What Analytics RUINED in the NBA

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BBALLBREAKDOWN

BBALLBREAKDOWN

4 жыл бұрын

When Rick Carlisle told the media he didn't want to post up Kristaps Porzingis, it sparked a huge debate about the state of the NBA in general, and whether analytics misinterpreted certain plays as inefficient. Coach Nick goes in deep to explain how the post up hasn't been valued properly and why it should never go away.
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@akarkasimankh1310
@akarkasimankh1310 4 жыл бұрын
"He's like 6'11, 6'12.." - Shaq
@lav1daloca
@lav1daloca 4 жыл бұрын
no he's 6'15 lol
@alfredhitchcock45
@alfredhitchcock45 4 жыл бұрын
haha porzingis is taller and longer than shaq. he looks 6'11-ish because he's thin and long.
@lmrbeerbellyl
@lmrbeerbellyl 4 жыл бұрын
It was a joke about how 7fters who dont want to play center list themselves as 6"11
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 4 жыл бұрын
mel saint Skinner people tend to look longer and taller than heavier people . Porzingis looks taller than shaq which he is; he just isn’t bigger . Shaq has a longer wingspan though
@Buttington_Headerson
@Buttington_Headerson 4 жыл бұрын
Shaq can be dumb but that was probably a joke
@patrickhiggins8854
@patrickhiggins8854 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this music make me feel I'm watching a true crime documentary lol
@LouisDapilma
@LouisDapilma 4 жыл бұрын
Chris D'Avanzo agreed
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 4 жыл бұрын
Cause carlisle made a crime saying postup is dead. He's intention was right to defend his player, but that's just wrong to say that coming from a long time coach with a chip in his name. Kp is young and can still work his game more, and post ups is one of that which he was actually good at it like what coach nick highlighted in this vid, he's a 7'3 ffs.
@fahimrahman9577
@fahimrahman9577 4 жыл бұрын
@@comedychrises comment slick as fuck
@lordaaron6332
@lordaaron6332 4 жыл бұрын
it is a crime documentary, ''who killed the postups?''
@Zecamilleo
@Zecamilleo 4 жыл бұрын
Because he is killing in the game
@camobash2462
@camobash2462 4 жыл бұрын
When he says historic he’s talking about his 3pt shooting ability for his height
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 4 жыл бұрын
Historic doesn't mean valuable
@itsyeaboi5333
@itsyeaboi5333 4 жыл бұрын
hes shooting 34%, u know the tall euro guy before him i. e we all know dirk shot above that (another tall guy who shoots well even better in the nba right now is siakam) he said historic shooting not historic offensive plus so he clearly or at least somewhere is misinformed.
@enaidealukal9203
@enaidealukal9203 4 жыл бұрын
But its still not historic, unless you cherry-pick it so precisely that Porzingis ends up being 1st among a group of 1. Porzingis is a 35.7% 3pt shooter on his career, and has only 1 season shooting higher than 36% from 3. But there have been lots of bigs, not just Dirk, who have topped that: Chris Webber, Mehmet Okur, Troy Murphy, Brad Miller, Myers Leonard, Boris Diaw, Al Horford are just a handful of recent bigs who have shot better from 3 than Porzingis. Porzingis isn't even the best 3pt shooting center in the league right now, let alone in NBA history: Kelly Olynyk and Karl Towns are both shooting over 40% from 3 this year, both are centers. Aron Baynes is shooting 38%, much better than Porzingis at 34%, and is a center. Myles Turner, Marc Gasol, and Frank Kaminsky are all centers shooting better than Porzingis this year.
@gautamgautamsuresh1218
@gautamgautamsuresh1218 4 жыл бұрын
Leif Christian Rosendo give kd some love man
@gautamgautamsuresh1218
@gautamgautamsuresh1218 4 жыл бұрын
Clutch7 who asked him to take deep shots ,that’s just inefficient
@GhostD0G8
@GhostD0G8 4 жыл бұрын
"throwing the ball in the low post DOES NOT mean you have to shoot it" 🙌🏾 Preach Brotha
@OjoRojo40
@OjoRojo40 4 жыл бұрын
Solid 43% as a post player?? Are you fucking serious "coach" ??????????????? And you clearly have comprehension problems carlisle said the value of THE POST play has plumed IN GENERAL he never said that Luka playing the post AGAINST A SMALL player is not worth it and actually that's why they still post with Luka....... My god "coach" hahahahaha, you are getting old :p
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 4 жыл бұрын
Please stop copy/pasting the same obnoxious comment everywhere.
@GhostD0G8
@GhostD0G8 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhaydenbell what are u referring to?
@tyrejohnson4156
@tyrejohnson4156 4 жыл бұрын
Shittt I play center and I will bust a 3 anytime I fucking feel the need to
@C0C0_Nuts
@C0C0_Nuts 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah passing out of the post is a rare skill though. That's a hard position to pass from, if your back's to the basket you can't see over half the court.
@RealTalk2000
@RealTalk2000 4 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown and I generally agree. Post-ups can also help pick up fouls on the opposing big men, which may limit their aggressiveness on D (on-ball and help) later on in the game.
@johngriller4997
@johngriller4997 4 жыл бұрын
Great great point!
@da_jeezuss8922
@da_jeezuss8922 4 жыл бұрын
Also better for stamina. You can just lean right up against the defender. You're not running around the perimeter, doing hundreds of crossovers and it takes less energy from your legs to shoot inside then it does pulling up from 30' 😂
@GhostD0G8
@GhostD0G8 4 жыл бұрын
Yup also generates a high percent of getting an offensive rebound as 3s generally are long rebounds/break starters
@VS-np3yq
@VS-np3yq 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget thats the bread and butter of phil's triangle. And was already proven before.
@ciaojay7025
@ciaojay7025 4 жыл бұрын
4 out 1 in offense is great. A lot of space to your big to dominate the paint then when he is being double teamed he can just kick it out for a 3
@bukthegoat4159
@bukthegoat4159 4 жыл бұрын
KP is just what he is. A glitch and absolutely amazing player when he’s hot 🥵
@nalimlattarai2873
@nalimlattarai2873 4 жыл бұрын
The Monster Zz nah
@justinpurcell3717
@justinpurcell3717 4 жыл бұрын
​@@nalimlattarai2873 You dare diss the unicorn? I'm sorry but he is an amazing player. shooting 35-40% from 3 for a man of his size is unheard of... Outside of Dirk and maybe Sabonis, no other big man comes close to stretching the floor in NBA history and dirk was 3-4 inches shorter
@coolhands4444
@coolhands4444 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Purcell his height doesn’t mean anything if he’s not even using it. I’d rather have a 35% shooter who is 4 inches shorter but can at least grab rebounds and take advantage of mismatches. Hell, I’d rather have a 45% shooter who can’t do anything else on offense but space tho floor, cause they would basically be a more efficient and lower usage Porzingis. If KP was a great rebounder and a bully in the paint then you could make a statement like that since it adds to his game. But this season, spacing the floor is really his only weapon on offense so his height doesn’t add much
@coolhands4444
@coolhands4444 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Purcell also he’s shooting below 35% from three this season so he’s not even in the 35-40% range
@saiwaqa2573
@saiwaqa2573 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolhands4444 he is rebounding the ba at a high rate this season
@Thatninetykid
@Thatninetykid 4 жыл бұрын
KP gets stripped far too often in the post especially when he tries to face up instead of the fade
@john-wg2vm
@john-wg2vm 4 жыл бұрын
its a self fulfilling prophecy. the more he posts the better he'll be and less likely to lose the ball
@mokushmasmo6009
@mokushmasmo6009 4 жыл бұрын
john 8181818 What? You mean teams will stop talking to him lmao? Not every tall ass boy can bang in the post... This is his play style.
@kobyrosenberg4480
@kobyrosenberg4480 4 жыл бұрын
@@mokushmasmo6009 In his last year in NY he was posting up constantly and was doing great. If he practices being in the post more, he will be a better post player, its simple.
@rre40rre
@rre40rre 4 жыл бұрын
Kp don't got great Hands
@718ant5
@718ant5 4 жыл бұрын
90 KiD Lazy Kraken no offensive awareness
@davidahrner4876
@davidahrner4876 4 жыл бұрын
When he said historically great on 3s, he said historically great on above the break threes. Havent checked if its true, but its different from just threes.
@erickmosqueda8057
@erickmosqueda8057 4 жыл бұрын
It don’t matter his size if he gets the ball in the basket then he’s doing a good job
@wingzero3018
@wingzero3018 4 жыл бұрын
You dumb
@elsamurai1220
@elsamurai1220 4 жыл бұрын
@@wingzero3018 it's like he said. Size don't matter if you can't put the ball in the bucket. 💯
@loocas8434
@loocas8434 4 жыл бұрын
Factss
@loocas8434
@loocas8434 4 жыл бұрын
@@wingzero3018 How?
@wingzero3018
@wingzero3018 4 жыл бұрын
@@elsamurai1220 because size does matter. It doesn't make since to put a 7 footer on the perimeter when he can put the ball through the hoop 5 feet away from the basket. But the NBA is soft now, so maybe it makes since to watch 7 footers like embiid to score zero points and the unicorn to be unable to bang inside if need be. Get out of here with that weak stuff
@Mantvisr
@Mantvisr 4 жыл бұрын
He's just still rusty, give him more time and he will kill it like he did in NY. Anyways, he's shooting from the logo like 100%. And personally KP is one of the most entertaining players to watch. Nobody talks about his defense, Doncic was good last year also but to get to the playoff there was no chance. Look now when they have KP on defense....
@ammonquitalig9077
@ammonquitalig9077 4 жыл бұрын
Agree...coach carlisle knows whats up, he just got tired of this narrative that people like barkley keeps on pushing. I think he knows that kp is not yet hundred percent, and does not have the skill set to be in the post. Kp has a lean body, so he wont be banging guys backing them down. Maybe next season. Now, not yet.
@JD-ny3vz
@JD-ny3vz 4 жыл бұрын
I followed KP in NY he only never showed at any point he can sustain any sort of consistency. He has mad potential but offensively hes never been as good as advertised. With that said I’d still love to have him in NY and i do think hes best as a 2nd or 3rd option which he is behind Doncic now.
@allenxavier6073
@allenxavier6073 4 жыл бұрын
@@JD-ny3vz KP is an MVP candidate when he's the 1st option in Knicks, but that all came to stop when he suffered an injury.
@JD-ny3vz
@JD-ny3vz 4 жыл бұрын
@@allenxavier6073 that was for the firs month or two for the season prior to his injury his production fell off a cliff, and his production dropped dramatically midway through the season in his first 2 seasons as well.
@allenxavier6073
@allenxavier6073 4 жыл бұрын
@@JD-ny3vz it didn't fell through a cliff, he was still dropping all star numbers.
@supune
@supune 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the Lakers especially early in the season were getting AD posted early in the offense. I also like how the nuggets use Jokic with space and move and give him options. Coming from playing in Europe,I thought KP would be a better passer from inside
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
Earlier in the season it was just a 2-MAN SHOW running 1-Pass Offense. As a result, Lebron & Anthony dealing with injuries for not involving the whole team in offensive production, ONLY DEFENSIVE PRODUCTION.
@andreilyas1426
@andreilyas1426 4 жыл бұрын
@@deandrepage1048 Where are you gettig your information from
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreilyas1426 Watch games. It was either a Lebron James ISO or 1 pass to Anthony Davis so he could go ISO-MODE. Killed any chance for the NEW SHOOTERS to develop a rhythm.
@ricardoespitiarunza2823
@ricardoespitiarunza2823 4 жыл бұрын
I'm agree with you. If AD, Jokic, KAT and other centers can do it ...KP should be able to do it. Of course Mavericks could win a high % of games but sometimes, you need an aggressive center when your team struggles in offense. If this is not happens... Luka is the chosen to do this job.
@Kipple-wp7pd
@Kipple-wp7pd 4 жыл бұрын
Porzingis has never been on a positive team until now, this is just more media trying to be coaches.
@ammonquitalig9077
@ammonquitalig9077 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! People bash bad coaches with bad records. Now kp has a better team with better coaching, he still gets some. But thats the way it is.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why I don't watch media. Too many fake news
@LILUldon
@LILUldon 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera true
@OjoRojo40
@OjoRojo40 4 жыл бұрын
He's just an average shooter.
@jrdaboy2434
@jrdaboy2434 4 жыл бұрын
OjoRojo40 he coming back from missing 20 months of basketball, KP criminally underrated. 7’3 shooter who wouldn’t want him on your team to space the floor.
@mmorris9751
@mmorris9751 4 жыл бұрын
The post is ALIVE glad you highlighted this!
@jeffhardy6333
@jeffhardy6333 4 жыл бұрын
KD literally won Warriors 2 rings by playing in the post and midrange. Kawhi, Siakam and Gasol too. We can even go back to 2014 Spurs. Rick Carlisle is talking bullshit
@ardinhajihil5011
@ardinhajihil5011 4 жыл бұрын
yet the mavs are winning now, they just changed this concept recently nba became boring shooting contest
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffhardy6333 Lmao kd wouldn't won the ring without curry or Klay Thomson tho. The stats number show otherwise tho. Majority curry and Klay do the most work
@jeffhardy6333
@jeffhardy6333 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan lex Klay got some buckets in the post too but okay😂
@manz7860
@manz7860 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera and if my aunt had stones, she'd be my uncle.
@shangoat2008
@shangoat2008 4 жыл бұрын
happy new year to you all, and to you, Coach Nick!
@kNightmare1994
@kNightmare1994 4 жыл бұрын
Zones really hurt the post up imo. KP isn’t Dirk. People need to realize that.
@_gamepoint_
@_gamepoint_ 4 жыл бұрын
Only if you look at it like you have to shoot. Modern defenses will pre rotate but honestly that just means that they have compromised themselves and if the post player has the vision he can take advantage of it. Most guys don't have the vision though
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 4 жыл бұрын
Hate zone
@ftc_recking1576
@ftc_recking1576 4 жыл бұрын
Zones hurt the post up? Than why do we see guys like lebron slice through a zone simply by sitting in the post and creating shots for his teammates of himself regularly? You can then say that lebron is lebron and while I agree with that there is a genuine reason why Giannis leads the Bucks in assists, and it’s not because Bledsoe is there point guard. Post ups need to be in the game more and I agree with everything that was said in the video. Get guards down there with good vision to exploit the defense.
@kNightmare1994
@kNightmare1994 4 жыл бұрын
FTC_Recking 15 zones hurt the post up because it makes it easier to double off of someone. How do you destroy a zone? A bunch of 3s. They can post up Giannis and people will double because he is dominant within 5 feet of the rim. They have some of the best 3 point shooters on that team. You have to put a good passer in there posting up and you’ll be good.
@ftc_recking1576
@ftc_recking1576 4 жыл бұрын
Forrest Hinton exactly what I just said if you have a good passer in the post you will shred the zone and get the efficiency you want with 3s and good looks at the rim if they don’t double
@sulmona55
@sulmona55 4 жыл бұрын
Coach: post ups are dead Melo: Hold my beer
@IndianaSmallmouth
@IndianaSmallmouth 4 жыл бұрын
Melo looks like he's been drinking a lot of beer. Washed. Up.
@NeroVuk
@NeroVuk 4 жыл бұрын
@@IndianaSmallmouth do you even watch basketball? with dumbass comments like that.
@doksfrommars
@doksfrommars 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, because his slow ass, ISO plays didnt kill Knicks and now the Blazers. Its nice when you watch a highlight real, but the Blazers might not even make playoffs. His a deadweight in todays age.
@davidjohnson8655
@davidjohnson8655 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeroVuk Do you even know who Melo is? He averaged 30 a game with Allen Iverson on his team. Now he is #washedprince
@sulmona55
@sulmona55 4 жыл бұрын
@@doksfrommars Blazers arent making the playoffs because Nurkic, Collins, and Hood have all been out for pretty much the whole season. so literally 3/5 of their starters havent been able to play. And when nurk comes back hes gonna be rusty AF like gordon hayward was for awhile
@abc8722
@abc8722 4 жыл бұрын
The irony is that there was a team that focused heavily on offensive rebounds to make up for first order inefficiency, the last year KD was with the Thunder. Coach hated that team.
@okeybuckeye524
@okeybuckeye524 4 жыл бұрын
Thunder had offensive liability at the 5.
@abc8722
@abc8722 4 жыл бұрын
@@okeybuckeye524 I agree as far as that goes, but 1) that's not the only position that can post -- in fact coach keeps pushing point guards to post 2) I was mostly just commenting on part of the vid where coach was talking about collapsing offences and getting more offensive boards. . . . it's a strategy more teams should try, the Thunder rode that to almost beating the 73 win Warriors.
@okeybuckeye524
@okeybuckeye524 4 жыл бұрын
I am an Oklahoma native. The Thunder were a hot mess. Everyone here knew that those three were special but the insistence of Brooks to play Tabo and Perkins while never running a pick and roll, screen or any motion. They wanted to emulate San Antonio and they did but it was all of the worst stuff that wasn't a fit for OKC's personnel.
@abc8722
@abc8722 4 жыл бұрын
@@okeybuckeye524 You have your ax to grind, clearly. I'm not even saying you're wrong. Here, I'll say it: you are what about what you talking about. But, what I'm saying worked for that team was it's historically high offensive rebounding rate. Once you use that, as the video wants us to use to re-evaluate post offense, what the Thunder did "worked," went up 3-1 on the Warriors, and could have won a championship. And, yes, it would have been an incredibly ugly way to win. Lastly, congrats on also being from Oklahoma.
@okeybuckeye524
@okeybuckeye524 4 жыл бұрын
@@abc8722 I guess I am trying to get across why being an all-time great offensive rebounding team with that amount of scoring talent is like saying that the most impressive part of Michael Jordan's game was all those times he led the league in steals. Yay that's great but I think the scoring is the cream. Coach may see it that way as well. He is getting into some pretty subjective territory when you say that a big missing a shot in the paint is a positive play because it opens rebounding opportunities that in turn can foster open threes. Seems like a lot of moving parts to maybe get a rebound that will maybe get a three.
@javiervgn
@javiervgn 4 жыл бұрын
Hey coach, thanks for the great video response to this topic. I was wondering if you saw my question when I posted it. Happy New Year and again, keep up the good content.
@picknroll929
@picknroll929 4 жыл бұрын
I think posting up should depend on your skills and effectiveness at the post instead of height.. If KP wants to be in the post he should add a hook shot or a running hook shot. His turnaround jumpshot at the post is inefficient.
@ABCurry30
@ABCurry30 4 жыл бұрын
AND HE CAN;T PASS
@enaidealukal9203
@enaidealukal9203 4 жыл бұрын
but therein lies the rub- even the very best post-up players taking shots from the post has a lower expected value than just an average NBA player shooting a 3 or a lay-up. Compare the points per possession from post-ups for guys like Jokic, Embiid, KAT, etc. to the ppp for an average player shooting a 3. Its just not an efficient shot or form of offense. I mean, I definitely miss watching post-up play, and we're definitely missing something by post play getting marginalized... but videos like this are basically asking coaches to shoot themselves in the foot and take lower-value shots from the post because... nostalgia, basically.
@enaidealukal9203
@enaidealukal9203 4 жыл бұрын
(all that said, the post remains highly relevant in the NBA not as a source for offense in itself, but as a way to set up other, better/higher-value shots for other players: setting up 3 pointers from a post-up, for instance- this is the future of the post in today's NBA, not a throwback to post-up scorers like Shaq, the Dream, Tim Duncan, etc)
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
@@enaidealukal9203 the video shows that Post play is not being advocated for nostalgia's sake. But because it is effective, though not strictly for Points return of the Post itself. But because of O rebounds, passes from the Post to the arc (best ones), passes to cutters, etc. Not nostalgia driven. Maybe Nick is nostalgic for it, idk, but his reasons were all results based, imo.
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
Kobe grew in his post game, as did Michael (who Kobe emulated). Kobe even added the Dirk leg and Euro step, which were things that 80s/90s MJ never did. So whilst height ≠ post game, Kobe showed that skills can be acquired, even if you are naturally suited to being a Wing. Jason Kidd was a terrible shooter, but was great by the time he retired in comparison. Vince Carter also added the 3 to keep his career. TLDR; effectiveness is the criteria, but all can practice to become more effective. :)
@James-df3in
@James-df3in 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. The best part was at the end when you mentioned deteriorating footwork skills. Personally, I want more post play because chucking 3's Houston style is boring as.
@XxMVPxDawg
@XxMVPxDawg 4 жыл бұрын
Houston's style still looks a lot different than everyone else's.
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I’ve been developing some training methods and fundamentals that I believe will help Players be better scorers down there
@vegan4life64
@vegan4life64 4 жыл бұрын
i miss Kobe
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
There are many Hakeem, McHale, Jordan and Kobe videos out there. No need for posting up to die 😁
@alexl9799
@alexl9799 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree but the idea that ppl expect the league to conform to their idea of "fun" even though it is proven to be less efficient is just dumb. Not saying you're one of those, but too many ppl cannot understand why the game is played this way now and believe it's a product of lazier or softer players. Like, no, it's a product of smarter teams and players even if it is less fun to watch. If bully ball/low post banger type play gave teams the best chance to win, you bet it would be the trend around the league.
@jshgbp
@jshgbp 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I love this "angry Coach Nick" music
@kinowa2602
@kinowa2602 4 жыл бұрын
I feel post play just feels more fun. Imagine KP blowing by the defender with a spin and getting a easy lay or assist.
@libraalibaba
@libraalibaba 4 жыл бұрын
They've taken the fun and competitive nature away from the game. Just to see who can launch the most 35 footers.
@alizivani6274
@alizivani6274 4 жыл бұрын
You think if he could he wouldn't? He's not fucking fast enough and he's 7'3
@toohigh4u18
@toohigh4u18 4 жыл бұрын
Libra Alibaba that shit definitely wins games though
@libraalibaba
@libraalibaba 4 жыл бұрын
@@toohigh4u18 For some teams and players. Not when everyone is doing it.
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 4 жыл бұрын
@@alizivani6274 he could. This 2:30 spin move is nice. He should use it more.
@thefrenchyflip
@thefrenchyflip 4 жыл бұрын
Great video coach. One of my favorites, and I’m a long time viewer!
@awayinmymind3970
@awayinmymind3970 4 жыл бұрын
"Post ups are a low value situation." *Anthony Davis would like to know your location*
@rebelranger
@rebelranger 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've been screaming this point for years. When everyone looks at the analytics at face value, of course the post up generates lower percentage shots, but there are other ways to score off of low post action such as offensive rebounds, three point shots, and cutters. With that said, there are very few centers in today's NBA that can play the distributing role other than Jokic. There aren't that many Sabonis', Wilt Chamberlains, or Pau Gasol's that can create offense by passing out of the post.
@AndrewL31413
@AndrewL31413 4 жыл бұрын
His predecessor was told he should stay in the paint as well.
@ishyameru6232
@ishyameru6232 4 жыл бұрын
His predecessor is a top 3 pf all time and an all-around better player idk if kp is the next dirk
@isaacsalazar342
@isaacsalazar342 4 жыл бұрын
Ashor-IE _ he’s not but dirk never played in the paint
@_gamepoint_
@_gamepoint_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsalazar342 that's false. His signature shot is a fadeway one legged jumper brother
@velmacrutch9480
@velmacrutch9480 4 жыл бұрын
Dirk's signature move is a one-legged post fades tho
@ricardobertuldo9744
@ricardobertuldo9744 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsalazar342 when did you start watching nba?
@boratsmagadijev940
@boratsmagadijev940 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year. Thank you for your great videos!
@ricocontreras5235
@ricocontreras5235 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! This is one great qualitative analysis to backup those data
@Jorgecutzz
@Jorgecutzz 4 жыл бұрын
When you post up you possibly can get the opponents in foul trouble like Shaq always got his opponents in foul trouble
@notquitemytempo1353
@notquitemytempo1353 4 жыл бұрын
That's not a good example though. Shaq was incredibly dominant and more often than not the only way to stop him was with a foul. Not only that, but fouling him was a good option cause he was terrible at the line.
@mokushmasmo6009
@mokushmasmo6009 4 жыл бұрын
Jorge Cahvez is KP Shaq?
@ericbrown2273
@ericbrown2273 4 жыл бұрын
Not quite my tempo It was a bad one when you’re in the bonus and you have to stop Kobe as well & he didn’t really miss from the free throw line .
@abuanwp
@abuanwp 4 жыл бұрын
Shaq is a fat guy so technically he's not prone to injury. KP is not stupid to take the risk.
@mokushmasmo6009
@mokushmasmo6009 4 жыл бұрын
Tomato Madness What? The fuck logic is that. If you’re fat as shit like Shaq you’re WAY MORE prone to injury.
@jcw034
@jcw034 4 жыл бұрын
Here is my thing without looking at this video first (I am a Mavs and Pelicans fan) The post is necessary. KP needs to take more shot. It takes pressure off him and the team late game and it allows them to slow the game. You could take advantage of the double for the open shot which makes your offense better. In the playoffs when they start taking away the 3 ball you need that post player to grind players down and open up those shots. For example if they matchup with the Lakers and they start taking away their 3. I would like to see Luka and KP in the post on the mismatch. That means AD or Javale is gonna come help or whoever is near. Now if he makes a pass they will stay off him. Which leaves the mismatch. If they double they get the open shot. If you do this to certain players you can wear them down. The post is incredible important. It is a necessity. I think KP needs more footwork training and he needs to work better at getting his positioning. Those 2 things would help. You mean to tell me Rondo on KP in the post isnt a matchup you wouldnt wanna exploit? Bullshit. I will take that matchup every night.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
How can you be a fan of two team? LMAO😂🤦
@jcw034
@jcw034 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera easy. I lived in both locations and say "I love the team of the places I live". There is no rule saying you cant be.
@ruffprophetproductions
@ruffprophetproductions 4 жыл бұрын
love you coach have a great new year lets go for a mil!
@sebas_akgvi9695
@sebas_akgvi9695 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, great content every time coach!
@Sidestrain101
@Sidestrain101 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Duncan together with his 5 rings left the Group chat
@TheTraveller09
@TheTraveller09 4 жыл бұрын
Post spin move is the PF equivalent of a PG cross over. If its alright to cross over and drive the lane or pick and roll but not LP move drawing help or the dunk? Balanced all around game for individuals and teams.
@club6525
@club6525 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is it doesn’t create good spacing in the paint. Having one player remain in the post clogs up the lane I think
@TheTraveller09
@TheTraveller09 3 жыл бұрын
@@club6525 you the player create space and use the lane provided/created by the team spacing
@TheTraveller09
@TheTraveller09 3 жыл бұрын
@@club6525 also you have many give and go or cross court options from low or high
@club6525
@club6525 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTraveller09 It’s just better spacing-wise I think. Despite the give-and-go options, it creates less space and allows easier defense I think
@TheTraveller09
@TheTraveller09 3 жыл бұрын
@@club6525 key is defensive mind set then, and in today's nba that is perhaps not as intensively maintained in general so can be exploited...I here your point
@BP-jf9nb
@BP-jf9nb 4 жыл бұрын
A banger of a video to end 2019! And guess what NO ADS!!
@Birdman32
@Birdman32 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you. I’m 33 and played the 4-5 positions all my life and have an old school post game and have understood all of what you’ve said since I was about 14. I hate the way basketball is played now. Why go for a 40-45% shot 30 feet away all the time when you can get a 50-60% shot much closer to the basket? Another great video man
@tylerhatch8962
@tylerhatch8962 4 жыл бұрын
When you shoot threes you take the opposing teams height out of the game, come on Chuck!
@bilindabutcher8913
@bilindabutcher8913 4 жыл бұрын
@Hey Mister DJ yeah but you want a tall player guarding the basket lmao, would you rather have Gobert guarding the line or the rim?
@RogerBliddack
@RogerBliddack 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Hatch - That’s not what Chuck said. He meant/said: “When he (Porzingis) shoots threes... he takes his (own) size (advantage) out of the game.” And Barkley is right about that. Porzingis is not getting any rebounds, or getting any opposing big men in foul trouble when he is shooting lots of threes. So his numbers suffer.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 4 жыл бұрын
Ya brick a 3 and tall guy gets rebound with 0 energy used and 0 contest. Brilliant plan dumbass
@oiimunaa
@oiimunaa 4 жыл бұрын
His team, including him, outrebound most opponents BECAUSE he is dragging his man away from the rim.
@GrrSaidTheWolf
@GrrSaidTheWolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@majormarketing6552 Seeing as how the Mavericks are currently 5th in the west, I'd say that their strategy is working pretty well.
@user-kp7ls7ml1h
@user-kp7ls7ml1h 4 жыл бұрын
this game is not changing , even shaq or yao ming, exist in this era, they can still dominate in paint and score at least 25 points per game
@yonelaposwa4932
@yonelaposwa4932 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! This is exactly what I've been trying to explain to people for so long especially the bit with KP. You've got yourself a new subscriber
@soundsandwords
@soundsandwords 4 жыл бұрын
Mic drop at the end. Love it.
@DefiantMercenary
@DefiantMercenary 4 жыл бұрын
KP was killing in the post in NY with a lesser team. Im surprised he doesn't post up KP at all.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
Well still he can't bring NY to the playoff evendo he was kiling in the post
@noahamankwaah9802
@noahamankwaah9802 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera Before he was injured they were in the playoffs race...
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
@@noahamankwaah9802 if that so? Knicks is still 10 To 14 seats in the eastern conference yo in 2014,2015,2016,2017,2018 tho. That ain't no playoffs race
@noahamankwaah9802
@noahamankwaah9802 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera And that how I knew that most NBA's fans have short memories... "Before Porzingis was injured, the Knicks, five games behind the Philadelphia 76ers for the last playoff spot" Extract from the article of Washington post written on February 7, 2018.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
@@noahamankwaah9802 lmao yet Knicks rank 15 seat in 2018 season. One game ain't gonna change anything yo🤦😂
@southafricanizationofsociety20
@southafricanizationofsociety20 4 жыл бұрын
“Post up is not a good play anymore...” Tim Duncan: “Was I a joke to you?!”
@TheProstum
@TheProstum 4 жыл бұрын
well they still didnt chuck up that many 3s when timmy played
@JC0820
@JC0820 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Duncan and the SPURS is the reason that today's teams are not bating on post up plays they prefer to defend the 3 ball rather than double teaming the player in the post...
@user-im5we1te8w
@user-im5we1te8w 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he retired about the time the nba changed like this, and his last few years they had him at center
@MrGuardsec
@MrGuardsec 4 жыл бұрын
When you say Anymore, what does that mean to you? Lol, did you understand the context?
@Daniel1300k
@Daniel1300k 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Coach!
@AJ-di4df
@AJ-di4df 4 жыл бұрын
@bballbreakdown your videos make me love the game even more
@midassnap9028
@midassnap9028 4 жыл бұрын
He's sticking up for his player. Early on he posted up a lot and kept getting the ball knocked out of his hands or couldn't make the shot.
@yossiblumenfeld4798
@yossiblumenfeld4798 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why he is missing all those shots in the first three minutes is because he is catching the ball from way too far. If he caught it another three feet closer to the basket its a much better play...
@elsamurai1220
@elsamurai1220 4 жыл бұрын
I agree but it's because he's so damn tall that all the smaller players bully him on the catch. That's why he's catching it from so far out.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, their shoulder is in his knee (exaggerating but point made) which makes it hard to move.
@Rcrdslns
@Rcrdslns 4 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis coach! That is often the biggest misunderstandings of using analytics...you gotta know what does the number you measure really means
@gameshelper1000
@gameshelper1000 4 жыл бұрын
Really solid video coach!!
@beesknees8296
@beesknees8296 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like he meant the value of post up situations in general is plummeting
@shaulyehudah29
@shaulyehudah29 4 жыл бұрын
But he just proved how untrue that is. It leads to the two best shots in the Gabe today ope 3’s and layups.
@ephraimdivina4828
@ephraimdivina4828 4 жыл бұрын
Warriors always post up either green or Kd during their title run. When the ball is in the post you have so many options.
@Max-kv8uw
@Max-kv8uw 4 жыл бұрын
Shaul yehudah well they are still plummeting. When you look at the best post up players in the league, none of them except Joel Embiid exceed the efficiency that their team has on offense meaning that post-ups aren’t better than the average offensive possession even for the best players. This was not the case a decade ago.
@JimmyKillem69
@JimmyKillem69 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaulyehudah29 you get open threes from Luka's league-best drives to the basket, you get offensive rebounds from Porzingis dragging his man away from the basket to the arc
@JimmyKillem69
@JimmyKillem69 4 жыл бұрын
@@ephraimdivina4828 the Warriors lived off transitions, threes, off-ball movement and some set plays the post was not a factor
@5wisher5weet
@5wisher5weet 4 жыл бұрын
On offence we need to treat him like a wing player, when he crosses the half court on D he morphs into a 7’3 rim defender
@danielcongleton2878
@danielcongleton2878 4 жыл бұрын
Always thought the game of basketball is about creating mismatches and double teams. Always thought postups dribble hand offs, big man little man pick and rolls (off ball and on ball) and hard screens where the bread and butter of efficiency. I loved how you mentioned guards should post up more per their leverage. Reminded me about the center chuck hayes, how he never had a jump shot, but his leverage and playmaking made him a valuable asset on every team regardless of being a 6-6 center. Dude was a beast in pinch post
@junkjunk2493
@junkjunk2493 4 жыл бұрын
hey man great analysis thanks for your work
@govols2214
@govols2214 4 жыл бұрын
I side with Carlisle in this debate. Imagine nitpicking a guy who has the most efficient offense in history and it’s not even like that roster is that stacked
@naolerena3193
@naolerena3193 4 жыл бұрын
It can be better you always have to adapt and change before teams catch on
@TheGuyWhoStandsOut
@TheGuyWhoStandsOut 3 жыл бұрын
About KP specifically hes right, but post ups arent low value if you have a guy whos good at them.
@danielgrass9881
@danielgrass9881 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Coach Nick argues against stats with “I feel like...” and “I know...”
@bigboythomasjr8211
@bigboythomasjr8211 4 жыл бұрын
Actually he showed evidence that the post is worth it so idk what you're talking about.
@slutmonke
@slutmonke 4 жыл бұрын
he does show evidence, but yeah the wording isn't optimal for making the numbers case.
@chriswalkey2050
@chriswalkey2050 4 жыл бұрын
How does the saying go? Men lie stats don’t
@kenm4390
@kenm4390 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Walkey let’s be real tho, stars mislead all the time
@chiggsytube
@chiggsytube 4 жыл бұрын
@@chriswalkey2050 The saying goes "Stats lie for men like men do."
@dvandeun
@dvandeun 4 жыл бұрын
great backround music ... again !!' 👏👏👏
@dbolt_
@dbolt_ 4 жыл бұрын
small misunderstanding: i think the "value has plummeted" comment was about the post-up in general, not the value of luka in the post great vid as always coach!
@cookiefp
@cookiefp 4 жыл бұрын
pretty sure Carlisle knows what he's talking about moreso than a youtube analyst
@LouisDapilma
@LouisDapilma 4 жыл бұрын
cookiefp arm chair analysis
@anthonyrahner5886
@anthonyrahner5886 4 жыл бұрын
cookiefp this guy 100% knows ab the game of basketball and is a coach and trainer too
@djvibes3704
@djvibes3704 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you acting like nba staff haven't made stupid ass decisions before?
@miguelmacian6760
@miguelmacian6760 4 жыл бұрын
@@djvibes3704 the mavs are the best offense in the league and one of the best ever... I wouldn't say that Carlisle makes stupid decisions when planning his offense...
@djvibes3704
@djvibes3704 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmacian6760 so were the rockets in 2017 and 2018. Some shit looks good on paper but theres just some laws that you gotta follow in the nba and one of the most important is a complex scoring scheme. Adding layers of complexity to an offense is always a good thing. Porzingis would add a huge dimension to his offense if he could become an above average passer out of the post and could somewhat reliably body a smaller defender in the paint as that would inevitably open up more shots for him.
@Turk_2023
@Turk_2023 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the post game.... you can`t rival the excitement of 80s-90s NBA..... All these 3s cause long rebounds and results in bad defense
@jazzchromaticdulcimer4223
@jazzchromaticdulcimer4223 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT video, as usual!
@kubr1ck36
@kubr1ck36 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, coach!
@bobbymcclelland8976
@bobbymcclelland8976 4 жыл бұрын
Love Bballbreakdown’s content but the fact that this needs to be reiterated is crazy. If you only understand basketball 101 you understand the benefits of the ball being entered to the low post, regardless of the efficiency of any given player actually posting up.
@421less1
@421less1 4 жыл бұрын
Or just how unstoppable a center can be. NBA players skill and athleticism make the league itself a phenomenon. In the competitive settings that 95% percent of us get to compete in, if the tallest player on the floor has even decent footwork he"ll be a problem for his opponents.
@PradigyMusicman
@PradigyMusicman 4 жыл бұрын
@@421less1 A new Shaq-Like player will come and change this again
@letmesleepinpeace7052
@letmesleepinpeace7052 4 жыл бұрын
This case is more like a decent coach with amazing players. They make it work because the players are great while plays can be better but not bad.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
Dallas Mavericks coach has always been a curmudgeon. 😀😀😀 Abrasive as all get out. This guy thinks he is fooling somebody, but he is easy to read = you got a bunch of soft Euro-League Players, so you are trying to use finesse. Luka Doncic does majority James Harden step-backs.
@gunnarkoger2259
@gunnarkoger2259 4 жыл бұрын
DeAndre Page sure but he is also one of the best passers in the nba without a question
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
@@gunnarkoger2259 Yes, solid finesse player, so teams should beat him up physically every chance they get. Take a couple of fouls intentionally just to bruise Luka Doncic a little bit. Exploit Doncic's below-average defensive ability.
@gunnarkoger2259
@gunnarkoger2259 4 жыл бұрын
DeAndre Page yeah ig but just labeling him as a ‘solid finesse player’ when he’s dropping 30 point triple doubles every other night it feels a little disingenuous to me
@angelosikolakis7619
@angelosikolakis7619 4 жыл бұрын
@@deandrepage1048 u know who finney smith is? He is a having a career year hitting threes brunson is great as well fucking dwight powell is rebounding like crazy carlile is a great coach and he proved that by watching him in the mavs worse years hell he even had an old ass barea playing great for so long
@shallot1939
@shallot1939 4 жыл бұрын
Coach nick this was awesome thank you for doing this break down of what i have been saying for ever you rock man Also i want to thank you for being an inspiration to me as my goal is to be an NBA coach/commentator and your break down keep my skills sharp and it would mean alot if you able to give me some advice if you see this of course.
@tusukeros06
@tusukeros06 4 жыл бұрын
low post plays provides variety to a team's offense, the best thing it can offer is that it can change the phase of the game, from running a fast phase offense to a slow half court set up which can be beneficial if ur team struggles with shooting 3s and can't produce buckets, most of the best NBA scorers has a low post go to moves, the same with a go to mid range pull up jump shot. even though the game has changed drastically it doesn't mean that low post inside game is not reliable anymore, they can do analytics all they want but a player cannot always hit those 3 points shots. plays from the low post provides many openings,it can be a kick out to the 3, a cut to a team mate in the middle, a back door cut,a score from the low post player, etc. what's good about the kick out 3 from the low post is that the pass can be made and the recipient of the pass has time to balance himself,square up his' shoulder in preparation which increases the chance of making the shot.
@jasonhockly8655
@jasonhockly8655 4 жыл бұрын
A Master move from a quality coach. Take the heat off one of his big guns. And leaving room for surprises for the playoffs.
@Matt-wy6zf
@Matt-wy6zf 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
Golden State Warriors adding Kevin Durant killed it for Centers. A so-called "Death Lineup" with Kevin Durant & Draymond Green as the post players. 😞😞😞 Their speed would force traditional Centers to the bench.
@philipmeisterl
@philipmeisterl 4 жыл бұрын
DeAndre Page yes it just showed a blueprint to beat them
@haonanzhang6759
@haonanzhang6759 4 жыл бұрын
Bring shaq back and both of these would sit on the bench 1st quarter due to 3 early fouls.
@brmo5266
@brmo5266 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video and breakdown
@lovethick
@lovethick 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 4 жыл бұрын
🏀🏀 🙏🙏
@joe32yo
@joe32yo 4 жыл бұрын
The Mavs have one of the best offenses of all time don´t they? Kristaps might be tall, but he can´t back up anybody. He is not a world class shooter, i give you that, but the spacing is working for them. Obviously Carlise knows, that the postup is not obsolete in the game of Basketball, but even if it sometimes generates open shots, it still slows the game down and that is the opposite of what the mavs are going for right know and the wins proof them right. So i am completly on Carlise side when he is "pissed" when guys like Barkley and Shaq tell him how to do his job. There will always be a place for postups, just not like in the "good old days"...because it wont win enough games anymore. Saying that all teams should post up more is a big generalisation and just not true, like nba coaches would just trust some statheads and dont think for themselves :/ sorry had to get that of my chest Happy New Year everybody :)
@keithturner7716
@keithturner7716 4 жыл бұрын
The Mavs are boring to watch who want to watch 3 pointers all game they will never win a championship like that.
@ma1ist
@ma1ist 4 жыл бұрын
Rick defending the guys on his team. like you cant tell me stuff like this doesnt build crazy chemistry.
@siriansight
@siriansight 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you Coach N
@MrMontetowe
@MrMontetowe 4 жыл бұрын
Great break down! Another time to go to the postups is after you have gone four or five possessions in a row with the post open and have missed a combination of threes and drives: change the momentum and rhythm by going to the post up. I also think there needs to be times when Carlisle gets Doncic below the foul line coming off baseline screens like Larry Bird did. He spends too much time standing and watching or trying to post at 25 feet to get the ball back.
@Nelekets
@Nelekets 4 жыл бұрын
I like Rick Carlisle, I feel like he is well deserving of his long tenure in Dallas. However, he often says or does some head scratching things, especially recently. I feel like Coach Nick's points are all valid. Things like passing out of the post, and offensive rebounding can't be overlooked. It's obvious that KP is struggling with his shooting out of the post, his turn around jumper which was solid in NY isn't as reliable right now. I feel like maybe he needs to be more focused on looking for a pass from the post, or putting some more aggressive moves to the basket. You hardly EVER see him spin to the basket and attack the rim, defenders are just sitting on the turn around. Something that made Dirk great for many years was that he would often spin to the basket so the defender couldn't just sit on the fadeaway, and I feel like it's something KP needs to do more often. Get to the free low line more often, and open up more second chance and kick out opportunities. But yeah, posting up KP and Doncic occasionally should be a go to play for the Mavs, not every possession, but it's something that maybe Carlisle doesn't fully realize the statistical values of?
@willhooke
@willhooke 4 жыл бұрын
KP is also probably out of condition physically, as well as being rusty skills wise, after a year off. If KP isn't Posting up more this time next year, then it could be that the Coach doesn't understand the value 👍 I assume KP is being protected this season 😊
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
KP is no dirk tho which is why dirk was great for many years cause of his fadaway shots on the post.
@Nelekets
@Nelekets 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saiputera Agreed, Dirk's iconic move was the one legged fadeaway. However, what made Dirk a consistent scorer was that he got the foul line to shoot free throws often. So, even if his jump shot wasn't on, he could still get a lot of free points just by getting to the foul line. I feel like it's something that KP is lacking, he probably needs to attack the basket a little more.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nelekets KP need to learn to adapt his game tho. Dirk is great for many years cause of his one leg fadeaway shot in the post but sadly that not enough for him to win mutiple championship tho.
@matains88
@matains88 4 жыл бұрын
1) Luka's post-up stats are great exactly because they're so selective about when to post up. 2) Another reason to not post up is injuries and overall wear on players' bodies. Centers live in constant pain.
@gediminaspuskorius1195
@gediminaspuskorius1195 4 жыл бұрын
this video made me subscribe, even tho i constantly watch this chanel
@5wisher5weet
@5wisher5weet 4 жыл бұрын
5:43 he didn’t say the value of the Luka Doncic post up has plummeted. He was referring to the post up in general.
@ky5059
@ky5059 4 жыл бұрын
When KP gets hot, he’s a mix of a PG & Center
@JoelStephens87
@JoelStephens87 4 жыл бұрын
Me trying to read Rick Carlisle's podium: "Ric-canary-isle?" Guy has canary in his name? "[Puerto] Rican Airl...Airlines!" There's no such thing Remembers where this is. "American Airlines" -_-
@tingispingis
@tingispingis 4 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@tingispingis
@tingispingis 4 жыл бұрын
@@aram7863 Thanks captain obvious did you even read his entire comment
@jonathangazala421
@jonathangazala421 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work coach! 2 things: the first is the pounding and punishing of low post defenders. It draws fouls and the physicality takes something out of them. Also the turnover % is usually lower than in drives to the basket. The second is a new post up god named Jaylen Brown. This dude has become a master at the post taking smaller guards down
@milosraic346
@milosraic346 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video...right on the money!!!
@datrandompersononyoutube3061
@datrandompersononyoutube3061 4 жыл бұрын
NBA is literally a 3 point contest now, beauty of the game is gone like pop said
@Zaghzackio
@Zaghzackio 4 жыл бұрын
Idk man it’s still beautiful to me
@artix003
@artix003 4 жыл бұрын
said by the guy who ran a system which basically needs a 3 pt shot for a duncan post up to be effective..
@BuckarooBanzai-
@BuckarooBanzai- 4 жыл бұрын
Idk about you but a post up kick to an open 3 is a beauty to me 🤷🏻‍♂️
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather watch Alley oops, Dunks, Fancy Footwork getting to the basket and throw in some ISO mid range game then teams chucking up 40-50 3pt shots a game. I miss when teams just shot around 20 3pt shots a game instead and used it when they really needed them instead. Plus they actually played some defense
@texchu8331
@texchu8331 4 жыл бұрын
@@MistahJay7 NBA viewership was really low during that era. The general audience didn't like watching low scoring games where big men pounded it out. You might have liked those days, but it didn't bring in the big $$$.
@ImadogGarcia
@ImadogGarcia 4 жыл бұрын
Kristaps needs one year to be himself. Everybody does who misses a hole year.
@acpliego
@acpliego 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always, Coach!
@TheDeezlaweez
@TheDeezlaweez 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid
@Stevesrssrssrs
@Stevesrssrssrs 4 жыл бұрын
They need to move the damn 3-point line out farther like they did in the 90's!!! It was supposed to be a rare and special thing, as basketball is supposed to be a mostly 2-point sport!! So since everyone can hit the 3 now, it's time to move it back so only special great shooters can hit it!!
@millanmixy
@millanmixy 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The game would be much interesting. Less points, better defense! This way with the stupid 3s, it's not even watchable sometimes
@scythermantis
@scythermantis 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who watched Barkley's Suns in the 90's would know how dangerous the post-up can be with the right player.
@doksfrommars
@doksfrommars 4 жыл бұрын
yes, when you could play with your back against the basket for 24 seconds if you wanted to. You know the rules have changed right?
@scythermantis
@scythermantis 4 жыл бұрын
@@doksfrommars The concept is still the same--post up, force a double team, and kick out, or mix it up with cutters to the rim. Lebron has been very effective with this throughout his career.
@ronwilkerson8430
@ronwilkerson8430 4 жыл бұрын
Great content coach
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 4 жыл бұрын
🏀🏀🏀 🙏🙏🙏
@DeMichelePoker
@DeMichelePoker 4 жыл бұрын
This is a simple way to look at it: One player has to try to get into the paint every possession. You can do it like James Harden, driving to the hole from the 3 point line, or you can do it from the post up. Those are two of the very few ways you can do it. Spreading the floor with shooters is great, and it increases team points per possession. But someone has to drive to the hole. And posting up is a legitimate way to get your feet into the paint.
@jeffhardy6333
@jeffhardy6333 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll comfortably watch Rick Carlisle and Mavs get exposed in the first round. Letting Porzingis pull up from the logo like Curry will only get you so far😂
@MrVeryfrost
@MrVeryfrost 4 жыл бұрын
That's what i worry about him. Carlise shortsight or ego might cause Mavs playoffs games.
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
Curry is overrated yo, dude try so hard to be Micheal Jordan. No wonder he didn't want to get traded to other team cause he know he be trash. Hey atless the Mavs back in the playoff 😂
@Legends_KB_KW
@Legends_KB_KW 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree Houston gonna destroy them
@lukeinvictus69
@lukeinvictus69 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking curry isn't an amazing player
@cookiefp
@cookiefp 4 жыл бұрын
yep. the same kinda plebs said the same thing about the Warriors before they went all time. #charles
@TranelHawkins
@TranelHawkins 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Basketball as a simple game.
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 4 жыл бұрын
Don't think that's the point here, or true, but OK.
@RigMaster_
@RigMaster_ 4 жыл бұрын
I've been telling people this for a long time. A god-tier post player will destroy people 1v1 in the post, getting easy buckets under to hoop. And if they get doubled someone is wide open at the 3 point line, getting one of the best shots in basketball. Thank you so much for explaining what I feel like yelling at the screen every time someone says that post-ups are bad or that post play is dead. If anything post play is even more useful now as players are hitting the 3 way better than ever before.
@firestormgaming7584
@firestormgaming7584 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s sad to see how the post up game has gone from legends like Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, etc. and even guards like Jordan being impossible to stop in the post to where it’s almost a lost art form. Lakers and Nuggets demonstrating that size matters this past year so hopefully the league is going to wake up to reality at some point.
@da_jeezuss8922
@da_jeezuss8922 4 жыл бұрын
2020 Make the NBA post up again
@da_jeezuss8922
@da_jeezuss8922 4 жыл бұрын
@16JAM77 or just allow contact from defenders
@da_jeezuss8922
@da_jeezuss8922 4 жыл бұрын
@16JAM77 I think it has more to do with the NBA believing its more exciting to watch, but last years playoffs were out of control. So much leg kicking, and jumping on top of defenders. I think more fans are getting sick of the way they officiate 3 pointers. If you push the 3pt line out further, they will just adapt, but I'd rather see them adapt to contact, whether that means more creative plays, more creative ball handling or just busting shots while the defender is inside their jersey 😂
@deafboricua21
@deafboricua21 4 жыл бұрын
16JAM77 eliminate the corner 3.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
Shaq warned us when they eliminated the Center position from the All-Star Game
@terrellglanton1358
@terrellglanton1358 4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail makes sense after watching the video lol
@versatilethearcane
@versatilethearcane 4 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I've had this argument during pickup games when everyone just hovers around the 3pt line
@shangoat2008
@shangoat2008 4 жыл бұрын
Carlisle is a liar! He posted Luka on Kyrie when they played the Celtics the WHOLE game whenever Luka had a chance...
@Saiputera
@Saiputera 4 жыл бұрын
But it is often? I don't think so.
@bobbyvalentino6773
@bobbyvalentino6773 4 жыл бұрын
Coach, I’m so glad I ran into your channel 😢 When will these 3pt Analy-idiots realize that throwing in the post doesn’t necessarily mean you have to shoot a post -back -to-basket inefficient jump shot... But it’s about controlling the game from the MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR
@jnever9768
@jnever9768 4 жыл бұрын
Over the last month (Feb 2020), Porzingis is averaging 26 points, 10 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 2 blocks while hitting almost 4 3-pointers per game....looks like whatever he's doing is working...
@toddpacker1015
@toddpacker1015 2 жыл бұрын
they couldn't trade him fast enough
@alwayskul
@alwayskul 4 жыл бұрын
there was an art to playing in the post that involved good footwork and sealing the defender so you could get good position underneath the basket and shoot high percentage shots. i miss the spin moves, drop-steps, pivots of post players back when the nba was dominated by them - it's a shame none of those things will come back to the game anytime soon.
@robbratcherii
@robbratcherii 2 жыл бұрын
Same. It makes me sick man.
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