Comparison of team event and the single event with scores. Before and after doping scandal - Kamila Valieva Free Program at the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing. #figureskating #beijing2022 #kamilavalieva
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@user-fb4sb1zi8g9 ай бұрын
Even under pressure and falling so much she kept going! That’s how life is. And she’s still so precise in all her lives the videos are nearly identical. Angles, hand movements, leg heighth on the lifts and stuff, so good.
@toxic-low-key-ghost79343 ай бұрын
Well what was she meant to do.... just stop and wait for her music to end?
@user-fb4sb1zi8g3 ай бұрын
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 sorry you feel so insecure and horrible about your pathetic life that you feel the need to go around making smart @ss comments to strangers on the internet. Literally get a life so that you have better things to do. And in fact, yes, she could’ve just given up, which is what I assume someone like yourself would probably do when things get tough in life.
@juliadizhak83973 ай бұрын
Actually it’s a question !! anyone else from other countries with such falling will be in the end of board, but she was 4 ??! How??
@toxic-low-key-ghost79343 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397 absolutely right they would be dead last with a performance like that. But somehow she was still 4th
@Diana-dm3ns3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397You are stupid or what? She compete great at her short program and did 3A. Her components amd marks and jumps in short program were incredible. She was the one and only with the highest marks for both programs before her results and medals were stolen from her.
@TheStarflight413 ай бұрын
She was ostensibly a protected person before, during and after the Olympics, doesn't that matter anymore? Hold the adults accountable.
@september56713 ай бұрын
No adult is taking responsibility. They are more childlike than her smh
@TheStarflight413 ай бұрын
@@september5671 Agreed
@priyamanobalАй бұрын
Did kamila not know that what she was doing was against the rules? Wasn’t she 15 or 16 when that happened? Old enough to know what she can do and can’t do? Why is it only the adults fault?
@Yupiter2-km3zqАй бұрын
Valieva was not broken. The IOC (American garbage dump) forced Valieva to fall, threatening other Russian athletes with the deprivation of awards.
@felicityguillen3 сағат бұрын
@@priyamanobalwhat 15 year old has access to a very specific heart medication? eteri is known to be abusive too and u dont want that hag to face consequences? disgusting
@kelliew2813 Жыл бұрын
It was really helpful to see both performances side by side. That's so much pressure for a kid; even without a doping scandal. I sincerely feel sorry for her; but not as much as most people seem to. I think mainly for two reasons: 1. The "poor" performance still looked very good to me. Anyone could tell she was just distracted. People are acting like this is the most shameful, ruinous, horrible, abusive thing that could happen to a 15-year old girl. I promise, it is very very far from that. She didn't perform well - once. Her career is far from over. 2. What about the little girls who weren't doping? They didn't even get to enjoy their "once in a lifetime" moment because they were all feeling so sad and sorry for her. That's not fair either.
@jacia17 Жыл бұрын
we don’t know what happens behind the scenes on a day to day basis, so you don’t know if it’s not the most abusive thing, because we don’t know the whole story
@user-kg4jn9ux5y Жыл бұрын
I remember the threat of the head of the IOC Bach, if Valieva takes a place on the podium, no one will receive a medal. Camilla's free program is an athlete's feat, a sacrifice in favor of teammates, and verified mistakes of the season leader for the fourth (!) Place.
@zonedutopia10 ай бұрын
It was ok with skating skills but not with jumping - even if skating almost clean Kamila has awful prerotations and full blade take offs
@user-kh9ki3kq8m5 ай бұрын
you don’t know what happens behind closed doors. if they’re willing to give her 3 different heart meds to make her train longer hours, they’re absolutely willing to abuse an athlete for results. i would call doping a form of abuse already if kamila was uncomfortable with it.
@daddyanalprobation52605 ай бұрын
you clearly know nothing about being a skater but it’s ok, she might never get a chance to perform at such important events ever again due to her coaches abusive teaching style. her injuries will start to build up and eventually will have to stop competing at an early age. also for non figure skater both performances will look great! but for us we see every flaw and every under rotated jump and its crucial that we don’t mess that up. it’s truly sad some people can’t see the abuse kamilas coach puts on all her students
@TheStarflight419 ай бұрын
She was supposed to be a protected person. During the doping allegations her name should NEVER have been released. She was placed in an unbearable pressure cooker. She was left to face the press alone by her coaches and there was terrible short sightedness by the CAS.
@PeirsolFan29 ай бұрын
Fair point but with the makeup of the Russian team it wouldn’t have taken much to figure out who it was.
@Jeremy-wp4yh9 ай бұрын
If you're too protected to face the consequences you shouldn't be able to compete at an Olympic level.
@L.Spencer9 ай бұрын
I don't recall that her name was released. But by process of elimination, everyone knew who it was because she was the only one that young.
@tambam67447 ай бұрын
Then little kids should NOT compete at the Olympics.
@Suuusan287 ай бұрын
@@tambam6744 She is not the only athlete who is "adult" in competitions while being a teenager (child if you want). Most of the skaters and gymnasts are.
@tamasjakkel5495 ай бұрын
That was the only way to get a medal ceremony and announcing Scherbakova as an Olympic Champion after the IOC President announced that IF she was in the top 3, then no medal ceremony would have been taken. She became a double victim and played her sad role there...
@lenalena5859Ай бұрын
Именно так она и сыграла, она очень сильная и гениальная!!!! А Шербакова это поняла и даже не ожидала и не могла проявить свою победу т.к. Всё было и так понятно...
@maaduufan51402 ай бұрын
It was a dramatic olympic for the Russian trio. Trusova was crying and pissed off at their coaches, Kamila was crying from the doping scandal pressure & Anna was stunned not knowing what to do despite winning the olympic. They should've not let Kamila participate in the first place, knowing well how the media would scrutinize her. They claimed she was a protected person, yet what they did made the situation worse. Poor Kamila, her coaches & doctors should've taken the blame instead.
@mosesmom3 ай бұрын
It is a terrible injustice to this dedicated and talented skater. The people she trusted did her dirty. Yes, the test results were 6 weeks old. Yes, another non banned drug can leave metabolites similar, so the testing must be very specific to determine the results. IMHO, there is reasonable doubt. However, the ruling went against Russian skating authorities, and that my, friends, is where this blame should rest. She was victimized by the people she was supposed to be able to trust. I wish her well. She did her best and held up with dignity and grace. So now, 2 years later, medals are awarded. There are no winners in this, only sadness for the invalidating of all the hard work and dedication to all the skaters involved.
@K_masters2 ай бұрын
This is terrific. Thank you for this.
@Sonia-zu7be3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that video!!!! shes brilliant im so sorry for her :(((
@juliadizhak83973 ай бұрын
She is athlete with doping
@Diana-dm3ns3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397and figure skater from America who is going to become a champion in command competition took doping too.. How silly. Kamila took doping that hardly helps and only for people with heart disease. She took it once, when to reach even a little effect you need to take it systematically. And what dopping took your champion?
@juliadizhak83973 ай бұрын
Hardly helps ?? How do you know that? Did you train with her!! Who from USA??
@Diana-dm3ns3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397 Yes. You can easily google that her doping is trimetazidine. It has a cumuculative effect and in her doping test she had only traces of the drug, which means she took it once. It’s a common drug in many pills, like from sore throat.
@Rimanicosi3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397Mackenzie Headley for example. ( Same age as Kamila) was caught with dooping twice. But WADA didn't even mentioned it. Yeah, of course, because Americans are always for honest sport. So true
@DeShawnHatcher3 ай бұрын
Wow. I feel for her. Who is giving her those drugs? She was such a breathe of fresh air, so beautiful on ice this is heartbreaking That poor child 4 year ban wow
@juliadizhak83973 ай бұрын
She is not a child ?? 17 years is it a child?
@Rachel-qt2cl3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397yes, it is
@user-sq1bf6py2z3 ай бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397 She was 15 at that moment.
@Brmsg3 ай бұрын
Dear you need to study doping cases , she had this probe 3 month before Olympics. Check how many probes was checked after this probe , and all of the was clean . They found traces of ml , it means that any product even toothpaste can give this results . Olympics became dirty as it is , so much ugly games .
@DeShawnHatcher17 күн бұрын
@@juliadizhak8397 what is wrong with you? 17 is a child wow. She's been skating all her life to get to this level and then it was just gone that must be devastating. Jesus have a heart wow
@wits33929 ай бұрын
I'll always wonder if she fell so much because of pressure or if they told her to fell to avoid more scandals
@TheStarflight418 ай бұрын
I think she was flat out drained.
@FanuzaBaidigital4 ай бұрын
Ей донесли, что в случае, если она будет претендовать на медаль, , вся команда будет лишена церемонии награждения. В конце проката, когда ждали оценок, она расплакалась: "зато награждение не отменят" Этим скандалом несуществующего допинга её поставили в условия "или ты или команда твоей страны" . Самое гнусное воздействие. Она оказалась слишком хороша, чтобы соревноваться с ней в честной игре.
@RU-qv3jl4 ай бұрын
@@FanuzaBaidigital you mean the doping rusada decided was not relevant but Wada disagree?
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
She fell because of the pressure. I find it interesting that, in 2014, Eteri had another star pupil, Julia Lipnitskaya. Eteri insisted that Julia skate both programs in the team event. Her iconic free skate garnered much media attention--so much that the pressure built on her to win the gold medal in the individual event. Instead, she fell and came in 5th, I think. That was also, basically the end of her career. The Eteri-group skaters are already under so much pressure to perform and also to keep from being replaced by a newer, younger skater. It is no wonder that they often buckle under the pressure.
@elenamastiukova27873 ай бұрын
@@skatefan9495I am sorry, any athlete is under immense pressure at the Olympics)) Kwan, Chen, Yuzuru and many more great athletes (also much older and experienced than Kamila) could not withstand this pressure and Eteri wasn’t coaching them😂😂. But there’s always someone who can. Take Scherbakova, Medvedeva and Zagitova, all skating clean at their Olympics and their coach somehow wasn’t a problem 😂
@72586jejones3 ай бұрын
This is so sad. You never want to see someone completely crash and burn like this. Her coaches orchestrated this. I believe she had little to no idea.
@JuliaUlyanovskaya3 ай бұрын
Через её тренерский штаб за 10 лет прошло сотни детей, десятки выступали на международных стартах, пройдены сотни допинг тестов. А положительную пробу нашли ТОЛЬКО в одной пробе у САМОЙ топовой спортсменки, отправившейся на Олимпиаду. Просто ненависть и ЗАВИСТЬ к штабу, который забирал ВСЕ зодотые медали достигла предела и их подставили.
@HaileyRoy-wj4vs3 ай бұрын
I was so confused I didn't know she performed twice! I was watching one video where she wasn't falling and the other one where she was. I thought I was going crazy 😂
@JuicyFashion112 ай бұрын
I’m confused also. She skated twice?
@gardernias23 күн бұрын
@@JuicyFashion11 team event and individual
@jesuslover24688 ай бұрын
This is why these programs are never memorable. If the skater is rushed or is behind the music, you cannot tell because anything could be playing in the background and can still be considered artistic. A great example of what I mean can be referenced to Yuna Kim's Adios Nonino FS cannot be even a single second behind the music because that's a truly refined and sophisticated program with every moment of her movement seamlessly matched to every beat.
@Rimanicosi3 ай бұрын
If you can't remember her programmes it isn't called "never memorable" by the way
@user-yl5pu3bq6q3 ай бұрын
Танец от Камилы это спектакль как первый вариант 178 баллов. Она одна одарена балетными способностями на льду + вращения+4оборота прыжки+ 3 аксель + сила воли и огромным трудолюбием. То что нашли в единствнной пробе из числа сданных Камилой имеет подозрение. Другим спортменам за подобные нарушения назначали 6 месяцев дисквалификации или выговор. Камиле 4 года. Я возмущена
@yfnfyfnf68403 күн бұрын
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@orionialomilialtguisev3109 ай бұрын
Podran atacar de diversas formas a una niña brillante pero jamás van a detener su carrera tiene mucho por delante.
@pedrojorge191212 күн бұрын
Anyone that had been following them over the years could notice right away that she had given up, either consciously or unconsciously. IOC had said right before that, if she were on podium, no medal would be awarded. To make everything clear, right after the performance Eteri Tutberidze just questioned her why she had stopped fighting and given up, a reception that shocked Thomas Bach, IOC President, is his own words.
@infolinety47394 ай бұрын
She is a figurstating genius !!!! She is a 15. Bravo. She a best of the best...
@bridgetbinion849411 ай бұрын
I don't think Eteri told her to fail in her individual competition because of her anger towards Kamila after the program.
@junkfood19917 ай бұрын
She is a good actress too
@Brmsg3 ай бұрын
The whole team was talking about medal , pressure from not getting it .
@True_toaster3 ай бұрын
She was under an enormous pressure but she decided to perform! She is very strong and I hope CAS will change their mind. There is no doping that will make any person as flexible, as tender and beautiful as Valieva is. She is a brilliant of figure skating!
@jjsmith48292 ай бұрын
interesting to see how the program varied bewtwen the two in erms of timing
@Blueiesky406917 күн бұрын
😢😢😢 the pressure
@qiqisongs3 ай бұрын
She was behind beat all the time but with this music, it was hard to tell. No wonder Eteri chose this music for her
@yfnfyfnf68403 күн бұрын
Валиева сейчас уже не та. Она просто шедевр. Она повзрослела расцвела. Стала более женственной. Это уже не ребенок. Завораживает. Каждый жест. Глаз оторвать невозможно. Техника как всегда. Шедевральна. И еще в ней есть личность. Достоинство невероятное. kzfaq.infoDkUXa13saSM
@user-fb2fo7mc9l2 ай бұрын
大人的問題,要一個15歲小孩承受,難以想像。
@j.r.82235 ай бұрын
She sacrificed herself so her teammates could get their medals.
@giselameunier47882 ай бұрын
correct
@michelle.h.-rl2rf4 күн бұрын
More like Eteri sacrifaced her ready to replaced her with someone younger just like what she did to all her past students
@clo9993 ай бұрын
Her coaches and team should get a lifelong ban. How many young girls will they be allowed to destroy mentally and physically?
@harleyrobb30342 ай бұрын
I swear if it wasn’t Russia they would have been banned. Russia and China (latter using girls who are clearly too young). Tend to get passes for breaking the runs. Very few Russians are eligible to compete in the Olympics now but they should be forced to compete under a non Russian/Russian controlled country in order to be able to compete again. Russia needs to be banned.
@user-ff4tu7bn5g3 ай бұрын
Камила-бабочка, которой оборвали крылья злобные людишки с чёрными душонками. Абсолютно чистая, светлая девочка, которую оклеветали. Не было никакого допинга! Были следы вещества в мизерной дозе, которые обнаружила мутная лаборатория с нарушением всех правил и сроков. Позор такому "судейству". Проиграла не Камила, проиграло мировое фигурное катание. Наслаждайтесь своими кривоногими Лунами Хэндрикс и Карэн Чен с допотопным катанием..
@natalialee69062 ай бұрын
Камила Валиева - кобыла на льду. Она слишком крупная для фигурного катания. Отсюда и допинг. Не может кататься самостоятельно. 🐀🐀
@cyberdaemonmancubus341Ай бұрын
Луна не кривоногая, у нее почти такая же фигура как у Камилы и это в 24 года и катается она неплохо. Я это говорю при том, что от Камилы без ума
@TheStarflight418 ай бұрын
She was ostensibly a protected person. Turn to the adults.
@user-nh5qj7cz3m Жыл бұрын
Как больно видеть этот прокат. Ненавижу тех , кто довел гениальную девочку до этого срыва😢
@Jeremy-wp4yh9 ай бұрын
Her own team who drugged her
@violettagf9 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yhты в курсе, что тест может быть положительным даже если ты принимал абсолютно любые таблетки и капли от носа. Так что не надо вякать про наркотики
@user-rc4id9im7b8 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yhпочитайте в интернете про триметазидин. Он вызывает головокружение и абсолютно бесполезен для фигуриста! Проверяйте то дерьмо, которое вам льют в уши
@tambam67447 ай бұрын
@@violettagfShe is a DOPER!
@user-ew4sm7cx4s6 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yhIn case you didn't know, the test results were made in December, and the Olympiad was in February, that is, more than 1.5 months have passed since the appointment, so the whole thing is made up, live with it
@ferminadaza94188 ай бұрын
A estas alturas he llegado a pensar que por envidia alguien de su mismo equipo la pudo haber boicoteado.
@FanuzaBaidigital4 ай бұрын
Я тоже так думаю.
@user-gb2rk9zi2y2 жыл бұрын
一共7个跳跃,5个失败,只成功了一个3loop和一个3+3,太不可思议了!
@pavlakellerova97513 ай бұрын
To je skladba Caroliny Kostner? Slušné: hop, hop, hop, hop, hoooop, hop... umělecký zážitek 0. Rozdíl mezi závodnicemi je sice jen ...16 let, ale Kamila také jednou dospěje a předvede nám ve 30 letech něco víc, než hop hop hop. Předvede nám nezapomenutelný umělecký zážitek.
@marlo54878 ай бұрын
Oh vamos, el después no es relevante, era una adolescente asediada por la prensa, presionada por los entrenamientos, qué se puede esperar
@neversayjello3 ай бұрын
Had no idea they do the same choreo
@sore.subject4 ай бұрын
Why was it necessary to destroy Valieva?? The gold medal went to Russia anyway.
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
The test results destroyed her.
@Brmsg3 ай бұрын
Dear you need to study doping cases , she had this probe 3 month before Olympics. Check how many probes was checked after this probe , and all of the was clean . They found traces of ml , it means that any product even toothpaste can give this results . Olympics became dirty as it is , so much ugly games .
@Brmsg3 ай бұрын
Team gold medal . Competition between girls. Every skater favorite of someone. This time everyone knew who will Win gold . This probe was forgotten by trainers , RUSWADA , medical staff . Any test have to have results after ( but not with Valieva)
@harleyrobb30342 ай бұрын
The adults who gave her the drugs destroyed her. She should of never been given anything that could jeopardize her future as a skater
@mollykissel95537 ай бұрын
Her component score honestly should have been lower for the single event....there was nothing there. She was literally just trying to finish her routine.
@arwaaburizik7944Ай бұрын
She was so beautiful and I think the drug she took is stupid. No drug can transform someone like that. But heartbreak can crush her. I wish she did not have to deal with this. She is lovely and I watch her on repeat any day
@pearle37779 ай бұрын
Eteri Tuberitze rigged this whole competition and set everything up for the other two, particularly Anna. She ruined Kamila and will most likely disregard her like trash when she has aged out. This beautiful girl took the brunt of her coaches shame . I still believe she was told to fall on the individual event. She was too solid in warm up, practice, and the team event. Her falls don’t even look real on some of the jumps. Just silly. I pray God gives her a chance to redeem herself professionally. She deserves it and there just won’t be another Kamila. She is pure beauty and grace. I don’t think I will ever forget the pain in her eyes and on her face after each of her individual performances. I couldn’t look anymore. Her team and teammates are awful and only out for themselves.
@vasilikikrgnnd54159 ай бұрын
I also believe right from the beginning that she was told to fall... most falls clearly look set up and if she was to take a medal, no medals would have been given until the procedure was finished.. which I think still hasn't.. so she just had to come fourth or lower... in order for the medalls to be given to other athletes. Clearly she was under immense pressure...
@Suuusan287 ай бұрын
Kamila really is a miracle. Not only she is pure beauty and grace, she is also very athletic.
@kitkatkathy_chesteron275 ай бұрын
I agree, Kamila is amazing!!!
@elenamastiukova27873 ай бұрын
Well, Kamila is going through puberty with grace and looks beautiful even though she’s clearly struggling in her new mature female shape. And it sure doesn’t look like Eteri is dumping her like trash.
@user-ew7nh9ms8u3 ай бұрын
Вы такую херню несете! Зачем ее тренеру, ее же уничтожать. Этери тутберидзе великий тренер, именно у нее самые лучшие фигуррсткт в мире.
@stevenvalencia20033 ай бұрын
Im sry u all can say she caved under the pressure due to the doping scandal that girl has been dominate all year an solid in team event an short an then have the worst skate of her life in fs nope putin has power an with her being told if she won the Russians would an nobody else woukd recieve a medal. I believe she deliberately skated bad to protext russia an was pressured to do so by putin an the Russians
@yfnfyfnf68403 күн бұрын
И тут Путин)) Ну вы блин даете. Живу в России. У меня сейчас кошка с подоконика свалилась. Пойду гляну может ее Путин столкнул))
@Yupiter2-km3zqАй бұрын
Valieva was not broken. The IOC (American garbage dump) forced Valieva to fall, threatening other Russian athletes with the deprivation of awards.
@TheStarflight413 ай бұрын
Some people in the comments assume she knew she was taking a banned substance. How do they know that? It's more likely she didn't. She was a minor... a protected person. That should ALWAYS matter. Kamila was a very compliant child who lived in their bubble. Punishment is too severe. Blame the adults. Something is very wrong with the CAS ruling.
@ejd52612 ай бұрын
Such an obvious Russian troll. Do you think we can’t tell? Everyone knows the Russian athletes mostly know they are doped. We don’t blame the child. But we do blame the adults and your government. Not one Russian athlete should be at the Olympics in 2024. We all know that the reason they will be is corruption between Russia and IOC and WADA.😊
@TheStarflight412 ай бұрын
@@ejd5261 Actually I'm an American. Funny how the doping allegations hit the fan the day after the Russian team wins gold. Nothing suspicious about that. Everything reeks of politics... precisely because of what you pointed out. Valieva was the victim of repeated child abuse by the Russians and the short sightedness of the CAS. And the media? Guilty until proven innocent. The protection of minors should always be the top priority. The CAS failed to exercise discretion in their harsh ruling. Do you throw the book at a previously abused child just because the rule book says you can? My heart goes out to her. All the more the pity because child prodigies are a rarity. Is it fair for her to compete while taking a banned substance? No. Does she skate the way she does because of that substance? Hell no. What a debacle. Don't expect another Valieva to come spinning along anytime soon.
@user-ml6bm7tf6w3 ай бұрын
何の疑いもない状態でホント見たかったな
@sashashetty36512 ай бұрын
She performed twice? Someone please explain
@lgt_jne2 ай бұрын
It's different categories yes she performed twice team event and individual event.
@footballnewscr2 ай бұрын
she is a very strong girl , even after falling twice she kept doing. without minding her pain . keep up love you kamila
@williammccleary44083 ай бұрын
It's amazing to me how the choreography and expression have absolutely nothing to do with the music; she somehow finds a way to be completely disconnected from its intoxicating nature. She could be skating to anything. The arm movements and overextensions are so superfluous, it feels likes she trying to cram as many in as possible, rather than putting intention behind them. While the jumps look impressive on paper, there is some weird technique going on that isn't quite exemplary. The triple axel in the team event was landed so easily (after she had never done the jump previous to that season) that there is NO WAY she was not seeing the positive effects of doping. Not buying it.
@lgt_jne2 ай бұрын
Do you even know what drug she tested positive in... this girt is talented no heart medication can do that lol
@dbenedic13 ай бұрын
“Russians cheat”… was told that by numerous Russian artists. It’s their culture. She was a minor. Influenced by some were powerful people. I hope she recovers and claims her self-respect. Her talent deserves that.
@jjsmith48292 ай бұрын
true shitty culture and people
@deeppurplejaguar Жыл бұрын
and all the demons from WADA will go to hell one day
@user-nh5qj7cz3m Жыл бұрын
Туда им и дорога. Амин.
@rus128510 ай бұрын
The devils who doped her up and put her through this will go to hell one day. WADA must not be blamed for doing the right thing by protecting fair play in sport and if there is any justice in the world USA will take that team gold.
@user-rc4id9im7b8 ай бұрын
@@rus1285конечно заберут! США всегда идут по головам других стран - вот и вся ваша справедливость
@Rimanicosi3 ай бұрын
@@rus1285ofc, but why don't you mention that honest sport is a sport where only Americans take first places? And no matter at what cost. Bullying Russian skater? Why not
@rus12853 ай бұрын
@@Rimanicosi no one said that a USA victory equals honest sport. Honest sport is doping getting the punishment it deserves.
@kitkatkathy_chesteron275 ай бұрын
Kamila is amazing, she was my favorite it 2022 even though she is Russian. She's amazing, she skated with so much joy, I was just so awestruck watching her!
@sodium74824 ай бұрын
I agree with you, Kamila is a great skater. But why did you say "Even thought she is russian"? Why is a person's nationality important here. She and the other Russian athletes did not start this war
@user-ew7nh9ms8u3 ай бұрын
А че вам, что она русская! Да! Русская! Великая! И помните, что она из России! Националистка что ли?
@francescolimasters425610 ай бұрын
Kamila's talent is unique in this world: her flexibility to stretch in the candle stick as well as her expressive mouvements are there for all to admire. That is why in the individual programme, the hateful journalists and invidious people did everything to prevent her from being on the podium, using the most despicable lies and diffamation. Doping has never been proven. I am so happy she has regained her strength, her quads, her outstanding performance in Mongolia is the proof that the evil people who complotted her downfall did all that to no avail. We will continue to enjoy her art and beautiful performances. What a joy to be able to see such extraordinary people as Kamila, Anna and Yuzuru Hanyu who are truly the gems of figure skating.
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
Doping has been proven, in her positive test. Not at this event, of course. Journalist and others didn't keep her off the podium. She didn't deliver. I actually blame it on her coaches for putting her under too much pressure.
@Blueiesky406917 күн бұрын
It was a set up!
@charlotteforbes20903 ай бұрын
I mean, I do feel really bad, especially because we never know whether it was the young lady's mistake or whether her coach or family pressured her into it. That said, some people are acting extremely sympathetic, as if the world somehow set this young lady up. I feel really bad, so don't get me wrong, but even being a teenager is no excuse for cheating. some people enroll in colleges as young as 15/16 (outliers, for sure, but it happens). And if these people were caught cheating on an exam, no one would rush in and say, "oh but they're so young!!!" It's like, no, you're not an adult, but you should know what's right and what's wrong. I feel sympathy, for sure, but only so much. After all, there were other competitors in this competition. On a side note, why not let everyone just dope haha. Because then you're levelling the playing field, if everyone's doing it, and you're not spending scores of money to test people or to even retract their medals. Mind you, I'm no figure skater; just musing.
@B_Bunny_Ай бұрын
I think people are mainly saying that because there couldve been a chance she didnt even know she had ingested those substances. She knew as good as other skaters how high the stakes were, so there would have had to have been some form of reluctance if she knew
@mariadamen78864 ай бұрын
Doping scandal? Why not add "alleged" for clarification.
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
Do you think the test results were wrong?
@user-uv3hc7zb6u3 ай бұрын
@@skatefan9495 the second test showed no drugs. Any way, until proven guilty (in court) isn't a person supposed to be innocent.
@alinareybey32633 ай бұрын
@@user-uv3hc7zb6uhahaha this aged well
@OGGuy-xb1yk9 ай бұрын
The main difference is the cheater was in the closet at the team event, and then was revealed at the individual event. Karma is a bish.
@Yurito129 ай бұрын
Did yall read the case file? She was clear from any drugs at the Olympics which meant she was clean during both skates, Her test from Europeans came back positive which meant she had drugs in her system at Europeans not Olympics
@Yurito129 ай бұрын
Oh and the announcement of someone being positive was made during teams events but it was only said that they are investigating who it was which they knew already and then they revealed the name after the team's event was over.
@user-vz1ir5hw4p8 ай бұрын
@@Yurito12 she was cleared by RUSSIA, not by WADA, dont spread misinformation. RUSADA isn’t trustworthy on an international level. But im sure there are plenty of Russian competitions she can participate in LOL
@JosedeJezeus7 ай бұрын
@@Yurito12 the Russians dope during training, not competitions. That’s how they get around the doping rules: by being clean during the competitions, but taking drugs during training. It’s state sponsored corruption.
@Jeremy-wp4yh9 ай бұрын
And still overscored.
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
Yes, on the second mark. She should have come in 11th, with a 135. Her PCS should have been around 64, not 70. She still would have been 4th overall.
@Jeremy-wp4yh3 ай бұрын
@@skatefan9495 I don't even know how that pcs is possible considering the mandatory deductions from the falls.
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Good point, though the deductions are from the TES. I gave her 8's assuming the judges wouldn't go lower than that.
@Jeremy-wp4yh3 ай бұрын
@@skatefan9495 I've read the ISU guide on pcs. There are mandatory deductions after a minor error 1 major error more Than 1 more than 2 major errors. In other words it's still too high. Falls do affect pcs.
@Rimanicosi3 ай бұрын
@@skatefan9495if you are so "professional" about scoring then go find a job as a judge. No one needs your opinion about techniques that you found in Google 5 minutes ago
@rodneymills64773 ай бұрын
What happened? She had to look the world in the face as a cheater and a fraud and realize that she was ultimately still not good enough for the podium. Because if you have to use, you're not good enough.
@arwaaburizik7944Ай бұрын
These drugs don’t do anything. I think the scandal talk itself is a scandal
@dafnebolson4 ай бұрын
Nobody took Phelphs medals or records after being found dope. He even recognized he used maryjane in a "recreative" way... Also nobody punished the whole swiming team for it... And he isn't the first one: you remember that runner of USA... He had his record until Bolt. Is not fair the both RUS olympics ban
@jenkins52654 ай бұрын
Weed isn’t a PED. Phelps has never tested positive for PEDs.
@dafnebolson4 ай бұрын
@@jenkins5265 hahaha do you think that? Try to argument withouth arguments. Weed is a subtance prohibited and was tested positive in a national competition, wich the fed says is after or before an olympic competition
@annie57413 ай бұрын
Phelps didn't break any anti-doping rules. And by the way, he was banned from competing for 3 months by the US, even though they didn't have to do anything.
@dafnebolson3 ай бұрын
@@annie5741 and... the whole federation of swimmng got banned? The whole country got banned? No. He got tested for weed and IOC didn't do anything. Gatlin still having everything, after more than 10 athlets and para athlets of US with forbiden substances, the national federation didn't get punished as Rusia did.
@annie57413 ай бұрын
@@dafnebolson Why would they get banned for not doing anything wrong? And Gatlin was banned multiple times because as opposed to RUSADA, they take that stuff seriously. It also helps that they don't have a state sponsored doping program. Sotnikova's sample was obviously tempered with, yet she got away with it.
@primalcritters3 ай бұрын
She has a condition called athletic heart. It causes heart palpitations, a heart murmur, low blood pressure, dizziness, fainting spells. I wonder if her coach laced a supplement thinking she needed it to normalize her heart
@primalcritters3 ай бұрын
@@justsayn8929 you realize she was told to say that because her coaching staff does not want to be investigated. This absolves them from any responsibility by saying it was Grandpa's water. Eteri is more powerful then you realize not only in Russia but outside with the ISU as well. Go back to an interview with her with the ISU from 5 years ago and you can see how much they Fawn over Eteri
@primalcritters3 ай бұрын
@@justsayn8929 I can't believe you don't understand that Kamila is under the direction of her coaches. You need to look more into her coaching staff to understand and appreciate. Kosternia another beautiful skater has spoken about that she was forced to train with broken bones or else leave their training. She finally left because she did not want to continue to ruin her body. As a former figure skater and best friends with the competitive figure skater she said the worst thing you could do is train through injury and this is what these girls are made to do. Imagine what else they do to them?
@tambam67449 ай бұрын
And still inflated score.
@lindaleeratti53915 ай бұрын
15 YEARS OLD AND STILL THE INCREDIBLE BEST FIGURE SKATER IN THE HISTORY OF SKATING !!!! (. 6 QUADRUPLETS IN ONE WORLD COMPETITIVE EVENT !!!! AND PERFECT !!!
@skatefan94953 ай бұрын
Which event was that?
@user-jp4tl9zd8n2 ай бұрын
So what if she was a teenager, you don't cheated on her gold 🥇 medal medals for the others wins others. Im glad they banned 🚫 her for four years now and took away other medals she won.
@TheReneex3 ай бұрын
As flawless as her skating was before the doping scandal was, you have to wonder would she have skated as cleanly if she wasn’t supplied with the drug enhancement!
@user-vn6iq5fv6n3 ай бұрын
Какой допинг? Ты считаешь есть допинг, который даст грацию, прыжки и технику?
@GTpato3 ай бұрын
ofc, I think that if she didn't dope she would've won, but yea if you dope you dope and you should face the consequences, it's sad to see one of the biggest talents ever go down like this too.
@user-vn6iq5fv6n3 ай бұрын
@@GTpatoзачем ей принимать допинг, если она уверена в победе? На серьезных соревнованиях принимать наркотик, зная что его выявят, и потерять все шансы проявить себя и победить? Зачем ей это??
@GTpato3 ай бұрын
@@user-vn6iq5fv6n idk Russian what are you saying
@Yucio-ot5eq3 ай бұрын
As obvious as it can be, her Olympic test is 100% clean 😅
@jahsjdhjsbbx69468 ай бұрын
so lemme get this right. she was only good because of the drugs ?
@natalie-fq1ty8 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Drugs only enhance the performance. This was the result of abuse. She isn’t a good skater speaking technique.
@hayday01584 ай бұрын
She was clean in both video
@mariadamen78864 ай бұрын
Why don't you go and try to get rid of your bias? Typical american attitude, can't win go and discredit the winning opponent. Disgusting. @@natalie-fq1ty
@annalipa61983 ай бұрын
@@natalie-fq1tywhat are you talking about?! She was clean. Absolutely. a micro-doze of trimetazin was found in 2021 at Russian Chempionship. And we don’t believe that she took it. What for?! Anyway, she is a genius. That choreography and this level of scating and understanding of programm you can’t achieve with any drugs.
@sydneytoshok84813 ай бұрын
@@annalipa6198 Skating "clean" is not equivalent to good technique. Landing your triples and quads does not take away from heavy prerotation, poor axis, minimal edges and wrong edges, full blade take offs... Just because the judges do not penalize such doesn't make it correct. Kamila is a beautiful performer, but the technique is not there.
@martasoricetti230710 ай бұрын
what happened to kamilyoshka was: americans :(
@PeirsolFan29 ай бұрын
LMAO - are you for real? The Russians did this to themselves.
@Anna-me8zw9 ай бұрын
@@PeirsolFan2it’s clear that all this show was put on my the USA😊
@Iwatchstuff10009 ай бұрын
What happened was she doped ie cheated
@scastillo74199 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. The Americans had nothing to do with this. The Americans don’t run WADA. They don’t run CAS. They don’t run the ISU. They had no say in this. And they aren’t the ones who doped Kamila Valieva. That was her team that did that. The Russians did this to themselves.
@ashlabelle9 ай бұрын
Uh, yeah I'm not an anti-Russia person, in fact I completely see the hypocrisy in how the west is treating Russia, but I'm gonna have to pass on this one. The Russians have REPEATED anti doping violations and obscene overscoring in this sport, to the point where the 2014 winner recently admitted one of her samples had a drug in it but she was acquitted because her second sample was fine, when we know that year the Olympics was in Russia and there was found to be state sponsored doping.
@user-yb6yu6su8n3 ай бұрын
Such a drug lover
@Rimanicosi3 ай бұрын
I bet you are about yourself? Yes right. Kamila is the greatest
@user-yb6yu6su8n3 ай бұрын
@@Rimanicosi yes! She is the most shamless drug lover!
@user-yb6yu6su8n3 ай бұрын
yes! She is the most shamless drug lover!
@jjsmith48292 ай бұрын
gotta love you guys; got caught by drug testing and you deny it; pathetic cheater like her@@Rimanicosi