What if Gandalf Took the One Ring? Theory (Updated)

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Gandalf was one of the greatest leaders of the West during the Third Age of Tolkien’s Middle-earth, but what if he gave in to temptation and took Sauron’s One Ring for himself? This theory explores that possibility! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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@yourstruly4817 3 жыл бұрын

"Don't tempt me, Frodo!"

@morgulstower5839 3 жыл бұрын

I dare not take it.

@cyruspowers7355 8 ай бұрын

*In an alternate universe* "However, that ring is quite magnificent now that I can properly gaze upon it.."

@whtbobwntsbobget 3 жыл бұрын

"Gandalf and his advisor Sauron" damn that was painful to hear.

@oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989 3 жыл бұрын

"Take it Gandalf, im giving it to you" "Thank you Frodo"

@EdricLysharae 3 жыл бұрын

"The most insidious Evil is the Evil that can convince you that it is The Greater Good." This was a fantastic remake!

@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын

Bonus MoW vid! Niiiice!

@MenoftheWest 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, cheers on your Gandalf Theory from last month! Here is the link for anyone who is interested!: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8WXeah_kq3MmYU.html

@shadowofchaos8932 3 жыл бұрын

My head just popped. It's not Sunday!

@deadend1041 3 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest very interested, thank you.

@howardhavardramberg7160 3 жыл бұрын

This one is really good!

@DavidWesley 3 жыл бұрын

Great job with this what-if. Definitely more fleshed-out.

@adarkwind4712 3 жыл бұрын

The council wanted to see if it was the one so they asked the most pure hearted among them to do so. Is it not ironic that those who are supremely wise often fall not to their enemies armies or arrows. But to their own arrogance they thought themselves wise band strong and in so doing doomed all.

@MenoftheWest 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, those are my thoughts as well!

@johnrandolph1989 3 жыл бұрын

Then Sarumon the White would've transformed into Sarumon the Yellow if you catch my meaning.😝🍋

@theMightywooosh 3 жыл бұрын

Saruman the brown pants

@josephstalin4143 3 жыл бұрын

Sarumaun the brown

@DemitriusX666 3 жыл бұрын

............ He would have gotten a new tailor and went with a yellow theme?

@timonsolus 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be Saruman the Green? (with envy)

@tylersoto7465 3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@NateAdamsMadeofAdams 3 жыл бұрын

Now I want a video on what happens if I got the One Ring

@MenoftheWest 3 жыл бұрын

Dude... if Nate Adams got the One Ring.. RIP Middle-earth, it doesn’t stand a chance.

@NateAdamsMadeofAdams 3 жыл бұрын

I often think back to this reply and it makes me smile

@paulwagner688 3 жыл бұрын

"For the Ring corrupts absolutely". In all the legendarium, this is the most true. As Gandalf said in "The Shadow of the Past", no matter what the nature of the bearer, sooner or later the Ring would consume them utterly. If Manwe Himself were to put on the Ring, he would be transformed into something far worse than Melkor. We must trust in Iluvatar and know that ALL things redound to His Glory.

@tominiowa2513 3 жыл бұрын

The One Ring would not consume Bombadil, since he is a sui generis creation of Eru Ilúvatar immune to its effects.

@paulwagner688 3 жыл бұрын

@@tominiowa2513 "Say not that he has power over the Ring. Rather, the Ring has no power over him"--Gandalf, to paraphrase

@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 3 жыл бұрын

Here's a What If idea: What If Smaug killed Bilbo and took the ring for himself. It's corrupting effect would possibly make him want more than the treasure under the mountain. He'll want all of middle earth to bow to him and offer him great tributes in return for their lives spared from his enhanced flames.

@Starman256 3 жыл бұрын

interesting idea, but how would he even wear it?

@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 3 жыл бұрын

Given the ring shrunk to fit Isildur when he got a hold of it it's possible for the ring to grow large enough to fit Smaug's claws

@kenroyjustin 3 жыл бұрын

😰😱😰

@Starman256 3 жыл бұрын

@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 good point

@whtbobwntsbobget 3 жыл бұрын

Would it even have worked on dragons? What about eagles then?

@WestCoastEnclave 3 жыл бұрын

Saruman:"Do you know what the Dwarfs awoke in the darkness of Khazad-Dum? Shadow...and flames." Gandalf:"I am the shadow...and I am the flames."

@janpavel1107 3 жыл бұрын

I am the one who knocks! Oops..sorry, wrong franchise!

@glorfification 3 жыл бұрын

"Let me explain, Frodo. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too."

@timonsolus 3 жыл бұрын

"Alright, Gandalf. I'll give you the Ring, and in return, you can give me a rock."

@tylersoto7465 3 жыл бұрын

Gandalf: frodo heres a guitar now your a ROCKSTAR LMAO 😂

@randysavage1 3 жыл бұрын

" power TENDS to corrupt"

@elias_xp95 2 жыл бұрын

@@randysavage1 Power always corrupts. Even if the corruption is something trival.

@Mattathais 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best “What ifs” out there. Definitely gonna listen again on the way home.

@blake714 3 жыл бұрын

The theory hurts. my heart felt heavy. I understand the "what if..?" but to see Gandalf in such a way...I have no words for it

@MrWill7980 3 жыл бұрын

Same here. When I realized the moment that Gandalf is keeping the Ring, I almost felt sick to my stomach! And at the White Council when they suggested Gandalf put on the Ring, I was mentally screaming "Burn it! Throw it in a fire and the markings reappear!" But, the Ring corrupts....

@sagebias2251 3 жыл бұрын

Excelent video. My thoughts 1) Gandalf eventually would be tricked by Sauron into giving the ring to Sauron. They would become of one mind, and Sauron would be better able to use the ring to accomplish their collective aims. 2) Illuvitar would not let this happen. He revived Gandalf to defeat Sauron. Somehow he would prevent this. 3) Even Gandalf could not conquer Tom Bombadil.

@BJETNT 2 жыл бұрын

If there was one person on Middle Earth that could resist the effects of the Ring I think it was gandalf. Out of all the creatures on Middle Earth he did the most good out of all of them. I don't think it would be that easy for sauron to overtake him. There was no will on Middle Earth more able to create good and see what was going on then Gandalf. Why is sauron always the greatest will in the Middle Earth? Gandalf is of the same level is him. If anybody could have used it for good it was him. And no I don't count Tom bombadil

@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын

@@BJETNT what if the brown wizard gets the ring?

@andrewg.carvill4596 Жыл бұрын

@@BJETNT In the book, the chapter 'the Shadow of the Past', Gandalf explains to Frodo that this is not true, and implies that to believe this would be Gandalf's greatest temptation and Sauron's greatest lie. In some ways the whole epic is about the temptation of will-to-power, that is will-to-order-all things, which corrupts by making the one who succumbs to it become diabolic, the destroyer of all freedoms bar his own.

@puzzlingcentaur 3 жыл бұрын

I can't get enough of this. Each of your theories/alternate universes are amazing.

@georgipopov8973 3 жыл бұрын

Please do a "What if Gollum had remained faithful to Frodo" video. Great work!

@n00n87 3 жыл бұрын

Really happy to see this remade! This has long been my favourite theory of yours, and I always appreciated the realism and sticking to a possible, inevitable, outcome of one of the ainur taking the one ring.

@mrwalronda 3 жыл бұрын

Great updated video Yoystan! And also an amazing surprise in the middle of the week!

@christianwilliams2617 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE these 'What If' stories! I did have a question, though, if it wouldn't be a bother to see idea from. Is it possible that there can be a 'What If Sauron Stayed Good' or 'What If Gollum Became Good' theory? Anyways, love your content, as always!

@Thentherewasbim 3 жыл бұрын

I second this request

@Jesse_andrew 3 жыл бұрын

I third

@hudsonball4702 3 жыл бұрын

HAH! You put this video out today on the same day I happen to find my long lost prec... The One Ring replica.

@emmonstrex65 3 жыл бұрын

I agree- this revamped theory is more spot on. Amazing talent, thx for posting!💯

@YakMotley 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Great video!

@AC-zn1ty 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your musings. There are many lessons to be learned in the LOTR, that is why it remains in my heart and heard back collection for all these years. When I need some encouragement it is always good to review. Keep up the great work! Camber here.

@Steel-101 3 жыл бұрын

Oooooh I love “what if” videos! Thank you Mr. West! 😎👍🏼

@Strifegar 3 жыл бұрын

Dang man, awesome work. Seriously, you've outdone yourself. I read the title and everything and I was still sitting here saying to myself "That's not how it happened, right?" Haha. It gets no better than Men of the West!!

@MrAchilleez 3 жыл бұрын

This was so good. I’d love to read that alternate timeline anytime

@theflourishersguild9010 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect! This makes me want to do an Aragorn or Gandalf piece of artwork! Thanks for the inspiration!

@DamonNomad82 3 жыл бұрын

Mae Govannon Yoystan! I've always loved contemplating this scenario, and I'm glad you revisited it.

@orrointhewise87 3 жыл бұрын

“Don’t....tempt me Frodo. I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe” Just goes to show u; either u die a hero or live long enough to become the villain 😏 Very glad this did not come to pass, Gandalf the White is a far better outcome than Gandalf the Black 😬

@willjackson7548 3 жыл бұрын

These videos are just 👌 absolutely spot on and I love it!

@davidrider9866 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. Well done

@benturner3458 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome mate. Brilliant stuff

@freezalo7521 3 жыл бұрын

Yay my favorite video from you has been updated

@ChaoticHarmony431 3 жыл бұрын

I preferred the OG theory, but this was enjoyable too. Keep up the good work ^^

@coleton7048 3 жыл бұрын

This is fantastically well done!

@arlo5740 3 жыл бұрын

I love the dark lord gandalf art it is so scary! Awesome theory as always.

@roberthornibrook6344 3 жыл бұрын

Ohh update! Love it!

@hynjus001 3 жыл бұрын

This was so well done!

@sethwallwork3670 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this I like to see all the creators videos on this theory

@djlejeune-author 3 жыл бұрын

Wow well done!

@ChrisLfc92 3 жыл бұрын

You Should do a theory on Sauron winning and the host of the valar coming back to beat him!

@bigmo611 3 жыл бұрын

I liked the first one, but this one is even better! Thanks a lot!

@fatrick9001 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty compelling and likely seeming take.. Well done.

@CantGetEnoughBach 3 жыл бұрын

Well done! As Tolkien himself illustrated so well, the familiar adage "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely," still, without exception, applies to all created beings. May all take heed, like Cirdan, and avoid the deadly perils of pride and lust for power. Such may be done only in cooperation with Iluvatar. The sacred beauty of free-will depends entirely on the Designer's plan from Creation until the final Return of the King.

@fgtrhwu2 3 жыл бұрын

I very nearly decided to not go to work, thinking it's a Sunday. Thx for the bonus video

@invisiblejaguar1 Жыл бұрын

I like both versions of the theory, you tell it well as always 🙂

@RadBrad1986 3 жыл бұрын

Good job on this video! At some points in this video, you could branch it off into different part two's.

@Starman256 3 жыл бұрын

love the video, my man

@TK-si3nb 2 жыл бұрын

I would absolutely love to see a video about what would of happened if Pippin hadn’t of awakened the goblins and balrog in Moria. How long would Gandalf have stayed grey if he didn’t fall?

@JeffYPbPr 3 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome what if. Great job

@yogidemis8513 3 жыл бұрын

Whaaaaaaaaat!!!! A new video on a Wednesday. Today is a good day.

@jameshetfield3105 3 жыл бұрын

I have always wondered if this scenerio played out ever since seeing that scene where gandalf tells why he wouldent wield the ring.

@joshivanmel Жыл бұрын

He probably knew that he will be a far terrible Ring-Lord than Sauron. He is smart and thats scary. He definitely knew this would happen

@monomakes 3 жыл бұрын

Magic stuff! Well told😎

@brianmessemer2973 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating take

@trollkenobi6727 3 жыл бұрын

You will not stop me, Gandalf will become more powerful than either of us!

@darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 2 жыл бұрын

Much fait in your aprentice, you have.

@whoopwhoop3660 3 жыл бұрын

well thought written and spoken!

@tathemrelag3123 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't Tolkien say that if another Maiar, a High Elf, or a sufficiently strong-willed Dunedain became master of the One, Sauron would be destroyed in the same way he was when the One was destroyed?

@mechadoggy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@_Kalfy 10 ай бұрын

Exactly but then a new Sauron might appear

@taylenday 9 ай бұрын

That would be hilarious, because it would imply that Gandalf should have taken the ring from Frodo and that would've been the end of it.

@michellejacoby1241 3 жыл бұрын

Love this 💜

@hummakavula3750 3 жыл бұрын

That was exceptional 👏

@tomcross3000 Жыл бұрын

i liked your previous version too tbh, both of them were very skilfully broken down

@shanenolan8252 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks this was a pleasant surprise

@JesusIstMuslim 3 жыл бұрын

this was sweet, thank you good sir.

@Robridgy93 3 жыл бұрын

Saw this uploaded and I was instantly confused on what day it was lol awesome video dude

@MenoftheWest 3 жыл бұрын

LOL same while I was making it, I keep thinking today is Sunday haha

@lordoftherings999 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank thee for gathering all these informations 😊 Just an (albeit minor) detail: Tolkien himself stated that, if Saruman took the Ring, he would set himself in Barad-dûr and the Dark Tower wouldn’t be destroyed (also because it was founded upon the Ring). I also questioned which is the meaning of the sentence: “The Ring would be the master at the end” (in the letter that explains what would happen if Gandalf took the Ring). Doth it mean that Sauron would come back, or simply that the Ring would corrupt Middle Earth as if Sauron was wearing it? Anyway really thank thee 😊

@anactaneustheeleventh2542 3 жыл бұрын

This is one was good, love the lines of the characters.

@gandalf7262 3 жыл бұрын

Fools, stop imagining to take the Ring. The One Ring is evil and has his own will. The Ring must be destroyed

@jacobdoster4054 3 жыл бұрын

I like this one better than the original good job!

@hairfine5150 3 жыл бұрын

This was awesome.

@omarflores9011 2 жыл бұрын

He will bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to his new empire

@johnpatricktan5545 3 жыл бұрын

Woooo an interesting topic to ponder on...

@nathaniellong4281 3 жыл бұрын

These theories on what if Gandalf took the ring remind me of a video made by MatPat at Film Theory some years ago. He was addressing the question about should the Ring had been flown to Mordor by the Eagles. To answer that question, he said he read every Lord of The Rings material, including the books and Tolkien's letters. In his video, he said that the only race that made the best Ringbearers were the Hobbits because the more powerful a race is, the greater the Ring's corruption, and Hobbits are actually the weakest race in Tolkien's Legendarium. Gandalf being a Maiar, meaning one of the Ainur, makes him a member of the most powerful race in Middle Earth, with only the Valar, more powerful Ainur, in Vallinor and Eru Illuvatar, the true God of of the universe(who lives outside the universe in the Timeless Halls), being more powerful. This is why any what if where Gandalf takes the Ring will not end well for Middle Earth, and if I remember correctly, Tolkien himself said so in one of his letters.

@JoshTerror 3 жыл бұрын

This is perfect. It's quite the cautionary tale.

@NANA-kf1cs 3 жыл бұрын

Please do "What if the ents didn't attack Isengard?"

@zzzl4656 3 жыл бұрын

Whoa. It’s Wednesday and we got a video yasssss

@MrKzup 3 жыл бұрын

Much better than than the previous version,

@hexmaster23 2 жыл бұрын

Sauron: Task failed successfully

@Crafty_Spirit 3 жыл бұрын

Hi guys, somewhat of a random question. Do you think that Sauron was only able to rebuild his body after the downfall of Numenor because the ring tied him to the earth? I'm not sure if he had the ability to recover a physical form without the ring, and here's why: Morgoth was afraid of fighting on his own because he knew he could perish for good if he'd be slain. None of the eliminated Balrogs apparently ever returned, and Saruman was said to wander the earth as an 'immaterial' spirit after he was stabbed. And Gandalf after dying returned on behalf of Eru we are told. Could it therefor be that Maiar can only return to physical form after being slain if some powerful extra magic is at work?

@ElessarTelcontar9709 3 жыл бұрын

nice two videos this week

@jamesbodnarchuk3322 3 жыл бұрын

Bad Gandalf = the domination of middle earth! Great Video!

@skatemetrix 2 жыл бұрын

This remake is even better and to have the White Council meet again makes perfect sense.

@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video

@ProfessorChaos56 3 жыл бұрын

"Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great)". -Tolkien

@melkormorgothbauglir.4848 3 жыл бұрын

I know in the timeline this make's no sense but please do what if Melkor had the one ring?

@sphere9457 3 жыл бұрын

Melkor is a tier above Sauron in terms of godhood so it probably would do nothing. He could just snap it in half with his fingers if he wanted.

@eldritchyarnbeing3295 2 жыл бұрын

"im not trying to rob you, im trying to help you" me when im trying to get something out of my dogs mouth

@sagebias2251 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible.

@DarthKhayman420 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone always asks this and imagines him getting it when its offered to him. But I want to know what would happen if Gandalf the White got the one ring. Would he be more powerful than Gandalf the grey getting it. Would he be able to control it better since alot more of his actual self was unlocked when he resurrected or would it still corrupt him just as fast.

@Talion-jv1zp 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Could you maybe make a theory video about an alternative event in the first or second age. For example: What would have happened if Feanor survived the fight with the Balrogs?

@Feanor6450 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure but I wish I hadn't died

@tmwbadh 2 жыл бұрын

"Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks! I'm not trying to help you, I'm trying to rob you."

@willc1294 Жыл бұрын

lol sounds like something a dodgy politician would accidentally say out loud to his voters :D

@TealWolf26 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely enjoy the what-ifs though I feel like often times it goes much more ill or with mixed results at best. I suppose much of it lends to just how frayed and thin the fate of the Free Peoples hung by that only the faintest of hopes would save them. And it did, barely. What could have been done better? What could have put Saruman or even Sauron on the backfoot in the scope of LOTR? What decisions would have been better?

@Son-of-Tyr 2 жыл бұрын

Damn....good theory. Very accurate, in my opinion. 👍

@jakegetsreel4024 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to reupload the original video? I like this one, but it's a little hard to follow.

@willc1294 Жыл бұрын

This is quite good but I recall another video about if Gandalf had taken the ring, which was imo better, maybe it was a different channel, I'll have to look around youtube.

@sageofcaledor8188 3 жыл бұрын

That is a good video. But would have it gone differently if he ignored Sauron? Or will it delay the inevitable? Like In his pity, Gandalf is enraged the Valar stood back and allowed middle earth to suffer under their watch.

@android584 3 жыл бұрын

Very good although required methods of testing the ring other than personally wearing it to be discarded. I think Sauron could be killed without any impact on the outcome. Unless he cannot be killed without destroying the ring? The most entertaining One ring theory for me was it being discarded in the ocean. Thanks for the video.

@jackmcdonnell8505 3 жыл бұрын

Please do a video on Sting one day

@arturleperoke3205 3 жыл бұрын

Very Nice Video Men of the West! I think Sauron would have still held supreme power over the 9 Nazgul? 'Sauron, who still through their nine rings (which he held) had primary control of their wills' -> from a Letter of Tolkien. 'At length Sauron resolved that no others would serve him in this case but his mightiest servants, the Ringwraiths, who had no will but his own, being each utterly subservient to the ring that had enslaved him, which Sauron held' -> from unfinished Tales Also I have slight doubts that Gandalf would team up with the rest of the council, since the rings prime effect on others was to deceive them in believing that they have supreme power.