I pray to the gods we get another Pathfinder game!

I am the type of person who completes a game, sets it aside and never really revisits it. I am on my 12th Wrath of the Righteous playthrough. My love for this game is bottomless. Please, Owlcat, make another Pathfinder game.

The tabletop versions of Kingmaker and Wrath both have rules for kingdom management. That's part of the reason for the strategy elements in both PC games

*It would be cool if Owlcat were commissioned to make a **_Starfinder_** game, which is Paizo's science-fiction sibling of **_Pathfinder._* 🤔

as much as i love their pathfinder games, i get the feeling they dont want to known as “the pathfinder game developers” and i dont blame them

Wrath of the Righteous is by far the most impressive CRPG I have ever played. I'm extremely excited to see where Owlcat goes next, and whether or not they can top WotR.

If that is true then it's insane. I thought Larian was crazy doing 2 games at once!

I just hope they don't fall into the trap that a lot of other game companies have fallen into, they look at a game like BG3 and then try to emulate it too much. Better is to stick with the classic crpg style they are good at.

Dude, I’m a CRPG fan in China with next to none warhammer knowledge at allbefore Rogue Trader. But damn it’s a good game. Not as much exciting as WOTR, but still you can immerse yourself in it soooo much. The dialogues and stories are so well written. Give it a try and give us a review pls!

I wish the owlcat would continue to support rogue trader and potentially making an rogue trader 2 game (or another warhammer rpg game - old world fantasy game maybe ?)

I’m not a 40k fan but rouge traders is making wish I was

All good news, just hope not over stretching. As stability on release has been a joke and the games fall apart by the last 3rd of the game. Hoping they keep getting better, been supporting them for a minute but not blind to the areas they need to improve.

Those are exciting news, Owlcat is my third favourite game developer. WoR was masterpiece!!

I hope they make Rogue Trader 2 and more warhammer games. Had so much fun with this game. It's amazing!

Considering 2 of the 4 are so recent, this sounds very reasonable. They're probably in the exploration phase where it's a very small team, and they could just be quickly shelved or merged into other projects. I just hope each individual game isn't forced into AAA scope like BG3 was, as that's not only risky, but there's also a very clear trade-off with the amount of freedom you can get at that level for a story-focused RPG.

"I happened to have a Russian friend who was in to" I feel like this is a weirdly common experience for CRPG players.

They’ve been also dropping quite a few posts about Cheliax Empire in their socials of late (I don’t remember, Russian or global tho). A pretty chunky hint to me.

Glad that someone made a video about it in English . I really enjoyed that interview, it was extremely informative to watch and lots of revealed stuff. I'm extremely thirsty for new pathfinder, I've started playing kingmaker again because of that haha

New pathfinder with higher production value but the same scale as wrath of the righteous would most likely dominate

Paizo has been working on the Pathfinder 2 Remaster, along with Starfinder 2E; which will bring Starfinder into the Pathfinder 2 Remaster ruleset. I hope that this means we may be getting a Starfinder 2 and or Pathfinder 2 game from Owlcat in the future!

Seems like a horrible idea - Owlcat can’t even release one game at a time without massive amount of bugs and missing/underdeveloped content, so making even two games at once would be a disaster.

I really hope they make a Pathfinder 2e game.

Another Pathfinder game for sure but I would like to see something in the World of Darkness setting. Vampire the Masquerade has Bloodlines but we could also get something for Mage, Werewolf or even Geist! Also on the realm of "pretty difficult to happen" Unknow Armies.

Holy crap, Owlcat's way bigger than I thought they were! I would also love another Pathfinder game from them, but a third person ARPG (which is what them making a game in Unreal immediately makes me think of) could be very interesting. Owlcat's in the same boat with Larian for me, in that I'm interested in pretty much anything they do right now. A bit like how I felt about Bioware 15 years ago, but hopefully Owlcat and Larian will remain at their peak longer.

I really like that the next games will be fully voiced. It is one of the reasons I had problems really getting into WOTR, because text is more limiting.

They nailed their Pathfinder games, you just need to see their growth, so I really hope one of those is a Pathfinder game to reinforce their position in the business, and then they have three opportunities to explore new possibilities.

Strategy elements are what make these games stand out to me. I severely dislike only being limited to 6 people when I have to change the world or beat near-deities. Having some larger control of the world makes it all make sense. That being said, both systems could do well to be more immersive and better designed...if we're rebuilding a dwarf fortress, visiting it on the map should now have a location with guards, builders, shops, etc.

Rogue Trader is awesome too. You need to play that asap.

I would love for them to make a Fallout isometric game. Also they could do a new Shadowrun game, with more budget than HBS games. Or a VtM isometric game, that would be amazing. But anything they announce I will be watching closely.

My ideas: Turn Based Strategy game in Pathfinder setting would be neat (Russians and other Slavs love Heroes of Might and Magic 3 for instance so it would be great move) Frostpunk like castle management(smaller game). Pathfinder third entry to series, classical RPG maybe little smaller than WotR.

I'm with you! Wrath of the Righteous was such an awesome game, I would really like another Pathfinder game from Owlcat! But listen to this idea for a second, what if Owlcat developed Baldur's Gate 4! Wouldn't that be amazing! From my perspective, Larian is the number 1 RPG developer with Owlcat running a very close 2nd place. So if Owlcat was to get D&D Licensing for a Baldur's Gate 4 game I think we would all be very happy! Have a great day!

To be honest, I may be the weirdo here, but I like the Kingdom management. What I don't like is the way it is implemented. It feels like two separate games. If they could create a good transition between these two, I would like it even more. What they should definitely do is reduce loading times significantly. Oh boy, this is so annoying to me because it breaks the flow of the game.

Can't wait to see what their grand strategy game is :O

I hope Owlcat also learn from BG3 that you don't need to stat bloat the hell out of the game. Kingmaker and WOTR are two of my favorite games, but man does it get tedious having to minmax to hit 60+ AC and precast every buff spell in the game on the party. Its like, you sure did put a lot of work putting all these archetypes and feats in the game, shame so many are useless due to the choices made on enemy design.

Kingmaker is excellent! WOTR is amazing! I´m playing Rogue Trader now. Excellent and intriguing! Can´t wait for more games.

Not a great idea of them to try to juggle multiple projects at once, but we'll see how it turns out.

I also bought Rouge Trader, as a huge 40K fan, but haven't touched it yet as I'm waiting for all the DLC to wrap up. Good studios simply need to be rewarded, when many developers are simply; captured and under ideological occupation.

This might be a generic response, but I hope one of those four games is a Pathfinder game based on the second edition.

Cinematics and voice acting are probably a large part of BG3 making inroads with new audiences, yes, but the fact that it is character driven also helps. A lot of these grand strategy games are not character driven whereas the character-driven variations like crusader kings as opposed to hearts of iron) draw a much wider audience.

If they have GW's licenses, I'd be very interested in seeing them try and make a game around the Age of Sigmar setting. Or a Necromunda-type expansion for Rogue Trader

I like the management systems a lot, but not necessarily the tactical aspects of them. I just enjoy the roleplay options that occur within them. I think they could certainly be improved though and I understand why they aren't a popular part of the games. I think if they made a game where the party has less overall power in the world, the system could be scrapped for that. But it makes too much sense if you're commanding a kingdom, army, or dynasty that you get to make both roleplay and gameplay decisions that influence those things. I would buy any rpg by them (at least for now), but I'd be hesitant to purchase a grand strategy game.

Wizards of the Coast recently anounced they are going all in on Digital D&D. Fingers crossed.

Im playing wrath of the righteous now. Once you get past the daunting amount of options it is a really enjoyable story.

I really really hope they don't go the same route BioWare has. It's cool if they grow and are able to deliver more games and higher quality but if they lose their soul along the way it would be a great loss imo.

I would love another Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Game, a Starfinder game (Starfinder is a space opera Pathfinder setting set long after Pathfinder to the point where the planet Pathfinder takes place on is lost or destroyed because there's an undetermined period of time which no one has any memories or records of and the plane disappeared during that) or better yet both.

You are definitely NOT the weirdo for disliking the "kingdom management" aspect of Kingmaker. That is one of the most common complaints and it is a well-grounded one too

Discovered Owlcat w/ “WH40K: Rogue Trader”! Great game, has gotten me into CRPG’s!

I'd love to see more pathfinder stuff. THe only thing that worries me is the fully voiced thing, it gives me Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2 flashbacks. Going from the list of dialog to Dialog Wheel was pure agony for me and we're JUST starting to shake that off. I hope they don't do the same type of thing, reduce choices for voices.

So, if only one game is new IP, means the three other games they work on are IP's either established by them or by someone else (if they are already working on a project for someone else). Also they are working already on an action game with Unreal Engine and they focus for now (most immediately 2-3 games) in narrative/RPG games. They mentioned the desire to make a grand tactical game and they have mentioned earlier their deep love for the Might and Magic series which is a huge influence among Russian game developers. So my wild guess for the nature of the projects is; The four games, 1-2 are Pathfinder-related, and one game could be continuing their Divinity series. Or maybe one game developed is new Might and Magic titled, either grand tactical or RPG oriented. The new IP is wild card guess what it's going to be, but possibly an RPG as well. Possibly action/RPG like Dragon's Doghma. Wild guess of the theme may perhaps be cyberpunk or maybe even shadowrun-themed RPG?

Hopefully they will make a FATAL game. It needs a Crpg version.

I think owlcat would do great to evolve their pathfinder systems further. They seem to be heading on a more tactical direction with combat, and thats what I'd like, like they did with rogue trader. Something closer to simulating the pen and paper experience rather than the classic crpg that usualy devolves into making gish characters that self buff then hit everything in real time to death. Addibg more verticality to combat, like BG3 and solasta did would be great too. Pathfinder WotR was an absolute gem of a game, and something with that scope with more tactical combat would be amazing.

I agree about the management systems in the games. Maybe I just don’t have enough experience grinding through them but my current take is that yeah they are somewhat of an inconvenience and they take away from just being able to focus on questing and character progression. I’d really like another pathfinder game. I’m really obsessed right now with WoTR.

it is not the first time they talk about a grand rts game and from what few hints they said it might be something like medieval total war since most of eastern europe it is still in love with middle ages themed games. I hope they will pull this cuz boy we need some competition

I'd be happy to see more Pathfinder and more 40k. However, if they're going to work with Paizo, it'd be smart on both sides for Owlcat to make a Starfinder game to coincide with the upcoming refresh.

A Warhammer Fantasy game would be great. Can easily have a diverse cast of characters from the different races and cultures.

I remember hearing something about a starfinder crpg rumor which maybe turned out to be rogue trader instead. But I would like to see Starfinder even though I'm a newbie at the pen and paper version.

I'd like to see a good blend of game types. You mention pathfinder, I'd like to see perhaps a RTS set in pathfinder's universe. Like, perhaps someone who has decided to lead Devils against the Demons of the Abyss. Have some sort of stats perhaps but make it more complicated than that Crusade system. Have some sort of Diplomacy mechanic where you court the support of Archdevils and remember to give proper thanks and pass along the proper 'respect' to those devils that are higher ranked than you so you can further your own aims etc, whether that means more troops than what the archdevil is obliged to provide or whatever, maybe even 'game' the promotion mechanic to make particular Devil's overly beholden to you because you just make sure they get promoted up the food chain, whereas they might otherwise be an Imp still but now they could be a Pit Fiend. Maybe have a realtime portion where it's like the Pathfinder we know and love when we are in something like Avernis, or even times when we are located on the battlefield itself and must fight whether because we've set ourselves as bait to entice someone like Pazazu or because we were literally outplotted by Pazazu or someone. I just think, while Pathfinder is exceptionally addicting to me, the license itself could have more done with it than just another RPG game, and I like those.

Honestly a company like owlcat getting so much bigger (500 people) makes me more nervous than anything. The last thing I want is owlcat releasing a big AAA beautiful crpg with a bajillion mocapped cutscenes and perfectly synced mouthes to go along with the fully voiced dialogue all at the cost of an actual interesting very deep beautifully written game. I love the wrath of the righteous style. I would love for owlcat to make another pathfinder based off 1st edition not the new 2nd edition. DONT dumb down the game and as you said get rid of all the extra crap like kingdom management/crusade management stuff. It always takes from their games imo and ends up becoming a real chore and if you choose to automate it you miss out on cool stuff. Just make another fantastic crpg like wrath without that extra fluff. I hope if they go about voicing everything it does not mean the writing will suffer. (shorter less descriptive writing in order to fit in the need to voice everything) Frankly I couldn't care less whether its voiced or not. It can be nice I must say but I like to put voices on the characters myself too.

RT is my fav owlcat game . But i am also a warhammer fan, that loves turnebased games. I owlcat is great studio!

I think that OWLCAT GAMES just doesn't have the same fame and praise as, say, Larian for being a "Russian studio". Pure Russophobia. Because anyone who loves RPGs and especially cRPGs cannot argue that the two Pathfinders, even though they are not perfect, are masterpieces in the genre. Even Kingdom Management in Kingmaker is a lot of fun (much more than Crusades in WOTR imho), I don't know why people hate it so much. I hope we have more Pathfinders, a much better system than the one used in the wonderful BG3.

I haven't played Kingmaker but I love and rate highly Wrath of the Righteous and Rogue Trader.

Is this a ponderous simian? Good to hear you talking about something you like!

I don’t think every random character in a game needs to be voiced, but every main and sidequest dialogue should be voiced imo. Game loses immersion when some do and some don’t.

Kingmaker and wrath are very good. The puzzles are trash and they are still very buggy. But if they make a skulls and shackles I will preorder it now.

Interesting stuff... since they are from Poland (if I'm not mistaken) they are kind of hard to reach for the non-european public, have you considered trying to reach out to them and ask for an interview? Or maybe get together with other youtubers such as yourself and try to get some sort of statemant from them? You could use this video as evidence that people want to know what they are up to, but because of language barrier a big slice of their public is being left out of the news, idk, just an idea. Great video as always!

Might be an unpopular opinion but whatever it is I hope it’s a turn based. I tried both Kingmaker and POTR and just couldn’t get into it, but I’m playing Rogue Trader right now and absolutely love it!

Their last 3 games have been amazing (yes I do live Rogue Trader). Spent 100’s of hours in each one. Getting ready to roll another character for WotR.

I would love to see a new Pathfinder 1e game. There’s plenty more modules they could draw from. I think it be cool to get one about the shackles. I could be a pirate game.

One of those is most likely the Rogue Trader - just like Pathfinder, they will be releasing numerous DLCs for it, so that's probably one of the four teams. Two I would say are more long-term projects in initial planning, strategy and pre-production phases and thus not needing a vast development team. So I would guess that the bulk of their development work will be: in 2024 / 2025 on RT DLCs and then on a brand new game; 2026+ Owlcat would switch to the two more long-term projects. The UE one I hope will be a properly made Dragon Age-like game with much deeper systems, taking over this genre from Bioware, which at this point is pretty much a lost cause. I think it is a smart move by Owlcat to build expertise with several game engines. They launched a lot of surveys after RT's release and the scope went much further than just RT feedback. Re: fully voiced games, I think Owlcat realised this when it popped up in half the Steam reviews for the Rogue Trader. Their first RT patch was massive and added a ton of voice-overs. They followed it recently with an even bigger patch and the game is by now pretty much fully voiced (dialogues, not flavour text and such, obviously).

Thinking that BG3 was so unbelievably successful because of the VA and cinematics is a big mistake. While the presentation of that game is top notch, and it's fully voice acted, those are just the icing on the cake. The bread and butter of that game is the ultra-reactive world. The rest is just icing on the cake. If you try to emulate what Larian is doing by just having the whole game voice acted and adding a shit-ton of cut-scenes, you'll bankrupt yourself. BG3's cinematics aren't traditional game cinematics, instead they flow in and out of the gameplay naturally, and that's what makes them so good. Traditional games have had had cinematic cut-scenes for years; it's not what set BG3 apart.

One of the only drawbacks to BG3 is that it has definitely made all the reading you have to do in other cRPGs take away from the experience. I like reading but I also read a bunch of books and it can just get too much with also having to read every cRPG I play. xD If WoTR was fully voice acted holy fuck.

Given the success of their Pathfinder games, and Rogue Trader, I'd love to see a marriage of those genres with a Starfinder game.

I can’t agree with you enough about the management systems Owlcat likes to include. It’s always a major pain and the entire time I’m thinking “God just let me play!”

Hoping for Pathfinder: Curse of the Crimson Throne!

I really want to see a wartales style roguelike game from them set in the pathfinder universe, to really let their amazing in depth class creation system breathe.

For me the strategy elements add to the immersion. It's always been a bit odd in games when you become a leader of an organization yet you don't have mechanics related to it. Too many strategy elements would be cumbersome tho so I do agree with you a bit.

Crusade management is perfect!

Does anyone else remember their survey? Babylon 5 would be a great setting, especially since the series was/is being continued :) We'll see, just let them do their thing ;)

Make a more convoluted, more in-depth game that has more choices than Wrath of the Righteous. I love spending time reading and studying options when playing an RPG.

Instead of four teams working on four games, they 'd better put ALL THESE PEOPLE to work on ONE turn - based isometric classic party - based rpg, their wrath of the righteous is still inexcusably bugged after all these years.

What they should do pathfinder wise is start from the beginning with rise of the runelords

Voice acting and curtscenes are nice, but IMO having a good character creation (appearence) is way more important for mass appeal, also the main thing thats keeping their games for being more popular is the ruleset not the lack of cutscenes, their core audience love this but there is just way too many options for the average player to not feel completely lost at character creation, Larian hit the jackpot with their implementation of 5E, that managed to feel deep without being too complicated, Im not sure if Owlcat will be able to do this without alieneting their main audience but i really hope they find the succes they deserve.

Sadly I think baldur's gate 3 was the last of it's kind it's popularity is due to the fact that it was baldur's gate so a lot of people that played the 2 came back to gaming just for it and the fact that it was voiced and multiplayer, crpg just do not do that well since there is a lot of reading and casual gamers do not read anymore, they could voice everything but if they do it the budget skyrocket to a whole new level and they have a lot more to lose. I hope crpg will still live on but I am not optimistic about another AAA crpg being as sucessfull as baldur's gate 3 in my lifetime

I want a starfinder 1e game. I think that they could do so much with the setting and mechanics. That, and I feel like there are alot less sci-fi crpgs then there ought to be.

Would also love a Starfinder game

I hated the kingdom management and crusade management. But the puzzles were by far the worst part.

Rogue Trader is very good. You will not be disappointed.

I'd love another pathfinder game. Wrath of Righteous was amazing

I wish they will continue to improve and create more WH40K stuff, Rouge Trader was a blast for me and I want more

Thanks for the update vid, I actually liked the mini games and yes they need to work on it but they can only get better at it. My experiences with bugs differe quite a lot, king was buggy for about a week , runing into x2 leveled monsters on certain parts of the map they should not have been in, but a patch pretty much fixed that, the rest I had no probs with though at times the timer thing did crimp my game so had to save scum at times :) Wrath was pretty solid for me only exception to date the horse mount still has weird things happen to its rider, quite funny actually Maybe they would change their mind on PF II , and yes SF I, or the upcoming SF II would be very cool to see, and if not Hell's rebels in old Chelly could be a fun AP to get into

Maybe they should instead finally send the Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous CE for her Kickstarter Supporter, who are waiting since nearly three! years for it. This company only see money, but not their own customers as important.

I really hope we get some Warhammer Fantasy cRpgs

If you like the pathfinder based crpg's you're gonna love it when you find out that both are based off adventure modules for pathfinder ttrpg. That being said, there are 12 modules. My favorites the pirate one. Yup...that's right. A pirate game in pathfinder. Ship combat...with sorcery and druids. It's fun when your first mate is a wereshark.

I really really hope they bring back "Neverwinter Nights"!!!!!

I still have hope for a starfinder game

pathfinder kingmaker is one of my all time fav crpg games overall. i'd love to see another pathfinder title

Personally I want more CRPGs, not just from Owlcat but from all of the game devs. I definitely want more Pathfinder based ones. I would love to finally be able to play a Gunslinger, so maybe Skull and Shackles or Iron Gods. On a similar vein I would love to see a Starfinder CRPG. I have purchased and played Rogue Trader and I was a little disappointed with it in the end. They put in their Alignment paths but I think they really punished the Dogmatic and Heretical Paths. Heretical barely has any support in terms of recruitable NPCs while as Dogmatic I got shafted on a few quests that I couldnt finish simply because I chose Dogmatic dialogue options... They could have at least made the quests fail and thus drop off of my quest log! Make it stop hurting my poor OCD brain!! I will be very disappointed with Owlcat if none of the four games they are working on are CRPGs. It doesnt have to be all of them, just one will do.

This guy sounds like a thoughtful primate.

I liked the crusade management system from Wrath, it just had a lot of bugs and wasn’t super tuned. Kingdom management from kingmaker however was hell, the timers are just too aggressive and random cards are a pain. It might have been better if it had a better tutorial to get through it, but it was too distracting from the main game. That being said, I would have loved for it to have worked. D&D 2e Birthright setting was a favorite of mine when I was a kid. I hope Owlcat continues to partner with Paizo to keep producing their content. Paizo AP’s are amazing source material and I would just love to keep playing them all. I’m not big into 2e for tabletop, but if they can modify the game engine on 2e and still hold the story I might be interested. I’ve just never been able to move on from 3x

Personally, I don't think Baldur's Gate 3 brought a "new precedent" for CRPGs because of voice acting and conversation Systems. Hell. In what timeline does theses people live? It seems like suddently Baldur's Gate 3 made everyone forget that Dragon Age Origins, Neverwinter Nights 2, Knights of the Old republic and The Witcher series ever existed and suddenly Baldur's Gate 3 inventend cinematic dialogues in CRPGs with dialogue trees and voice acting. The Pathfinder games came after all those games that I mentioned and didn't have these expensive features and It was never their intention to compete with those games. Pathfinder Games, Pillars of Etternity and even the Divinity games from larian came after Dragon Age Origns. Some of those games came after The Witcher 3 which has the BEST conversation system in an RPG of all time, even BETTER than Baldur's Gate 3. It doen't have the amount of branching consequences of Baldur's Gate 3, but certainly has a better writing with more "show don't tell" storytelling (not rellying on a narrator) and less expositive dialogues. I certainly wouldn't compalin if their games were fully voice acted, like... Dicos Elisyum Director's Cut for instance. But saying that Baldur's Gate "created a new precedent" is bullshit.