"now you're just sounding like my mother" was comedic gold.
@patriciaburchfield2909Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I know right! 😂😂
@tinydancer7426Ай бұрын
"Now you're just sounding like my mother!" Well, her supervisor keeps reminding her the work group is a family. Hi Mom! Toodaloo!
@alisonmccrady9289Ай бұрын
😂🎉😂
@joeboxter3635Ай бұрын
Now you are just sounding like my twin sister ... lol.
@udontknowmenoАй бұрын
The delivery and the TO DA LOO killed me 😂
@lesliemoiseauthorАй бұрын
That's not "thinking in corporate.". It's "sulking in corporate."
@grannysweetАй бұрын
So f ing true 🎉🎉
@Its-still-anna-alexАй бұрын
Accurate
@melsangelbardАй бұрын
Nop, that's being the proud owner of a C.UNT corporate cup...😂😂😂
@nakishodoglitterfoxАй бұрын
Agreed. And since when do you need approval to work anywhere remote? I thought that was the point of remote work?
@fandomgirl94Ай бұрын
@nakishodoglitterfox And don't CEO's brag about how many deals are made at a golf course?
@benwalter1221Ай бұрын
“Are you at a hotel?” “No, actually this is my guest bedroom.”
@Izabela-ek5nh26 күн бұрын
Omg thanks. I couldn't understand this skit - I thought they were talking in person while working on their laptops the same time and it made so little sense 🤣 my brain is asleep till noon 😖
@bookshelfhoney12 күн бұрын
No I redecorated, but I don't actually love it so I'll probably get it changed back soon 😊
@fluffytail63555 күн бұрын
Exactly. How t f would she know it’s a hotel unless she’s stalking me? It’s my spare room. Don’t ask and I don’t have to lie.
@sampurnapal365214 күн бұрын
yes, I created boundaries like this at my previous job, and then they became extremely toxic towards me and I had to resign!!!
@valiasa-di6hr9 күн бұрын
@sampurnapal3652 exactly, this is the reality, not what these videos are showing! That's why they could be very harmful if someone decides to try their advices
@gingerdad1279 күн бұрын
It's an interesting point, when you create boundaries, you realise that it can be weaponised against you. Unfortunately, resigning was the inevitable option, but it clearly highlighted the awful work environment you were in. Hind sight, you did yourself a favour ❤❤❤
@tiagodagostini6 күн бұрын
There are lots of good companies around. IF workers were less afraid of wuitting and beign clear they they quit because of management practices.. soon these managers would be gone.
@Odium165 күн бұрын
@@valiasa-di6hr you do realize leaving a toxic job trying to exploit you is a good thing, right?
@ArnulfoSalgado5 күн бұрын
@@valiasa-di6hrits harmful to stand up for Yourself and expose your employer as a piece of shit? No man, that’s doing yourself a favor
@sray5415Ай бұрын
I would be like “I have redecorated the guest room. Is that a problem? “ just to see how they would react.
@BoredchinchillaАй бұрын
My SO regularly changes his backgrounds to make it look like he is all over the place. He was in a stable from Breath of the Wild one day, an old timer brothel another. My favorite was the Death Star lol
@chuckemtrad8541Ай бұрын
Close, but I have a better one. "my house is getting fumigated for pests and we needed to be out for three days." Or "My house is being renovated so I rented a hotel to prevent distractions and noise"
@a.cuddle2514Ай бұрын
@@Boredchinchillaoh my god, I want to be his best friend 🤣
@vanillabeanladyАй бұрын
@@Boredchinchilla I tried having fun like this but management had a sour face about it. Guess they want everyone to be as miserable as them.
@thegurw1994Ай бұрын
@@chuckemtrad8541 my sister used to work for a company that had an issue with it. Somehow every neighbour decided to schedule their exterior remodeling, concrete repaving, landscaping work, etc all consecutively! 46 weeks straight of it being too noisy to work from home! Even the city jumped in to repave her street and sidewalks midway. That one was actually legitimate, they discovered a sinkhole before it caused any major damage and so spent six weeks fixing it. But she essentially worked from a new hotel every second week for most of a year.
@DCD762Ай бұрын
I had a boss that demanded that from me once I told him that my contract didn't stipulate that I needed to inform the company everywhere I went. He said that it doesn't state in the contract but I must tell him always because if he didn't approve of certain locations I wished to visit/ travel to, I would be denied to be in that locations during my PTO or time outside my daily schedule I simply told him unless you're believing to be above labour laws I have 0 obligation to notify him where I'd go on my PTO or out of schedule time nor he has the authority to control my off time and location He fired me due to that, and I kept the emails, made a complain against the company, he had to pay me over 400k in compensation damages If memory doesn't fail me, when the court ordered him to pay, he turns to me after the court hearing, and says : " I wasn't serious in firing you, it was just to teach you a lesson to obey your superiors, I had intended to rehire you 1 year after it " I simply answered back : " Yeah, and as you were proved by the judge, the labour laws in this country aren't made based on his wishes and wants nor workers are to accept having their life damaged over his antics "
@tangogolf846Ай бұрын
Funny how he said that AFTER the judgement. You were kinder than me, I would've coughed "bullshit" and walked away.
@granandАй бұрын
That was to save money.. Most probably, the company pays you & fires the manager
@jclyntoledoАй бұрын
I'm a little lost are you using PTO differently because I know that to mean paid time off and I don't understand what paid time off would have to do with you actually working remotely but not at home
@SamuelJamesVideosАй бұрын
Then everyone in the courtroom clapped. That boss that fired you? Jeffery Epstein.
@SN-qd9qwАй бұрын
As if you’d still want to work for him in a year. What a tool.
@julies319Ай бұрын
I think it depends on the company. The company I work for doesn’t allow anyone to work on WiFi, it has to be hardwired internet because we deal with mortgage loans and insurance, and have to minimize risks of being hacked. But if it’s not anything related to sensitive data, I don’t see why you can’t work from anywhere (beyond the tax reasons given)
@Polluticornnn28 күн бұрын
What if you had a vpn?
@robob3ar28 күн бұрын
5g/4g mobile phone connection via usb? I have a flat rate 4g
@Realitygetreal28 күн бұрын
So your telling me they have a "HARDWIRE requirement" but no VPN time to find a new job they will be out of business soon
@DrBrangar28 күн бұрын
That would be an actual policy though. Mine is similar, no public wifi for security reasons.
@julies31928 күн бұрын
We have a VPN for people who work remotely but it’s not secure enough to meet compliance regulations. We deal with millions of loans for about 50 lenders, so we have to keep security tight.
@AD-wx1rtАй бұрын
Treat your good employees like adults…treat the bad ones like children until they learn or you find more adults. My boss knows I roam the world…and she is does it too.
@demonkiler221 күн бұрын
My boss treath me like a Child and i just ignore him if it isnt relevant it anoys him 24/7 but idc lol😂
@shadowhuntress1371Ай бұрын
"What if I need you in the office?" "From where my home is to the office is about 1700 miles away. Are we going to open an expense account for me to fly there?"
@FlashKillerXАй бұрын
Would be nice. I’ve had workplaces make me fly into the office on my own dime nearly every week when I lived over 400 miles away. Safe to say I didn’t stay at that job for long
@shadowhuntress1371Ай бұрын
@@FlashKillerX what are the laws in your area? I'm pretty sure that's illegal
@goku2639Ай бұрын
@@shadowhuntress1371 it’s not when you apply for the job and they tell you it’s not 100% remote
@shadowhuntress1371Ай бұрын
@goku2639 it is legal as long as the commute does not "cause undo hardship upon the employee." It's a tricky area, but, quite a few employment contracts do have clauses for accommodation for travel. Airplane rides aren't part of commutes like trains, buses, and cars.
@elementalgolem5498Ай бұрын
@@FlashKillerXI mean it's a tax deductable though. It evens out in the end. I have my commute reported for tax purposes and get 3000 back every year from deductions
@jeffd5113Ай бұрын
that's micromanaging at it's finest and it's unnecessary
@jessicabuckley1221Ай бұрын
Not really. If the hotel is across state lines the company is now bound to labour law where you are physically working. And if you've crossed into. Stare like California that gas some wildly different laws... Problems. The company needs to have a policy about it's okay to stay local but you need to get permission to be somewhere outside the normal boundaries. Heck I worked remote for a company in a different county. I could work in my home county and in the corp. County but nowhere else. They had to fix payroll so that my taxes were deducted for the right location. Because my county rate was different. If I had moved and they couldn't make it work I'd have stopped being remote.
@nil3552Ай бұрын
@@jessicabuckley1221 if you watched the entirety of the video, she does mention she's not staying somewhere else long enough to affect taxes.
@AndrewSBakerАй бұрын
@@jessicabuckley1221- it takes a number of days before a location becomes a nexus for tax purposes.
@tonyageorge8972Ай бұрын
Exactly 😂
@tonyageorge8972Ай бұрын
@@AndrewSBakerexactly
@StaceyGlawe-hm9js14 күн бұрын
The boss is a control freak bully. I love the way the employee handles it.
@alexalexandrov9684Ай бұрын
One issue that could arise is public wifi is notoriously not safe if your working with proprietary let alone confidential things you shouldn’t be on wifi networks that aren’t your own
@namy-fluidАй бұрын
Yeah and I think these policies exist to keep client data safe. Not to restrict the employee 😭
@lisahines532Ай бұрын
Yes, I was going to say this is also true for some jobs. I am a therapist and have to be careful which WiFi networks I connect from. But also, there are all kinds of extra hoops I have to go through if I am out of the country. Otherwise, they could care less where I work from when I am remote.
@realistpassing934Ай бұрын
A company laptop should always have a VPN in use anyway. This protects even on at home WiFi However, the concern of private info that others can physically see is more of a problem for public places. And still there are steps to reduce the issue of privacy - working with a screen guard, choosing a more out of the line of eyesight etc.
@DrRusty5Ай бұрын
VPN and/or cellular connection avoids the risks of using a public WiFi network.
@b.julienetodd9392Ай бұрын
That's a big leap. If you haven't changed the password on your home wifi that's not secret either. My job has a VPN so if you're submitting private docs it should never be on public wifi.
@Jaymac720Ай бұрын
Home is where the WiFi is
@elenabob4953Ай бұрын
Not in Europe where you need to declare it because if an accident happens during working hours or in your way to and from the office it is considered a work related incident.
@lynneanderson4255Ай бұрын
@elenabob4953 - Wow! That's because Europeans care about their employees. In the U.S. if you get into an accident on the way to work, tough luck, thoughts and prayers. It will not be considered work related. Therefore, in the U.S., home is where the WiFi is.
@darkbut8864Ай бұрын
@@elenabob4953 not to say diferent taxes from contry to contry, so yeah you need to be at home were you declare you work remote
@CyberFlare-fn9knАй бұрын
@@darkbut8864in the video she said it wasn’t enough time for that to be an issue
@Jaymac720Ай бұрын
@@elenabob4953she’s at a desk all day. Not much room for incidents, and if they do occur, it’s not the company’s fault. I believe in company accountability, but if you did it to yourself, then they have nothing to be accountable for
@MarshaLove0723Ай бұрын
😂 If camera is on, then backdrop is up. Always. That way there is no suspicious 'Why can't I see your background today, when I can normally see it?' They can't force you to not use one of those and show your home. I once watched a bunch of people ask questions about someone's home background - musical instruments, pictures, books on the shelf - and thought, 'Not my home, you nosy people..."
@StressKindАй бұрын
In case my home is tidy, I dont mind showing it and I like it if other people do that. Shows that we are all humans and not just worker drones
@rebekahjimenez2808Ай бұрын
I'm proud of my home and don't mind showing it off.
@timonix2Ай бұрын
I think they can here. Because they are responsible for your work environment even if you work from home.
@faredceАй бұрын
@@timonix2then they are responsible for my morning coffee and the electricity I'm using while I'm at home (which they should be)
@AshiStarshadeАй бұрын
@faredce electricity maybe, coffee is not required for the work.
@tabithawilks4434Ай бұрын
As an HR professional, it usually comes down to the circumstances. For example, let’s say you are not taking a vacation; If you travel to a foreign country where it is common to lose access to internet required for your work, it can potentially have a negative impact on your work, your team’s productivity, failure to meet deadlines, and so on. On the other end of this spectrum, we have an employee who wants to work from a library, Starbucks, or similar place. Productivity and availability may not be an issue, but risking confidential information being seen by passersby or exposed over an unsecured connection can be devastating as well. My point is that all facts must be considered in these situations. Not everyone is capable of working remotely - if distractions are too great and affect productivity, they can be required to return to the office, or risk termination for poor performance. If you approach things factually and logically, issues are less likely to occur.
@julieannmyers87147 күн бұрын
No one likes the kind of people self-selected for HR BS to devote their waking life... good example why. Glad I'm retired... they used to be slimy... apparently, now they're self-declared demi-gods who were formerly paralegals. Geezus.
@deshyvin3 күн бұрын
If security and production are not affected though, then mind your own business.
@SugarSugarCreekАй бұрын
Isn't it interesting how corporate's first inclination is that somebody is working from a hotel room because they are taking time off. There are a number of reasons to be in a hotel room not related to relaxing etc. Damage to ones home, be it storm/hurricane, in Florida, you can spring a slab leak, maybe a loud remodel is happening where contractors are at your home running equipment. Maybe a family member is receiving treatment for an illness and the employee has been advised to leave temporarily to avoid potential germ risks. Maybe it's Thursday or Friday and the employee is attending an out of town wedding, where they are able to complete work easily during their work hours, but arrived a day or 2 early because of flight limitations or planned activities, like the rehearsal dinner in the evening, not during work hours. If the employee is by contract, cleared to work remotely, their work is adequately being performed, it really isn't corporate's business.
@fluffytail63555 күн бұрын
During a heat wave here, a lot of people didn’t have air conditioning at home so people who worked remotely moved into a hotel room to work (and sleep!) comfortably
@TheChamp789Ай бұрын
Years ago I worked for a company where we took turns being on call, so as to monitor the machines that operated 24/7. In case something happened with one of them, the on-call person was to go to the office and fix the problem. I lived about an hour and a half from the office, so it would be a bit of a trip to go in if needed, but that was part of my job. One weekend, my wife and I decided to take a weekend vacation to the city where the machines were located. We found a very nice hotel about five minutes from the office. I was naive enough to tell my boss about my upcoming trip, and he told me that I couldn't go, that I needed to stay home in case something happened to one of the machines!
@HariSeldon913Ай бұрын
I had a similar situation where there was a company that would have time critical data sometimes and they paid a premium to have my department on call so they could have the results back within an hour or so and we still used pagers. One time I was just leaving a store down the street from the office and the pager went off. I went straight in and called the customer back. He asked how long until I got to the office and didn't want to believe me when I said I was already there.
@shireads2954Ай бұрын
What a freaking idiot. I sweat some of these managerial positions have a maximum IQ requirement of 80.
@TalesFromTheShadowsАй бұрын
That's some Grade A stupid right there. Common sense was apparently not a requirement for his position...
@TheChamp789Ай бұрын
@@TalesFromTheShadows You hit the nail on the head with that comment!
@taylorjade6918Ай бұрын
That's when you "cancel" the trip 😅
@thefishingpolАй бұрын
In other corporate words: we pay you, we own you, we wanna control you.
@goku2639Ай бұрын
I mean, you applied there
@Jedislayer19Ай бұрын
@goku2639 don't you have some boots to polish? If you've got time to type, you've got time to lick.
@thefishingpolАй бұрын
@@goku2639 no where in an application or contract does it say that if given the job, they own my life. If it says work hours 9-5 then that's all they're getting. To expect more beyond their description,they are the ones breaking that contract
@7.3PSDA2Ай бұрын
Yes but theres a work/home status that is usually agreed up when starting the job.
@edithflores2015Ай бұрын
Why did I read this as if a group of cheerleaders was shouting it?
@TheRealLetterTee2 күн бұрын
I really liked the attention to tax detail. Remote employees often have differences pertaining to taxes that are very important to an employer. That said, none of those tax purposes involve, "i'm the employer and I want to control your life."
@Michi953117 күн бұрын
I’m a member of the Executive team at our company and I literally don’t care where people work from or how long they work as long as they’re available for meetings or text comms during our business hours (which we are not meeting heavy outside of one team), and as long as their KPIs are met 🤷🏽♀️ granted, I have a high degree of trust and confidence in every member of our team which is small (
@petestevenson1004Ай бұрын
If an employer allows their employees to work remotely and put it in their contract, then the employer by definition cannot, and most not, expect them to come to the office at a moment's notice. If you need someone in the office at all times, then make arrangements for that ahead of time, or hire some ppl as in-office personnel. Simple, sorted, done. But apparently that makes too much sense lol.
@wjmackenzie955Ай бұрын
If the solution makes sense and actually works, corporate will likely do the opposite. But not always, with corp-rats, it's not actually about results, it's about power and control.
@Sylvestre6598Ай бұрын
Well, not sure how it works in the US, but in most of Europe, because of insurance policies, if you are supposed to be working from Home, you need to be at Home. You cannot work from another location. Well you could, but you would be liable for any faults happening to you or your work (Accidents, data breach, yadi yada)
@laurenarigo3894Ай бұрын
Some industries require you to be able to arrive at the office any time even on weekends within two hours to take drug tests.
@1restingwitchfaceАй бұрын
In some cases, they can. That is why WFH is treated as a flexibility accorded to employees, with some restrictions. Apart from social security or insurance policies, there could be an emergency that requires an employee to be on site within a reasonable time frame. It happens very rarely, but employers need to cover all bases.
@julieannmyers87147 күн бұрын
@1restingwitchface you are aware that you sound insane, right?
@kelseycrosen9637Ай бұрын
My thoughts are that managers who care about that can suck it. "Quiet vacation" if my work is being done correctly and on time, then it's no one's business as to where I'm doing it.
@RequiemPoeteАй бұрын
Although making sure your location doesn't change your tax situation is something I wouldn't have considered
@lineseyaetherАй бұрын
@@RequiemPoeteits taxes and also labor laws. generally speaking the worker is covered by the taxes and labor laws of the state *they* are in. not the employer. for example, if someone was hired by an oregon company, who at the time lived in oregon, then they are covered under Oregon laws. if they move to California, they are now under cali laws (and tax bs), and the company can get in trouble for violating cali labor laws. obviously the theory behind this is to prevent companies in states with few to no labor laws, having all their remote employees bound to those lesser laws, but it absolutely creates headaches if an employee changes states without telling the employer. it’s also why some smaller employers that allow remote work, will not accept applicants from certain states, or even out of state at all, as it adds the overhead of multiple state’s laws.
@raixiraАй бұрын
@@lineseyaetherIt's my understanding that applicable labor and tax laws change after a period of time. So an employed can't just hop a state border and different laws suddenly apply with respect to their employment. But maybe I've misunderstood.
@RequiemPoeteАй бұрын
@lineseyaether But surely that only applies to living in said state. Obviously, if I go on a business trip across state lines, my taxes don't change. I have to assume a weekend work vakay is the same.
@donovandelozier7156Ай бұрын
@@RequiemPoeteif you live in new york but work in person in new jersey, new jerseys laws take precedent. For remote work I think it isn't where you live that decides it but where you do the majority of your work from that dictates what state laws apply. If that understanding is accurate a company tracking how much time you spend in a given state is reasonable.
@deldrinov20 күн бұрын
As IT / security, I think I just popped a blood vessel.
@DomwpiemonteАй бұрын
It’s amazing how you handle this conversations. I quit corporate because of this.
@AlineGOliveira3 күн бұрын
🖤⛑Some abusive famillies also worst than that🧤🧿
@himitsu3000716 сағат бұрын
@@AlineGOliveirawhen you have both it's the worst by far
@laroybell3313Ай бұрын
This woman and Veronika are teaching us how to handle crazy bosses 😂
@jclyntoledoАй бұрын
Oh my gosh Veronica is my favorite
@amandamurray616Ай бұрын
Is Veronica another youtuber?
@joebrowser775Ай бұрын
@@amandamurray616yes, look up “customer service academy” or “veronica customer service” and you’ll find her
@Moosetick2002Ай бұрын
@@amandamurray616 Sometimes, this is Veronica
@user1.2__.__Ай бұрын
Who is Veronica?
@susanking3974Ай бұрын
When my dad had major surgery, my bosses were so great about having me work from his house while helping him during recovery. They are family men who totally understood.
@kayladawson6871Ай бұрын
That sounds like a great working relationship where they support your needs and you don’t take advantage of that flexibility.
@mattconwАй бұрын
Tax lawyer here. Technically its not just prolonged period. Significant activities and repeated brief trips (even if by multiple employees) can give rise to nexus
@LilyMac049Ай бұрын
“Absolutely not that’s breach of my personal privacy, and if you ask again I’ll be speaking with HR”
@Persainlady28 күн бұрын
Normally HR supports the employers. After all they are get paid by the employers .
@NyoshaM23 күн бұрын
@@PersainladyHR's obligation to deal with work relationships, if that manager is beyond its authority. Even if it's the company policy ideally HR should negotiate about it, as HR is responsible for retaining an employee.
@ginavanfleet5386Ай бұрын
I saw someone say once: “anytime you’re not looking at your employee they might as well be working remotely” exactly! If you have enough time to watch me then you don’t do enough for the company. If you don’t have time to keep eyes on me then why does it matter if I’m in the office or at home? I’ll get my work done regardless. If I underperform then you can fire me. Trust me, I won’t.
@pinkbiohazardmercurialcoll7133Ай бұрын
They just jealous they didn't think of working elsewhere in a place of comfort...
@CaptainSoftboy501Ай бұрын
Fr!!! I was thinking that!!
@CaptainSoftboy501Ай бұрын
I bet they gotta stay in the office 🤣🤣🤣
@jane-fw4nhАй бұрын
This is why teacher and people who HAVE to be in a work place should get paid considerably more.
@JBuckley1997Ай бұрын
Honestly the informing them that you aren't within distance to come to the office is valid.
@McBehrerАй бұрын
"well how do we know you're actually working?" "well, is my work getting done?" "yes..." "then that's how you know."
@bcase5328Ай бұрын
She isn't getting paid for her off hours. Her on hours are producing. The "vacation" is solely being acted upon during off hours. Her work isn't paying for any "vacation".
@allalala9916Ай бұрын
A neighbor of mine works for a company on the other coast of the USA. She has been here for two years now with zero issues. Visited her old state for the first time this month to see her family.
@queenbey6678Ай бұрын
That's a totally different story and she definitely had to get approval if moving to another state. That's not the same as going on a little vacay and logging in from the beach.
@transformativegreenspacest1898Ай бұрын
I think those were the tax consequences mentioned in the skit would come into play
@allalala9916Ай бұрын
I am not sure about all the details but she does patient information for a hospital and they live off of one income because housing is much cheaper where I live
@schnitzelsemmelАй бұрын
In Germany they would just say: "It's for insurance reasons"
@MerryWonderland2 күн бұрын
I was told that any time i worked elsewhere that i had to inform her or HR in case they needed to do an emergency check-in, and they visit my house and find im not there.... i could've laughed. I work for the government, btw lol
@colleennikstenas4921Ай бұрын
The only time it might be an issue is if an incident occurs at your location that might require insurance or worker’s comp.
@loadsotroubleforyouАй бұрын
I think the rules for that change for all remote work anyway, so the location won't matter
@Esztibaba5Ай бұрын
It does if you're not working from a location approved (an thus insured) by your company. At least that's how Hungarian law is interpreted at our company. You can ask permission for locations other than your home as well, as long as those also fill the minimum requirements set by the company policy.
@amyeff7279Ай бұрын
Is Loe Canadian or American?
@loadsotroubleforyouАй бұрын
@@amyeff7279 Canadian
@bigmachine911Ай бұрын
@@Esztibaba5def not how it works in the US
@cliffcorson4000Ай бұрын
Depending on the work itself it could be considered a security concern
@TheBTАй бұрын
Exactly, the answer is ‘it’s complicated’
@SuraxАй бұрын
I work with confidential info (personal client data) and it is definitely a security concern. Our IT department has setup our laptops so that they can't connect to our network if they're outside of the country.
@noobgoestrapping5084Ай бұрын
@@Suraxhowever all of that should be outlined in company policy. If it isn't there it's fair game.
@cliffcorson4000Ай бұрын
@@noobgoestrapping5084 not as simple as that In some cases individuals have access to items that can be harmful to a business, yet they are needed by that individual as part of a remote access. In order to limit exposure a business would need to lay out a whole list of rules and exceptions to those rules As an example, I work as a service technician for a restaurant group. In that capacity I have remote access to all the stores in the company. That access allows me to "see" a number of systems in the stores as part of it. I can do remote checks/service on various systems including purchasing and stocking systems. In that I am requires to use a specific program that requires authentication at various and random times as part of the security.
@koenven7012Ай бұрын
@@noobgoestrapping5084 true, and given the security (or lack thereof) on some home networks, I would be very reluctant to allow WFH for those kinds of things. A decent business hotel probably has better security on their network than a lot of people have at home (or at least it should).
@takakupoАй бұрын
The way we've fought and lost so much ground in for workers in 2024 is just tragic. Thank you for making content that is pro worker
@CW-wt3bj3 күн бұрын
In Germany that has to do with insurance issues - it has not only to do with tax purposes. This is why it is important for the company to know where the work location is. Otherwise the employee is not insured in case something happens (e.g. an accident) and both, the employer and the employee would get into trouble.
@Thephoenixrebirth84Ай бұрын
I love all of this videos. Unfortunately none of this conversations can truly take place without being called insubordinate or being fired
@misspriss2482Ай бұрын
This. That is what all of these cute KZfaq skits have in common. They don't work in the real world. You would be fired.
@KennylotrАй бұрын
I remember that our HR told me that It could have complications for the accident insurance if something happens when an employee does home office in a different country (outside of Switzerland).
@carolineg3079Ай бұрын
Also tax issues and needing a work visa
@alltamarr28 күн бұрын
At least this makes sense.
@mowgli20712 күн бұрын
One easy way to never let them know is simply to buy 4 flat sheets. Tack one up on the wall with thumbtacks and have that be your backdrop. When it needs to be washed, take it down and replace it with one of the other three that are clean. Do that everywhere you go. For seating use a folding camp chair. Use this chair everywhere you go. Use the same folding camp table for your laptop support, everywhere you go. And so on...
@karapirolo9052Ай бұрын
I can just say that in EU and countries who have agreements now with the EU are super strict to having people working from anywhere (outside of the country you have a contract in)... It's annoying, YES! Annoying paperwork, YES! And companies need to comply...
@gingerbeardzaАй бұрын
In South Africa, some companies use the reason "if you get hurt at a location other than was authorised then the company would be liable and that is their concern" so they ask us to first get email confirmation before working from wherever . Other reason is the data on our laptops are also at risk of being exposed, especially if working in a public location.
@whtalt92Ай бұрын
There are plenty of solutions for the latter reason.
@3182johnАй бұрын
That’s why savvy and smart IT professionals utilize VPNs
@nunuvyerbiznessАй бұрын
The latter reason is how a NATO General compromised sensitive information over an insecure hotel wi-fi. @@whtalt92
@randomaccount8001Ай бұрын
It actually depends. With my dad they aren't worried much if he is within the same state and on a secure provate network, but if he goes out of state or especially out of country because it is a security concern. I guess this depends on where you work, but this is a genuine concern for some companies. I still agree with most points made in this , just gotta be careful.
@caesarion1399Ай бұрын
How would it be a security concern out of state, I get if it is put of the country. Unless in something critical like military.
@alexweigelАй бұрын
@@caesarion1399 insurance incase anything happens. The company might only have insurance for one particular State.
@FoxyfloofJumpsАй бұрын
@@caesarion1399 Not all states have the same legal standards for encryption or wifi security. Also, some hotels and many public locations have non-existent security against phishing, middleman, and echoing attacks.
@Coral_ForeverАй бұрын
This is a flaw with the insurance system. @@alexweigel
@jclyntoledoАй бұрын
I don't think they have to let the job know as most job descriptions and contracts will say they have to do their job in that state specifically if they are working remotely
@hasufinheltain1390Ай бұрын
A remarkable amount of corporate policy is about domination rather than revenue.
@zaphodbeeblebrox1880Ай бұрын
This goes back longer than I can remember. Employee does something, management does not like it, but they realize there are no rules against it. They try the old "because I said so" or "because I'm the boss", in an attempt to intimidate the employee. The issue gets sent to HR, Legal, or some such department, and after a certain period of time, a mass e-mail gets sent out that starts with "It has come to our attention...".
@johnwrclintonАй бұрын
I agree that the employer shouldnt have any concern about the location from which you work. But...the "prolonged period" for tax purposes is pretty much measured in days - i.e., CA wants workers to pay taxes whenever that worker is in their state. But other than keeping Payroll informed, nobody else needs to care what your location is.
@bngr_bngrАй бұрын
Some states consider one day others as much as 30 days. An employee might end up filling out multiple tax returns or in some cases being doubled taxed.
@ZiggyGrokАй бұрын
IIUC, it does get sticky if you work in a state where your company doesn't already do business. That can incur real costs to get that straightened out, apparently
@stephiebellaАй бұрын
Not just CA. Lots of states have similar rules.
@mreese8764Ай бұрын
Never ever entering NYC and for sure not sleeping there seems important
@sydneyharbour-bridges8090Ай бұрын
Who does this? No one who brings their laptop so they can leave a few days earlier for vacation is going to pay taxes in that state.
@tomcavanaugh5237Ай бұрын
Your videos awaken unpleasant repressed memories.
@TracyKMainwaring9 күн бұрын
My husband works for a govt department and it was written into their last contract that they must be able to get to their office within 30min if working remotely. Most of the staff can't even do that ever. No one can afford to live where the office is.
@haltinghexesАй бұрын
this makes me grateful to be at the company i’m at. stop babysitting adults man. love ur vids btw
@elenabob4953Ай бұрын
In Europe it is a problem because if something happens to you it is considered work related so you need to declare from where you are working from.
@abryn6864Ай бұрын
That's true of any remote work though.
@DebilinsideАй бұрын
This is not true. Companies say its an EU law, but its BS. Companies are responsible for providing you with a safe work if you job has to be performed in specific locations, but if you have a hybrid contract or permanent WFH contract its your responsibility. If you are SENT somewhere or traveling for business purposes thats an entirely different story.
@sheriffzebedeeАй бұрын
@@Debilinside🎯🎯🎯
@ForgottenKnight1Ай бұрын
For contractors, at least, there are no such laws.
@karmas8864Ай бұрын
Answer in tears and sobs while muttering something that would tug at the heart strings. Like, "house... fire... dog... died... saved my work laptop... for your convenience." I don't have it in me to work in corporate environments. 😂
@damianwright3690Ай бұрын
If I didn't like the job that much, in the case of a fire I'd save everything important and sacrifice the laptop to the gods of "how did that get there?"
@starfox5165Ай бұрын
if that happened to me, she would immediately be receiving: ‘working from the garden’ ‘got cold, working from my desk’ ‘got hot, working from the garden’ for as long as it takes for her to give up
@krazykalyn1746Ай бұрын
My mom moved out of state but still works for a hospital in minnesota as a scheduler and payroll. She absolutely can not just choose to work wherever she pleases because of security concerns. She has to work from her house, or if she flies to minnesota, goes to the office. So there are companies that just because you're remote, you can't just go wherever you please with private company information at your disposal for any random at a hotel to try and hack into
@TheBTАй бұрын
There are insurance and security risks in some roles for working away from registered locations, but it is complicated.
@kristakammerer4632Ай бұрын
I work with HIPAA sensitive data as long as there is a password on the wifi I work through a double secure VPN it doesn't matter where.
@GMMedicАй бұрын
Sounds like just another lame excuse to me! Issue them a VPN password token and call it a day.
@jacobg8640Ай бұрын
@@GMMedic It's actually a legit concern for certain industries with specific rules and regulations regarding data protection. A VPN isn't always sufficient.
@RosePhantomaАй бұрын
it can, in certain lines of work, be a security issue, so I'm mixed on this. on the one hand, you are getting your work done. on the other, if your supervisor is concerned about security, that's a different story. also my work setup is more than a laptop so I'm stuck at home anyway 😅
@suhaniselamatАй бұрын
If it's a security issue, then it should have been written down as a policy ahead of time. Not questioned out of nowhere upon seeing the employee with a different background.
@fspamssАй бұрын
You'd probably find the security issue in a different section about what kind of networks you can connect your work machine to rather than where you physically are
@suhaniselamatАй бұрын
@@fspamss and thus, the question a boss should ask upon seeing a different background is about the network you're connected to, not arguing about needing you at home in case you need to come back to the office. I worked with sensitive data 10 years ago. We literally had only desktops at the office tied to landlines and in the event we couldn't come in to the office, we'd sign out paper files and use pre-agreed upon code words for online meetings. I don't know if it was just security theater or effective security, but it was laid out ahead of time and staff knew that if they weren't at the office, any data leaks were on their heads and they'd better take precautions. Security is something that should be proactively drummed into employees on a regular basis, not a single line in an obscure it manual.
@ArtCE47Ай бұрын
I could never!! My company just wants a 24HR notice if we leave the country, so IT can alter settings.
@LightStorm.Ай бұрын
“Send a email to HR about employer asking about personal information”
@jojoaugustus1383Ай бұрын
I don't know if it's the same in the US or Canada, but in France, it's technically forbidden because of insurance policies. If you get hurt at work, your company's insurance will cover it, if you get hurt at home - while working, during working hours - your company's insurance will cover it, since they allow you to work from home. However, if you're elsewhere, well, that it's not covered, but your company can still be in trouble. Hence the fact that they most likely won't let you work elsewhere. Now, that's only on paper. Most companies don't care
@theChistuАй бұрын
And that's why we put the background filter up on the video call.
@wolflinggon5664Ай бұрын
You’d be surprised how many companies don’t allow those. My husband took an emergency video call from his boss while we were on vacation at the beach. The boss didn’t believe he wasn’t using a filter
@MarshaLove0723Ай бұрын
We are not using cameras at this point, but that's one of the reasons I have a physical backdrop available.
@mi16tАй бұрын
Yep, you have to be aware of this and set the expectation. For example, the best thing to do is always use a white wall behind you with no other defining details. White walls are easy to find.
@BrutalNeko9640Ай бұрын
That's fine except if you go to a different country because of tax implications for a company. Some countries have employee safekeeping laws that don't apply if you're outside of the country 😅
@ForeverRancorАй бұрын
This was my experience as a case manager. My supervisor also told me to add and specify all my NON WORK activities in the company schedule, and when I did, she demanded I come into the office on my apartment move-out date so I could work on notes. Never again.
@catstreat9434Ай бұрын
Our company does require your remote location to be private to you, lockable, and have no distractions, and they can audit your location at any time. So unfortunately our remote peeps DO have to let mgmt know if we aren't going to be working from home, and it is policy. But it's a fair trade for not having to go into the office IMPO.
@sydneyharbour-bridges8090Ай бұрын
So you can’t go to the local library if the internet in your house?
@AnarexicSumoАй бұрын
@@sydneyharbour-bridges8090 No, and you wouldn't want to anyway. Public networks are horrendously insecure and you're just inviting a breach that WILL be traced back to you. Better to enjoy a day off.
@lenaruibinaАй бұрын
Feels like parents or pet owners can't work in your company because of the "have no distractions" rule :)
@margosaurАй бұрын
@@AnarexicSumoany company worth the paper its incorporation articles are printed on will have an encrypted VPN to connect to company files
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
If you live in a reasonable proximity to the office, it’s not at all unreasonable for an employer to expect to be notified if you are working out of range where you could make it in, as they reserve the right to call you into the office for a variety of reasons. It’s also just basic respect for your employer to keep them informed when you are traveling as this can have other impacts on your ability to work.
@deeps6979Ай бұрын
So, you *do* have the terms of your WFH agreement detailed out, or at least you should. There's security issues that could come up that may need approval or solutions first. That in mind, I like how the first question is "Where is that in the policy?" Which, lol, did not have a satisfactory answer. XD
@gordonm2821Ай бұрын
Lots of companies don’t have a WFH agreement. Security does not really come in to it. Your VPN connection is moving your desk further away from the office. Main issue is trust.
@corylcreatesАй бұрын
I have a remote-only job and the only requirement is stable internet connection. Any security concerns are handled with the online workspace we use, not my device location.
@GrigeralАй бұрын
@@gordonm2821 do you have any idea how few companies actually use vpn for standard staff? I've had staff connect to public wifi, get hit by a watering hole attack and bring malicious actors onto our network. It's absolutely a problem...
@GrigeralАй бұрын
@@corylcreatesthe difference there is remote. Contractually, you can have either WFH or remote. One allows for this more naturally, the other does not
@Mr__VАй бұрын
My mother works at a bank and had an employee who was a partial wfh partial in office. He kept traveling around and causing issues with the log in security always tripping IT protocol cause his approved IP kept changing due to him being at hotels, friends houses ect. Depending on the confidentiality of your work, security does impose more strict protocols about where you are connecting from.
@hannahdivic28Ай бұрын
Just had this exact conversation with my boss during a remote work week. I called in to the first project briefing at a location other than my home. Was taken off of the project. Insane
@TwoswordsdrizztАй бұрын
The ONLY reason corporate has at all to be involved in where you work would be security, and in cases like that, they most likely wouldn't hire people to work from home.
@DaddyBeanDaddyBeanАй бұрын
We interviewed a guy who said he lived in Phoenix, for a 100% remote position. When we hired him a few weeks later, he lived in LA. A few weeks after that, trying to work out a good meeting time for our east coast employees plus this guy on the west coast, he said "oh, no, not a problem, I live in Virginia." Seems his wife is a traveling nurse and he just travels with her, working from the hotel wherever they land. This is a nightmare for payroll, withholding state taxes appropriately, and impossible on a federal government contract, as they assign hardware from the depot nearest to where the contractor lives - if the contractor moves, they have to turn in their equipment at one site and draw new from another. He talked himself right out of the job anyway, as he let slip he had been traveling all day on a certain day when his timesheet showed 8 hours working. Fired for wage theft.
@swansuzАй бұрын
I find travel days are often excellent days to get work done, especially if it involves transiting airports with lots of layover time or long-distance flights. Or working while someone else is driving. Or sitting on a train or bus between cities. Creative managers would see that.
@DaddyBeanDaddyBeanАй бұрын
@@swansuz They didn't arbitrarily fire him, bang, done - there were other issues already, other red flags, and when a manager noticed his timesheet said 8 hours but he mentioned traveling all day, they asked him if he had really worked 8 hours... and he admitted he had done no work at all. It was the last straw.
@brycepattiesАй бұрын
If the ability to be physically in the office with little to no notice is a necessary part of the job, you should be informed of that when you take the job, and it should be a company policy.
@dirano09Ай бұрын
There are so many reasons (beyond vacations) to be in a hotel room instead of your home. Family emergency, fumagation, home damages, medical needs, etc. None of those require approval, and some are protected by HIPPA, and frankly it is none of the company's business unless in literally effects the business itself.
@tawa3669Ай бұрын
From a safety perspective, should your boss know when your in a different location? I understand that wasn't the takeaway from this specific skit. But from an oh&s pov, if you're injured away from home but during work hours, then it would be difficult to claim workers' compensation.
@susanwoodbridge7967Ай бұрын
When I worked in an office I was covered by their insurance policy. There are some complex legal issues, apart from tax, to be considered from a safety pov. Part of the wfh situation includes the worker agreeing that certain minimum safety conditions are met. It’s one of those things that people often don’t think about until they need support - then they realise that HR is there to protect the company, not them.
@sapajulАй бұрын
In my country this would be a huge issue for several reasons insurance and IP protection are two of the main.
@swtlisaАй бұрын
There are ways to use authentication practices and secure logins. Some companies just don't want to make the effort.
@JT4NN3RАй бұрын
@@swtlisa That still doesn't protect the remote device. It's a costly, and hazardous effort that exists for the soul purpose of making employees happy.
@sapajulАй бұрын
@@swtlisa Sure, that doesn't fix the insurance issue. Here is mandatory for companies to have a insurance for all its workers, and that insurance company usually demands to have a control environment for every work place, so changing locations requires a verification from the safety team, no mater the time.
@brandenkappes2946Ай бұрын
My favorite story like this was a guy asked “hey can I travel around Europe while I work?” “No. You’re a subcontractor for the Department of Defense you have to be state side” *a few months later, at a 10am meeting* “Why is it night outside your window?”
@margaretcarterjazzsinger233Ай бұрын
In Europe, employers provide insurance for employees. If you are injured going to or from work, the employer is responsible.
@TheMrMusedАй бұрын
"My location is currently in front of my laptop, working, as expected and compensated for. Should you desire my geographic location, that's far, FAR above your pay grade. Actually, that's above EVERYONE'S pay grade."
@sheriffzebedeeАй бұрын
Absolutely 🎯
@ObiwanNekodyАй бұрын
It can be a major problem for businesses. They have to follow the labor laws of where the person works. If you move your working location without letting them know, they may end up in legal hot water.
@cfurrow2468Ай бұрын
As I work it for a large company, you should still let them know as it could cause remote access issues if we find you logging in from somewhere else. It will likely be seen as a hacker and your account will get locked down.
@AC00009Ай бұрын
I literally asked my boss this question today, and he said I could work from the moon as long as my job got done.
@cjraymond7216Ай бұрын
My company does actually require we report a 2nd work location and get approval to work elsewhere. But I would 100% agree if no policy to this was in place.
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
It’s also just generally respectful to your employer to make them aware of situations where you are not working from your usual location. Like same city different house likely doesn’t matter for most remote workers, but out of country, yeah.
@cjraymond7216Ай бұрын
@@Kyt2024 a lot of times it's because they need to know where their property is. If you have a company laptop with company information on it, they may want to control where you can take it and what networks you can connect it to. I work for a State Government and we aren't allowed to take state property out of the country and Management is strongly discouraged from approving us to take it outside of the state for non-state business. Also, if you go missing, your employer is going to be one of the people they ask about where you last were and the last time you logged into work. It can be helpful in those situations for them to know where you are.
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
@@cjraymond7216100% valid. I work for a bank and it’s very similar
@ALrineaАй бұрын
Screw corperate! That is the exact reason, I became self-employed!
@ZinethaАй бұрын
My workplace doesn't care, as long as the work gets done. Remote workdays are rare and if you don't do the work you're supposed to during that time, it shows. If they have to cancel your remote day because they're short on staff, they need to inform you at least a couple days prior.
@dddeoxysАй бұрын
My dad had this happen in the last company he worked with - he works half in field and half at home, and he travelled about two hours from home one day for a personal thing, and answered a video call from work in obviously a hotel. Boss was mad and said "well what if I need you in the office?" Dad said "Im closer to the office where I am right now than if I were at home" and they shut up after that. Company actually went under a few months after
@BigHeadClanАй бұрын
A lot of companies IT departments block remote access if you are outside the country, so in some cases yes you do actually need to let them know ahead of time if you are travelling to other countries.
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
100%. It’s also just generally respectful and professional to inform your manager.
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
This entire situation and her unprofessional responses could have been avoided by giving a simple heads up that she will be traveling but still working.
@afckingegg7585Ай бұрын
@@Kyt2024why does my boss need to know my location at all times?
@spoonierv1543Ай бұрын
That’s why God gave you a VPN.
@nope69555Ай бұрын
VPN into your home network and then connect. Simple as setting a VPN point up in your house.
@CrystalKStearnsАй бұрын
Yeah my work made me sign a telework policy which says we can only telework from home because any other internet than home or the office could be dangerous. They don't take into account personal hot spots. But yeah I don't get to do it from other places
@allalala9916Ай бұрын
Can you move out of state or country and work from home there?
@traceymcswain435424 күн бұрын
Depends on the company. Mine has it written into the telework agreement for one location and must give an address
@EristarisisАй бұрын
I have used this with a former supervisor who could barely function IRL, let alone on the job, "I'm fully remote. The office is in the Netherlands. I am in Malaysia. I was HIRED when I was in Malaysia to work fully remote. If the company gives a weeks notice, and pays my tickets and hotel and visa for the duration, I will gladly fly to the Netherlands."
@JonathanDavisKookaburraАй бұрын
I could never work in a corporate environment because I could never stand to deal with this kind of thing. Your channel is soooo satisfying to me.
@jtidemaАй бұрын
Depends on the corporation. Her channel is amusing to me because it's the opposite of my corporate work environment. I've been "telecommuting" for about 20 years. No one needs to know where I am or asks, except out of friendship and curiosity.
@Kyt2024Ай бұрын
The manager is actually fully in the right here.
@c.barrett5114Ай бұрын
Add it to the policy then! Second 😂
@sheisalicee6134Ай бұрын
When i had a remote job they told me they don’t care where i worked from as long as the job got done. I do realized that is probably not the norm
@YensilАй бұрын
"How do I know you're working?" "Because my work is getting done, maybe?"
@AngelderbatАй бұрын
The one exception where this level of control is okay is if your work requires a high level of internet security because you are dealing with sensitive data. Most hotel wifi is not very secure, so I can see where there would be conflict here. However, this is still very controlling management behavior.
@SuraxАй бұрын
I work with confidential info (personal client data) and it is definitely a security concern. Our IT department has setup our laptops so that they can't connect to our networks if they're outside of the country.
@mlindholmАй бұрын
Because they don't use some form of WPA security? That shouldn't matter, as a person could (shouldn't, but could) also set their home wifi that way. All traffic should be encrypted with TLS 1.2 if not 1.3, and ideally some form of VPN anyway.
@pamalamielnicki9767Ай бұрын
We always use a VPN for security
@sydneyharbour-bridges8090Ай бұрын
That’s why the company has a VPN!
@stitchfinger7678Ай бұрын
If what you do is that sensitive, they wouldn't even have a remote job for it.
@ChloeBensonBeautyBoxesАй бұрын
Many places worry about your online security and company secrets.
@OkieDokie294Ай бұрын
That is what VPN is for! We can’t access company software or files unless we are using the company provided VPN software. Not even from home (we all work from home 3 days a week).
@stitchfinger7678Ай бұрын
Then don't have those jobs be remote?
@hipjazzboneАй бұрын
These videos raise my blood pressure because they're too accurate.
@arendeepropertymaintenanceАй бұрын
Hmmm. Where I'm from, there must be a consideration for workplace insurance and employee safety. The employer has every right, and perhaps responsibility, to know exactly where their workers are at any moment.
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@jaythejay10Ай бұрын
The worst is states which require reporting for tax purposes for even one day. Looking at you North Carolina...
@shavedparmesanprosciuttoan4317Ай бұрын
My company has had a hybrid model since I started a few years ago, three days in office, 2 days WFH, but they allowed flexibility. Like if you had a sick kid, working from home was fine that day, no questions asked. But suddenly, the parent company is cracking down and wants everyone in office 3 days a week and if you WFH but don’t put in PTO, you’re getting a written letter to your manager. They’ve even set up a new Wi-Fi network to track how many hours were in the office each week, and if we don’t meet a certain number we get a nasty letter sent to HR and management. For some reason, this bothers me so much, I am LIVID at this policy. My job is getting done, you’re not paying me shit, I’m doing all the finances even though that’s the job of the role above me (which you won’t fill, you won’t promote me for, and you won’t pay me for), so I just have to bend over and take this shit?! I’m DONE with this WFH hounding, absolutely done. Catch me at a new job across the country, working from home without issue. Bye!
@adriannaboswell1654Ай бұрын
Depends on what you do. My remote job required a lot of security which meant no working on public WiFi and it had to pass approved speed tests prior to working there