As explained above you would have to tip trim to maintain the flex. This is why building from scratch rather than changing an existing club allows you to dial in every variable. Is this noticeable for most golfers, probably not to be completely honest. BUT it does explain why some players would notice a difference after doing this to a club.

Most believe that softer typically equates to higher flight and more spin but thats not really the case since there are WAY too many factors in a players swing - delivery, tempo, attack, that can alter the final numbers.

There are lots of factors, but overall each full flex is designated by a number, but I would say each flex if roughly 1.5-2 frequency points each. Ive even built some clubs that are for players at very low speeds that are negative frequency.

Mine is an old model from an OEM R&D facility but you can get frequency machines from Golfworks

its was roughly 7 cpms higher but that it at a calculated swing weight of around C7, which would keep the frequency close to the original value. But for the player the clubs would feel a lot lighter.

The length is part of the calculation and factors into the formula- in this case shorter means softer

@@ryanbarath1916 That might be part of their frequency calculation, but that doesn't mean that it performs differently. That calculated frequency doesn't have a well defined connection to anything real (feel, spin, etc). If you want to provide some context, test the results on a launch monitor at two different frequencies. I'd wager that because this shaft has the same cpm at the 2 different swing weight matched lengths it will actually feel very similar... Besides the obvious difference in length.

It all depends on the shaft but if head weight is adjusted to keep swing weight where it was before being cut down, you would probably need to tip between .5 - .75"

Ryan Barath thanks for the reply, I don’t regret selling it now because it would have played too short had I done what you said👍

To maintain the same frequency of the shaft you would have to pull it, tip it and then get to final length by cutting it. Its a long process vs just cutting it down. It also depends on the shafts and if you want to keep the swing weight the same or not, but this is just one example of how changing one variable on a club can have more effects than many people would assume.

@@ryanbarath1916 i see. Thank you for your advice! Keep up the great work! All your videos are awesome, theres no other channel like yours! 😀😀👍👍

your swingweight will be much lighter with that combination

Andrew Smith if you add weight back to the head to get it to the pre-cut swing weight then it should feel much closer to what it was flex wise

Hey ye the club builder mentioned this, the only option was to hot melt which I didn’t want to do as it was permanent. If I put a lighter grip on will that add flex?

Andrew Smith i would suggest trying lead tape to get an idea if you like the weight back in the head before hotmelt. Using a lighter grip is just tricking the scale since the club head isn’t getting any heavier

more flexible because of the mass added to the head to maintain swing weight

Very interesting. I just bought a cobra f6 4-5 wood baffler which comes with a 20 gram and 2 gram head weight and switched out the 2 gram for another 20 gram. I am going to cut the shaft 2.75 inches. If the club started at D3 with a stiff shaft, and I add enough lead tape to make the swing weight D3 after the shaft reduction, based on your video the shaft will play more flexible. Instead, can I add slightly less lead tape to have the club play at D0 to maintain the stiffness?

@@shaunm80 As soon as you ad mass to the head, if you don't tip the shaft than it will play softer. The easiest way to think about this would be if you added the extra 18g by swapping out the weight but instead of cutting down the club - you just choke down the 2.75" instead. Its a lot of mass to add without tipping to keep flex BUT it could end up being a real winner either way. This is why a fitting is so important when finding shaft flex,. Thanks for the question.

@@ryanbarath1916 Instead of tipping the shaft, what if you added some mass under the grip? Say one of those grip-end counterweights or a poor man's weight in the upper shaft - a cork with a fishing weight (I don't have all your equipment)?

@@JCTrustee the counter weight will just make it swing weight heavier, and in that case i would always suggest using the proper insert. thanks fir watching and asking questions

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