I was looking for this video, thanks!

What got it taken down?

Just an overlong clip of 00 at the end that triggered a match because Bandai decided to get more aggressive. It happens!

@@ZorakGoesOn Things have been getting crazy this past couple of months for KZfaqrs or am I wrong ?

Seed is the Refined Blueprint of Making Media to sell Merchandise. Constant face off of the most powerful Gundams to win by mostly having the best Gundam who will wipe everyone and some of those defeated magically get new Gundams in the next 1 or 2 episodes and they slap down last week's King of the hill. But most gundams are ugly and ridiculous in design...so they try to remake the most popular ones to the point they're overplayed....Yes looking at you ASH-TRAY...but hey...2 decades later we get the Eclipse...literally the best kit to come from that timeline.

TBH Buster Gundam is probably my favorite design. He is the only one that looks like actual war machine and not an over the top mess like the Destiny Gundam or the Freedom and Strike Freedom. And judging from my struggle to secure a MG kit of him, I think others have the same idea too.

cosmic era is earth i no know is earth

Strike freedom is one of the best looking gundams ever.@@desireless4092

00 definitely has better or at least just as good designs

pointy

Nobody can.

Hell yes

The gunpla are great, probably owing to its huge popularity to getting a lot of its MGs remastered. In fact, I've told my own gunpla group, regarding the Freedom 2.0, never before has a better kit been given to a worse plot device.

True, it's THE series that introduce people really into Gundam. For the worse, the animation is repeative, nothing innovative but fancier and bigger guns, while having an exact copypaste storyline, but damn I'm glad it open the door for me to get into gundam.

Hubris? Nah dude, PATRIOT Surface to Air missile system disagrees, military using convoluted backronyms are. very realistic

See, I was imagining more a Macross 7 OVA angle where space whales show up and everyone is like "dang we love these space whales, how can we hate each other when these space whales are so great" Also Nekki Basara is there playing his guitar for the whales

@@ZorakGoesOn space whales making everyone hippies would hardly be the worst ending to a show

well, that's what Gundam 00 is for. That's basically what Destiny should've been and the next series after that but Morosawa got sick by the later half of SEED and Fukuda and her were just screwing around and wasting everyone's time using up the budget for private concerts that they call OST research. TBH, I feel like it was all Morosawa that screwed around and her husband just ended up along for the ride. Much like how she accused Cagali's VA for seducing her husband just so people backed off her case of screwing around (because she couldn't use her illness as an excuse anymore).

Replace the Evangelion in Darling in the FranXX with Gundam and that's probably what'd you'd get.

This should be a south park sequel. The last whale was still on the moon and obviously dead.

thanks skywalker

Yeah lacus is number one gundam girl in entire gundam franchise.

@@argacc20417 man of culture as well

Lacus isn't even the best gundam girl in her own series. Psychotic racist redhead waifu for laifu. Fite me, m9.

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after watching all ur gundam videos u seem like an 'older' fan... nothing wrong with that ..just old

I wouldn't worry too much about the eugenics angle - it has very little to say in either direction, honestly. "Coordinators hate normals for being their lessers" and "Normal people hate coordinators for not being 'pure' humans" are views both portrayed with a negative light. Kira being a messianic figure due to all his enhancements is definitely a thing, but they don't really call attention too much attention to that fact. You should give it a shot. A whole bunch of folks love it, even if I don't much care for it personally.

It's also worth noting that the show doesn't seem to really understand what co-ordinators actually are. The majority of them are never introduced doing anything "better" than "regular" people. Their non-named pilots are just as big of schmucks as the human ones, and other than the cast members, they never really seem to use this alleged superiority in any efficient or neat ways. It really would have been handled better if only select characters were actually co-ordinators, as they are a very messy grouping of people.

@@bearminator7441 At the beginning of SEED, only coordinators are able to effectively pilot mobile suits at all, as naturals don't have the reflexes or information processing power required (this comes up a few times with Sai and the Astray girls). Kira reprograms the Strike OS (Athrun does it later to the Aegis) and survives the heat of the reentry battle because of his coordinator traits. Most of the rest of the coordinator's abilities come up in flashbacks to before the war, since the series doesn't have a lot of time to dwell on non-combat applications. Fundamentally though, the series also highlights the limitations of this genetic ability. Coordinators are only better until naturals figure out how to make technology to bridge the gap (through the Natural OS) at which point is becomes obvious that Coordinators aren't really that special. The whole point is that they're not real evolution, and they're the result of arrogant people thinking they could buy themselves into being a new species.

The characters who go into eugenics apologia are universally regarded as villains, and much ado is made about how genetic engineering isn't real evolution, and humanity hasn't fundamentally changed.

And what's more is that Kira wound up reprogramming the Strike later when he got to Orb anyway, after which Mu was able to use it more or less just as well as Kira ever could, implying Kira could've done that the whole time. Or at least if he couldn't, there was never a satisfactory explanation why. So Kira basically screwed himself with that one. (And it's arguable that it wouldn't be the only time Kira would make life harder for himself for no reason... Flay isn't, nor has otherwise ever been implied to have been _that_ smart.) We don't even see him _try_ to reprogram the Strike again, nor make the offer to do so only to be denied for some reason. Kira is only put upon because Seed had to follow the formula for Amuro in spite of significantly differing circumstances. For one thing, Amuro hadn't awakened as a newtype yet. He was just the only one Bright had access to who could parse the RX-78-2's instruction manual, what with how his dad wrote it. Plus, Char was actively chasing the RX-78-2 down personally and trading fire with it far more often than Rau ever did. Yes, Athrun had the Aegis, but Athrun _never_ had the clout of being a one-man fleet killer like Char was after the Battle of Loum. There's even an early scene where Mu, Ramius and Badgiruel are discussing how Kira complicated the situation by reprogramming the Strike. Badgiruel briefly floats the idea of telling Kira to change it back, but gives up on the idea for no real reason other than there wouldn't be a show otherwise, which I always find a stupid reason for anything. No story > bad story.

@@draketheduelist The reason given was that the default OS was still in Beta and hadn't been properly tested, it wasnt even finished. They were waiting for the first round of test flights to make sure even the concept was sound. Nobody on the Archangel was even trained in how to use the test OS either. So Kira's kitbashed system was the only thing they had to keep the Strike active. Once they're on Earth, Kira has to keep modifying the OS to cope with regular gravity and the desperate terrain of the planet. Once they arrived on ORB, they basically took Kira's calibrations and fiddled with them until they created a system that a normal person could handle. In short: The reason Kira couldn't mod the OS for anyone else was because it wasn't finished and he was the only one able to modify it on the fly, or make sense of it.

@@draketheduelist ughhhh.... watch the show again. Kira took the result of Orb's work so far(which is already alot), and added more to it to make it work better. He did not programmed the OS all by himself. No way he can make a natural OS in limited time. Could Kira have done it by himself? Perhaps, but it would take alot longer than the time it took the Archangel to get from Heliopolis to Orb. That is, not even mentioning Kira had to pretty much learn on the flight as to how to caliberate a giant robot for gravity, terrain differences, heat convection etc. No way he could have create anything remotely usable for naturals without these practical experiences. And really dude? Restore the Strike back to the original configuration??? Sre you nuts? Mu explicitly said the original pilots could barely walk with the original OS, and they were trained to use mobile suits. Mu using the original OS would be a disaster. "No real reason...", well here is one reason; you do not send a machine that could barely walk into the battlefield because the result would be catastrophic.

Agreed @draketheduelist you need to go watch SEED again my man because what ​ @Eight-clouds Purple and @HeraldOfOblivion are saying is true.

Yea I was wondering how did he reach that conclusion? If you're going to make a statement like that at least give us a source.

Honestly, Thunderbolt and The origin were massive hits. At this point I still don’t understand why Sunrise doesn’t just remake OG Gundam.

Given its financial and critical response in the target market, I'd say it succeeded.

Seed didn’t fail if it did gundam woudlve ended by now no cap

Seed, Gundam Wing, G Gundam, And now breaker battlelogue, breaker series, and models along with the more modern gundams series IBO, Thunderbolt, Origin, and etc plus Hathaway etc

That is probably what drew me to Gundam SEED too. Funny thing is one right after watching Gundam SEED I started watching Claymore which is a Dark Fantasy setting.

IKR. Even a toddler dont have meltdown continously like him. I was, eh....what are you crying about now!?

Wait am i seeing the same thing

I have to agree but i don't like the "ultimate coordinator" plot i actually whould've preffered if kira was actually a clone with rau's genetics here me out it makes sense to just make him a clone rather than the "ultimate coordinator" and the whole destiny plan i mean it clearly dosen't make sense i mean seed is fine but destiny we don't talk about that shit. But if there's one thing shinn was a potential character i mean lets get new characters for once and shinn could've been a great character the only thing i hate about him is his hate for orb literally the only thing i hate about him i even went all my way to rewrite the plot for destiny and seed (there some things i didn't like about the original and some changes are going to needed for a destiny reboot) for like one shinn gets drifted back to orb after he was trying to get the minerva to escape and meets with kira there kira and shinn talk and kira decide's to join the war and kira was in fact part if the zaft military as well because lacus is the vice-chairman of zaft and she is not a pop-star i repeat she is not a pop-star she is zaft's equavilent to cagalli execpet she hasen't seen war until she is onboard the archangel and kira also cuts off one of his legs to escape during the fight between the aegis and strike then one arms with rau then his eye during his fight with rey and patrick zala's are the antagonists along with rey who has second personality called raulas who orchaestrated the whole war to continue rau's work exepect leave some survivors and make himself god than shinn fights raulas after he told kira to help the allies (aka pro-randal zaft forces as well as pro-randal EA forces and neutral nations and pro-cagalli orb forces) to destroy the seed equavilant of the colony laser and during the fight rey gets back control of his body after shinn encouraged rey to take back control of his body also i made cagalli much more better here as well by making the whole assassination on lacus never happen the archangel goes to join up with the minerva when they got word they were being attacked by orb and EA combined forces and when they did cagalli contacted orb forces to join her against the seirans this works with half of the fleet joining there side alonf with that captain who comforted shinn when his family died and i'm not have the freedom 2 here just a big no i had the liberty of making a weaker version of the freedom combined with strike scehmatics called the liberty and give athrun like the same exepect it's the justice and aegis i even have a 3 and 4 sequel ready and this how my idea for a seed reboot

@@zemo5218 that's quite a nice rewrite but the foundations are bad, not because your writing is bad, but because Destiny was thrown in the trash at the very start. So there's quite a lot of problems behind the scenes. Morosawa being the epicenter of it all. Back in SEED, she already was quite an awful person to work with. Being one of the position in power, as well as her husband being the lead, they abused their positions quite often. The production team DID tolerate it because she did get sick halfway through and she did do work, albeit late and often past her deadline,. Making everyone's job bad because they would often barely make the deadline (if they don't reuse things and that's why you get so many reused scenes). When it comes to Destiny, she tries to use her illness as a crutch and people called her out on it because she was awful to begin with and she already recovered. So to make people back off of her, she created drama and accused Cagali's VA of seducing her husband (Fukuda). Shinn's VA backed his coworker and so she just made it so that everyone suffers. She literally threw the entire Destiny plotline to spite the entire production team for calling her BS out. That's why you only ever get to see 2 episodes of Cagali and Shinn being who they truly are. Then they do a whole 180 character. Shinn goes batshit crazy and becomes the villain. Cagali becomes a pathetic sobbing mess. Kira replaces Shinn as the full time protagonist. This is why during the revamp, Athrun ends up being the main protagonist of Destiny instead of Shinn (even though his character had always been meant as a supportive character). This is why Gundam 00 is the TRUEST Destiny plotline that we would ever have. Even your rewrite suffers from it because you only ever get 2 episodes of the TRUE Desinty plotline.

@@wanderingbufoon morosawa is the whole reason why i'm deciding to make rewrite's to destiny and the entire seed universe i don't care about the foundations all that matters is that i will try to bring back seed's lost potential Other than that i did make some other changes like durandel is actually a good guy and was actually a good friend of lacus's father, stellar isn't dead because her death seemed pretty pointless and for the entirety of destiny she isn't important nor is in the 3rd sequel concept i have but in the 4th sequel she has a major role of being a motherly type of person to the MC, muu is still dead and neo will still exist because i planned on having kira and cagalli having a secret older brother and for him to be neo he will be a major in the 3rd sequel as the captain of the ship we will be viewing and this time it will be the AF with a new friendly government but militaristic due to them having to limit military power after destiny as for cagalli she will be like what she was in the begining of destiny but after kira bridenaps cagalli (hey that was pretty good not gonna lie so i'm keeping it) she starts to return to her old self

@@zemo5218 well, when Morosawa and Fukuda actually worked, they really did create an amazing story. The reason why I keep saying Gundam 00 is because that is the outline that the VAs got when they were casted for their roles. They knew the general heading on how the story will progress and such. You even have accounts of Shinn's VA saying that the games have the true Shinn because the cast knew the story. As for the foundations, If it hadn't been rewritten as a spite story, all these characters may not have been what we know them as. So your rewrite is based off of the wrong notion. Basing everything on SEED, Morosawa's story and why it is so captivating is because it was meant to be grey. There is no side that that is good. Only that the other side is a bigger offender/violater. Destiny was suppose to bring TSA into the light of their hypocrisy.That Kira's idealism is the biggest chaotic force in that universe (similar to the Celestial Being's presence in the world and how they will go to war against war). I do agree that CE has a lot of potential but I was merely saying that the foundations that you OUGHT to use is Gundam 00 rather than the broken story that we know as Destiny as the 00 is a truer (if not the real one) plot for Destiny.

@@wanderingbufoon true they did work together but still the woman brought personal affairs to her show she is litterally too emotional and controlling Thats true but for some kira's pacifism is really bad in a way i mean sure they could reveal they're hypocrisy but thats not it i feel like kira could've been something more than a pacifist ultimate coordinator he could've become a veteran pilot who experienced losing a lot of his friends and comrades during the war and try's to minimize caaualties in the second war shinn could've gone from arrogant to a calm pilot athrun could've become the commander of the orb forces and trys to enforce orb's armed neutrality so that it could never become a battlefield ever again lacus as a trustworthy and a strong politician same with cagalli seriously they could've been something different and better than what they were that is why i believe that seed needs a reboot with all the characters having different developments i want to see kira, shinn and athrun take a different turn rather than the shithole we got 00 was ok but there was something that never appealed to me it felt like something was missing "was it the setting or the world building" thats what i asked myself there were some good elements but it didn't appeal to me as much as seed, wing, ibo, gundam x and the original there was some sort of element that was missing in 00 it could be there weren't enough people that didn't die i mean seriously there were two characters of the first ship they had, that i didn't even have any background on died and i was like "ok" then lockon dies and thats the end of the death tolls in 00 the thing the 00 needed was to kill of some characters not random characters. Sergei does not count as he only had a connection to that white haired girl (forgot her name) that is why 00 needed more time to build up characters and setting it could've done more and aliens don't count

I gave it some thoughts and here are my changes that I think would make the whole set up and the whole setting make sense: Earth government largely failed to address or neglected racism against Coordinators, causing mass migration and Coordinator dominance in space. PLANT municipal government starts to emerge. "Bloody Valentines" happened as a gene purists' terrorist act against Junius 7, causing massive casualties, the unification of PLANT government, formation of a new Council, and ZAFT, emerged largely using modified Coordinator civilian mobile suit. PLANT government started to massively expel naturals from its own sphere of influence due to distrust after terrorism attack. Neutron jammer and canceller was developed at the same time. ZAFT launched a massive amount of neutron jammers onto earth, stopping nuclear fission reactions and causing earth crust to have less activity, so the earth was somewhat colder. Factions inside Orb had some trade with ZAFT to have some neutron jammer cancellers launched into its land, preventing energy crisis within its own land. Orb's government suppressed the truth and claim it is caused by anomaly in canceller density and geothermal energy. Orb's land territory is located not in real world Japan but in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and other SA and SEA countries and some colonies in space. It works as an apprehended society reminiscent of South Africa and co. *Here's the important ones:* *The laser fusion reactor that the spaceships in this timeline uses cannot be cost effectively ignited without massive energy and 0 gravity environment. PLANT has Dyson matrices that can ignite the reactors in their 0 gravity environment, earth does not. This caused a massive drop in energy production level on earth, and they can only ignite new reactors and build new ships using the outer space they control. Even on the moon igniting a reactor will be pretty expensive energy cost wise. Apart from Orb, most population centers on earth had to rely on reactors on existing spaceships to power them, and this creates an ultra militarized society.* *After the initial calculation, the earth joint military hastily formed decided to use the numbers advantage they currently still have to invade PLANT in order to get the access to either the canceller they suspect PLANT already had, or some PLANTS to create fusion reactors since it is logistically very expensive to build your own PLANT. Their calculation was massively off and the battle turned into a stalemate. PLANT still require some mineral resources they get by trading with Orb (that's how Orb can survive as a "neutral" country, by trading smuggled technologies from space to earth and earth resources to space), and the earth alliance has a massive energy deficit, so both sides hates the idea of a prolonged conflict which they currently have and want the war to end as soon as possible, but there was so little to give in because the grievance was so huge.*

Too much soap opera and too many rules of the universe are broken by the story teller. Too bad, because the idea and premise are quite interesting. But the soap opera....gooooosh, cannot stand it.

Freedom Gundam

Yeah but what does it say

@@Tigery760 Deliberately didn't post it because it'd ruin the fun.

This. A lot of people seem to think he's some kind of invincible or messiah character, but I never really agreed with that view. Kira obviously wasn't on the level of the Red Coats early on in the series, even though he was almost holding his own 1 vs 4. Which in my opinion you could argue was more like 2 vs 3 because Mu did help Kira and Asuran wasn't really trying early on in the series. And in regard to him being viewed as some messiah. The only people that seem to think so are Rau Le Creuset and Rey Za Burrel. Most of his friends or acquaintances just respect Kira for his intelligence, skill and loyalty (Him trying to protect his friends). Kira never seems to think of himself as a messiah character, he's just doing what he thinks is right. Which, in his eyes, is trying to stop conflict from occurring with minimal casualties.

And the speech...my word! No ONE WILL TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY!!! NONE! SERIOUSLY THOSE WRITERS ARE DELUSIONAL.

Previous video got content id takedown'd. ~It happens~

Yes Shinn=Athrun and Akira combined and makes no sense lol

A multiverse story, where some how the main character of all gundam series teleport with their gundam to stop the ultimate destroy, The Lucifer gundam. What do you think?

​@@sangamchauhan3564isnt that the plot of super robot wars and SD gundam series?