What Is The Cost Of Owning An Electric Mountain Bike?

What Is The Cost Of Owning An Electric Mountain Bike? | How Much Do You Spend?

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Many E-Bike owners don't factor in the cost of actually owning an E mountain bike and how much it will cost them to run each year. E-Bikes can cost a lot of money if you neglect them and need to replace a lot of parts at once, it's best to know roughly how much you should budget to avoid a big surprise when it comes to the first big service. How much money do you spend on EMTB upkeep each year? Do you have any tips to help make the components last even longer?
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@embn 2 жыл бұрын

👉 embn.me/TheCostOfEBikingREVISITED 👈

@johnoakleymusic 2 жыл бұрын

This video is total bollocks and shame on EMBN for being so alienating in this crap they’re spewing. This video should be pulled as it will do more harm than good!

@James-rf2ln 2 жыл бұрын

I've spent nothing on my Kenevo since purchasing in 2018. Except fancy grips&pedals. This video doesn't even mention batteries which will need replacing 1 day and cost a fortune

@FlyingFun. 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen a very similar video from these guys a while back. Scaremongering imho, Anyway I just ride a DIY hub drive so brakes are about all I need to do, but I am still on original pads ..

@ashleybeynon4161 2 жыл бұрын

3500 to run a high end ebike a year... be cheaper to have a new bike every year!

@FlyingFun. 2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleybeynon4161 yeah, sell it on and buy new lol. Hey good idea, I'll buy up all the 1 year old bikes cheap, give em a service and sell em on fir a big profit.....sounds familiar?

@neilclarke8817 2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleybeynon4161 very true in fact the same applied for my Ducati which I had for 5 years spent over £5k in servicing and parts etc so it would have been cheaper just to throw it in the bin and buy a new one. The bike was only £4.5k in the first place. Lesson learned do not do what you are told😂.

@angrymegamind5139 2 жыл бұрын

£3500 is absolutely nonsense. I’ve had my Focus Jam2 for over a year and do 150 - 200 km a week on it mostly on forest trails. I do all my own maintenance and apart from new handgrips and charging the battery I’ve spent nothing on it. Granted I’ve bought a lot of tools over the years as I have 4 other bikes but I’ve had no additional cost for the e-bike.

@embn 2 жыл бұрын

👀👉 embn.me/TheCostOfEBikingREVISITED

@jonathanbaird9865 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure this was good for the channel. Anybody that was looking at getting an E-Bike will almost certainly be put off now. £3500 a year is a ridiculous figure to come to

@DWillis7 2 жыл бұрын

Way over exaggerated too. It'll never cost that much unless you're doing 20+ miles every day. Tyres and brake pads are the main consumable. Everything else generally lasts a good amount of time if it's looked after and not mistreated.

@wizzyno1566 2 жыл бұрын

Im hoping he's including depreciation in there, in which case it may not be far off for a shop maintained, top end ebike. Maybe 2.5-3k more accurate? I was talking to a chap at Hamsterley 3 months ago who had just paid 600 quid for a service on his 8k bike. And dont forget the £3.20 for electricity 🤔 3.5k a year is ridiculous though, i used to race karts for a lot less than that.

@jcb208 2 жыл бұрын

2 years and 2000 miles has cost me about £150

@JoLe1991 2 жыл бұрын

suspension needs service, sure, but riding through mud when you can avoid it is plain stupid and costly. on the drivetrain side i have limited, yet very promising data: I'm rotating 3 chains (for the sake of convenience), all immersion waxed every 100-150km. Chain wear over the last 2000km is inexistant and chainrings, even 7075 alloy versions seem to last pretty long. Previously, the dirty oil film on and under the chain rollerd would eat the alloy chainring like a piece of cake, and the chain was ready for replacement (0.5% stretch) after 800km... some say a waxed chain can be good for 5000-15000 km. we'll see, but the cassette and chainring wear is very visibly absent. I'm using cheap metallic or ceramic pads from ali, cost around 5€ a pair and have incredible breaaking power. far from 20-30£...same goes for discs

@df9834 2 жыл бұрын

This is ridiculous. Ride every weekend. And probably have spent less than a quarter of what is being quoted here. Average 30 miles at weekends and 2500 ft climbing

@craigweightman799 2 жыл бұрын

I was looking at buying an ebike and this video just made me feel sick with your estimates on running costs 🤢 i'm so glad i read the comments from normal people and i'm now reassured again that this video is utter fantasy and i shall keep on looking for an ebike. Thank you normal people living in the real world. 👍

@DWillis7 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, don't let this video worry you. The only real cost is consumables like tyres and brake pads. Set of rotors every couple of years depending on how much you ride. Same with chains. And just basic maintenance like keeping the bike clean, chain lubed etc.

@stevejones7956 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig... i feel i have met you recently? You need to bear in mind that the replies come from a massively diverse audience of weights, climates and bike types. Having said that your rear tyre looked a bit thin on monday......

@stevejones7956 2 жыл бұрын

@@DWillis7 I think the key word there Daniel is "depending"

@yorakhunt447 2 жыл бұрын

Cheapest way I've found for charging is to ride to work and do it there.

@cameronyazdani6938 2 жыл бұрын

Empg is at least 2000 miles, riding with a charger is silly lad

@nils0riz0r 2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronyazdani6938 bruh... u can simply have a spare charger at work

@XennialGuy 2 жыл бұрын

@@nils0riz0r ... $200 for a spare charger. That's like 7 years of charging cost.

@FreeOfTheLoop 2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronyazdani6938 it's a joke

@mallias2683 2 жыл бұрын

Started laughing when 2 cassettes per year was mentioned. Come on people be realistic. How many kilometers you get per cassette? You ride 10000 km/year to change them twice? How rough do you treat your gear to make it wear that fast?

@ryanmichels2981 2 жыл бұрын

Must be shifting under full load all the time to beat up cassettes so badly. If you’re technique sucks so much then i guess you gotta pay for it.

@Nightxxx1 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I don't have this costs for an non electric Enduro which is only used in Bike Parks. The mentioned costs are higher as most of the people spend for their cars for maintenance. in a year :-)

@thomasmunch7968 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nightxxx1 He does factor in depreciation, which is a huge part of it.. I see alot of people trying to sell bikes that are 1-2 years old for around 50% of what they cost when new - thats a pretty big running cost per year,if you paid 8000 pounds for the bike

@CarkeekW 2 жыл бұрын

people who ride in mud and do say 5000km per year would be looking at such things , 1500 of it is depreciation . in my case not much mud and 2000km per year or so so 1000 plus 1500 depreciation. Chris had to generalize and took a more like a worst case scenario for the UK by the looks

@giddyup3451 2 жыл бұрын

They dont wear them out that quickly... this video is just sponsored by Shimano to get you to spend money replacing parts more often than you need to

@ManImErnst 2 жыл бұрын

No Idea why 359 people gave this a Thumbs up, this is a shame for the channel....

@DenisKz 2 жыл бұрын

This sounds more like the costs of maintenance for someone that is racing in competitions, not for the average Joe. As for washing, I wash my bike with a sponge, brush and a bucket of soapy water. I take the wheels of and clean them separately. Powerwashing can introduce water into where it isn't supposed to go.

@samplautz5586 Жыл бұрын

Lol yeah, I thought it was funny when he was like “you’re going to need a pressure washer and all this other stuff to wash your bike. I think this video is perfect for competition riders and the top professionals, even though he tries to make it seem like this is what every day users go through

@Unkn0wnC0mmand 2 жыл бұрын

BIG thumbs down. Man, I absolutely beat my Ebike to death on trails and such, averaging 300ish KM a week in very very hard riding conditions and I don’t spend anywhere even close to what you’re spending. Aside from chain/sprocket lube and the occasional tire/brake pad I haven’t done ANY maintenance to my bikes and they ride like the day I got them. What are you doing to your bikes? Shifting while under full electric throttle every single time you shift? Don’t know how the heck you’re wearing out your cassettes and chains that fast! I’m also running Bafang Ultra motors, which output way more torque than your reference motors and I still don’t have anywhere near the maintenance you guys are claiming. What FUD!

@philwebb606 2 жыл бұрын

Be cheaper buying and maintaining a Ducati

@Yoda-em5mt 2 жыл бұрын

Yep motor bikes are made properly no joke.

@wizzyno1566 2 жыл бұрын

Depreciation is the big cost long term. An 8k ebike will be worthless in 8 years. Theres a minimum of 80 quid a month. Most will turn them over faster and lose a lot more every year. So probably 125 quid a month for most. Mentioning electricity was silly, its almost free compared to all the other costs. Over the life of an 8k bike over 25k miles it will be maybe 100 quid? Good video!

@Nightxxx1 2 жыл бұрын

Its late but I can't remember depreciation was mentioned and depreciation is not running costs. Its a separate topic. Even if you write off your ebike of 10k off after 5 years you won't have costs of 3500 a year

@wizzyno1566 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nightxxx1 the video is "Cost to OWN an electic bike". The only thing worse than a pedant is an incorrect pedant.

@CHRIS_HITCHCOCK 2 жыл бұрын

That barrel is almost scraped through you’ve gone so low to find content. Who has to charge their battery everyday and change the cassette twice a year? Ridiculous.

@kevinshort3943 2 жыл бұрын

"What Is The Cost Of Owning An Electric Mountain Bike?" So far :- one rib, a twisted ankle and a bruised sternum.

@pascalkargut3237 2 жыл бұрын

That’s really funny

@markhamnett4997 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant.....

@tonycamaj 2 жыл бұрын

Haha … try a kidney and some lungs … funny no way for an average rider that’s maybe for the pros in those videos that get sponsored anyway I bet for the rest of the community you can half that and be good for a lifetime

@pawelodz8050 2 жыл бұрын

MTB- money to burn EMTB- EXTRA MONEY TO BURN 😂

@19bootsy68 2 жыл бұрын

I call Poppycock on the end prices. Anyone new and thinking about buying a E-mountain bike and has just watched this will be put off 🙁.

@chrismillsmtb6026 2 жыл бұрын

If my wife ever watches embm I my done for!!!

@godscreation111 2 жыл бұрын

My wife was with me when I watched this and she believed every word I'm so piss at embn for this crap.

@Yoda-em5mt 2 жыл бұрын

You guys will find out that chris is actually under pricing alot of the prices i ride a two non e bikes and last year rode 16000 km all single trail almost always dry dusty and i do all my own work fork services dropper rebuids everything and there is no way i could afford to ride if i had to buy my parts from bike shops i buy everything on line and shop around and every thing mtb wears fast and is expensive you'll see 😊😊😊😊

@davidgillespie1280 2 жыл бұрын

Really off putting video guys. You're one of my favorite channels, and this is the first video I've really disagreed with. I'm out here trying to win people over, and get back into or try e biking. If I tell one of my friends that not only do they have a $3k initial investment, but a roughly $1700 dollar yearly upkeep when they're only bringing home $40k with a family they'll say "no, thanks". I wouldn't blame them either. The way this video was geared entirely toward the upper class saddens me. There's a lot of people out there that love this sport just as much as their financial betters. They shouldn't feel alienated over their income. I'm not going to unsubscribe, but I'm very disappointed. Still love you guys though, keep up the good work (BESIDES this video). Stay well, and have a great day.

@schnitzelnudel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking depreciation into account, makes the total cost of ownership more transparent.

@gsum1000 2 жыл бұрын

I'm riding single track and cross country as often as my ancient bones will allow - a couple of times a week on average. My records show that my 4 year old bike has had two chain rings, two cassettes, four chains, five sets of brake pads and three motors (changed under warranty). It's also had a fair amount of grease, oil and soapy water. That's around a couple of hundred pounds per year.

@cc2681 2 жыл бұрын

I've had my Haibike Hardseven for 3.5 years and it's done a very hard, wet and muddy 3000 miles in Scotland - all offroad in all weather conditions. I keep a record of all costs and it currently stands at £700 per year. That figure includes upgrades like better forks, a spare battery, dropper post, etc. If I remove those upgrade costs then it works out at less than £300 per year

@simonbrisbane5431 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you get a battery that cheap ?

@cc2681 2 жыл бұрын

@@simonbrisbane5431 I didn't say how much the battery was! The figures were 'per year' and I've owned the bike for 3.5 years so I've spent £1400 on upgrades. Since you ask, the battery was actually £764 in 2018 for a genuine 500Wh Haibike Yamaha battery from the shop I bought the bike from.

@stevejones7956 2 жыл бұрын

Great to get some real numbers here CC. So thats 1000miles a year? Aside from upgrades interested to know what youve spent? Yearly

@faber62mb36 2 жыл бұрын

Two cassettes per year? 😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jonathanfysh4744 2 жыл бұрын

So apart from the frame you have to rebuild your emtb twice a year 😂 I'd love one but luckily I can't afford one in the first place.

@TravelWithLinAndBilly 2 жыл бұрын

These figures are completely unrealistic. The researcher needs to give his head a wobble. £3500 a year!? It’s cheaper to keep a Porsche on the road.

@jackdawes1965 2 жыл бұрын

Had my Haibike Hard 7 for 2 years Done 5000 miles Drivetrain lasted 3000 and replaced myself for about £60 kmc chain £10 Chainring £18 Cassette £28 The premium parts are ridiculous prices for consumables Use ebay n sales to pick up parts much cheaper Had 1 new tyre n changed pads twice Keep everything cleaned well n it lasts

@hypersailor 2 жыл бұрын

Cost of allowing fellow riders a quick blast on a new Giant Trance 2021 X E Pro 29er? Priceless. The same goes for getting 1,014 miles since Oct riding Utah deserts, ski resorts, doing 24 mile rides. The cost is less than indoor tennis fees. New friends/mates, priceless. Getting that same feeling we all had with our first bike, yeah priceless.

@01Peebee10 2 жыл бұрын

I had my Levo 3 years and when I sold it, I sold it with the original cassette. This is because I looked after it, kept it clean and most importantly, knew how to change gear. I only hope my new Torque.On will do so well.

@declanmolloy764 2 жыл бұрын

Did u ride the bike

@01Peebee10 2 жыл бұрын

@@declanmolloy764 Yep, not every day, just shy of 2000 miles.

@johnreese3762 2 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks Chris!

@phillee9651 2 жыл бұрын

i think if you leave in turbo/boost , ruthless with the gear change ,love mud and tow your mates up the hills , it won't be cheep .. ecco and careful gear change will help the transmision ..

@BABALOOEY46 2 жыл бұрын

What’s the real cost of NOT owning an EMTB? Unhappiness is very very expensive. ☺️ It’s great that you are explaining the true cost.... I’ve had a bafang m400 hardtail for two years and have done over 10,000 kms. I have paid around 30 cents AUD per km 👍🏻 The motor is still great as I’ve inspected it and the battery is at about 80-85% still good. I now have a focus JAM2 🥰 I have saved sooooo much as I live in town and hardly use my car! I even earn money using my bike for delivery... Tube/tyre puncture protection is worth investing in.

@GoncaloRijo 2 жыл бұрын

These cost are inflated... No way you need 2 cassets per year if you pedal it on the weekends... Not even 2 chains... I usually like your videos, but this one is pushing away newcomers and simple not true. A car costs way less than an emtb, and that is not correct...

@nedzmtb127 2 жыл бұрын

Couple of hundred quid a year tops if you’re pretty handy doing your own maintenance unless you’re doing the kind of mileage you do in your car!

@kippen64 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 15 year old road bike and it still has the same cassette. If he's serious, there's no way I am buying an e-mountain bike. Think I should unsubscribe.

@NickyNicest 2 жыл бұрын

Ya this video is in accurate unless you are absolutely trashing your bike tho unsubscribing over one exaggerated video is a bit petty don’t ya think?

@russmtb5670 2 жыл бұрын

I've had a 2018 Trek Powerfly 9 FS Plus E-Bike since launch only spent about £500 on parts. Ride every weekend mainly at Cannock Chase in all weather.

@stephendenagy3396 Жыл бұрын

This is madness! I have ridden 2,500 miles in my Turbo Levo I would say two chains, annual Lube/clean inspect. This year I splurged on a new wide range 12 speed cassette with SRAM AXS shifter. For three years I would say including yearly tires, and the purely discretionary shifter purchase, $1,600. Nowhere close to your estimate. You really need to make clear on mileage and use. If I put 2500 miles a year on it, I would guess $400-500 max. But could get by with less. Depreciation is a given, almost doesn’t count. ALL bikes depreciate! And I would argue e-bikes less so because used bikes are in demand. Really, I think no different than a regular bike of same use case. Eventually the motor may go, which is a good reason to stick with well known brands, Bosch, Brose, Shimano, and maybe Yamaha. The off brand hub motors and other Chinese knock offs are riskier. Especially batteries.

@davidalmit3418 2 жыл бұрын

A fan of most videos, not this one, had my Trek rail over a year, Bike parks and trails, no need to change anything yet? Possibly a back tire soon thats all.

@powertapping 2 жыл бұрын

I love your station and watch it all the time. I found your estimates were way off based on my use and DIY care. My bike, Giant E Reign, I ride the mountains of Lake Tahoe and love enduro style riding. I've got a little over 100 hrs of riding and so far outside of 2 broken derailleurs I've replaced 1 chain, and all maintenance and minor adjustments were under bike shop warranty. I'm just now doing my 1st front and rear shock service &200 and my brakes will need to be serviced soon but that's it. I really take care of my bike though, I clean, lube chain and shocks, check tire pressure and do a thorough look over after every ride. My mechanic is impressed as most of his work is on bikes that don't get the lovin I give mine. It's just money but I use it wisely and would rather by extras than spend it on stuff I can avoid. Be smart and take care of your gear.

@nicolapellegrino1072 2 жыл бұрын

Transmission costs depends on what you're doing... I replaced cassette and chain after 1500km on my trek rail, stock cassette was a slx with 51 cog in aluminum, that has been the "weak point" that forced me to replace it.. 😬 doing lots of technical climbing made me using often short gears and cassette wear out fast on 51.. anyway I replaced it with a deore 12 speed which is made all of steel and will last at least twice, weights more but I don't care about that.. so I suggest to do the same to keep you transmission as long as possible, aluminum shouldn't be used on ebike transmission at all but if you want to save weight you have to be prepared to spend lots of money on maintenance 😬

@markusilomaki8922 2 жыл бұрын

My bike cleanup cost cost includes an old kitchen brush and a garden hose cost 0£ 😀 even my pre covid XT fullsus emtb didnt cost 3500₤ 😀 value now after 1.5 years close to the purchase price.

@denesk2794 2 жыл бұрын

Brake pad wear is crazy on e-bikes. Rear tire wear and other tire failures are much higher on e-bikes. It is better on lighter bikes, but my first Haibike literally made the brake pad disappear on the first 2 weekends (bike park weekends with multi-battery days) ... If you lube/clean, your chain and cassette can last, but it is certainly not "normal bike" wear. I messed up more front tires on e-bikes than on normal bikes. Cush-core is a must if you are plowing through rocks.

@J0nny61 2 жыл бұрын

I've been ebiking since 2018 and do about 2000 miles a year. I do around 500 miles per chain and 1500 miles per cassette and chainring. My insurance gives me full cover even when I'm out and about and costs me around £40 on my house insurance. I do my own maintenance so I've had to buy a stand, pit pump, now changed to an electric compressor and the specialist tools. I've spent quite a bit on tyres and now run different ones in winter and summer. I've just bought some Continental Urban 29 x 2.5, £26 which are fine for trails and dryer conditions and save my Maxxis DH for winter as they wear very quickly. Tyre sealant, valves, cleaning materials, chain lube, don't add up to that much, Aldi have some great offers on Muc off. Battery degradation!! Maybe a new battery at £700 in 3 years time, or a new bike. I think I'm spending around £1000 per year.

@bownsaway 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative video the problem we have now in my area is theft 3 Ebikes stolen in the past 3 days a very expensive cost indeed and the way the culprits are doing it is really dangerous first all they ram you from behind by car or van and then steal the bike leaving you in shock and of course with injuries.

@jamiealite 2 жыл бұрын

Replace the cassette once or twice a year I think that’s a little much. I’m still rocking my original sram nx cassette on my 3yr old Stumpjumper comp and nothing wrong with it

@n.ull. 2 жыл бұрын

So what i'm gathering from this highly informative infomercial is to just, nota take care of the ebike , but instead get a new one every year. Price seems the same.

@tonycamaj 2 жыл бұрын

Question what’s a good emtb that’s great to use for climbing but can be used without motor on the way down I was in a bad car accident 5 years ago so my climbing abilities are at zero figured if I can get an emtb I can try to start again possibly after 5 years of PT chiro meds and doctors still can’t get back to climbing wondering if this tech can change things. Also any recommendations on trying a emtb never rode one. Thanks for taking the time to look at this post. All the best 5 stars in this program I learned a lot.

@vashon100 16 күн бұрын

3:10 If you rotate chains and follow sram's rule of not reusing a powerlock, then there's that cost too, adds up fast.

@TALLNDIRTY 2 жыл бұрын

I have put almost 3000kms on my 2019 Giant Trance E1 Pro ...and am still on the original oem equipment...I was expecting to change items like the rear cassette and chain ...but they are wearing extremely well..the rear tire is a bit worn...but will last this session. 🤷‍♂️. So far no complaints 👌 .

@yordankrushkov8488 2 жыл бұрын

That's the experience of most emtb owners, but that doesn't help the industry making enough money...

@jamesherd9132 2 жыл бұрын

Love this video I,m 72 and everyone says jimmy get an E bike so after watching I will stick to my 7 year old orange 5 which I love to bits

@clauzone03 2 жыл бұрын

It seems that for average riders that do not bike for a living, when you add all the costs and labor you are better off buying a cheaper e-bike and replacing it every 2-3 years when worn or broken. This way you get new technology every couple of years while possibly getting some of the cost back when selling the old bike.

@marknewton1599 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure of the cost in the UK as I live in Australia but as my current bike is my first EBike I am absolutely astonished at the rate I am using consumable parts. Where I ride and the amount I ride I only get 400km out of a set of rear brake pads 500km out of a chain I could squeeze another 100km out of the chain but to preserve the cassette and chainring I do it at 500 km. 2000km out the cassette and 2500km out of the jockey wheels on the deraileur. ( bearings shat themselves). I have 2800km on it atm. Bike gets washed and lubed after EVERY ride.

@cavegod1 2 жыл бұрын

My old 2017 Levo is still on original drive train no wear apparent, so it really depends on how many miles you do a year

@wizzyno1566 2 жыл бұрын

My first ebike was a 2016 cube hard tail. I broke every major component on it over 3 years, including the frame and both wheels. The battery went at 6k and the motor at 10k having been installed in another hard tail. Best 1400 quid i ever spent though 😃

@andymcpandy2128 2 жыл бұрын

I've been torture testing a Haibike for about three years...which is management speak for "I have done no maintenance at all, aside from a couple chains. I shudder to think what I'm gonna discover when i finally do a strip down. It ain't gonna cheap but as the saying goes, if it ain't fixed, don't break it...the screams go away if you just turn up the music.

@steviedee8921 2 жыл бұрын

Had a Mondraker level 29 for 2 years. Covered 3500 miles and it's cost over £700 in servicing. All suspension bushes (16 in nos ) Headset twice , 2 cassettes, 3 chains , motor bearings , rear wgeel axke....tge list goes on.

@andrewpeat530 2 жыл бұрын

11 speed sram setup on levo Cassette lasted me around 1000 miles and a new chain every 500miles (kept pretty clean), brake pads every 500-600 miles, 1 new butchers grid in 1000miles, rear hub bearing 1000miles , self service of fork and shock every 500miles And other stuff , levo motor every 1000 miles (under warranty)😂😂, fox 38 factory 160 because it transformed my bike and I love it though not strictly necessary 🤔😂😂😂 Just wanted to add maintenance costs have recently gone down as you can’t buy parts for love nor money at the moment

@TCK71 2 жыл бұрын

Soooo, let’s make a video to scare the shit out of new buyers and put them off completely! Great idea😳

@richardkaz2336 2 жыл бұрын

When if comes to the weight you needent worry about the weight of the gear cluster, cahin and chainring. if all you're adding is an extra 250g over and above the lighter and more expensive components it all becomes meaningless your adding less than 1.1% of the weight of your eMTB based on a 23kg bike. You would be better off going for a dump and pee before a ride. On my Trek/Boch setup I'm running 11 speed with a 10speed chain and it works perfectly. I haven't needed to change the gear cluster in 2 years but when I do I'll change to 10 speed cluster with a good spread of ratios and set the derailleur end limit screw to prevent the 11th position and probably drop to a 9 speed chain. The key to making the drive trail lasting is don't ride mud or wet sand, completely flush the chain every ride and completely soak and clean the chain in a solvent to remove all micro particles od grit and metal particles. If all your doing is re-lubing your chain then all you are doing in creating a grinding paste inside your chain and hot wax dip every 4-6 weeks as needed. This ensures it penetrates and remains inside all the voids inside the chain and won't drip out or attrack and hold grit. A power washer is a very bad idea if you intend to keep the bike for several years as it is asking to force water into electrical connections. motor and bearings. Bearings don't use the light weight grease. Use a lithium marine grease to pack all bearings. If you need to replace a bearing take to rubber seals off flush in clean petrol and re pack to 80% capacity with marine grease.

@Metzeler1 2 жыл бұрын

If you use gucky oils like dry lube or wet lube you need to change the cassette and chain once or twice a year. You will save a lot of money if you run a new cassette with 3 chains and USE CHAIN WAX like squirt lube for example. Start with the first chain, clean away the factory goo carefully and then lube it with liquid wax. Change to the second chain when the first chain has stretched to 0.5. Then repeat with the third chain until it stretched to 0.5. Then put on the no 1 chain until it stretched to 0.75 and repeat this with chain 2 and chain 3. THEN replace the the cassette an buy 3 new chains, repeat as above. This saves you a lot of money! 😃

@percyveer5974 2 жыл бұрын

I am assuming you are including depreciation in that figure of 3.5 UK pounds. If not it seems ridiculous. That equates to $6,500 AUD per annum. I "only" paid $7,000 for the bike.

@remynarx 2 жыл бұрын

Saw this channel and ignored it for a long time, girlfriend said she would like a emtb and i thought about giving this channel a try, saw this, never coming back again. Thanks, but I expected better.

@mrjapanimeniac 2 жыл бұрын

after 2 years i am on my 5th cassette(17000+kms) because of 3 canadian winters ...no more SRAM for me, just E*THIRTEEN(cheaper too) for my Levo(gen 2)

@Mark-ct8fk 2 жыл бұрын

1500GBP is probably more than 50% of the eMBs on the market. One thing I'd like to note - You talk about replacing the cassette twice a year, but the chain once possibly twice - My understanding is that chain stretch nukes other parts of the drivetrain, and needs to be kept a close eye on, yet you are talking about replacing what is in effect a consumable item (chain) once, and a non-consumable (cassette) twice in the same time period

@brucemacneil 2 жыл бұрын

Maintenance wise - if you can get away with less than $20 per day in repairs - props. Cassettes, brake pads, chains, chainrings - brake bleeds, miscellaneous tightening, shock adjusts, shock service, tires, ...

@aaronmoroney2066 2 жыл бұрын

Bicycle courier in Ireland's hilliest city - riding a haibike sduro 4.0, 3200kms. Oil every other day and degrease once a week, no replacements yet (bar obvious, brakes, tyres, tubes) still running so so smooth! Im concerned over the battery mileage, as I do 50+ / day. Any advice as to how long a motor will last? its a Yamaha, and find it very hard to find info online

@dodger1x 2 жыл бұрын

I had a 2019 kenevo expert. Bought on credit. Had to sell it to pay bills , and the cost to maintaine it was just to big. Had to sell it cheap because the battery had issues and there where lots of parts that needed to be changed. Even the winter tires was more expensive pr wheel to buy than winter tires for my gf’s car. And the car tires where with installment included. Now I’m bikeless and still in debt from the credit I took to buy my dreambike. Now I just spent my freetime watching Emtb videos on youtube. Dreaming of my next bad financial decision.

@jimbo4203 2 жыл бұрын

Ive had my turbo sl for over a year now, 1200 mi. Haven't spent a penny yet , but I just broke a tooth off one gear on rear cassette

@matthewlaw8268 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t really care how much it costs me for the grins and pleasure it provides!

@TheWeardale1 2 жыл бұрын

take home message from this is buy a decent bike, and do no maintenance, and sell it after a year for more or less the price you paid for it, and buy a new one...rinse and repeat...

@Northstar-Media 2 жыл бұрын

Think manufacturer's are going to start bring out E,bike spec dérailleurs & chains with the torque some of these motors are producing or maybe not keep us spending.

@pauljnicholls3929 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 7.0 xduro, one owner (me), nearly 3000 miles in 3 years.. Bought from shop new £3.600, today's value £2.400. All other bike related costs including bike on house insurance (covers bike in transit and theft at bike parks etc..) over 3 years £620 total. So there you go... Reality v's embn...

@stefanhansen5882 Ай бұрын

As a newbie I found this very interesting, except for one important thing: Is this for riding 100 km, 1.000 km, 10,000 km or 100,000 km yearly? Without this info the numbers are of little value. A typical car is about £0,50 pr. km. So, how does an eMTB compare? Thanks!

@stealthd295 2 жыл бұрын

i did 7000 miles in 5 yrs replaced 1 cassette, 2 chains 2 sets of pads 1 shop service no suspension services

@johnritchie8719 2 жыл бұрын

so for the price of running a top end ebike for a year you could buy a new non electric mtb every year just about!! well thats a no brainier !! and essentially get even fitter than you would on an e bike !! you would have to be mad or have more money than sense this video has made my mind up thats for sure !!

@giddyup3451 2 жыл бұрын

Advertorial from SRAM and Shimano telling you that you need to spend lots of money with them changing components more often than required

@discophil6726 2 жыл бұрын

Or an advert for SRAM and Shimano showing how crap their parts are if they wear out that fast

@hector5851 Жыл бұрын

A Rohloff gear hub sounds like a bargain now 😆

@alasdairhill5166 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but I don't agree with your running costs I'm an engineer and just serviced a mates bike , 2020 haibike hardtail which had been ubused .no maintenance at all . I rebuilt his Bosch motor all 10 bearings ,one rear wheel bearing a rear cassette and serviced his front forks . All motor bearings 173 pounds including upgrading with mudstop and seals forks a bit of work cassette 67 pounds and a rear wheel bearing 12 pounds oops forgot new chain 32.00 . My own bike is a haibike allmtn 6.0 2017 . I have done 3800 miles since buying new in 2018 and have changed 3 rear wheel bearings 2 front wheel bearings 2 jockey wheel bearings ,2 cassettes and 2 front chain rings ,headstock bearings and serviced the forks . I would be gutted if I had spent 3500 grand in maintenance it doesn't cost me that to maintain both of my motorbikes and my car lmao 😆

@jackweta 2 жыл бұрын

rohloff option almost looks worth it over 4yrs of drivetrain replacements, as you will likely need a new battery 4-5yrs on top

@dignamshane 2 жыл бұрын

Rohloff May be fine for a bit of cross country, but I wouldn’t take it to a bike park. I have a cross country touring bike with mountain bike tyres, front air forks and Rohloff gears and the feel of the belt drive and gears on single track wouldn’t be up to it. It’s a great system but not suited to the rough and tumble of mtb’ing. I get what you’re saying as they’re so maintenance free, but I would never put it on a mtb.

@steelframe 2 жыл бұрын

@@dignamshane Agree 100%. 6000 mi on a 2 yr old Riese & Muller, great on roads and gravel, OK on trails, but I wouldn't make a career of that. (But I'm an oldie so don't do that often anyway). This video explains why my last regular MTB lasted only 20 years, if I had done all this maintenance, I could still be riding it :)

@moozeex1 2 жыл бұрын

LOL This video is nothing but a 14 min Add. I commute on my canyon E ON every day for a year 18 miles every day and only thing i had to change was casete and chain (150£totall).Yes its not muddy conditions and all but i put more then 6k miles a year with five bike washes and maby 3 chain lubing sesions because I'm lazy. I dont think you would need a new drive train for an E bike for next two years BECAUSE NO ONE RIDES A BIKE ON A TRAIL EVERY DAY!!!ALSO WHY WOULD YOU INSURE YOUR BIKE IF YOU ONLY USE IT 1- 2 TIMES A WEEK ON A TRAIL. IF YOU SPEND 3K AND OVER ON A BIKE ITS JUST COMMON SENSE NOT TO LEAVE IT IN UNACCEPTABLE PLACE.

@pawejedryka8258 2 жыл бұрын

This cost is absolutely ridiculous or calculated for someone who rides 20k km a year.. One would have to be very unlucky to pay that much to maintain a daily car for a year

@davidpladgeman1462 2 жыл бұрын

These costs are way off. My cassette was £25 chain £25 for kmc, chain ring £25, tyres £30 each brake pads £7 and thats from local shops

@chaleowin7732 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to need a sponsor to afford this.

@johnorange3797 2 жыл бұрын

not sure if you know chris but you have a bent spoke on your rear wheel lol

@desrosij 2 жыл бұрын

Embn has to spec bikes...they are professional riders, they ride each day all year long in Arch conditions all the time...this does not apply to the majority, so these costs do not represent a clear picture. For me...I ride only in the fall and summer...so my parts will last quite a long time.

@yordankrushkov8488 2 жыл бұрын

Video should be called: How much the industry wants you to spend on your bike per year! Get real people, I did close to 2000km since last october and still on the same cassette and chainring (and I am using cheap chinese 104BCD aluminum narrow wide one) and my cassette looks like new. The "bike specific" cleaning products are a big money sink as well that you don't need. Isopropyl alcohol and shampoo ring a bell? And my 120ml bottle of chain lube for 10€ will last you whole season even more. And how about tires, i'm sick and tired of almost all youtube channels pushing all the time high end products only. There are perfectly good tires for less than 30€.

@declanmolloy764 2 жыл бұрын

Can u put a price on enjoying more trails.

@IT-fr4wb 2 жыл бұрын

be anal about cleaning/dry-lubing your chain. been changing chains @0.75% wear and got thru 4 chains (one roughly every 1100km) before my first new rear cassette. I expect a new chainring next cassette. 3 sets of pads so far (total 5000km so far) 2 tyres. Rest of bike (Focus Jam2) still rolling well out here in Noozieland, ride a lot of slow tech + t new rocky-base tracks they seem to be continuously building out here. Whole new life following emergency open-heart surgery/ love them.

@benjaminedelmann2577 2 жыл бұрын

Really unrealistic high cost….an average rider needs breakpads , tires and a chain once in a while ! Given the prices of evokes an Insurance should be considered, that’s it

@donbenincasa7442 2 жыл бұрын

Seems to me a bit excessive? I don’t know (or know of) anyone that has spent 25% to 50% of the original cost of their bike per year? But what do I know.

@EnriqueHernandez-yv7oq 2 жыл бұрын

This is good info., even though I have no bike .,yet I plan to do sometime soon.

@johnsshed995 2 жыл бұрын

What your actualy saying is an e bike costs more to run than my Harley Davidson 1200.? That's crazy ...

@stevec2857 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but if you're a noobie here you're gonna be frightened by this bollox! don't be! all the prices are speculative, RRP based fantasy! If you plan to hand your bike to a shop every time for maintenance then yeah, get spanked! shop around, learn to service it yourself, and no cassettes do not last 5 minutes, they can last for well over a year easy with regular cleaning - even longer. I'm not put off, no way....shopping around for demo's/hire on my first eMTB soon......plus have years of maintenance experience to help me. only motor and battery issues worry me.

@Fussel1978 2 жыл бұрын

My Car Cost much Less 😅

@FlyingFun. 2 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous, it cost nothing like that unless you just let the bike shop RIP you off every chance they get. My answer is just DIY, I converted a bike for £300 to electric 2 years ago and I've spent nothing on it since apart from a couple of quid for electric lol.

@erichbachman7363 2 жыл бұрын

0:56 do you see the "odd" looking spoke?

@kingerz 2 жыл бұрын

Deore 12 ring cassette is a better budget option.

@jeremycrouch5548 2 жыл бұрын

Probably about £600 per year for the average person (ignore depreciation and be sensible) Some bits of this were ridiculous

@stevejones7956 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for feedback Jeremy, it means a lot. Not a bad figure that but what did you find ridiculous?

@TheGolfdaily 2 жыл бұрын

I think my EV costs less to run per year and that includes insurance and electricity cost!

@rw7269 2 жыл бұрын

Even a deristricted e bike wouldn’t cost that much a year to maintain.

@rylandproud6551 2 жыл бұрын

The costs sound high for a bike, but if you were to rid of you car for one.....astronomically cheaper.

@nestserau 2 жыл бұрын

But you need a car to ride an MTB, so the comparison is pointless.

@haggismunchers69 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 £1500 a year! if that’s how much I’ll have to spend then my new bike it will be getting sold. This costs more than a car to maintain! This has to be a joke, you’re better off buying a new bike every year. My bike shop advised never to pressure wash an ebike as it can damage battery due to water ingress.

@craigb.5650 2 жыл бұрын

I was seriously considering a Emtb. Glad I watched this video, F-that noise. Bikes are already expensive, no way I can afford to pay that upkeep each year. Thanks for the heads up, no way ill ever buy one now!

@mallias2683 2 жыл бұрын

Don't pay any attention to this video. Go give yourself the best present you can. An e-mtb.

@nestserau 2 жыл бұрын

Emtbs don’t have any sense to me either. If I want some assistence I rather go ride a dirt bike.

@19bootsy68 2 жыл бұрын

Don't let it put you off my friend. Even Stevie Wonder could see the prices per year are wrong. Unless you are jobless and get out on your bike everyday riding over aggressively?..