The most unrealistic thing here is UK apologizing to Ireland.

Ayy lmao so what we get eventually is another American vs Soviet world lmao

With the liberal use of nukes in WW2, the Cold War going nuclear might not be as intolerable an idea for the Allies to consider.

A deadlier cold war for certain. This scenario would normalize the use of nukes. Eventually, even the hydrogen bomb would be used in combat.

Turkey and Spain joining the axis would be more realistic

World: a toxic waste-ground Turkey: breaths easy..

Video 1: Let's make a thought experiment, no matter how unrealistic the Germans and Soviets are allies. Video 3: Let's make the entire premise null and void.

You can do a video about " what if USA joined Germany"!.

"What if Japan attacked Russia with nazis " more realistic topic

everybody gangsta till america makes nukes a "conventional weapon"

Germany: Couldn't bomb Britain US: Fine I'll do it myself

Hoi4: actually Britain would have no troops in the uk as they all would be fighting in Africa for some reason

The first two in this series were really good, this one kinda felt a bit off.

The odd thing about this series is that the soviet union and germany suddenly possess a navy that matches the allies. How did this happen in such a short time? These countries both had laughably sized navies compared to the massive navies of the US and the UK. How did they create a massive navy without seriously hampering the other armed forces and the industry? How did the united states and the british simply let them outgrow their own navies? When germany tried to match the british before ww1 they utterly failed to match british shipbuilding. Now of course they have all of europe at their command, but how could they ever hope to match the american industry. An industry which I might add, is completely untouched by war, unlike europe.

Ruined by the fact the very limited number of nukes was not taken into consideration. They probably only had those two nukes that they have used on Japan in 1945.

1:36 Britain would be hard pressed to cover all of its southern coastline. A quick map check before devising this scenario would have bee advisable. Britain doesn't need to cover most of its southern coastline as its rocks and cliffs, there's very few beaches. This is why Britain is so hard to invade from this direction. You need to head far out west where the channel is many times wider or to the Thames estuary if you're serious about invading. Incidentally historically in the age of sail ships tended to sail down the Channel on the French side, not the English, because if there was a storm they could beach, on the English side if they were caught between two ports they'd be blown into the rocks. Even today pleasure boats and the odd cargo vessel have this problem. Hence the English side of the Channel is the most shipwrecked stretch of water in the world.

At 5:30. Yes, both USSR and Reich were years behind the US in the atomic race, but combined German technology with Soviet resoutces could significantly speed up the project.

Smol brain: What if X joined the Axis in WW2 Galactic brain: What if Germany joined the Allies in WW2 👀

An alternative part 3 without nukes would be greatly appreciated

There were not that many nukes that early. The US had only 7 nukes in July 1946.

This scenario assumes that no enigma machines would get captured or let alone the have the code broken. The importance of the "intelligence war" can't be omitted.

The psychological effects of the person's that stands next to you having their eyes melt from the glow of the nearby nuclear blast, seams much underplayed here....

Binkov, CovertCabal had a good idea for a video: US Military 1980 vs Us Military 2020 in conventional war, no nukes, no allies.

The way you immediately dismissed the German and Soviet nuclear bomb efforts is not realistic. Shure, they were behind, but without the burden of German-Soviet War Germany would be able to invest much more money in the nuclear effort. Furthermore, they would have access to all of Soviet Unions resources to help them out.

So eventually the video ended up being Soviets breaking off but that wasnt the goal it was Soviet axis alliance.

I respectfully disagree on this one Binkov, there's no way churchill would allow US to nuke the home isles; and how are these waves of US nuclear bombers getting into germany when you yourself said the germans have (defensive) air superiority? At most a handful would get through if that; also the German nuclear program was hampered throughout the war by allied sabatoge and the draining of resources on the eastern front; the soviet/german alliance could combine their scientific efforts and use facilities long out of the reach of the allies to test for bombs. Why would japan go to war in Southeast asia if they could just ask oil from the russians like germany did? You could probably argue their own pride, hatred of communists/russians, or russia already selling it to germany as an excuse; i just wish it would've been addressed. Not to mention the pacific theatre stays very stagnant despite the allies committing hardcore to europe for more time in our timeline with more resources too. Also after seeing the utter devestation of a nuclear bomb after its first couple of uses; it's highly doubtful they would've so liberally just dropped them on the french coast (god knows the free french would riot). The invasion of britain could go either way depending on naval support/the air battle as in the real life battle of britain the axis nearly completely broke the RAF; it's possible they could've completely destroyed their capability to fight effectively by this point. With the italians not royally screwing up in africa anymore they could also dedicate their resources/forces to help break the west. Either way once it becomes very obvious a land invasion of france is impossible; the most realistic option is to sue for peace

All seems pretty good except that the US should be able to do whatever it wants in the Pacific by 44. Naval industry isn’t like tanks or aircraft it would take years to build up. Also would have liked to see more about the Soviets invading China and India in this.

You might also want to ask how quickly would the Soviets steal and reverse engineer the designs for the atomic bombs?

So basically the fallout franchise in 1940s Europe?

There is no chance Britain would hold on this long

Axis and Allie’s before war: the council will decide our fate Soviet union: ahem. Since the council is not here, I am now the council.

WW2: About 100 million people die of nukes Swirtzerland,Sweden,Turkey,Spain Portugal:How's it going?

What a nonsense. You can't ended the video about how Soviet Union and Germany make an alliance and decided to declare war on UK/US, by ending this alliance. It's goddamn key thing to the scenario. It can't be dissolved by the nature of the wargame.

you didn't include v1 v2 and other weapons in Germany

0:58 Ahhh Thanks For remembering my navy

10:46 Germany: *(Thinking)* I Have To Resort to Extreme Measures... *(To Soviet)* If We Win We Split The World Exactly Like Poland You get The Entire Eastern hemisphere And We Get The Entire Western Hemisphere Soviet: Ok Germany: *Speach Level 100*

After that many nuclear weapons you’re starting to see major climate shift, not to mention that the British would not allow repeated use on their own soil.

Binkov ending the scenario with political maneuver isn't the usual thing for the channel. From now on i will be expecting modeling politics on every video as this is the first one featuring diplomatic action

Excellent series - I watched all 3. Thank you for what you do.

The First 2 Videos were really cool, but with the last one you completely screwed it by unnaturally changing the narrative. The way you built up the axis superiority in Western Europe, there is no way Britain could have survived being surrounded and cut off from any help. Not to mention that the eastern forces suddenly become uninterested in pursuing any war efforts and basically give up, because of the US dropping A Bombs on their own allies... That escalated quickly!

The alliance between the Soviets and the Germans wasn't supposed to break since this is a theoretical simulation of what would happen if they were allies. Killing the alliance off removes the purpose of the whole simulation.

There is one area I think was not covered in this video, that of South America. As I recall, Germany was making headway with several South American countries, Argentina among them. In a prolonged war like in this scenario, it possible that seeing the early gains from the Axis, the South American allies might be emboldened and move to consolidate power there. This would have got the attention of the U.S. and likely split the U.S. supplies forces yet again. We might not have been able to bolster the UK as you project in parts 2 and 3. Interesting scenario though. Thanks for producing these videos!

Was about to walk in the store until I saw this. You said part 3 on Friday and you delivered as always.

The nuclear German thing didn't happen because of Russian spys so it should be done before usa in this timeline

The thumbnail shows me that Roosevelt lives longer in this timeline. Very good!

Do the cold-war in this alternate scenario, next. It would be awesome!

I waited a long time Finally😊

0:43sec Britains never would apologize with the Irish if they invaded.

"We shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

Keep up the great stuff

I got here exactly on time was waiting for this

And suddenly everyome is an historian, geoagrapfer, and a general

Alternative history = if Albert Einstein never left Germany 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I have waited a long time for this my little green friend

What if there were no sides in ww2 ? What if it was a free for all instead of team deathmatch

German-Soviet Axis: (Winning) Allies: "You fool! All these troops you've deployed got me to a 25 person kill streak! Tactical nuke incoming!"

Every video early was great but this is just non sense...this third part just doesnt look realistic... "And then the US goes brrr bombing everything and germany was useless mehe emehehe" This video is a big dislike for me tho

Is there a sequel series about that far deadlier, not so Cold War? Because this one was absolutely awesome.

Per discussion of production of atom bombs, the US developed three methods of enrichment at different industrial size plants. The problem Germany saw with enrichment was the problem the US ran into with the little boy bomb that used enriched uranium. It was very difficult to produce in significant amounts. But the fat boy bomb was made using plutonium made from uranium and which was much easier to produce. The US calculated that by the end of 1945 they would have 12 more bombs if needed and that its production would continue to increase to as many as 100 in 1946. However they were not needed as the war ended and since no other country yet had the bomb the US did not focus on building a large inventory of atomic fission bombs as they were already aware of and working on developing the H bomb or larger fusion bomb.

Predictions have been heavily guided by subjective illusions. In such a case, (i think) the British islands would have been invaded by the end of 1942. ( FW 190 A)That could even happen by Germany alone if Germans had not attacked Soviets and continued to be trading partners. If you rule a country with your personal obsessions, the result is disaster.. And if you would remove the bombing of the Germany, due to fact that all the air power engaged in Asia would be concentrated in Europe, Germany probably would be in position to nuke America with BALİSTİC MISILES before the end of 1945. On this base, now you can compose a scenario: what would really happen if Germany and the Soviets were allies in the war..

A bit that's ignored here is that the British had every intention of using chemical weapons on the beaches in our timeline had Sea Lion gone through. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same in this hellworld.

this was a nice story that kept me wondering what will happen next!

"what if the soviets had joined the germans" *proceeds to make them turn against each other*

the video forget a very crucial point: germany's advances in rocket engines (wich, by itself isn't a lot, as V2 wheren't that effective, but combined with the "magik german-soviet bound" and with soviet enginers such as korolev, we could imagine that, in such a scenario (if the magik bound hold on) korolev and von braun could potentially work together (and then, make actually good short range balistic missiles before the US) also, another possibility that wasn't explored was the japanese's advances in biochemical stuff (so, with a magic german-soviet-japanese axis, we could imagine what such technologies could do, especially if combined with a short range missile) you also forget that, in such a scenario, if the magik bound stays, it mean that china might not get a lot of support (therefore, making far easyer for japan to take a tighter grasp on continental asia, therefore, more ressources aivable to feed the japanese warmachine, and far less steel shortages)

Considering the third nuke was bound to be a dud, and immense risk of bombers being shot down carrying nukes, I cant imagine a sustained nuke campaign would be green lit by the bomber command unless the risk could be mitigated somehow. Followed with the fact that striking targets with nukes would be abysmal PR for the allies it could only be worsened by striking ports which are largely close to civilian centers. This would make atrocities like Hiroshima look like child's play when done repeatedly. Consequently, using terror weapons would at this point lead the Axis to go ahead with firebombing civilian targets and infrastructure in the U.K., assuming this wasn't already being done. The sheer potential of destruction brought forward by using nukes in a contested territory makes me think that they would be a last resort weapon the U.S. would reserve for its own defense.

I like your videos

America:*threatens USSR* Yeah it's Cold War II baby USSR:*declares war* America:Nevermind, it's WW3

American nuclear attacks could cause populations to revolt against the allies, especially if the axis forces used human shields and in England and France. The populations would suffer the effects of the radiation. The combined Russian-German effort could result in the construction of nuclear weapons sooner than in our reality, which would lead to retaliation, with the English in the middle. England's surrender would probably arrive sooner than a Russo-Germanic split

I can't understand how you just sort of skipped to a successful Axis landing on Britain. The RN and USN would still dominate the seas. Both Britain and America outpaced Germany and the Soviet union in real time and in this scenario in shipbuilding. Raw materials are only part of it, they both had little experience and logistics in comparison. Even a last ditch scenario where the RN with help from the US effectively lined up their capital ships to cover the east of the British isles with support from the air, an axis landing mainly in barges with a lack of escorts would be a catastrophe

i stil wonder why or how the war would even last this long. once the allies realize it would be literally impossible to liberate africa, let alone europe, they would sue for peace.

Realistically speaking the thing that made the b29’s and B36’s so effective wasn’t that they were fast, it was because they went so high, the enemy planes literally could not generate enough power to get to the height to attack them, knowing this, it’s safe to say that as soon as B29’s and 36’s are in play, there’s no such thing as a “safe” heartland in germany, and that would only get better as the war dragged on with jet technology coming into play, the US never had to worry too much about the safety of the factories they produced in because of the massive distances they were away from enemy attack, so they could develop as much as they needed to in relative safety

USSR would be able to develop a nuke much quicker because their industry would be untouched, possibly turning the tide of the war.

I think that if the Germans didn’t invade the USSR and had them as an ally, then their would had produce the bomb much faster than this timeline suggests .( probably by the end of 1945).

Binkov needs to lay off the vodka. This whole series was clearly made while you were smashed.

Without assured air superiority, the Allies would probably have put effort into a rocket programme.

11:56 I kinda wanna see the next version of this

Like I said in the first vid "Then its an even fight"

Binkov I'm disappointed you didn't mention Canada being another big British ally

Excellant analysis by what would have happen by different permutation and combination..

Ireland joining the Allies is impossible especially without a fight and Britain and the US would mark a invasion and occupation of Ireland as not worth it even in this alternative history universe. The only thing that I think would make Ireland say Yes is if the UK gave northern Ireland back but ... I real life that didn't even work so IDK. Final word is Ireland being in the Allies is practically impossible.

It seems to me likely that in this alternative timeline the United States would have, out of sheer necessity, desegregated combat troops in the military in order to have more GIs

I think you may have been overestimating the AXIS air power and also Naval power. Even if they somehow matched the numbers of the combined allied fleets they didn't have a means to reliably deal with attack submarines while the allies did. Allied airpower would likely still be dominant. At least in this time frame. Also by this point British intelligence cracked the codes and would know where and when any amphibious attack would take place. One if the reasons D-Day worked because of the surprise, if the AXIS knew the exact landing points it would have been disastrous for the allies.

Here's an idea for an episode, give both sides of WW2 their counterpart's modern technology (barring nukes). How would this change the pace of the war. For another example limit it to the air campaign over Germany, after seeing your video on the radar race I was interested in a hypothetical air war with modern day aircraft. How would strategic bombing change with more precise aircraft, would missiles be involved. Etc

I love the concept, but I can’t even fathom England allowing such weapons used on its soil, nor the Americans even being able to get the nukes to England. I also notice you do not take moral either, as I do not think English people would have the will after Russia also invades.

10:24 I know this is alternative history but that’s a bit of a stretch if they managed to “set aside” their differences in the first place

An interesting video

I was thinking this timeline was worse than our own until i got to the part were britain is nuked, now i like this timeline.

Bruh the Soviet’s DID join Germany as allies but the soviets were betrayed

Great video but why isn't Spain in the Axis? The only reason Spain didn't join in real life is because of Wilhelm Canaris secretly convincing Franco there was nothing to gain from joining so that the Axis would have less support

I would like to see a video about what if a World Civil War Broke out with almost every country fighting its self

Nice

I love this series.

What's the point of them turning against each other in part 3??? LOL

Even with the extra advantage in this scenario, operation Sealion would be an utter and complete waste of industry and resources. Any naval invasion is near impossible to carry out successfully. Just look at D-Day. Yes it was successful, but with a massive cost. So invading an island nation would be a strategical failure and would be completely impractical. It would most likely be a stalemate until the nuclear program pulled through and struck back at the axis. Otherwise, I love this scenario, as a whole it's quite accurate and has a lot of attention to detail. Keep it up!

I see Binkov upload, I click.

Please continue this scenario into the Cold War. A three-way Cold War > Our timeline.

11:46 USSR in alternate timeline: Stretching far to Scandinavia, Balkans, Sinai, Persia, half of Poland. Stalin: Wonderful Also USSR in alternate timeline: Gets only a chunk of Manchuria and other half of Sakhalin, and no Turkey. Also Stalin: Unrealistic, alternate Stalin not doing enough purging.

LOVE THIS CHANNEL ALWAYS WELL DONE

You know, the 'QUAD' vs China would be really interesting. Try to make a video on that.

Also I was expecting better explanation of the naval war as this was pretty debated subject