What is the Difference Between ORCS, GOBLINS and URUK-HAI?

What is the Difference Between ORCS, GOBLINS and URUK-HAI? | Middle Earth Lore

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Today we look at the evil creatures from Middle-earth known as the Goblins, the Orcs and the Uruk-hai and we discuss what makes them all different!
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@procrastinator9 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's not canon but I love the Jackson creations of the various kinds of orcs/goblins/Uruk-Hai. The insecty ones, the apish ones, the beaky faced ones, the round headed ones, the porcine ones, etc. Such great make up and costume design.

@kraff2988 3 жыл бұрын

I like to think that goblins and orcs are very similar yet different species. And the gundabad orcs from the hobbit like Azog are also orcs but a different breed then Mordor orcs. I’m just gonna continue pretending in my head that Tolkien meant it like that 😬

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha exactly and thats the one that make sense to me too!

@terrymoneypenny2619 2 жыл бұрын

I agree and my game has special differences between them all as well as how you get a Goblin King

@terrymoneypenny2619 2 жыл бұрын

I agree except I play them all as modifications to the original Orc species

@gabrielelder7301 2 жыл бұрын

That's how it is in Tolkien's unreleased letters orc's and goblins are different species

@C-Jay_Underground 2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielelder7301 So what is everyone talking about then? I just read through the hobbit again this weekend and when he talks about Goblins for example he mentions them specifically for their skill

@gagaplex 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought orcs and goblins are the same, yes, but goblins are sort of "wild orcs" (not under direct control of the Dark Lord, albeit possible to influence), while orcs is used for more organized troops under the control of Morgoth, Sauron or Saruman. So, physically the same (apart from perhaps differences in training and nourishment), but one is more tribal while the other is more professional and organized and under more direct control.

@rushxanthemtcg5607 2 жыл бұрын

My own head cannon is that the goblins are the remnants of the original morgoth orcs, or perhaps they are dwarves or Hobbits who were turned and regular orcs are elves who were turned.

@jayanderson9375 2 жыл бұрын

Ferrel orcs

@brettharsha8257 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought these were along the lines of "Malcontents" ? Orcs being the malcontent of Elves; Goblins being the malcontent of Men; And Trolls being the malcontent of Ents, I've forgotten where I heard this. All are a malcontent of the original good?

@aSSGoblin1488 Жыл бұрын

if they are corrupted elves wouldnt the orcs be super rare? unsustainable numbers that cant really be used in war

@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын

A video about the half-orcs, etc. would be interesting to compliment this video.

@blue_ex3852 3 жыл бұрын

Rip to all the orcs I’ve killed in shadow of Mordor.

@TheBayzent 2 жыл бұрын

They deserved it for opposing ma boi Ratbag.

@Atlas_high-gaming 2 жыл бұрын

And they call themselves Uruks. URUKS I know they cocky but still might as well call themselves cave trolls

@wavelordcelliano1746 5 ай бұрын

@@TheBayzent lmfaooooooo ONG ratbag ftw

@diamondskull0739 3 жыл бұрын

I would love a video about half-orcs, hal-goblins, goblin-nen, and more!

@adammiller4122 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making me seem like a god-tier Tolkien scholar when talking with my friends lol

@jaelindsey4023 3 жыл бұрын

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@user-tb1ze5qm1f 3 жыл бұрын

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@kenzierains3363 2 жыл бұрын

FACTS lol

@zacklemay3543 2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@87Darksnake 3 жыл бұрын

Uruk-hai were later bred by the Wizard Saruman the White late in the Third Age, by his dark arts in the pits of Isengard. In the War of the Ring, the Uruk-hai made up a large part of Saruman's army, together with the Dunlendings, man-enemies of Rohan. There are suggestions that the Uruk-hai were the result of crossbreeding orcs and men.

@Mornathel 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that goblins were a slightly atrophied, subterranean sub-species of orc. Different but still the same family. And I forget where or if it comes from the moves but Saruman makes it sound like Uruk-Hai are a man-orc mixture

@AltoStratusX1 2 жыл бұрын

It's somewhere in the two towers, I believe because it says something to the effect of they have an easier time in the daylight then regular Orcs and can be trained easier because they are more intelligent. Could be wrong or mis remembering though.

@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 Жыл бұрын

i always thought that goblins were the ones crawling around moria as can be seen in the movie, huge swarms crawling on the walls and such

@anardistformerlynigel5250 3 жыл бұрын

I figure their "corruption" was generations after generations of trauma essentially being tortured underground until their people knew nothing but cruelty.

@BaronCrikeyVonPesto 3 жыл бұрын

this. a few years of abject cruelty can change someone body and soul forever, nevermind generations of abject cruelty, enslavement and darkness, the the only light known is from burning things, until you can't even dream of stars. its heartbreaking

@anardistformerlynigel5250 3 жыл бұрын

@@BaronCrikeyVonPesto True, individual trauma can have profound effects and Epigenetic Trauma is a very real thing. Very Heartbreaking.

@rnash999 2 жыл бұрын

And then Tolkien said it never happened and orcs didn't get made from elves.

@jessemullin5632 3 жыл бұрын

Yes please, a video on other orc varients would be most welcome. And perhaps at some point (forgive me if this has been covered before) we can hear about the troll-men of the Haradrim? I know there is likely little on them, but I've always been fascinated by Rhun and Harad and their peoples and cultures.

@fishy0929 Жыл бұрын

I always viewed orcs and goblins as similar, but slightly different races. Like goblins were orcs that deteriorated into being smaller and more prone to walking on all four legs because of their smaller stature. Like how the first orcs like Adar still looked like a elf more than orc, but after generations we got the orcs we know today. So my thought was that over generations orcs kept deteriorating into goblins.

@HobbitNinjaWizard 3 жыл бұрын

I just finished rewatching The Lord of the Rings movies. Such a great adaptation! :D Great video, guys!

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

I have watched them like 1 time every month for the last 17 years and I never get bored of them! The best movies ever made and specially the extended versions!

@HobbitNinjaWizard 3 жыл бұрын

@@C-Jay_Underground Yesss! :D

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

@@HobbitNinjaWizard Haha cheers my friend!

@iasimov5960 3 жыл бұрын

If I recall correctly, "hob-" was an Old English prefix meaning "small" (hence its presence in the word "hobbit"). I reasoned that a hobgoblin was a smaller variation of a goblin or orc.

@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын

Considering that an orc was roughly the size of an hobbit according to this video, that's a really small creature..

@HerrrLuna 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I remember reading something about Tolkien actually admitted he had made a mistake by calling the larger ones "hobgoblins". So in later versions, they were renamed to Uruk-hai. But it seems the damage was already done, since it has become a trend in modern fantasy to call larger versions of goblins for "hobgoblins"...

@jamesaron1967 3 жыл бұрын

@@HerrrLuna Yes, I had always imagined 'hobgoblins' to be larger, and that's going back to the early 80s when I was first exposed to fantasy.

@monawrath6597 3 жыл бұрын

Great video guys! Keep up the great work!

@jamiegregg9211 3 жыл бұрын

cool video James enjoyed can't wait for the next one

@Greenmick6982 3 жыл бұрын

Talk about the Olog-hai. I’ve always been curious about them, their intelligence, and skill.

@wisedude4285 3 жыл бұрын

I still disagree with the conflation of Uruk and Uruk-hai to be synonymous. They are not. Professor Tolkien clearly made a distinction that Uruks were the improvement made by Sauron to the original orc whereas Uruk-hai are the improvement and iterative change made by Saruman to the standard Uruk and (some would argue) were crossed with Dunlandings to create that superior species of Uruk. It was a qualm I had when you made the video on H.O.T.A. and I had hoped you would draw a greater distinction in this redone version.

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what it is and you are right!

@oldoneeye7516 3 жыл бұрын

100 % agree if one wants to be precise.Uruk-hai are decribed on multiple occasions as very alike to men in appearance, Uruks on the other hand not so much. The Term Orc-Folk resembles (at least in the opinion of some, including me) that they are only partly of orcish heritage. Nevertheless, I think the video is overall very well done!

@Aurora2097 3 жыл бұрын

No, Uruks and Uruk-hai are used interchangably.

@wisedude4285 3 жыл бұрын

@@Aurora2097 if you've read the books, that is not correct.

@Crafty_Spirit 3 жыл бұрын

But if the term half-orc is used distinctively from Uruk, would that not indicate that human admixture is specific for half-orcs?

@DigitalDuelist 3 жыл бұрын

*Sauramon should have threw some troll into the Uruk admixture for greater size and strength.Those would have something to behold.

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

I have always seen these as different types of Orcs! The way the books describes them makes me see it that way and the way the LOTR movies portraits that is perfect in my opinion! For example a Chihuahua and a German Shepard are different species but both of them are dogs. This topic will always be hot among Tolkien fans🔥

@techelitesareadisease8816 2 жыл бұрын

a chihuahua and german shepherd are actually the same species lol, thats what a "dog" is. They're different breeds, not indifferent to being different in race like people are.

@targun6063 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean "the way the books describes them"? Be it Uruk-hai in Saruman's service, an Orcs from Mordor or Orcs from the Misty Mountains, all of them have been called goblin in LotR.

@GlorfindelofGondolin 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, as usual. Keep up the grand work.

@Galimeer5 2 жыл бұрын

I always figured goblins were a small cave-dwelling variant of orc; "cave orcs" so to speak, while "uruk" was a shorthand name for "uruk-hai," the bigger, stronger breed of orc that comprised the Isengard's army.

@TuleeMaster 2 жыл бұрын

Just ran into this channel looking up cool LOTR scenes on KZfaq. Great channel bro, got a like and subscribe here.

@Eudaimonist 2 жыл бұрын

In my reading of LOTR, Saruman was breeding orcs and men, making a hybrid species. This is in imitation of Sauron doing essentially the same thing to make his "upgraded" orcs. This is what the whole half-orcs and goblin-man was about. Saruman's breeding project to create a race of super-soldiers was part of his decent into depravity.

@mithrandir1452 3 жыл бұрын

Bring me an Army worthy of Mordor

@C-Jay_Underground 3 жыл бұрын

Bring me a Mordor worthy of an Army!

@mattbryant4910 3 жыл бұрын

keep them coming guys.

@ChainsawDunDeez 3 жыл бұрын

while I agree with your interpretation of the orc terms....I must admit...that in my late teens reading the books (before the LotR movies existed) that my imagination was similar to how Peter Jackson represented the different types in LotR and the Hobbit movies...

@captain_dsz6049 3 жыл бұрын

thisvideo was so brilliant thank you for this

@joannakleinheksel-horn3494 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thank you :-)

@maksphoto78 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Yes please, I'd love a video about half-orcs.

@KrisSingleton 2 жыл бұрын

As a kid reading the books (my first fantasy novels) I read goblins and orcs being the same thing, different name. It was Dungeons and Dragons that was the first bit of material I saw to consider them different creatures (actually it might have been the Fighting Fantasy gamebook things that I saw it first). It was advantageous for RPG's to have as much material for monsters as possible. And then heaps of novels, of course. But I could be wrong, that's just how I remember it in the 80's

@andreykuzmin4355 3 жыл бұрын

Orcs: brutal, but cunning. Goblins: cunning, but brutal. Uruks: brutal AND cunning.

@tathemrelag3123 3 жыл бұрын

*WAAAGH!*

@tando6266 3 жыл бұрын

@@tathemrelag3123 Wrong IP, that's the one that hasn't got a unique creative bone in its rotten corporate corpse.

@andreykuzmin4355 3 жыл бұрын

@@tando6266 Wow, are you a joy of the party... It was a joke, mate.

@MrMacavity 3 жыл бұрын

keep up the good work

@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 2 жыл бұрын

I can't wait until the movie "The Adventures of Shagrat and Gorbag: The Good Old Days"

@zintosion 3 жыл бұрын

8:01 lol at the artist name

@Divine_Chareka 3 жыл бұрын

What an interesting topic, loving these vids.

@carlmorland7796 3 жыл бұрын

Then follow lore of the rings, they done this exact video 6 month ago

@TheBrokenSword 3 жыл бұрын

And we uploaded this on the 9th of October 2018 🙃 This is an updated version for this channel. Sooo... yeah.

@Divine_Chareka 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBrokenSword don't mind them haters

@nicholassieloff8701 3 жыл бұрын

I've never even heard of lore of the rings. You guys are better than Men of the West!

@slaintwice 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see more orc videos in the future!

@squlque5787 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to point out that when Bilbo encountered the goblins of the misty mountains they were described as big very big. in fact the great goblin was going to bite off Thorin's head.

@Spunky786 2 жыл бұрын

There were also the Gundabad Orcs who orginally served The Witch King until Angmar fell, dunno if the Witch King made any changes to them but they must have been pretty badass if they managed to capture Mount Gundabad from the Dwarves of Durin.

@fishy0929 Жыл бұрын

Also I viewed black uruks and uruk hai as being slightly different. Both are upgrades from regular orcs, but urukhai are sarumons improved orc and black uruks are saurons improved orc. With the former being slightly better of the two uruks.

@the_beast_among_sheep 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely need another orc vid!!

@ClassicHarleyQuinn 3 жыл бұрын

I would like you cover all orc variants.

@florniov 2 жыл бұрын

Yes please make the other video, would be very interested in hearing about the other types of orcs

@airsphinx3965 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the term goblin is usually used when referencing a smaller orc when orc is used to reference normal sized orcs

@Aurora2097 3 жыл бұрын

There also is one thing: peeps generally assume All Uruk-hai are immune to sunlight, there actually is little clue that this is the case.It is a specific trairt of Saruman's orcs... we know some of the Orcs of Ugluks company were Snagas, lesser orcs, yet they seemingly also were immune to sunlight.So it is not entirely clear if the larger statued goblins Aragorn referred to in the scene you quoted... as Aragorn was a soldier in gondor he most likely had met sauron's Black uruks and was aware of them.

@justinwhitson8399 3 жыл бұрын

Def would like to see the other variants of orc. Love the channel!

@TheBrokenSword 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😊

@deadybrock 2 жыл бұрын

I wish there was a better description than just "corrupting some of the first elves". Like how did he do that? Why is their appearance different? How do they multiply? Lots of holes.

@jasonframe7312 3 жыл бұрын

Love to see a video of the other orc breeds like the half-orcs

@tc9499 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! More Orcs, please!

@Zomfoo 3 жыл бұрын

You got it exactly right. Thank you.

@georgebancroft6819 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. Would you be able to add subtitles to future videos? I'm deaf and subtitles not an option on your vids :)

@scottburns4458 3 жыл бұрын

Interested in seeing your videos on half-orcs etc Cheers

@stephenhill6003 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, let's keep this going. It's all very interesting.

@MrWizards1974 3 жыл бұрын

Gandalf mentioned Saruman breeding the Uruks to possess the traits of "orcs and goblin men" without the two races' weaknesses. Saruman called them "His fighting uruk-hai"

@myusher2 3 жыл бұрын

a video about the other kind of orcs would be amazing

@danielbroadhurst1319 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video about the different types of orc's.

@freddaniel5099 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative. More orcs, please.

@smolwavingsnail9028 2 жыл бұрын

i feel like the different design choice of "orks" and "goblins" is actually a pretty important subject. like the goblins in moria have spent all their time in the dark so they would have evolved to suit that environment. where as the more "orcy" orcs and the uruk-hai spend a lot more time above the ground so they would have evolved differently. so i'd say even though they aren't technically different by lore standards they really are and probably should have been more defined into different sub species from a logical perspective

@nicholassieloff8701 3 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or the Orcs have the coolest names in the Tolkien universe.

@everettmanser3997 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a video regarding the other types of Orcs.

@davidfuson9982 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and yes tell me more. You help me decompress at the end of my day. I will say it again thank you. 😊

@kjdempsey Жыл бұрын

Most orcs and goblins have phimosis or paraphimosis where as the Uruk Hai were all circumcised

@casasso94 3 жыл бұрын

A video on Half orcs would be very interesting and informative. They were completely overlooked in the Jackson films meanwhile they were prominent in the books. Also not many KZfaq videos go into great detail on Half orcs and goblin men

@mohammadghezelli3961 2 жыл бұрын

Ty so much, I like to know more about morannon orcs or black orcs from black gate of mordor. And also half- orcs of Isegard who bred by Saruman in the late Third Age. Ty so much

@AerialAg 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought the creatures in Moria were goblins or trolls since they could so easily climb up and down the large columns ... could orcs do that?

@jayanderson9375 2 жыл бұрын

Yes please more on the other other irc variants!!

@bryannahope6764 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure why this popped up in my recommended but I am oh so happy it did

@Caffeine_And_Seawater 3 жыл бұрын

With the first creation of orcs, I believe they are not actually corrupted Elves but mockeries made be Morgoth, in the same way Trolls are mockeries of Ents but we’re never ents themselves. I’m pretty sure, but can’t give the reference, that this was JRR Tolkien’s view in latter writings that conflict with what Christopher Tolkien put in the Silmarillion

@nosleepsheep6084 3 жыл бұрын

It could be that the term goblin was used predominantly by the people around Bree and up into the Shire. So mainly by hobbits, and, given that Bilbo is the protagonist, they would be referred to mainly as such. And anyone else calling them goblins, such as the dwarves or Gandalf, would have called them that for clarity.

@ronalddiaz9441 2 жыл бұрын

You need to do one called. " What if the Eagles picked up Sam and Frodo and dropped them off on Mt. Doom to destroy the ring?

@ryanol 3 жыл бұрын

yes to more gobo videos please

@Ziggy7800Pro 3 жыл бұрын

Yes more orc talk is always good.

@wagon9082 3 жыл бұрын

Good Video

@urfacecalling101 3 жыл бұрын

We definitely need a video about all the nuanced subgroups of orcs.

@MountainGuerrilla 2 жыл бұрын

so basically just different races of the same people, like humans, this more easily explains the differences. Goblins such as the ones in Moria being quite small, most likely not ruled by a master and left to breed on their own. Orcs themselves having been carefully bred to exploit traits that made them better soldiers, size, endurance ferocity etc. The Uruk-Hai being the culmination of an intensive breeding program carried out by Saruman to develop the ultimate warrior race of Orcs.

@PlutoLee1993 2 жыл бұрын

it was always my head canon that the goblins/orcs of moria and mordor and the northern lands differed due to their environment like breeds of animals, the moria variants adapting to the small dark tunnels and the larger northern variants adapting to harsher weather and becoming more powerfully built with mordor lying somewhere in the middle.

@dionshaewishum4179 2 жыл бұрын

Would like to hear info on the different trolls. So, when somethings origin get twisted, it creates a new race. I wonder if Sméagol was a new race of creature?

@danielmcbriel1192 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. More of this! Yrch

@marcopolo2418 Жыл бұрын

Growing up watching the movies. I always thought Goblins stayed in mountains and ruled themselves for the most part. An Orcs were still commanded by Sauron. An we're not as free. That is how I always thought of it at least.

@elvirastinna9560 3 жыл бұрын

I've seen this already in H.O.T.A but i watched it again cus WHY NOT ??? What happened to the "Hota" btw ??

@magatetus 3 жыл бұрын

Cover all variations of orcs.

@Sam_T2000 Жыл бұрын

I find the creation and delineation of such creatures to be one of the few areas of the Tolkien legendarium that is somewhat lacking… the idea that life can only be created by Eru Iluvatar, or at least with his blessing, is nice on the surface… but there are far to many “evil” creatures on the world left to be explained. here are ideas on the topic: - Goblins are evolutionary offshoots of Elves, or maybe Men, that developed underground. they’re dangerous, but not exactly “evil,” and don’t serve Morgoth/Sauron outright, but so choose to side with them, when forced. - Orcs are “grown,” or more accurately corrupted, by “evil…” via taking a Man, Elf, Goblin, or even another Orc who had been slain in battle and burying them in some particular cursed ground, where they’re given a second life… so they’re sorta like sentient zombies. this would also explain their varied and grotesque appearance, and the scars and deformities many display. - Uruks are either just an evolution of the process in “growing” Orcs, or perhaps a result of breeding Orcs and hearty men… but that’s rather disturbing. - other creatures, like Trolls, are empty creations, something like Golems… and this lack true sentience and do not possess a soul. perhaps Valar are capable of creating “life” on their own, but only Eru can bestow a soul?

@targun6063 Жыл бұрын

Orcs are corrupted Men or Elves - depending on which theory you prefer. This means they have not been killed, have a soul but are just horribly corrupted. It also means that biologically, they are still Men or Elves. No blessing of Eru is needed here. Goblins don't need an explanation, since it's just the English word Tolkien used to translate Orc into. In other words: goblins and Orcs are exactly the same. Uruks are indeed an evolution within the Orcish race. I belief Sauron selectively bred the biggest and strongest Orcs in order to create these. There are also Half-orcs - which are disturbing indeed. I think they are not Uruks, since they are treated differently from the Uruks by all the characters that have encountered them. One of them was able to infiltrate Bree while Aragorn was there. Trolls being golems is actually akin to a theory Tolkien has proposed in his letters. It's why the sun turns them into stone. You are correct again. The Flame Imperishable does indeed give a soul - meaning rationality, sentience and free will - to a being. It's what happened when Aule created the Dwarves for example.

@Huskytabby 3 жыл бұрын

What-if video idea: What if Gandalf never fell at the bridge of Khazad-dum, and thus continued with the fellowship?

@loganestrada2311 3 жыл бұрын

I've always been given weird looks when I refer to the "orcs" as hobgoblins. Thanks for backing me up. You should do the more expansive video.

@viihuman4416 2 жыл бұрын

Despite everyone claiming orcs and goblins are the same, i just can't accept it. I'm sure in the books they probably were but in the movies there was a clear and defined difference in the hobbit and in the mines of moria (although they were called orcs and goblins interchangeably). seeing those moist green skinned creatures running up and down walls wasn't very orcish at all, and there armor was so unique.

@kampradooka5024 2 жыл бұрын

while i know that orcs and goblins are technically the same thing (goblin being the hobbitese word for orc), i always justified it to myself that goblins were Melkor's first generation of beings and much more beastial, and after the first age slowly spread down from the north (or fled) and ended up populating the misty mountains and the surrounding ranges. Whereas the orcs were the second generation, more defined and complete, being much smarter and having their own culture, still actually worshiping the dark lord and for the most part stayed under his control. This may be influenced from watching the movies as a kid but i still like to think of the 2 as separate, and while i dont have my books on hand to quote, i believe i read in the Silmarilion or the appendices that Melkor after the first age took the time to perfect his forces. I may be wrong here but it makes the whole thing make more sense to me

@kampradooka5024 2 жыл бұрын

btw would love to see a video that covers the difference between Olog Hai and Trolls

@johnwulff1876 2 жыл бұрын

Please do. The more you know about your enemy (Orcs) the better in defeating same.

@jasonsterlingentertainment478 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought the term Hobgoblin just referenced any significantly larger or superior orc/goblin.

@tuomaspolla3814 2 жыл бұрын

I like to think Orcs, Goblins and Uruk-Hai as a three separative breed of the one same race: The Orcs are the supreme breed, Uruk-Hai are the upgrade to increase their power and reduce their weaknesses, while Goblins are the weakest of the three breeds and actually a demonstration of the Orcs sad future.

@sergiomelendez285 3 жыл бұрын

"Orc" and "goblin" are interchangeable terms used for the entire race. "Orc" is from the language of the Rohirrim while "goblin" is the closest English equivalent. In a literal sense, "uruk" and "uruk-hai" also just mean "orc" and "orc-folk" in the Black Speech, but these terms are used to mean something like "true orcs", i.e. the especially large and fearsome breeds from Mordor and Isengard.

@t.tshankle427 3 жыл бұрын

In my experience in Tolkien it always seemed like goblins were just some form of lesser orc or smaller orc, but that may be more due to the movies and games. I suppose it still somewhat fits?

@markforster6457 2 жыл бұрын

Recall that at the end of The Hobbit we are told that in the days of Beorn “the last goblins were hunted from the Misty Mountains”.

@t.tshankle427 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point, however operating under the assumption that they are the same as orcs would mean that eventually they did come back. An example being those which inhabited Moria. Honestly it’d be an interesting literary study

@zealotfree501 3 жыл бұрын

What's the song used in the video?

@Thermonnuclear 3 жыл бұрын

Goblins are slightly different, they can see better in the dark and are slightly shorter I believe

@hariprasadsubramaniam6397 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would like the other variants to be covered.

@ethinwhite3454 Жыл бұрын

Ive always thought of them as dark mirrors of the other races.

@synystersalazar92 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see that ( question of the day )

@chi3fmarz 3 жыл бұрын

Yes more orc content!

@sgtskysyndrome 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for being behind the curve on this, but these were the guys who used to be "History of Middle Earth," correct? I was looking for that channel the other day and couldn't find it. It took me a while to track this back down. I didn't even realize something had happened.