious. I wont be surprised when they start adding pro-inflammatory Meat Sugar - alpha-1,3 Galactose to their fake meat burgers with a cover story of it being made from some 'fermented' beet molasses etc.

@michaelleroi9077 2 жыл бұрын

Dude. Are you are on a spasm med?

@narrowgate777 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible Burger embraces GMOs; it's on their website. For that reason alone, I'll never buy or consume it again.

@emanilove6222 2 жыл бұрын

Their burgers make me vomit every single time I consume them, I see that as a red flag.

@robertos4172 3 жыл бұрын

I remember many videos from this channel implicating heme as one of the reasons meat was evil. Now that it is showing up in a plant based product, the attempt at exoneration seem tendentious. Are we to consider imported Japanese beef a good source of nutrition? Why not? Can we not divorce the other unhealthy aspects of eating meat by similar gyrations employed here? This is becoming increasingly more like a religion like the Ketonites.

@rameshraghothama8324 3 жыл бұрын

Its becoming another Vegan Echo Chamber , not one that provides honest answers but uses click-bait style messaging to mislead.

@cornekruger3937 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. But whether or not heme is bad for you, the other things listed in meat are bad as well. As well as the hugely decreased environmental impact (not to mention this little thing called the carbon footprint of meat) of eating this instead of meat. He does not want to condemn it outright because of all of the benefits that this brings despite having some drawbacks. But he pretty much says that the studies we have say they could be bad but it is not sure because it is not interventional. Ie. Watch the next video and see for the final call

@cornekruger3937 3 жыл бұрын

Also, he says numerous times that eating unprocessed meat is healthier than eating highly processed plant products, and the other point is that eating Japanese beef would be better than American, but still not as good as lentils. You can be vegan but chips and coke and not form part of a healthy diet

@robertos4172 3 жыл бұрын

@@cornekruger3937 So is he saying it's better to eat Japanese beef than the impossible burger?

@cornekruger3937 3 жыл бұрын

@@robertos4172 hahaha. I think if you follow his advice probably, but that would depend on the content. So I would classify impossible burger as red and a venison burger would probably be even better than Japanese beef. (See video on oxidative stress cause by different types of meat- kangaroo has way less than beef - like a quarter of the postprandial oxidative stress on blood tests)