What is the Best Rolex Submariner Homage? | Invicta, Tisell, Steinhart, Squale, Davosa, Ginault

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What is the Best Rolex Submariner Homage | Invicta, Tisell, Steinhart, Squale, Davosa, Ginault on the JustBlueFish KZfaq channel, home of high quality wristwatch and horology related reviews and videos.
Thanks to Davosa for loaning the Ternos Professional for review. That watch can be found here on Amazon: amzn.to/2EfkiSC
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Today I am finally putting together my Rolex Submariner homage comparison video! I've been wanting to do this video for a long time, and with a lot of help I was able to get together a collection of some of the more popular Rolex Submariner homage watches for this video. We are looking at watches from Invicta, Tisell, Steinhart, Squale, Davosa and Ginault!
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@neuromancerXL 5 жыл бұрын

Out of the ones youve mentioned...steinhart 100%

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@ronsparks1001 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 42mm Steinhart and have been pretty happy with it. It was priced right and feel the quality is solid.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re good watches and good values, better than the lower end watches and a solid watch at a more affordable price than the higher end ones.

@ElCid_86 3 жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@weerobot 5 жыл бұрын

$1500 for Homage..........ROFL....Steinhart is winner for me...

@emptybucket1988 3 жыл бұрын

Why do people hate homage watches so much

@kencur9690 3 жыл бұрын

@@emptybucket1988 I don’t think he hated on the homage per se, but rather on the idea of spending quite a bit of money on one. And to be honest, I can see the validity of that argument, given that at that price point you’re entering territory were original individual pieces from historic brands are available. Of course, if you’re hell bent on getting an homage, then perhaps this may not affect your decision.

@chiliprepper7678 5 жыл бұрын

Get the Steinhart. ETA movement. I am on my 2nd Rolex Sub a ceramic. And got a used Steinhart 42 as beater. The Steinhart is awesome. Same ETA as my Tudor BB. Steinhart is solid and keeper for life. 👍

@mrbacchus6127 5 жыл бұрын

If the point of an homage is to get the look at a low price then Invicta wins. Appreciate the effort to put this together.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@waytoomany9997 5 жыл бұрын

Invicta wins for cheapest homage, also wins for cheapest quality. I wouldn't wear Invicta if it was on sale for free 50.

@markwolfson2023 4 жыл бұрын

@@waytoomany9997 Richard Perrett opened up a defective Invicta bezel insert. Underneath it, it was held up by a rusty piece of clothes hanger. This confirms that the watch will fall apart if attempting to use in water.

@wpherigo1 5 жыл бұрын

An excellent review! Definitely one of the best homage reviews I’ve seen anywhere on KZfaq . Having them all our at once is very effective. Impressive!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate it!

@dinodavanzo8536 Жыл бұрын

I have the Davosa Ternos Ceramic with ETA movement and couldn’t be happier. Thinner than the Professional, fits my 6.75 wrist perfectly, the case shape hugs the wrist, excellent bezel click and feel - a real quality piece.

@MercyShot83 5 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. I nearly had all of this watches through the years if in other Versions. The Ginault is the only one who stayed and i couldnt be happier.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

The Ginault is excellent.

@dhuwdhuwdhuw 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know why did I watch this video. I have the real submariner, yet I watched the whole damn thing; definitely a good job giving a brief explanation on every one of them. cheers.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Aldo, appreciate it!

@antonhallergren588 2 жыл бұрын

You should get a steinhart as a beater or when your watch is being serviced. My dealer whom I'm waiting for a Tudor BB or Rolex steel model told me one of those are good in the meantime. I'm gonna order one while waiting.

@lonewolf30531 5 жыл бұрын

STEINHART 42 mm ALL THE WAY IT punches above it’s price point ! Also I agree with you in regards to the Tisell not good.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I appreciate it!

@lonewolf30531 5 жыл бұрын

George Grasser , it’s probably the best homage offering . The 42mm versions are awesome . ETA movement plus all the other offerings . I purchased the jubliee bracelet and it’s probably one of the best I have handled . It is better than the Tudor offering and will probably be very close to the Rolex version.

@BrashCandicoot 5 жыл бұрын

I have the Steinhart and the Davosa and the Davosa is by far the best out of the two.

@Ukedc259 4 жыл бұрын

Steinhart is a great watch for the price. Solid movement, very substantial feeling, 42mm offers great wrist presence, I like the strap and the clasp, I think, is solid feeling. Cyclops is the only downer, but not a deal-breaker for me. Quality of finish on my Kermit is great. Really like it and would recommend with confidence. Also Steinhart customer service is excellent. Invicta also good value at the low end. If only they’d get rid of that godawful engraving. Don’t like dial design on the Squale. Never seen a Tissel, Davosa or Ginault up close. Like the look of the Davosa, although a bit big height wise.

@davel2734 4 жыл бұрын

Brendan Hughes ...care to elaborate on where the davosa beats the Steinhart...cause I’m considering them right now..thx

@torbensvensson2093 5 жыл бұрын

Good of you for getting your hands on all of this watches, for this was a very good comparison!! It bring the horology further!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Thanks Guy!!🙏🏻🙏🏻

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Torben.

@godfatherNYC 5 жыл бұрын

The Steinhart is a tremendous value and I fall into the "love" camp. I think you're selling it a bit short.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t think so. It’s a good watch, better quality than the lower end options but not quite as nice as the higher end. It is a good value with some shortcomings. I think I was fair.

@godfatherNYC 5 жыл бұрын

If I owned a genuine Submariner like you do, I'd probably feel the same. But for someone who $400-500 is a lot for a watch, I think it's a pretty incredible value and would still be even if they charged a few hundred more. Still- great video, thank you. I really enjoy your channel.

@joekelly9369 5 жыл бұрын

I have three steinharts one has been hot machine washed .and survived .. with the eta movements theyre no different to omega and breightling , for £400. No brainer

@robbiecleighmarks3088 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Steiny Ocean one 39 just like in this video. Best value for money in the lineup. ETA 2824-2, ceramic, superluminova, sapphire, 300m WR, fantastic screw down oyster bracelet... $4-$500... this guy must not know a bunch about movements and fit and finish.

@nicktel5414 4 жыл бұрын

I think the Steinhart is best value for Swiss made and I don’t think Ginault is 3 times better given the price.

@oliverpaul6021 5 жыл бұрын

The new Davosa Ternos should be 40mm and not so heavy in weight. In my Opinion Davosa and Ginault look so perfect and comes so close to the Sub. I think the Davosa offers the best value and the look is so noble. Great review, thank U Sir.

@JustOneMoreWatch 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Guy! Well done, great vid. I have also been gathering homages for a similar video in a couple of weeks. As you say, no easy feat. Great to hear your thoughts on some key pieces. Cheers, Jody

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely a pain getting this video together, I didn’t anticipate all the logistical problems when I had the idea. I’m looking forward to seeing yours!

@SoCalWatchReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Just One More Watch - I love your channel have been a long time subscriber! Can’t wait for the video! Miguel

@jn7812 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jody. Really looking forward to that. Be good if you could try and introduce some sort of ‘value criteria’ into yours. Comparing watches at various price points is interesting but of limited usefulness for those on a budget (aren’t we all?). For example is a Ginault really worth 5 or 6 Tisells? I know it’s a tall order and a lot would be personal (Question. What is value?) but would, imho, give your video a really unique, useful and practical edge. Waiting with nervous anticipation.

@willardhooton920 5 жыл бұрын

Both of you dudes are top reviewers👍

@jackgelber2506 5 жыл бұрын

these are helpful to those of us just learning. thank you both

@TT-ot1np 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the time that you took to produce this comparison. Thank you for the video.

@GNU_Linux_for_good 3 жыл бұрын

That was a thorough review. Thanks.

@jlm897 4 жыл бұрын

Great review, objective and precise. good quality video too!

@bearclooneywatches4186 5 жыл бұрын

Guy, you have produced exceptional comparison video and I appreciate significant effort!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bear, keep up the good work too.

@dirtymarek77 4 жыл бұрын

super video thanks for uploading and greets from good old bavaria!!!!! cheers ;-)

@eusupporter8438 5 жыл бұрын

You made a great job, thank you, very informative 👍 👍 👍

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@federhaus3224 5 жыл бұрын

Hell of a video. Thank you very much for your time and effort to put it together. 👍

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy.

@AngelLopez-rs8nm 4 жыл бұрын

I have my invicta for close to 15 years. Yup, that’s right. I have done nothing, and I mean nothing to this watch but wash it with a toothbrush and regular soap once a month. Keeps good time, it’s water PROOF, yes ocean swimming as well and although I work in heavy duty manufacturing I still looking for scratches in the crystal. Nicks and pits in the case and band? Just a few. Oh, one time I jumped into a water hole from 25 ft and the clasp came undone. OMG. Big deal, right? Mine was $60 I saved the $ 9,940 in a watch that I can ACTUALLY wear every day for my daughter’s college

@rolex0071 4 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@p5ychonaut 4 жыл бұрын

Best review of aby homage watch. Chasing the dream, the point on the horisont, people don't look around at all wonders that surround us.

@hasininan5501 5 жыл бұрын

The video we have all been waiting for. Thanks for getting into all this trouble for making it. The Davosa looks awesome btw, it has the greatest bang for the buck imho.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hasin glad you liked it.

@grantpowell9075 5 жыл бұрын

I've had a Squale 1545 Classic for about 3 years and I like it a lot. Looks great on wrist and it feels well built. Bezel action is spot on too. Nice video. Informative and interesting as always!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

The Squale really surprised me.

@lndyrd 3 жыл бұрын

my thought on the Steinhart cyclops magnification, it actually makes the date window (after magnification) when looking at the dial more symmetrical, it is about the same size as the hour markers. To me that symmetry made it more aesthetic and I didn't need the higher magnification to read it. Maybe that was Steinhart's thought when they used a lower magnification cyclops too

@kurtnunn6116 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great, detailed report.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@scottsodyssey2485 5 жыл бұрын

Great idea for a video and great job pulling it off. I have a Steinhart OVRed and like the Ocean One a lot as well. Thanks for putting this video together. I think my first Rolex will be an Explorer.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott, glad you liked the video.

@DrMack9696 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! Thanks for the effort to put it together!

@JustBlueFish 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@thenexthobby 5 жыл бұрын

Big thumbs up for concentrating on build quality and materials execution instead of stylistic differences.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@pedrosaenz2800 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very interesting. I like homages and Phoibos are part of my collection. Very reliable for more than 1.5 years so far.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I haven’t checked out a Phoibos yet. I’ll need to do that at some point. Thanks for watching!

@susfu4988 5 жыл бұрын

I second Pedro! I have the “Mark 1” Phoibos PY007C (black dial) and PY007B (blue dial). They are almost identical to the Tissel in price, spec, and quality (based on reviews I’ve seen), although without the glidelock clasp. The Miyota 9015s in them give my ETA 2824 watches a run for their money! Biggest complaint is the poor lume, which Phoibos has addressed in the new “Mark 2” PY007 models (which are sans cyclops).

@Tammacazi10 5 жыл бұрын

I have owned my pro diver for almost a year now and it shows no signs of wear other than minor scratches from daily use. I do however take extremely good care of my watches so maybe this is why mine is in such good working shape. I have tracked the time day to day and it is fairly accurate with about +8 seconds a day. I think what someone should take away here is that it really doesn't matter which watch you get as long as you take care of it. Great video and great comparison!

@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I think most people simply don’t take care of their stuff, and blame the watch instead of their treatment of it.

@Tammacazi10 4 ай бұрын

@@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 4 years later and my Pro Diver is holding up great! Time keeping has improved actually to about +5 seconds a day. No servicing or adjusting anything just wearing it in my cycles.

@991carreras3 5 жыл бұрын

Great review your my new favorite watch channel. Now after research i was pretty much set on the Steinhart diver but after watching this i now have to stepup the the Davosa in the 40mm. Since you turned me on to Davosa is there a special dealer to buy from so you get some credit. Also any special times Ginault runs a sale? Ill step up to that in they run special deals at certain times during the year and could i get a discount thru you on the Ginault. Thanks

@ejames6431 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review! Thank you.👍🏼

@blueshirtbuddah1665 5 жыл бұрын

A very comprehensive review. Well done Guy!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@RyanKentBarnhart 5 жыл бұрын

I still wear my Invicta, but I had issues with the power reserve. Had to get a winder to keep it running reliably. But the main issue was the water resistance. Took it to the Domincan last summer, and after about 20 minutes of surface snorkeling the inside fogged up. Have bought a Momemntum and two Phoibos since then and ALL of them have been water tight and much higher quality.

@thermionic1234567 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent job, both in terms of logistics and presentation! Just bid on a Ginault because of you!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the feedback.

@philirlam6403 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for all the effort you put in , a very helpful and interesting video,

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil.

@CBThis 5 жыл бұрын

Great video....I own a 116710 GMT as well as the Squale 1545 and Steinhart 39, clearly neither S watch is on the same level as the R watch however the price-to-value of both the Squale and Steinhart is ridiculously good! I will never sell and will always wear all three of these watches.

@haydnball990 5 жыл бұрын

Another thumbs up for Ginault. Superior build quality, perfect aesthetics and timekeeping at +1s/d which puts even the big boys to shame and I own a couple of JLC's

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and for watching Lewis.

@FitOutPost 5 жыл бұрын

I like how you synchronized all those timepieces in preparation for this video. It shows that you have a real attention for detail. Thanks for sharing.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, you’re the only one that noticed. Thanks!

@FitOutPost 5 жыл бұрын

@@JustBlueFish I subscribed.

@Mark-sd7fc 3 жыл бұрын

A real attention for detail or serious O C D like me, I finally see a video that didn’t make me check the light switches at top and bottom of the stairs to make sure their in the correct position

@darkosupic9960 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for nice video,very helpfull.Thinking of buying Ginault.I live in Croatia,Europe.What is the best and safest way to buy?Regards

@susfu4988 5 жыл бұрын

Great review as always Guy! Thanks for putting it together. I own the Steinhart OVM39 and love it. You’re spot on about the case shape, but that’s a minor issue. The bracelet is better than the claps to be sure, but given its military aesthetic, my OVM spends all its time on NATO straps anyways. Have had both the Steinhart Ocean One 39 Green (the Kermit) and the Tissel green dial (Hulk) in the cart online, but never pulled the trigger. Held out for the Ginault model identical to yours. And I am impatiently awaiting its arrival in the mail as we speak. USPS says to expect delivery this coming Monday. So I got that going for me. 😁

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Chuck. Congrats on the Ginault, I hope you enjoy it.

@rockon21ful 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video! Owning two 5 digit Submariners the only watch out of the group I would own and wear is the Ginault and I do own and love it! Bought at a deeper discount than they offer at this time I find the piece is simply amazing and built like a tank!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and I agree, the Ginault is the cream of the crop and a great watch.

@drfeelgoods1 5 жыл бұрын

I bought the Steinhart Ocean One Vintage Red and have been extremely pleased with the looks and durability. For me it was one of the best looking. My only complaint would be I wish it had a more robust clasp but it holds up perfectly well. Just a personal preference.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, enjoy that Steinhart. The Vintage Red looks really cool.

@triumph2013 5 жыл бұрын

I am just received my Steinhart Ocean One Vintage Red last week, it is clearly the best value for a Submariner homage.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Why’s it clearly the best value?

@amgolfer3591 2 жыл бұрын

@@JustBlueFish watch more videos on it. The Steinhart is the best value for the price point IMHO....Swiss movement, etc. The clasp is just "ok" but definitely NOT a deal breaker byt any stretch of the imagination. The Steinhart is a a wonderful homage to Submariner. The Ginault is also very nice but high price point. I will own soon as I know the quality is great.

@alextee2684 Жыл бұрын

@@JustBlueFish You forgot the ULTIMATE Rolex homage watches which are the san martin series and steel dive I bought for 110 pounds the steel dive smurf and the watch is not only the closest literally identical has decent specs as well ceramic bezel sapphire crystal stainless very high quality brushed finishing steel......and movement ok nothing special has the one that most of the others have the Seiko automatic NH35.

@jasonkeith1725 5 жыл бұрын

The Davosa Ternos is awesome. I have no regrets whatsoever with my purchase. I also have a Squale. Mine is the blue dial 1521. I highly recommend this brand to anyone who is an aficionado of dive watches.

@explorer4435 3 жыл бұрын

Are you still happy with your Davosa? I’m thinking of purchasing one 40 mm

@jasonkeith1725 3 жыл бұрын

@@explorer4435, still loving it. You should check out this brand.

@markwolfson2023 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with your review (the best of this range)! Just one note, the Davosa 43mm 500m is about 1200 not 860. The 40mm is correct at 769. I am new to these. I no longer feel it is worth it for a short lived smart watch (Fitbit does not even have a service department, non serviceable). But I purchased an 8926OB with the NH35A on Ebay. The watch will not manually wind or hack. It is back at the Invicta service center. I think they used an older NH25, which does not have these functions, used with an NH35A rotor! Made in Maylasia means that Seiko is out of control with their QC, so we all should take what you have said under advisement, we are getting fake news otherwise about this NH35A! I will next shoot for the Davosa 40mm, fits my 7 inch wrist. Thank you again.

@agilewolf 4 жыл бұрын

Subscribed! Great vid. And there are many more not included here that are definitely homages even if there are some other style differences (liking Seiko and NTH best). I think you got a bad movement in the Tissel as others I know with this watch have had great timegraphs. I'm glad you pointed out the differences in the Tissel vs Ginault clasps as I just ordered one hoping it was as nice as the Ginault. Since it was less than half the price and seeing your impressions...I guess I know what to expect now. Thanks and look forward to other vids.

@alihas1981 5 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on a well thought out and presented video. Very insightful and enjoyable viewing. Kind regards. Ali

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ali.

@alihas1981 5 жыл бұрын

JustBlueFish Watch Reviews and if I were to choose one it’d probably be the squale. I see it as “paying homage to...” not “homage of....” hope this makes sense

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Yep makes sense. Not a bad choice.

@superjfbm 5 жыл бұрын

love this vid. thanks. love the ginault.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@alfred030764 4 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend a couple of stores to find to buy a Ginault

@Potrvlb 5 жыл бұрын

Great job on this video. It is YOU and one other watch lover that got me beyond excited about the Ginault Ocean Rover with date. Well I pulled the pin and dropped the $1200 for the Ginault. Wow!! I am in love with the watch! Nicest watch I have ever purchased and worn and worth every penny! I find myself constantly looking at it and admiring it. I am one of those guys that ALWAYS has my watch on, I sleep with it on, I shower with it on, I do everything with my watch on and feel naked if I don’t have it and this Ginault simply feels awesome! The glide lock bracelet is genius! On a serious note I kinda feel this bracelet should really become the standard now on all men’s watches. It’s simply amazing. Not only is it fun to look at but it is so damn functional. Thank you my friend for making these very cool videos as I very much enjoy watching them.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad you’re enjoying the watch. It really is in a class of its own.

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 4 жыл бұрын

I voted with my money and bought the Squale 1545 maxi dial. I don't have Rolex money so I am a sucker for a nice homage. Great review.

@jblackjack 5 жыл бұрын

You pronounced Homage correctly, with a silent H! I subscribed! As an Homage, I got the Invicta for price only. Hope it lasts longer than your friends experience! Honest review! Keep it up.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@myyord7963 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. There are other equally good homage watches and when Rolex and grey market tell you "Buy the Ferrari of the watches, or at least the Tudor", one should think there're also Camry, Accord, Charger and Passat to pick from.

@fluffyfreak505 5 жыл бұрын

That Davosa feels and looks more like a SeaDweller to me, than a Submariner.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah like I said their 200m Diver at 40mm would have been a better comparison but this is what they loaned me.

@WatchGeek 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison. I was very close to getting a Tissel but gave up eventually. If only Steinhart have some curvature to it's models it would be my choice

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t buy a Tisell.

@dbonboard 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review and comprehensive comparison. I would like just to point out that the lowest end can go down to 22-25 dollars. Tevise (Chinese company with Chinese caliber) makes a brutal homage that has been becoming pretty popular as a beater. 30 meter "diver" (lol). With 65 to 90 dollars you can get a Loreo 200 meters Seagull movement and finally with 150 dollars you can find a Ticino sea viper (powered by Miyota 8215) 200 meters. All Chinese production that has become pretty popular because of low price and relatively "reliability". Thank you for this video, I believe it was needed. Keep it up Sir!!

@TinBin-Craig 5 жыл бұрын

all nice watches i like the Ginault the best cheers

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

The Ginault is special. It’s in a class of its own.

@jamesmcnary4939 5 жыл бұрын

I love my Ginault. I bought it as a promotion present to myself and now I wear it more than any of my other watches. They offer a 20% military/veteran discount for anyone reading.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

It’s a very nice watch. Excellent quality, fit and finishing.

@susfu4988 5 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the promotion James! Just ordered the Ginault - sort of a retirement present to myself - and am awaiting it’s arrival.

@Alex-1611 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I wear mine every day.

@mrbacchus6127 5 жыл бұрын

That's a cool discount

@jamesmcnary4939 5 жыл бұрын

mr bacchus they do discounts for holidays as well

@jn7812 5 жыл бұрын

Really good attempt to determine the best homage. It’s easy to take a variety of watches at different price points and compare them however it’s another thing to attempt some sort of value judgement. For example take the bracelet off the Tisell and put on a decent nato and most of your comments disappear and you’ve got yourself a real bargain - ceramic, sapphire and miyota at an excellent price. Similarly, an important aspect to some is the customer support and service facilities offered. From my experience Tisell and Steinhart offer superb after sales support whereas with some of their competitors you’re struggling to find an office address or phone number, never mind a willingness to resolve issues. Anyway as I said a great effort, really thought provoking.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I appreciate it.

@22Phanatic 5 жыл бұрын

Great Review Guy, fun to watch! I just ordered the Invicta Popeye version for fun, I’ll put it on a nato wear it as a fun beater! 😂 I still Love your Rolex Best tho! 😆

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert always a pleasure to hear from you. Thanks for watching.

@gixxergeezer4171 4 жыл бұрын

Another vote for the Steinhart here. The Premiums are particularly nice and very reasonable.

@airborneSGT 5 жыл бұрын

Great job and happy to lend you the Steinhart. My wife is happy her watch is headed back also. Funny enough the Steinhart IMHO is like a mashup between the 5 digit and current version Submariner. Also my five digit sub has the style of clasp you seem not to prefer. So just a warning if you go after a five digit sub the bracelets and clasps are nowhere near the modern claps and bracelets. Myself I like my 2008 Submariner as I do not prefer the super case (except on the pepsi GMT). This was the BEST Sub homage comparison hands down all without any bias to boot! Great job

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Manny, and tell your wife I’m sorry it took so long. I owe her one!

@ADudeAndHisWatches 5 жыл бұрын

Great look at those watches! Thanks!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@alicansunal3487 4 жыл бұрын

I own a Steinhart Ocean One 39 ceramic and i would hesitate to call it homage at all. Slightly different experience since i have owned homage watches from different brands. Steinhart offers even more than modern Swiss diver watches out there considering many brands offer eta elaboré grade movements for around 1000 USD. Thumbs up for Swiss made with German soul. Ofc Davosa Ternos would be my second choice.

@shlemp5183 5 жыл бұрын

you make the best watch review videos on youtube

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dbrph 5 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this video. Thank you.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@willardhooton920 5 жыл бұрын

Outstanding balanced presentation 👌 That Squale looks fantastic- I’d buy that in a heartbeat but I already have the Steiny 42mm OVM (and lovin’ it❤️)

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Willard appreciate the feedback, enjoy that OVM!

@agsaay 2 жыл бұрын

from first sight you can immediately tell that Davosa stands out. Looks amazing.

@gregalonzo747 5 жыл бұрын

Of the brands you reviewed I have Squale and Davosa. However, I have different models. The Squale GMT and the Davosa Argonautic are my preference. My question is how does the Ginault compare with Monta?

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I've only reviewed the Monta field watch, the Triumph model. I haven't seen their diver yet. For the most part the Ginault is as good if not better in terms of fit and finish, however Monta uses a Sellita SW300 movement. That movement is equivalent to the ETA2892 and is a better movement than the 2824.

@PhatkatCollections 5 жыл бұрын

great video I really enjoyed it.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@chrisp4170 5 жыл бұрын

So if I‘ve understood correctly, the point is being made that the Steinhart case isn’t even an attempt at a Sub copy? Steinhart has actually been doing it’s own thing, all this time? This is outrageous originality regarding which they deserve to be taken to task!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it's originality. I've had people comment that the Steinhart case is a copy of another model watch, but I'm not familiar enough with that to confirm.

@papatorr3669 4 жыл бұрын

Davosa has that cool dark blue dial! It and the Squale are a bit big for me though. The Steinhart and the Ginault are my picks. The Steinhart has many variations and I would buy it new. But I would wait for a deal on a used Ginault. Good review.

@shaneweightman 5 жыл бұрын

Good review , surprised you didn’t feature the panis diver , as I believe for the price they are fitted with a sapphire crystal , cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry to disappoint but it was hard enough getting these 6.

@drouleau 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting in the time/effort to get this review done. I really liked that Ginault and Davosa, although I just ordered a Steinhart Ocean One 39 Green yesterday.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I’m don’t think you’ll be disappointed with the Steinhart. It’s a solid watch that out performs the budget watches and is a lot more affordable than those top end models.

@waldemarkrzyzanowski970 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. I'm interested to buy that Devosa. The Rolex is to expensive for me so I'm looking for the best quality that I can get for about 1000 US. Could you give me your opinion about the Devosa ??

@tc6578 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks to you for putting together this comparison video of the various Sub homage divers. Personally, I do like the Squale but the lack of refinement on the brushing of the lugs really turned me off! The Ginault is also my favourite if not for the price. My threshold on this watch is $1000. The Steinhart is also nice for the money except that the lugs do not curve down to hug the wrist! Happy holidays everyone!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, hope you liked the video. I was surprised by the Squale, I liked it a lot more than I expected, one of the better values out of the bunch.

@trocchiettoski 4 жыл бұрын

I am a Steinhart lover, but you did a great job, pointing up the real issues, so you get my like, and gonna follow you cause independent advice is all I ask for. (do some video on Mods)

@williammaas937 5 жыл бұрын

I think the Davosa is an homage to the Seadweller. Nice video - thanks!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah their 40mm version would have been a better comparison but this is what they loaned me, and it’s a fine substitute.

@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a number of NH35’s and never had an issue with any of them. You’re actually the first reviewer who hasn’t called them rugged and reliable. Perhaps you’re just unlucky.

@thekeystonekid8687 5 жыл бұрын

I owned a Tisell before, it was about +3 seconds a day fast and had phenomenal bezel action. I wish I didn't sell it. I plan on getting a green one. They have 2 different websites, the one I bought from before sells them for $230. The only issue I had was that when you take off the bracelet there's very little room to fit a NATO on between the case and spring bar, other than that it was great.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent accuracy, I’d be happy with that.

@gabzsy4924 5 жыл бұрын

Mine is doing just that and the watch looks and feel phenomenal. Only problem I had was with the clasp, not the problems mentioned in this video, but I actually got a broken pin inside the socket of the end link in the clasp turning it useless. I contacted support and they told me it wasn't a manufacturer issue but how I handled it 😑. That was the only disappointment.

@francois007jeremiah 5 жыл бұрын

Great work! Thanks

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@richdubbya 5 жыл бұрын

Ginault. Hands down. All good but the Ginault is THE one you want.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@anastasiospapatsoris5326 4 жыл бұрын

I own a Tisell Marine Diver since January 2019 and I am very pleased with it. The Miyota 9015 movement beats at 28,800A/h has 24 jewels and keeps excellent time, typically gaining in the long term no more than 5s/d, whereas its variation is pretty tight. The watch wears very well on the wrist and its weight feels just about perfect at 140grams (much like the Submariner itself). The glidelock mechanism works perfectly in my sample and for 230$ this watch presents by far the best value for money proposition for a Rolex Submariner homage. I would therefore wholeheartedly recommend this diver watch.

@haythamawad8719 3 жыл бұрын

Any insights on san martin compared to tisell ? I am hesitant about the choice

@henrymeere6374 4 жыл бұрын

Got a tisell it runs superb, very happy with it

@shaneweightman 5 жыл бұрын

How did the invicta stack up on your graphed and how accurate was it , thanks Shane uk 🇬🇧

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't put it on my timegrapher or check it's accuracy. It was a watch someone loaned me for the video. That said it uses a relatively unimpressive Seiko movement, so I wouldn't expect much better than +/- 30 seconds a day.

@ashwinramesh1356 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same Invicta model - 8926OB. Mine runs at +3.5 secs per day.

@jamesbrown3965 5 жыл бұрын

Great job Sir !!

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks James

@d3xmeister 5 жыл бұрын

Guy, did you had issues also with the 4R35/36 ? Because I can resonate with you about some 7S movements and also a NH35, but I have a bunch of 4R35/36 powered Seikos and I am impressed, they are rock solid and very accurate, pretty stable, reliable so far (oldest one is from 2011, also have one from 2014) and all of them around or under 6 secs per day, and I see no change in the accuracy even on the oldest ones.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t recall specifically, I’ve seen fewer watches with the 4R movements, but the 4R has the same guts as the 7S so I would feel safe in assuming the same issues would exist. I am sure I did see these issues in the 6R movement and plenty of 7S movements. It’s not consistently in every watch but it comes up often enough for me to not trust it.

@daniellaw6033 2 жыл бұрын

Great review I was hoping to see the Gevril wall street homage collection in there.I recently purchased two a Kermit on a jubilee bracelet and a blue sub on a oyster.

@medris3438 3 жыл бұрын

Hi ! For info the magnifier of the date on the steinhart is always 1.5x compared to the Rolex sub who has a 2.5x ! Nice video :D

@dorningarts 5 жыл бұрын

I have owned the 40mm Davosa, it is outstanding, best bang for the buck

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

I wish they had sent the 40mm, but the one they did send is nice.

@mikearkous8379 3 жыл бұрын

How’s the quality compared to invicta?

@dorningarts 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikearkous8379 no comparison, the Davosa is probably the best diver I have seen under $1000, very well done, Invicta is pretty low end, I have owned lot in my early days, pretty much junk

@mikearkous8379 3 жыл бұрын

GLD Edmond thanks! Haha I have an invicta pro diver I love it. I’m saving for the davosa. My wrist sweats, will that cause blemish on the davosa like it does on invicta bracelet?

@explorer4435 3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking to purchase one ... do you still like your watch ?

@teamhonn 5 жыл бұрын

Hope this video gets lots of monitizing for you and many new subs.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@thewatchloungechris 5 жыл бұрын

Great comparison

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@derekshearer9049 5 жыл бұрын

I forgot to mention you have the best video quality and setup on KZfaq. I don't like AR coating at all, l have it on my Squale. That blue hue drives me nuts.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Derek I appreciate the feedback.

@eyeheartsushi2212 5 жыл бұрын

Derek Shearer What color dial is your Squale?

@derekshearer9049 5 жыл бұрын

@@eyeheartsushi2212. A dark Charcoal grey.

@roamy3605 5 жыл бұрын

Good job on the quick review and comparison of these watches. Great to see what you get or don't get for an increase in money. I wish all 6 companies would give a shot at an homage to a Rolex Explorer I. I've been looking for a great homage of an Exp. I for a long time. No one makes one. Yes I have seen every such and such brands trying. No luck. The closest sort of for me is the Montra Triumph. Quality wise the Montra is what I'm looking for but I want it a little closer to the original. Not exactly, but in the Ballpark. What do you think? You know the Explorer fairly well.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

The Monta is a nice watch, I reviewed it in the past. One or two small dislikes but overall solid. The Alpha Explorer is the closest homage you’re probably gonna find. I’ve hesrd good things about those Alpha watches and they’re affordable. Other alternatives that are unique but still have that same vibe would be Hamilton Khaki Field in 38mm, Seiko Sarb033, or if money isn’t an issue maybe the Tudor Black Bay and an Omega AT or Railmaster.

@Ott0vonBismarck 4 ай бұрын

what do you think about the cronos submariner homage l6005? thanks!

@Martinlavell 5 жыл бұрын

8 years and no service needed for my Invicta pro divers and they still run like new. So, I don't know what the deal was with your watch but, I have three and they're great in my humble opinion.

@ricktemmen6272 4 жыл бұрын

I own 4 Pro Divers and love the NH35 Movement. I also have a Seiko with the sister movement 4r36 and love it too.

@packisbetter90 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't either. Hated but good watches. No problems with then ever.

@JonnyBoss83 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic footage. Thanks for the wide range of pricing. Please review the new seamaster at some point in the not too distant future.

@JustBlueFish 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan. I’m working on getting a new Seamaster. Hopefully sometime soon!

@Robozgraggi Жыл бұрын

The Squale and the Davosa share a lot of similar features like the dodecagonal caseback, the endlinks, the clasp, the diver's extension, case shape and even to some extent the rough top brushing on the case. Sure the Davosa is bigger but it's very apparent that they are both identical in the way they are manufactured. I'm wondering if they both have the same suppliers or maybe one supplies the other. A more in depth video about that would be really interesting.