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What if VTEC Was Always On?

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When VTEC kicks in and your head slightly hits the headrest.
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@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
A few people have asked if it's possible to make the low-cam and high-cam VVT tunes "closer" together to get rid of that little dip in airfow, and the answer is yes! We could just make the tunes closer together in the VVL changeover area so the cams don't have to "catch up". We could also make a single VVT tune that takes the best of both graphs as well, which is totally fine! Many ways to tune a car! However, if I'm being honest, I just turned VVT off as I wasn't really seeing all that many gains, especially now that this car is supercharged. Glad you all are enjoying the video, and hopefully learning from it!
@DOAHunt3r
@DOAHunt3r 9 ай бұрын
Something else to think about is that VVT should also change with respect to load. At part throttle you want EGR to reduce emissions and more knock margin.
@sushpants
@sushpants Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video to watch. I never thought of using the MAF as makeshift dyno! My jaw dropped at the amount of time you must have put into putting this video together. The quality really shows.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
That poor engine has seen pull after pull since I swapped it in. It seems to be holding up well all things considered
@operator8014
@operator8014 10 ай бұрын
Mass air flow combined with exhaust gas temperature and should tell you exactly how much power the engine is producing. Based on the difference between fuel usage vs heat production.
@valian8985
@valian8985 10 ай бұрын
Prety smart
@aBlandAviator
@aBlandAviator Жыл бұрын
Great content, not overly simplified and still easily digestible 👍
@garrettjessen1942
@garrettjessen1942 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, great video
@TheRyansLion
@TheRyansLion 10 ай бұрын
As a Honda guy, it drives me up the wall when people say “Every car nowadays has VVT, VTEC is nothing different”. Great video by the way!
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 10 ай бұрын
I mean… sure… but it’s not like Honda VTEC makes Honda engines anything special from a performance perspective. In fact I have a Civic but the only thing is has is VVT plus a nice turbo. Tiny 1.5L engine but full torque at 1800 RPM. I cruise in 6th gear at any speed above 40 MPH. Go up hills in 6th. Pass in 6th. Pass going up hills in 6th. I’d much rather have that than having to double downshift to kick in VTEC, yo… any time I want to do something.
@colinpouliot42
@colinpouliot42 9 ай бұрын
this guy doesnt like exhaust noises and downshifts to feel like a racer
@TheRyansLion
@TheRyansLion 9 ай бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 it’s far more usable but loses a lot of character
@2strokeFORever
@2strokeFORever 9 ай бұрын
​@@Bartonovich52L15s suck. Anything more than bolt ons and all that low end torque is why the rods break
@sargentthiccboi9333
@sargentthiccboi9333 10 ай бұрын
This is literally the best guide for tuning I’ve ever seen. It actually feels like I can go and tune my car
@mikeshock7265
@mikeshock7265 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, tuning content on youtube in a digestible format to a newbie is a rarity, and thats exactly what you provide. Thank you very much.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it valuable. More to come!
@lamboferruccio
@lamboferruccio 11 ай бұрын
Dude that is the best explanation I’ve heard/seen of VTEC/VVT ever and I’ve been through training of this stuff in the past, you definitely have a gift my friend 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼
@ilovehappyemos
@ilovehappyemos Жыл бұрын
If you have the piston to valve clearance, you could try running the intake cams one tooth off on the belt. Not sure what kind of change in cam timing that would net, but with the small gains down low, and the bigger gains up high from the lower LSA, you may find some more free power up there. This is pure theory and something I've never considered, but looking at your graphs, it may benefit your particular setup. Great content! hope this channel blows up, love the work.
@h3xd3m0n9
@h3xd3m0n9 9 ай бұрын
Advancing intake valves helps low end retarding them top end. A tooth would be close to 8 degrees of crankshaft rotation
@AstekOst
@AstekOst 10 ай бұрын
I don't think you understand how well this video was made, this is your masterpiece right here, easy to follow for those without much knowledge and those who ''know it all'', it's pretty much a tutorial for getting the max amount of power out of a stock-ish N/A engine even though it wasn't meant to be that :D Earned yourself a sub, awesome work buddy, keep it up
@levibeatson3247
@levibeatson3247 Жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve had to endure some pretty complicated explanations around VVL and this one video knocked it out of the park! I’ve got a Primera that comes with Nissans version of VTEC (NEO-VVL) and the things I’ve learned (minus the timing, which isn’t applicable since Neo VVL doesn’t incorporate timing on the SR20VE) are things I’m gonna have to figure out when I go to get my car tuned later on this year, this video’s helped me gain a bit of confidence around making sure I get the most out of my engine. Definitely earned a subscription from me! Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@hartfordlabs7754
@hartfordlabs7754 6 ай бұрын
“Probably means that your vtec tune is sh*t…” lmao, I felt that
@kfpperth575
@kfpperth575 Жыл бұрын
first time seeing your channel pop up on my feed. I must say your content is amazing. you make things so easy to understand and answer our questions before we even ask them. you've definitely earned a sub from me 👍
@peterparadis6788
@peterparadis6788 5 ай бұрын
Please change nothing about your channel. This is my new obsession. Easily my favorite car channel. This channel is going to take off. Don't change a thing.
@TheWoebegoneJackal
@TheWoebegoneJackal 10 ай бұрын
You've made tuning my ecu seem a lot less intimidating, this was amazing!
@Imnotthefed
@Imnotthefed 6 ай бұрын
Another banger video from blackthumb. Just when I think it can’t get better you do it again.
@markvicferrer
@markvicferrer 9 ай бұрын
Such a clear explanation of how things work & methodology that takes into account every variable. Amazing work.
@TheDivergentDrummer
@TheDivergentDrummer Жыл бұрын
Dude! this is an eff'n awesome video. Straight, to the point, clearly illustrated. Thanks.
@ncaquatic
@ncaquatic 10 ай бұрын
That was the most I’ve ever learned in 1 KZfaq video… maybe more than I’ve learned in 10 years of wondering what both these things do! Awesome work, certainly subscribing. Also… do a raptor supercharger kit on the EZ30R!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
Check the latest video on this car, I did something arguably better 😉
@danielsigursson6215
@danielsigursson6215 10 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation on how VVL and VVT work and how to tune for optimum power. Also it was quite amazing how much info you could pull from the MAF.
@akupehsluarketatAR
@akupehsluarketatAR 9 ай бұрын
Now i really get to see wat changes vvt n vtec does to the engine and what tuners were lookin for on their laptop. 22mins of explanation dats clear as day. Sub!
@xbox230
@xbox230 11 ай бұрын
Love the way you teach everything, the driving process and the graphing data makes it better to understand
@TheGorillaBiker
@TheGorillaBiker 3 ай бұрын
You are fast becoming one of my favourite channels on here, I'll have to try make my fb25 manual slightly less horrible down low, it feels like it's tuned from factory for a CVT, I definitely think it can be smoothed out at minimum.
@nikkosoriano
@nikkosoriano 10 ай бұрын
Sir, you just earned another subscriber. I would say that you deserve even more. Great explanation! Simple and easy to understand. 👏🏻
@DrinkinDaJuice
@DrinkinDaJuice 10 ай бұрын
It would be even wheezier than usual. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@tumerhorloev6950
@tumerhorloev6950 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work. You definitely need more views, all the videos on this channel are great for that matter
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 10 ай бұрын
Glad i discovered this channel. Great content. You present it in a way you can just listen if needed. Great work
@josephpetruccio7306
@josephpetruccio7306 10 ай бұрын
I love the graphs. Love the “whaaa” noise you make during the pulls. It gives Richard Holdener vibes
@blknightsixtyfo
@blknightsixtyfo 10 ай бұрын
The first few seconds of engine idle had me crying almost no a mindgasm I had a mindgasm oh my God Honda I love you
@JFish5
@JFish5 11 ай бұрын
You my man are making the biggest fucking difference in me trying to learn tuning
@mastercricket7626
@mastercricket7626 9 ай бұрын
Best breakdown of the two i have seen brotha ... much respect n you just got a new sub 🤘🏾
@vaultofnoah3903
@vaultofnoah3903 10 ай бұрын
This might be the best video relating to airflow and tuning I’ve ever seen. Like I feel like I could go out and do some of this tuning myself… and have fun. Great video
@BobSaget-gf9qx
@BobSaget-gf9qx Жыл бұрын
Amazing video !!! Fav channel period.
@paulboissiere1278
@paulboissiere1278 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE your content.
@StripeTheFerret
@StripeTheFerret 8 ай бұрын
How do you have such a small amount of subscribers? I just came across your channel but you definitely deserve more. I’m sure you will be at 1 million subs in a year or so. 🔥😎💪🏼, you are very informal. Keep up the good work Homie.
@STAY-GOLD-VINYL
@STAY-GOLD-VINYL 10 ай бұрын
Keep at it BlackThumb! Your a great deal of importance to the KZfaq car community even with a smaller following. Your style and wealth of knowledge is what TUNES us in. Your going to get big on the Tube soon enough! Collaborate if you can to get your bitchin channel out to the masses!!
@ayanami808
@ayanami808 10 ай бұрын
Underrated channel right here.
@charlesz25
@charlesz25 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video man, this is wildly insughtful. Thank you! Will binge watch your videos now
@SwannyRiv
@SwannyRiv 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, you WILL blow up soon.
@cartler
@cartler 10 ай бұрын
This is the exact video I was looking for. Nice one!
@Zxcbxbxjdjsxj
@Zxcbxbxjdjsxj 9 ай бұрын
Thank God KZfaq put you in my suggestions list
@pruvengsx1
@pruvengsx1 9 ай бұрын
Great video bro, thanks for making it very detailed with knowledge
@kyleinwisc
@kyleinwisc 10 ай бұрын
These are great car videos. Great explanations dawg
@tylerwatts1004
@tylerwatts1004 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation on the AVCS (VTEC) behaviour! One thought, why not bring forward the cam advance slightly so the delay happens before the VTEC kicks in?
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 ай бұрын
That's one potential solution. In the current tune, though, I just disable AVCS entirely as it didn't really have any substantial gains, as we saw.
@joishw
@joishw Жыл бұрын
The algorithm sent me here, I finally understand VTEC thank you!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@Adrian-re9fh
@Adrian-re9fh 3 ай бұрын
Great video bro, I subscribed as fast as vtec kicked in yo!
@Numer1Polak
@Numer1Polak 10 ай бұрын
Less overlap equals less unburnt air/fuel going to the exhaust, so yes its an emissions thing but it also takes away from scavenging. Some engines like a lot of ford motors (I went thru a ford school) use the exhaust cam as an egr system by forcing some exhaust to stay in the chamber with cam timing. You can turn the vvt into a performance setup by skipping a tooth on the intake cams so it has a lot more overlap for top end and using the tune to bring it back to factory 0 down low
@craigkendell5706
@craigkendell5706 10 ай бұрын
This was a thing that came out in the late 90s it's called a killer cam, it deletes the smaller lobe from the cam only activating "vtec"
@tundadwookee7093
@tundadwookee7093 10 ай бұрын
“Dragging a shovel down the driveway” great analogy! Lmao
@LaunchBuilt
@LaunchBuilt 10 ай бұрын
Definitely can tell the effort put in this video. Thank you 🥹
@gangamiin
@gangamiin 9 ай бұрын
Love this video! I've learned something and I'm clueless as well! Subscribed
@888TMONEY888
@888TMONEY888 10 ай бұрын
bro you funny af i enjoyed this vid even though anybody else woulda made it boring lol
@Rawllsteez
@Rawllsteez 10 ай бұрын
My tuner lowered VTEC engagement and yes the cross over was smoother and less pronounced this video brings me some joy knowing I'm probably picking up some hp even tho I'm losing the big cross over.
@ZheikoNileth
@ZheikoNileth 10 ай бұрын
This video has 100% earned you my like and sub! This is absolutely amazing and brings a bit closer the magic the tuners do on the dyno. Would be amazing to see a series called 'Tuning your car for dummies 1-2-3' or something. I would 100% watch all of it and tune my own Mitsu Colt based on knowledge from you!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm a compitent enough tuner to do so at this point, but maybe one day!
@ZheikoNileth
@ZheikoNileth 10 ай бұрын
@@BlackthumbTV I will be waiting, and watching all your vids in the meantime :)
@micahf0
@micahf0 Жыл бұрын
You’re a great teacher! Thanks for making videos and sharing your knowledge 👍
@micahf0
@micahf0 Жыл бұрын
I myself have a Acura TSX, I plan to do a tune after my new exhaust system gets installed
@speed488
@speed488 10 ай бұрын
First video I've seen on this channel. Fantastic content and I love the hands on approach with the actual data. Subscribed!
@kormysh8
@kormysh8 9 ай бұрын
Okkkkkay. Dude. Yes. Very imformative! Awsome work. Instant subscribe bruv 👌👌
@zrwn
@zrwn 9 ай бұрын
That was so informative and quite digestible for an idiot like me. Thk you for this! Subscribed!
@aidanstubblebine2197
@aidanstubblebine2197 10 ай бұрын
dear god man this was incredible to witness.. you explain things so clearly
@gregmaggert8561
@gregmaggert8561 Жыл бұрын
Anything Honda or VTEC related is going to blow up (not the engine, your video) Good choice and content as always. Love it
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
No no, you had it right. I blow up engines too. A real jack or all trades
@gregmaggert8561
@gregmaggert8561 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackthumbTV and that's what we's appreciates about you
@abrahamsanchez2197
@abrahamsanchez2197 10 ай бұрын
Dude. I will TRAVEL to you just to take a beginners course on tuning. The way you explain is SO UNDERSTANDABLE.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm a compitent enough tuner at this point for something like that, but maybe one day I can do some videos on that.
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 10 ай бұрын
Subbed and liked my man. Great informative no bs video. Thanks you
@knuffelbeer93
@knuffelbeer93 9 ай бұрын
Awesome information, and brought in an understandable way. Epic video❤
@moneyshifters
@moneyshifters Жыл бұрын
From one small yt to another. Good shit, keep it up
@alexmaccity
@alexmaccity 10 ай бұрын
If VTEC was always on there would be no wait for the VTEC to kick in
@-Just_Justin-
@-Just_Justin- 9 ай бұрын
As a fellow avid enthusiast, I truly appreciate the amount of information provided in this video.
@mattmorrison6958
@mattmorrison6958 10 ай бұрын
Really great video! Love all the logged and dissected info that all worked out as planned too! Advancing the intake cam down low tends to show a nice benefit with turbo setups if they are already at a favorable emap/map ratio and the extra overlap lets the engine sort of "get out of the way" for generating more airflow and driving the turbo into boost sooner. Helpful particularly with an auto car when stalling up. Back to "normal" up top of course if possible to avoid the hit in power there. You're not only changing the LSA and overlap but the trapped volume in the cylinder (sometimes advance helping a longer duration cam not lose as much static compression) and then retarding will allow more time at high rpm for a more complete cylinder fill as the air lags behind a bit but has more inertia near the end of the stroke.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
Very insightful info, thank you for sharing with us!
@mattmorrison6958
@mattmorrison6958 10 ай бұрын
@@BlackthumbTV also liked the 4g63 in there ;)
@JuanSlowDSM
@JuanSlowDSM 10 ай бұрын
@@mattmorrison6958that would be mine 🤠
@robotman3474
@robotman3474 10 ай бұрын
Subscribed cuz of this video, first one I’ve seen from you too! Make more videos like this G
@crispenthunder9773
@crispenthunder9773 10 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis and explanatuion! Ive learned something, thank you!
@albertomanzo5334
@albertomanzo5334 10 ай бұрын
Blackthumb got my thumb up. Channel is so underrated.
@avsti
@avsti 10 ай бұрын
This was so cool to watch!!! Inspirational lol. *opens EcuFlash for my SJ Forester*
@k3vinl85
@k3vinl85 10 ай бұрын
This was just recommended to me this morning for the sake of the algorithm I figured I would let you know lol. Very interesting video my man, I subbed and shared with all my buddies. Cheers!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
You're a legend, thank you!
@noahwyatt9260
@noahwyatt9260 10 ай бұрын
Brother I just found you and I watched the whole video and immediately subbed. Awesome, clear and very informative video
@randomshitbekker
@randomshitbekker 9 ай бұрын
Love your work. Very well done
@jacobsigmund7978
@jacobsigmund7978 10 ай бұрын
amazing content dude👏🏼👏🏼
@le.farquad608
@le.farquad608 10 ай бұрын
This was a fantastic video, and made tuning seem a little more simpler. I thanks you sir. Also VTEC on a Boxer engine is bad ass. As a Honda enjoyer, it's really cool. Not mad at all.
@bitmor2628
@bitmor2628 10 ай бұрын
That was awesome. So helpful.
@benchmark4768
@benchmark4768 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks for the content!
@freddieastaire6312
@freddieastaire6312 Жыл бұрын
Quality Content 👍👍👍 You just gained another subscriber!
@avengetupac4951
@avengetupac4951 10 ай бұрын
amazing content, really appreciate you helping me learn
@tannpants9532
@tannpants9532 Жыл бұрын
I like to listen to you speak. Good vid as usual.
@Muszkato
@Muszkato 9 ай бұрын
That's awesome content. Explain actually everything. Great job 💪
@donovanlucibello379
@donovanlucibello379 6 ай бұрын
This is amazing content!
@TEAMHYBRID007
@TEAMHYBRID007 10 ай бұрын
I watched several of your videos you are incredibly intelligent and straight to the point and it is what I like I'm a intj I think you are the same. I am the same way or I used to be sometimes you might have to practice with called extroverted feeling and basically it means trying to be nice when you know you don't have to be. Unfortunately it will change your perspective and you can't go back to the way you are right now so do it or don't I like the way I am now but I can always turn on the other side and scare everybody in the room if I want to
@willtuttle6593
@willtuttle6593 10 ай бұрын
Subbed. Reminds me of my old 01 Legacy GT wagon, man, the primitive shit we used to have to do then versus now. I remember when the rs25 guys and I-speed launched an ecu swap in like 2006 and the pinouts didn't match, one was a Unisia Jecs and the other was a Denso ECU I think... (I did have two moonroofs and a factory rear lsd which the same era impreza rs didn't, lol)
@t-mo.
@t-mo. Жыл бұрын
well done man. blew my mind when you said you made your own program just for the graphs of this video lol
@PRZJ91
@PRZJ91 10 ай бұрын
Really love all of this, while I knew everything that you said(spot on btw) it’s really dope to see it in action, just like using a Dyno to see power increase from changes being made. I love tuning for this exact reason and watching gave me the same feeling I get when I tune a car on the Dyno haha I loved it!!!!
@man.and.machines
@man.and.machines 10 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a video like this regarding the MAF, but with a turbo and boost added to the tuning aspect, and how boost affects AVLS/AVCS.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 10 ай бұрын
If I didn't supercharge the build I'd be all for it. Boost would change the airflow quite a lot, so at that point a dyno may be preferable
@AdinSLaboy
@AdinSLaboy 9 ай бұрын
Great video I am a new subscriber and your videos are fire the way u explained it every details set by step
@JHERI493
@JHERI493 10 ай бұрын
This man needs a dyno, I’d love to have my crosstrek tuned by you!! Edit: Subscribed
@sethfirethornw101
@sethfirethornw101 Жыл бұрын
High quality content here. Subbed
@EvanModsMinis
@EvanModsMinis 10 ай бұрын
yo dude just found the channel today and I love it thank you for the information and definitely will be using the tuning methods on my minis. there just isn't a lot of support for the r50s (by this I mean they just say to buy a r53) and the explaining u do really helps me with ways I could make my own parts or power.
@bonzo9303204406
@bonzo9303204406 10 ай бұрын
I dont know how i came by your blower maker video ... But im in shock how easy to process information you are presenting . I love your kind of satiric presentation ❤
@applewillance3276
@applewillance3276 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact, 3 manufacturer share the same sort of VVL system, Subaru, Porsche and Proton.
@ISR403
@ISR403 10 ай бұрын
Gosh I love learning
@emmanuelgarza6662
@emmanuelgarza6662 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! You do a great job explaining each change and the results. You gained a subscriber 👍
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome!
@Biker790
@Biker790 10 ай бұрын
This video is brilliant.
@HuntersHunt
@HuntersHunt 9 ай бұрын
Already you are twisting my arm here but I’m gonna go ahead and subscribe
@derekgray1633
@derekgray1633 10 ай бұрын
Back in my day 16 years ago we would hook a switch to the vtec solenoid and it would make the car run like ass but it sounded lopey. It’s not meant to run well at low speed lol. I have a cammed LS now and even then you loose low speed performance but gain it higher through the rpm’s for sure. Airflow is a science and if you wanna get funky check out the d15b with 3 stage vtec. I bought one of those motors from Steve at hmotor to experiment with it in an ef hatch. The 3 stage vtec was an attempt to master the airflow at all rpm’s.
@herniagaming
@herniagaming 10 ай бұрын
vtec is vvt_L is variable valve timing which controls the duration of the intake and exhaust valves in response to throttle to deliver more accurate power and lower fuel use in low throttle input. the L aspects stands for Lift and further increases the effectiveness of vvt by being able to alter the valve lift to physically allow for even more air to enter in and out of the combustion chambers with an added increase in fuel which is regulated by the ecu in response to the increased air flow. This creates even more power than just vvt at a high throttle input and better fuel economy at low throttle input. Ingenious system that can make small displacement car produce adequate and accurate power and further increase in lower fuel use. Really important system in automotive engineering and is responsible for the cars we know today.
@phdavid4
@phdavid4 9 ай бұрын
Great job and second video I just watched. First was the running the car just on e. Just became a subscriber, keep up doing the great work 🫡
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