What If GOKU Killed VEGETA in the SAIYAN SAGA? Full Story

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What if Goku's Kaioken x4 Kamehameha killed Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga of Dragon Ball Z?
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After the 23rd World Tournament, Goku begins to spare his enemies in a way he never had before. Seemingly a mix of selfish desires and seeing the good in others. One of the crucial characters to be saved by Goku’soutlook is Vegeta, but what happens if he doesn’t spare Vegeta specifically. More than that, what if Goku killed Vegeta himself, not just telling Krillin to do it?
Some may be thinking he couldn’t do this, but there’s one specific moment it could have happened. When the iconic Kamehameha-Galick Gun clash happens, Goku uses a Kaioken x 4, making his power level 32,000 compared to Vegeta’s meager 18,000. A bit of extra force and the motivation to kill Vegeta would be more than enough to take out Vegeta in one attack.
So the day is won. Goku stands triumphant, but also in pain due to overusing the Kaioken; however, more importantly than anything - Goku hasn’t been crushed so his recovery time is far less. Of course, Krillin still suggests they go to Namek in order to revive their friends so how will a Namek without Vegeta change events?
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@toanuva6178 2 жыл бұрын

Tarble: “Welp…Guess *I’m* The Prince of All Sayians now.”

@monkedray6431 2 жыл бұрын

@ghost.8836 2 жыл бұрын

*Toriyama proceeds to send him to a corner with Launch.*

@Guest21178 2 жыл бұрын

Haaha

@YourAverageRobloxian659 2 жыл бұрын

Broly would have won. BOTH brolys

@dusk6159 2 жыл бұрын

@@YourAverageRobloxian659 Ironically, Vegeta broke against Z Broly, but yeah he was still definitely needed to bring the end result of Goku being able to destroy Broly.

@shade08538 2 жыл бұрын

“Sorry about this best buddy! HAAAA!” “Wai- WHAT THE FAAA-“ *dies*

@ytjazz1011 2 жыл бұрын

That would be funny to hear from tfs

@840fahim 2 жыл бұрын

Your story telling of these what ifs is one of the best my man! And the video quality is so good, actually helps to imagine things clearly. Props to the editior!

@CarthusDojo 2 жыл бұрын

I’m the editor so thanks lol

@840fahim 2 жыл бұрын

@@CarthusDojo OP editior indeed! Keep up the good work man.

@mikeakers7107 2 жыл бұрын

I've enjoyed every single one of your videos so far.. my question is since Gohan is clearly the strongest wouldn't he potentially keep training instead of studying and have a new form by the time frieza showed up, and would frieza actually have trained for 4 months still?

@840fahim 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeakers7107 Gohan never liked to fight. He only fought out of necessity. His dream was to be a scholar. It never had anything to do with his potential or power.

@840fahim 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeBody-_-Yt greatest potential among the living half Saiyans. Probably, coz Goten learned super Saiyan at 6 and without training with Goku and didn't even get his potential unlocked, not even once. But that's besides the point friend. Gohan doesn't even want to fight. So why would he train when the world is at peace, just like when we saw in DBS. I'm not saying he couldn't have become the strongest, he very much can, but he just doesn't have the desire or drive.

@Heatrecks 2 жыл бұрын

Rip our boys Gogeta and Vegito

@Teriyaki-BoyXV 2 жыл бұрын

And Veku

@nadis6286 2 жыл бұрын

@@Teriyaki-BoyXV im sorry but who?

@Vinsmokesosa 2 жыл бұрын

Nadiya .S (fat gogeta)

@mlpaap 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadis6286 skinny gogeta I think

@Heatrecks 2 жыл бұрын

@@Teriyaki-BoyXV We lost a real one...

@MarcBienenfeld 2 жыл бұрын

oh come now Bulma is such a genius im sure she could easily figure out how to control Freezer's ship and goku would no doubt find the Muffin Button

@Remorin. 3 ай бұрын

The muffin button is a dragon ball z abridged reference for those who dont know

@Sifi999 3 ай бұрын

MUFFIN

@MarcBienenfeld 3 ай бұрын

BUTTON

@coyolord8031 3 ай бұрын

she may have had a few guesses as to what each button did. but with no confirmation, she couldn't start clicking random buttons because she of all people knows not to click random buttons on foreign technology.

@brandonfrancey5592 2 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem I have with "what if's" is a lot of Dragon Ball's plot devices are designed to match their current situation. Goku needed 5 Saiyan's specifically because there were 4 available and was used to introduce Videl being pregnant. The Dragon balls often have limits and are imposed for the story they are telling. When the story changes, so do the rules and it's hand waved as them being recreated. 1 wish, 2 wishes, 3 wishes. What ever number doesn't break the story. It doesn't matter how much you change Goku or how strong you make him, the villain will always be magically stronger than Goku, but Goku will have a new level to obtain so he can win.

@Supahdenning 2 жыл бұрын

I think treating these obviously improvised plot elements as if they were serious constants is a big part of the fun of these, imo. Seeing how they interact with other factors and the consequences they have in situations far removed from their original intent is quite fascinating.

@UnwantedGhost1 2 жыл бұрын

Plague of Gripes perfectly exemplifies everything wrong with all of the fights essentially being the same with new paint in his "power level" video.

@Phantom-kc9ly Жыл бұрын

@@UnwantedGhost1 the choreography is amazing in Z. Tell me Goku vs Cell or Majin Vegeta vs Goku isn't amazing

@InfernosReaper 2 ай бұрын

Honestly, they could just get Broly and his dad for the Beerus plotline anyway.

@thepancakeexpert 2 ай бұрын

That's just dragon ball in general honestly, not just what ifs

@valiensr1037 2 жыл бұрын

I’d argue that Goku would find a way to train with Beerus and attain God power without the ritual, seeing as Vegeta was able to. That’s just my own opinion though, and I loved your story

@bulellaftiu3012 2 жыл бұрын

But still Goku probably wouldn't think about it soon and he never had a feeling with god ki so lets say he started training the same time as he did originally then he probably wouldn't have ssjb and even if he did it would be super draining probably more then frieza's golden form

@Nealetony 2 жыл бұрын

Vegeta only got it through training because he had seen and felt goku's transformation.

@animemusic6948 2 жыл бұрын

@@bulellaftiu3012 I'd argue cause vegetal had never really observed good ki. He was not able to feel it so really all vegetal saw was goku’s hair turn to a different color.

@riddlerthediddler4392 2 жыл бұрын

Vegeta participated in the ritual, so he likely had inherited the ki required to unlock super saiyan god through it

@koichi_36539 2 жыл бұрын

And also I think your forgetting that you need six sayians for super Salian god and if vegetas dead then your missing a sayian

@lvl7867 2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t watched it all yet but this guy right here doesn’t miss with his what if’s

@YungWar 2 жыл бұрын

Carthu still does his work no matter what circumstances he is in! Love u man

@gamergoku932 2 жыл бұрын

I love the editing in this what-if! It really complements your narration and makes your stories much more lively!

@theuh3205 2 жыл бұрын

the visuals in this is jawdropping

@matti.8465 2 жыл бұрын

Pibara: Genius idea, Son Gohan! Bring that monster to our planet knowing I could use spirit fission to revert it back to its primal form! Gohan: Haha yeah....totally what I was thinking...

@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

Could Pibara & the Yardrats sense Perfect Cell's energy?

@claudioandkindash7761 2 ай бұрын

@@UnwantedGhost1 dont make a plot hole pls

@coyolord8031 2 ай бұрын

@@claudioandkindash7761 it's not a plot hole. the simple answer is YES. they've mastered spirit control their entire life. if the z-fighters can see differences in energy. than so can the yardrats.

@ruccolo6965 2 жыл бұрын

I wish that this story still had YOU FOOOOOL!

@socialaccount0000 2 жыл бұрын

One of your better stories, well done! (And if you really wanted, you could've done GT. But I also know you mostly follow the super continuity)

@kamui9291 2 жыл бұрын

That’s because super is the main timeline it wouldn’t make sense to follow the gt timeline

@mr.preston1632 2 жыл бұрын

@@kamui9291 Wasn’t it decided that GT is hovering in a void of cannon and not cannon? Still, could have had more stories on GT

@CoachKayveezzy 2 жыл бұрын

Gt gets no love and it's so frustrating that why I love the sayian scholar

@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.preston1632 It's a separate alternate timeline that's not canon to Akira Toriyama's main timeline.

@KopperNeoman Жыл бұрын

@markanthony3399 It's not the current main timeline, which is what "canon" means in Dragon Ball.

@kaiokenfandubs 2 жыл бұрын

You should've renamed it "If all the support characters were still relevant"

@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

For a brief moment in time.

@captain5977 2 жыл бұрын

Ayyyyy I didn't expect this now. Have a Nice Trip Tho

@WeedBat 2 жыл бұрын

A new what if from both you and salad! This stuff is what i live for.

@WillRennar 2 жыл бұрын

A refreshing twist on the Future Trunks arc. Nice work, man!

@Tactumic9 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Love the remakes, keep it up!

@submino7216 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you were able to add powerlevels in this version of your What If. You should definitely keep that up, as I am a big fan of powerlevels, and would also hope to see your version of powerlevels in dragonball. Good Work.

@henjin4671 2 жыл бұрын

Love your stories Carthu😭 keep up the good work Your the best thing to appear on KZfaq

@clayghostfan 2 жыл бұрын

Bro this is incredible keep up the amazing work

@saiyaninjafromvillagehidde8115 2 жыл бұрын

7:34 No matter how many twists and alterations the story may get Krillin will always get owned 🤣🤣

@gualgulil6557 2 жыл бұрын

I already know this is going to be good

@LachlansGamingWorld 2 жыл бұрын

You should do some GT what if’s for fun. I know it ain’t canon but would be pretty cool. Love the videos, keep it up man.

@captinsuperninja9719 2 жыл бұрын

That is the coolest thumbnail ever!

@ilbtz67 Жыл бұрын

late as hell but this might be my favorite what if you've done. it goes a very different direction than many of the other ones, I love the addition of future gohan and the stop at yardrat (both times). awesome stuff!

@gojoissexygaming 2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the work man

@mathiewi8020 2 жыл бұрын

I got so hype when force spirit fission was used! Good shit, Carthu!

@juliekilkus4510 2 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite thing today! Such a good listen for a Monday.

@atzclan2093 2 жыл бұрын

1:35 Bruh Capsule Coap

@TonyStark-vq9uu 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@GemGen 2 жыл бұрын

Bruhseph

@christophermckinney2306 2 жыл бұрын

I know you did a what if on Gohan training over the 7 years but would a video on him training between the time he left Namek and the 3 year time skip make that significant of a difference in the story?

@1Jcfc 2 жыл бұрын

The editing on this video is top notch

@kaudriyt8196 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mr. Carthu!! For these amazng stories

@guardsman1418 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one 1st time I see a video 1 minute after the video is uploaded

@Dayle4321 2 жыл бұрын

Carthu Sama, your story telling ability is exceptional. I listen to these WhatIf scenarios intently and you describe them so well the mental image of the characters and locations are so vivid in my mind. You sir, have a gift!

@animepillz 2 жыл бұрын

I really really enjoyed this. great stopry telling

@x-track5190 2 жыл бұрын

This was really lit

@rds1635 2 жыл бұрын

Loving the new format! What's this music?

@javonharris9295 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone hire this man??? This is straight quality gold

@burgerlover4574 11 ай бұрын

Hire him where ? 💀

@souptikchakraborty2004 5 ай бұрын

@@burgerlover4574as that narrator guy who says, "Next time on Dragon Ball Z..." Maybe...who knows what this guy meant when he said *hire* ?

@andrew_bro0830 2 жыл бұрын

9:35 *shows a clear shadow of future trunks. there was only one boy from the future *suddenly future gohan appears. Me=wait what

@The_real_dbz_fan 4 ай бұрын

Boutta get 1000000 subs good job, keep up the work

@broggy52 3 ай бұрын

Just 14k more to go

@OfficialCyaned 6 ай бұрын

Finally found this video once again, it's interesting to see how many things could change if Vegeta was never spared.

@Thedarksenshi 2 ай бұрын

I like these What-If stories. Gotta listen to more since my time is freeing up.

@jameswalker8362 2 жыл бұрын

The thought of god ki would entice Goku to train under Whis, which may cause Gohan to want to come along too. So I think that, even if Frieza came along, I think he would still not succeed. Great vid though! I love your work. How do you make these vids?

@spiderbhyd3 2 жыл бұрын

Goku vs majin buu would probably be affected or any time they needed to fuse

@imold4274 2 жыл бұрын

True!

@sumoman7633 2 жыл бұрын

Beerus gets curious with goku and gohan and decides to train both if gohan is willing. Ssjg is unlocked the way vegeta did it and blue is then discovered. I personally hope for a potential continuation to this series as it's kinda weird that vegeta isnt here but welcome nonetheless

@rizkyraxus8929 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. btw I have a request, could you do a dragon ball what if video, but instead of using DB super timeline, you use DB GT timeline?

@jackthecottofanknuff3950 2 жыл бұрын

What about Broly, or Vegeta’s brother for the super sayin god.

@twinblade9562 2 жыл бұрын

Yea if whis can find anyone in the universe than it should be possible

@CarthusDojo 2 жыл бұрын

Tarble and Broly MAY have righteous hearts but Paragus definitely doesn’t and there’s no Videl in this story because Mr Satan didn’t defeat Cell so no Satan City or anything so they’re still one short.

@840fahim 2 жыл бұрын

@@CarthusDojo also tarble and Broly arrives way later in the story so not possible that way either even with 'any' woman that ends up with Gohan. Unless Goku becomes a bunny and they start dropping kids left and right

@wthomas8383 2 жыл бұрын

@@840fahim Wait a second. Goku got revved this time so he's on Earth for the 7 years until the Buu Saga. Think he and Chi Chi can, 1x or 2x ... nvm even with Goten that would mean 3 kids in 7 years and it took about 11 or more to even get the first two 🤣

@calvinkopp1735 2 жыл бұрын

@@CarthusDojo That doesn’t happen in What if Goku went Super Saiyan early, SS2 Goku defeated Cell, Satan didn’t became a hero but that doesn’t stop Gohan meeting and marring Videl.

@teresaartibey3176 2 жыл бұрын

Bro this is amazing

@shamebot5341 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid bro👍

@KiritoZorono 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man ths is so cool!

@estebanmares681 10 ай бұрын

If Vegeta died, Piccolo, Yamch, Tien and Krillin would have more screen time lol

@thescotsman2071 2 жыл бұрын

Hey what's the name of the music used at 5:30?

@violetrapture3776 9 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this and didn't expect the reference to the DBS manga. I liked this one. What about Tarble? Do you think he would have come to earth in search of his brother? Maybe that's how they could have achieved super saiyan god?

@Ooopy4723epikgamergod 2 жыл бұрын

I bloody love these what ifs

@GemGen 2 жыл бұрын

EPIC MATE

@DrDuke 2 жыл бұрын

I binge all of these videos

@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

I just noticed quite the number of rhymes. Like as if a fusion of Dr Sues & William Shakespeare wrote these lines.

@montesoul 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't whis just find Tarble and Broly during battle of gods??

@montesoul 2 жыл бұрын

And Gohan still meets Videl so that's all the saiyans they need for the god ritual 👀 (assuming Goten is conceived)

@g.o.dvegeta9194 Жыл бұрын

@@montesoulWhat about tournament of power?

@diego13325 2 жыл бұрын

do next a video about " what if the OG Broly show up in namek in the freeza saga"

@tinashehwata8123 2 жыл бұрын

I fly like the way carthu edits

@mowgoescoo 2 жыл бұрын

I love the freeza impression

@nexu9624 2 жыл бұрын

I think this was a really good video but the thing is there were a lot of points where things just couldn't happen the way you put it no matter what.

@slashhaiden4027 2 жыл бұрын

think about this: roshi could have beat cell using the mafuba.

@RadeticDaniel 2 жыл бұрын

Not really, Cell knew every technique of every one he got genetic material from (for reasons). And Piccolo (Mayunia) had developed and used the mafuba-gaeshi (counter mafuba) against kami in the 23rd world martial arts tournament.

@Josh-dm8uw 2 жыл бұрын

@@RadeticDaniel you hella smart

@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere 2 жыл бұрын

@@RadeticDaniel also based on how easy Frost was able to reflect it and the tournament of power I'm pretty sure it would be very easy for cell to reflect it

@RadeticDaniel 2 жыл бұрын

@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere oh yeah, the power gap by itself would neutralize Roshi. I went with the mafuba gaeshi because it would make the technique pointless for other stronger fighters as well =)

@Supahdenning 2 жыл бұрын

@@RadeticDaniel He knows them because Gero's spy robots recorded and analysed them all. With Piccolo's techs this would be justifiable either way because Namekians have genetic memory. The only thing unaccounted for is Freeza's techniques that he never used on Earth

@maloygoswami6568 2 жыл бұрын

Say Carthu, how did you make your anime dragon ball character named Carthu, which editor or app did you use and how can we make one anime fan made dragon ball character

@rxsty8683 2 жыл бұрын

I believe that you should have used brolly but its fine keep up the good work

@deividasltu9522 Жыл бұрын

Well i'd say supreme kai would still offer gohan to train and get the z sword out, getting elder kai out once goku would come to see gohans training progress with the z sword, thus making him ultimate, then beerus comes and if you really want continue this for fun, they could scout the otherworld for the saiyans of old that made yamoshi ssjgod, so they return for a die hel goku out, beerus gets satisfied and on resurrection of F, gohan would hold frieza off for a bit, goku comes back (Since there's no vegeta here, goku is a lot weaker) and well he doesn't stand a chance, but i think he has ssjblue, but he unlocked it like the same day, so its a brand new form can't use it for long, so i think goku just gets potara earrings since they don't know about fusion dance and defeats frieza as gokhan, they would turn in to an ultimate god form combining the two or just ssjblue (Blue works aswell since the fusion would have an easier time handling the form thats what i think). The rest you could imagine urself and btw i think on goku black arc future gohan would have ssj3 and they still manage to defeat goku black and zamasu with gohan unlocking ssj rage (same as future trunks in main timeline). T.O.P would happen aswell... less chances of winning i think, but possible.

@kingshadow8782 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@grahamhill2277 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome finish with the forced spirit fission. I wasn't expecting that.

@OverLord3693 2 жыл бұрын

Carthu my man you gotta do a "What if Earth was moved to universe 6?" Video

@sprunch_alox 2 жыл бұрын

"NAAIIILLLLLLLLL...I saw a bird..it was pretty"

@Abubakardapro123 2 жыл бұрын

Please can you continue you can make it so they ask shenron how to make a ssg they find out you need 5 rightus sayans or you need to train with a god ki holder (whis) and goku trains with whis making him get ssgss and chi chi hearing the death of her future self (because of future gohan) allows goku to train 24/7 making him get blue evolution or blue kaioken X20 so he is strong enough to kill golden freaza. Also gohan (not wanting his friends dead) spars with goku on earth and gets god ki.

@Jellyman4 2 жыл бұрын

That Frieza impression tho 👌

@runeuchihawhatifsandgaming3783 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda just want another part where you go with crazy things that wouldn’t happen, but would for a kinda joke part maybe whis goes and gets broly and tarble to help out with the ritual and brings back the new revamped dbs bardock temporarily for the ritual.

@jay2shiesty20 2 жыл бұрын

Rip Chris but lowkey I think they should hire you for his voice because man you're good

@20tyler1996 2 жыл бұрын

They already have someone to do frieza chris had an understudy. He voiced frieza in dbz kakarot and part of the tournament of power arc

@supanatboontai1420 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do What if Goku went SSJG on Namek? (SSJG Legends never existed before)

@charliebann5605 2 жыл бұрын

Watch "What if Goku was born with God Ki" That is basically what you are saying

@puffy660 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliebann5605 its A LOT DIFFERENT

@supanatboontai1420 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliebann5605 nah

@mr.morale8662 2 жыл бұрын

how would he even reach ssg?

@supanatboontai1420 2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.morale8662 Because of What if

@mrpaintwolf2010 2 жыл бұрын

I know this will be a bit random, but im curious if you have made a version of your avatar in something like Xenoverse/XV2, be cool to see what moves you would be using/combat style

@emeliaasare6612 2 жыл бұрын

nice one

@borobai6410 2 жыл бұрын

Aye bro can you please continue with what if gohan was like goku

@SundownerMGRR 2 жыл бұрын

When he does the voices it makes me feel as if im a child going to bed and he is reading me a story

@astar1180 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do What if Krillin and Android 18 got a mini series like wandavision

@_xdeyobell_3144 2 жыл бұрын

Well golden frieza might never happen but it still could. I trust Carthu’s logic

@williamcartertindale11 2 жыл бұрын

I have an idea. What about combining what ifs? Like Goku being born with God Ki and sent to Beerus world. He would unlock SSG and MUI earlier through this most likely

@Alovon Жыл бұрын

Honestly feel that Goku would consult the Dragon Balls, and a more astute/focused Gohan would as well if not him. And even then Beerus would ask Whis what other Saiyans are in the Universe if any, therefore finding Tarble or Broly, both candidates for that final Saiyan for the ritual as they are pure of heart. And even then, I feel the think-tank that is Whis and Gohan would probably come to the idea that a Saiyan training under a God would also create a Super Saiyan God of some form.

@gavin639 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely great at these ever consider branching off into other verse's? Seems like DBZ quality what ifs blows away any other animes

@reservoir4798 2 жыл бұрын

The forced spirit fission was such a swerve I was not ready for

@simple9629 2 жыл бұрын

Suggestion: What if Beerus came to Broly instead of Goku and Vegeta when looking for the Super Saiyan God.

@mystic9847 2 жыл бұрын

He already made that. Called "What if Beerus went to Vampa instead?"

@simple9629 2 жыл бұрын

@@mystic9847 bruh

@AwkCrafty 5 ай бұрын

the voice acting goes so hard

@swerve-productions 2 жыл бұрын

Bro I got to ask can you please do what if android 19 turned good/reprogrammed?

@pokemonracer5540 2 жыл бұрын

Please someone tell me the name of the music that is used when Gohan transformed into Super Sayian 2.

@shapedlike____7305 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's an unreleased Kai theme called Wrath of the Gods, or Gohan's awakening.

@pokemonracer5540 2 жыл бұрын

@@shapedlike____7305 It is, thanks.

@nexsusplayer6341 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do one where goku landed on zenos world please. It would be super exciting and also cooler then the other one

@enderknight9279 2 жыл бұрын

Yo your frieza is pretty good (R.I.P Chris)

@HelloHello-re1zd 2 жыл бұрын

@2:59 Krillin power level:- 17,700 Carthu :- " *take it or leave it* "

@runeuchihawhatifsandgaming3783 2 жыл бұрын

I misread this being uploaded 4 months ago at first lol

@zerospeed1498 2 жыл бұрын

they could just use the dragon balls or whis to bring any remaining Saiyans to earth for the ritual

@zeno1090 2 жыл бұрын

What’s the name of the theme used at the start of the vid?

@simple9629 2 жыл бұрын

Wow i legit suggested this last video and it actually came up..

@bananaman7075 2 жыл бұрын

I have an idea for a what if maybe what if great ape had no drawbacks (aka no loss of control lumbering movements etc)

@Demonbeast_J 2 жыл бұрын

Can we get a if carthuru was in dragon ball full story pt2 and if goku yoused kaioken and ultra instants two

@ginaldweasley4304 2 жыл бұрын

I love how sadistic cell was I think it was what he should've been in the anime