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A lot of people don't seem to understand the insanely long lines of sight you can have in an urban environment. Having the magnification to see a target that might be 400+ yards away isn't that crazy of a thought. The street I live on that I can see the end to is 300 yards long.

A decade after Nutnfancy crushed it; size and weight constraints (SAWC) along with firepower vs mobility.

I carried a M16 A1 through Basic and an M60 A1 through the rest of my service, then include the 1911A1 and 3 loaded mags on top of that load that all machine gunners carried as a PDW during that era. At the end of a 12 mile road march even with an assault sling that was a heavy load. I would have loved to have had a 10 pound rifle .

Whenever I see one of these kinds of videos I'm always reminded of the famous anecdote about Chesty Puller, when a journalist complained to him about the BAR and whether it was fair to expect an average person to be able to handle one. His response was that the issue never came up with him since anybody who couldn't handle a BAR didn't have any business being in the Marine Corps.

Balance makes a huge difference and I think it will be one of the final things to optimize with the goal of getting as much weight away from the muzzle as possible.

Ran a 14lb HK416 overseas. It sucked. And a lot of my colleagues had heavier setups. They had heavier stocks, optics, suppressors(KAC NT4 is heavy), and rails. We weren’t doing long patrols, so it didn’t really matter, but you still feel it.

This is my exact GPR setup currently Kp-15 lower 1.7lbs Aero upper 8.4 oz BA Hanson 14.5 .625gb 21oz Bcm mcmr 13 10.5oz Bcg 11.5oz Airborne charging handle 1.5oz Rearden RC2 flash hider 2.5oz Midwest canted irons 4oz Pa slx 1-6 18oz Aero ultralight mount 3.4oz Mod light in Arisaka inline mount 6oz Witt machine mod 1 supressor 14oz Bcm fore grip 2oz Magpul ms3 slight 8oz Total weight 138oz / 8.63lbs No NV because poor but as a peq15 at 8oz/.5lb and still under 10lbs for all the goodies.

13.7-14.5 with either an ACOG/red dot combo or an LPVO/red dot combo. Add a suppressor, white light, or LAM as needed. Incredibly capable setup especially with 77 grain ammo. Sounds like you already found that out though...

I think balance plays a huge part as well. My 5.56 milled AK with an LVPO weighed about 9.5 pounds, but had a good balance point and pointed well. It certainly was not “light”, but it was comfortable to shoulder. Meanwhile I’ve shot some seriously unwieldy mall ninja ARs that may actually have been lighter in weight but felt horrible to shoulder and aim due to how awkward and front heavy they were. Like the one of the biggest advantages of the AR to the AK is weight saving and some people just say “aight bet” and make the most awkward, front-heavy Big Chungus video gamey meme builds they can and all I can say is “Why…?” 😂

I was a 203 gunner in Iraq...with a mounted PEQ-2, old school Surefire, and ACOG. If you handed me a 10lb rifle, I would have been grateful! I guess it's all a matter of perspective?

I'm happy with my current build that I spent over a year researching and planning out lol. 16" AR-15 with a LAM, Light, Suppressor, 1-8x LPVO, irons, and a offset dot. Only came in at 9.9lbs not super light but it's balance point is right in front of the mag well.

This is why you make weight conscious part decisions. One option may be a little better than another but usually capability costs weight. Is that 6 ounce light that much better than a 4 ounce light? Is that 9 ounce red dot really much better than a 6 ounce red dot? Do you really need those M-Lok grip panels? Do you really need that full length 15" handguard, or can you save a few ounces by going with a 13" handguard? If you do this for every enabler, or (even better) every part of the base build, then you can get a really capable carbine that handles like your buddie's brand new build that doesn't have all the fixings yet.

Can't wait for the URGI practical accuracy video!

The only time I used my white light while I was active was during daylight. Granted that was only ever force on force training, no real combat but at night we always just used our PVS14s and IR lasers. During the day when clearing MOUT towns going from the mid-day sun to trying to clear corners in darkened buildings before my eyes had a chance to adjust is when I needed a light the most.

OEF, OIF vet here. For a GP rifle. Light, sling, and optic 14.5 or 16in barrel. I was in when they issued an A2 then when we upgraded to a A4 with the ACOG, PEQ2, Light and sling (2 point not 3). Made money. Even in 2004 when everyone was issued the same. 03 to 2009 was a big jump in issued rifles.

I think if you follow the 300m, PID to 300m, a sling, sub 10 pounds is absolutely doable. 8-8.5 makes sense as a target for a magnified red dot, 14.5-16 inch barrel, mlok handguard, small grip, white light, sling. As long as you mind the oz on most of your parts, you can hit that target. I think if you go up to 18" with an lpvo that's more a DMR less a GPR, just like if you drop down to 10.5-11.5 and put a suppressor, holographic, LAM, etc that's a more specialized platform.

My Block II is about 12.1 unloaded simillar setup to jeff's Block II, Socom 14.5 barrel, EoTech Vudu 1-10, deltapoint on top, peq-15, Surefire vampire Light, B&T SF can. I must say even its 12.1 with the can it feels not so horrible. Take of the can and its nicely balanced.

"It's not like you get traumatized" Immediately describes symptom of trauma.

Seeing DEVGRU go back to slimline Noveskes with ScalarWorks mounts and T2s was pretty reassuring. Even those guys appreciate a lighter set-up when that's all the mission calls for. FWIW, in metric countries you can get 5 litre buckets of paint, which would weigh 11 lbs if one litre weighs one kilo (2.2 lbs). But paint is probably heavier per quart/litre than water...

Gotta say that I really missed Live 9-Hole Reviews Gun Talks. Hope to see more in the future. :)

My AR15 18” 416R SS 223 Wylde, Sig Tango 1-6 MSR with a Magpul sling and streamlight w/pressure switch. Magpul 30rd mag 77 grain 556AAC. It weighs 10 lbs on the nose loaded. QCB to 500/600 yards capable. It’s my version of a SPR/DMR lite. I built the rifle with the purpose of being able to cover the whole spectrum and keep it under 10.5 lbs.

my M16A4 with sling, foregrip, ACOG and RMR with 30rds of M855A1 in an aluminum mag weighs 10.5 pounds...no peq15, no light, no bayonet, nothing extra. Balances like a fine english double rifle and points well. Reloads necesitate tucking under the armpit.

Original kitted-out rifles, think: MACV SOG, and Son Tay Raid during November 1970 in Vietnam with SOF using the Singlepoint Occluded Eye Gunsight (OEG).

One crazy part of the image with the 9 different environments is that you have to consider the world within a world. If you’ve optimized for #8, you really should have optimized for #1. Also #1 contains major elements of almost all other images. That 9-hole ven diagram will make your head spin

13.9 Triarc with a Steiner 1x4, Arisaka light and a sling is how we are rolling currently. You bring up a good point about balance though. I need to switch out the stock for something heavier to even the whole thing out. Good video boys 🤙🏼

I feel like Law Folders only really work on severely overgassed guns. Any gas-checked setup I've put one on always chokes because of the added weight and drag of the spacer/adapter.

Just checked my three go to guns: 1)16in Aero M5 308 11.4lbs. 2)14.5in pinweld PSA Sabre 8.4lbs. 3)10.5 223wylde BRN-180 pistol with tail hook brace 8.2lbs. All three were weighted with full mags 30rds for 556 and 20rds for 7.62*51. All were with Optics. Lpvo on Aero. And red dot with prism on 5.56’s. These results surprised me.

This really highlights how insane the KP-15 and carbon fiber handguard combo is

My Battle Rifle is fat and happy. 11 pounds loaded with optic and light. I’ve gotta increase those numbers with a Suppressor & NV

My 13.7" GPR weighs a little over 9 pounds unloaded. It has a 1-8 PLXc and a Modlite OKW on it, no suppressor and no IR stuff. I don't think it feels heavy to carry or awkward to maneuver at all.

Please don't forget the Special Poverty Rifle project!!!

Duty set up for LE patrol: 8lb 13oz BCM 14.5, medium profile barrel T2 on Geissele 1.93 with Eotech 3x mag, Cloud Rein 3, WPS sling, irons on risers HD setup 7 lb 2 oz BCM 14.5 lightweight barrel Holosun 407 on 1.93 with Streamlight RML2, WPS sling

This may sound wild to most, but my GPR is an M1 Carbine. Naked w/ 18" barrel? 4.5lbs. Added a light, optic & sling, 6.5 lbs. Good to 300, I live in foothills & thick vegetation. Ammo is available in this rural area, so are parts. I also have 1000 rounds in reserve and can carry more of it than 5.56. 5.56 & 9mm are also the first to fly off shelves, 30 Carb has longer shelf life AND is used in both my rifle as well as my sidearm. (Fulton Armory M1, AMT Automag III)

Sling weight is better to adjust to be less than 1:1 as weight added to gun. As a load bearing weight a sling adds to weight 1:1. As the gun is handled though, at least half a sling's weight is draped over the user and not adding to weight that would make a gun less handy. Kitted weight is why I assembled my own. Parallax free optic + Magnifier + Light w/sling ends up being about 1.5-2.0 lbs lighter than shown @1:04:00. In future when I install a suppressor it will come in probably ~1lb lighter than shown without suppressors. A pencil barrel, composite hand-guard, and composite stock/plastic WWSD stocked receiver is all that's needed to cut lbs off an AR without worry of reliability. For a lot of kit there are plenty of options for quality optics and mounted devices that weigh a lot less than they used to.

I just weighed my home defense gun: 10.1 lbs loaded. That's an 11.5" bcm sbr, suppressor, big white light, troy iron sights, retro vertical grip, Eotech, extra bolt in the pistol grip

Minimum capabilities (force multipliers) are sling, NV capable red dot, streamlight tlr-vir2 (white light, IR illum and IR laser).

this conversation is also very interesting since i use an AR for deer hunting. A fixed 3x scope with a 14.5 suppressed .300 blk rifle is really nice in the woods and suburbs. With a 150 yard zero that is something that works pretty well for the forrest's of michigan

Over 10lbs is stupid, Deployed multiple times, started with minimal optimization and slowly added more assets to the point that when I got to Kabul that I realized the error and began stripping it back down…only the magnification of my optic became my main concern, along with ease of transitioning from either side of the body with a single point sling

16 inch basic m4gery with Eotech 512, 2 point sling, and Magpul mbus is my GPR . Everything I’ve deemed I need in my regular use of the carbine for home defense/camp defense where I camp which is quite remote. Only thing that I would potentially change is adding magnification if I lived in an area with more open space. However I live somewhere where I’m either in my little town of 5000 or I’m in a national/state/county forest. Different strokes for different folks I suppose!

I live in NW Montana and the 7-8k peaks within miles are formidable. I love sub 5lb. My dads 308 is 4.7lbs, I've been liking the ruger 16 in SFAR but plan on a pof rouge or a custom build in the next few years. 😅

Totally agree that people in generall have really no clue of what different setups weight. I have a .223 AK with Lpvo, offset red dot, AR-15 magwell, full length handguard, and AR15 stock. It weights 8lbs. I get people saying that's a heavy gun....

I invented a prototype Pic-rail mounted adjustable anti-gravity module for rifles that I could market for under $200. It could offset up to 47 lbs. during initial testing. I had a minor set back though when my grandson cranked on the adjustment knob and my whole test rifle floated away with my only prototype module before I could grab it. If any of your viewers finds a rifle with a strange glowing box with nuclear warning label on the Pic-rail, DON'T OPEN IT !!! Please contact me for a generous reward for returning it. Thanks All.

Honestly lots of things in metric system makes so much more sense. 1 litre of water is roughly a 1kg. 1 litre occupys a 10 cm cube. So you always know the volume with litres.

I agree on more weight being helpful on a fixed, defense rifle. I have a Mk12'ish rifle using a Daniel Defense upper with the heavy S2W barrel. The weight keeps the rifle down and minimizes lateral and recoil movement. It is so easy to get .5 to .7 MOA groups with it with little effort.

Stream started at like 3 in the morning for me but my example: My MR223A3 11'' heavy barrel (HK416A5) is 3.6 KG empty. Add a sigh, grip, light + loaded mag and you're over 4kg.

My Ranch Rifle = 9lbs w/o Mag. 18" Ruger MPR, Vortex SE 1-8 with an A2 Buttstock. My Go To AR = 7lbs w/o Mag. 16" Unbranded AR, Vortex UH-1.

Aside from ACR, Bushy also needs to bring back Carbon 15, cause piling shit on carbine is too heavy.

I run an 11.5" base for my NV rig and with can and all of the stuff needed for NV shooting brings it to almost 12#. It shoots soft and is very accurate and reliable. I'm 235# sans kit so weight isn't much of an issue. I can still jog a 9min mile in full kit so I feel good enough.

If weight is no issue... Barret M82 + 1000 rounds.

Coming from someone who owns a 551 and an sr15 the Knights is by far my favorite even though I want to like the sig more. The sig is far too heavy. If I had to take my rifle out of the house for whatever precarious situation I don’t imagine a reason why I would grab the sig. the KAC is superior just because of weight

That intro is freaking cool

I had a Ruger MPR 18" in 556. That thing was so heavy. Because it had HBAR Cold Hammer Forged barrel that felt like a 16" with a heavy LPVO on. That was without scope. After setting it for long range, I could key hole at 120 yards in same dot with budget ammo. I miss that rifle.

Had that same issue with my PSL. One shot and don't. Great cold bore rifle, good for hunting. Not much else.

When it comes to the question of weight on a rifle, there are a few things that I consider to be essential weight: optic, sling, and light. If you're shooting under night vision, then using an IR light/laser might be a necessity. Suppressors add weight too. But you have to look at how that weight enhances your effectiveness as a shooter or protector. For myself, I'm okay with an 8-10 pound rifle so long as I have an optic, light, and sling. I haven't weighed my M&P15 magpul edition yet, but it has a red dot, weapon light, vtac sling, and a bcm foregrip. I'm likely pushing 9-10 pounds. Some of this can be overcome with physical fitness (Garand Thumb: "if you're not fit you're gonna die"). Of course over time the weight will get to you, but if you're hiking around with it, it's slung to you and you're not exhausting your arms by carrying the rifle. If I add a suppressor to my rifle and it weighs over 10 pounds, so be it. I can justify the weight because of the enhanced capability. A suppressor and lpvo, along with a wml and sling, can easily push you to 10 pounds.

I sometimes wonder how many people actually have access to a hanging type hook scale to weigh their gun. My 5.56 PWS MK114, 14.5” pin and weld with a rein 3.0, magpul VFG, Scalarworks fixed front iron/ rear folding iron, cyclops 1x microprism on an ADM qd mount, + sling, weighs 9.44 lbs. my 5.56 sig spear LT 11.5” with an OWL, same bui+ optic, with a magpul handstop and sling, weighs 9.64. Both fully loaded. The piston guns weigh more, but neither feels heavy, and you can get away with a slightly higher weight when the weight isn’t super front loaded on a longer barrel. My dd5v3 16” .308 with a rein 3, Scalarworks fixed BUIs, vortex UH1, and sling weighs 11.5 lbs, but feels notably heavier than the other 2 because a lot of that weight is front loaded. It’s still totally usable, you just feel it a bit more. Also, these are all weights with fully loaded mags (30 on the 5.56’s, 20 on the 7.62 nato/.308). In my humble opinion, 9-12 lbs is more than doable, and even moreso if you have a setup where most of the weight is backloaded / around the receiver, rather than sticking out in front of you. I expected the AR10 to be 12+, but was shocked to find the 5.56 spear LT 11.5 pistol and 14.5 PWS pin and weld were 9 and change - you hear so much about 7-8lb setups. That being said, as I mentioned, the long stroke piston design of the PWS weighs a bit more than a DI, and the short stroke piston of the Sig weighs significantly more than a DI. An AR10 just weighs more anyway. But yeah, those useful attachments add up. We have a BAR in the shop I work at - 19.8lb unloaded. When you consider the avg ww2 soldier was 5’6-5’7, and 150lb … well, I understand why they were always hip firing that thing now, hahaha. 20lbs is a crazy amount of gun to be shouldering and firing accurately. 10lbs ? Much more doable than it might seem. I actually find that 6-8lb guns feel extremely light to me, and I’d like to build something with only a lightweight light and micro rifle dot, like a t2/ Romeo 4xt pro, and see if I can’t get towards that 7lb mark

My rifle weighs exactly 1.011 M16 A2's.

I’m a LEO in a semi urban area and my ideal patrol rifle setup is pretty damn near identical to my ideal civilian general purpose rifle. Standard AR15 with a 14.5 PW(for that pesky NFA), with a red dot mag combo, white light, and suppressor.

The 14,5" with a direct thread K-Silencer is ideal. Length-wise. (also lightweight) It's 18"-equivalent since the silencer is 4" and cca 0.5" of barrel screws into it. (a shorter K-silencer doesn't work well on 10/11") The ideal setup is cca *8.5lbs* - BCM Recce-14 MCMR - Rifle - InForce WMLx - flashlight - Primary Arms SLx 3x - Prism sight - Silent Steel Micro Streamer (DirectThread) - K-Silencer One can have the silencer pin/weld to the barrel, making it not an SBR. The inside of the can pulls out from the front for maintenance (the out side part which is welded to barrel is registered, the inside bits are not).

LEP laser with a 1850-yard spotlight laser that blinds people ...thats what ive been testing out (600 rounds so far) 🤷

I love that Rob saw that you went to the one thing that could cause a rift and he just blew it away. Its almost like he was preparing for it. I noticed that garbage being put on all of the weapons for decades. For military reasons you put that stuff on because you have 1 rifle for the most part. My m14ebr didnt have any NV capabilities. My 10 in m4a1 had NV capabilities because it was designed to go indoors or caves. I had to make that argument to command. 90% of the time i went inside the rifle either stayed in the vehicle or was slung and my sidearm was used. It had a white or red light 90% of the time (i bought ir myself later) the rest of the time i used a white light or red light on very low setting. No 1000 lumen lights, they are useless. A 10lb carbine is heavy. 3l of coke is 10lbs My ebr was 13lbs.... I had a CSM try to make uniform changes to my team. I told to get a combat patch or 2 and id listen. At the time i was a cw3 with 3 deployments and around 18-20 firefights under my belt. My bn cdr told me to go to admin and pick up my civ clothing authorization and relaxed grooming standards memo. The only thing i required was the ifak on the 8 oclock position.

Always love the content. Just wanted to say the Amazon link seems broken.

I've got a wwsd lower and an H&R 604 upper. Full length capability and the gun comes in shy of 6 lbs unloaded. No optics or lights but boy does the thing handle well.

I have a sharps rifle with a 34 inch and weighs 16 pounds alone. With a Malcom x 6x scope it weighs 17-17 1/2 lbs. chambered in 45-70 shooting either black powder or smokeless. Currently I use a 535gr bullet and able to get a 1.5-1.2 moa at 100 yards. Mind you it’s a single shot rifle. The rifle technically can use a picatinny rail, it has a double set trigger. First trigger is roughly 5-10lbs reason is you can adjust it. Then there is the hair trigger which takes the slack off the first trigger making it anywhere to be 1 pound to 2 pound trigger pull. The rifle was designed specifically made to shoot buffalo/bison in the late 1800s. It was one of the few rifles to also defend against native Americans. The farthest recorded shot was done by Billy Dixon shooting an Indian off a horse at around 1,300 yards with iron sights using the 50-90. Is it a battle rifle? Yes and at the same time no. It has the power to rip right through a full grown buffalo.

I think what capabilities you have factor in, like I have nods so I’m going to have some form of a peq and suppressor on any gun I have. If you don’t have nods you don’t really need a peq or suppressor and can get away with just a flashlight/lpvo

I live in area #9 my gpr is a POF rouge 5.9 naked. It’s right at 10lb 2oz with scope, sling, light, bipod and suppressor.

The mini 14 really likes a dampner on the barrel. Makes sense it would help the psl.

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Styer AUG a2 with 3 parts one a metal hammer cover , rat works metal trigger pack housing, spring connector to rear made the trigger 4lbs and felt the same as my competition glock very fast, forward rail lightweight for light, lasers and flat top optics. We replaced it all on friend class 3 AUG and it ran great making single fast and accurate and full auto close range. Bull pup hold ready all day comfortably. My AUG ran fast 5 shot cqb changing to steel 100,200,300 yards easy-going love that rifle big precision AR and AK74 14 Krebs is my favorite now but AUG was number one.

For a basic daytime fighting rifle with a red dot: 11.5" to 14.5" barrel of your choice (I use criterion core but BCM lightweight profiles are solid for saving extra ounces) with an ESD sling, ALG Forged aluminum sling swivels, 18350 short body weapon light (rechargeable batteries) + ds00 tail cap (redundancy incase your wire or switch fails) & Unity hotbutton. For nighttime you might be limited to cr123's and a Surefire vampire light head, but you'd add an IR laser aiming device. Otherwise same setup. I prefer steel barrel nuts, a steel gas block and a stainless gas tube for a fighting rifle for consistent accuracy when hot/ keeping a tight gas seal due to similar thermal expansion properties with a steel barrel. So that is definitely where I don't like to sacrifice weight personally. Also tend to stick with BCM bolt carrier groups. I'll run aimpoint t2 + UNITY mount to have a ~6oz optic setup. The ALG sling swivels save a couple ounces as well. And Geissele SSA triggers, which are surprisingly light compared to mil spec but they use full power springs for reliable primer strikes.

No such thing is too heavy. Depending on your pattern of power armor.

I get as close or under to 9lbs with optic, suppressor, loaded 30 round mag, backup sights, and light that I can get.

All depends on what you're using it for. Have the right took for the right job.

I’m just a regular guy but my general purpose carbine is a 16” with a 1-6x scope scout 300 light ms3 sling that weighs 7.8lbs loaded with 29rds of 75gn ammo. That’s about as heavy as I’m willing to go with a gpr and honestly prefer a little lighter. My 13.9” with a 2x primary arms prism x300 light cheap 2pt sling weighs 6.5lbs loaded with 29rds of 62gn. Similar setup but 14.5” and a 3x vortex weighs 7.2lbs loaded with 75gn ammo. All with pmags. But even my dmr which is a 16” 6.5 Grendel 4-14x primary arms, ms3 sling, 600 series light, magpul bipod, 15rd mag loaded with 90gn weighs 9.2lbs. Can get it under 9lbs dropping the bipod which is 10.4oz on my scale. Also it’s a heavy profile ballistic advantage barrel. Really thinking about trying out the faxon 16” gunner or lightweight barrel. If I can get the same accuracy from the lighter faxon barrel I can save another 6-7oz swapping barrels. My old dmr was an 18” 6.5 Grendel with the 18” faxon gunner profile barrel. That gun weighed just over 10lbs but had a 3-18x primary arms scopes that was 25oz without the mount. Really love that scope and that barrel is stupid accurate I just wanted to shorten it up a little and went with the lighter 4-14x primary arms scope. I still have the 18” upper with the 3-18x but it mostly sits in the safe and the 16” with 4-14x stays on my dmr lower. But I think for any rifle used for 0-600yds should weigh less than 10lbs fully loaded mag, optic, sling and flashlight and maybe an optional bipod depending on the situation. My bipod is qd and the majority of the time stays in my backpack and not on the rifle due to weight. All the rifles have a 2pt sling. And I’d say a 0-300yd rifle should be around 8lbs fully loaded with optic, light and sling. And a cqb 0-100yd rifle fully loaded mag, optic, light and sling would weigh around 7lbs in my opinion. But obviously it’s all up to the guy packing it. I have buddies that have no problem with their general purpose rifle weighing 10+lbs. I’d even say a long range (sniper) setup capable of 1000yds or more should still be in that 12lb range loaded with mag, sling, variable power optic, bipod and possibly a light

I’ve noticed some people deployed to Afghanistan and mostly stayed on base where they would have engagements from distance only so they think Afghanistan is a long distance engagement area. Where they were on a base and that’s why. When in my experience along with hundreds of others we saw almost half of not more than half our engagements were CQB and working in that 100-25 meter battle space clearing compounds and villages.

My car15 weighs 6lb 3oz with an acog on the carry handle, 7lb 8oz with an aimpont pro, streamlight flashlight, and a loaded 20 round magazine. Barrel profile barrel profile barrel profile.

Here's what I'd argue. The necessary capabilities first and foremost. Then if you can save weight by using other non- proprietary equipment and without losing reliability or durability. If it breaks you'll need to fix it or find a replacement part. If it doesn't run reliably, why carry the weight in the first place. And if it weighs heavier, then it'll make anything else feel light. I dry fire with a 20" ar 10. Makes my 15s feel extremely light in comparison. Doesn't matter the configuration. Training also includes strength and endurance, not just shooting drills.

A lightweight handguard and a medium to pencil profile ar15 with constant taper style of barrel thats not front heavy like a Hanson etc makes the AR such well balanced those two components can make just about any of these builds shine.

I love your videos and I'm even a subscriber to the app. But clipping out the intro music to livestream uploads sure would make viewing them easier on re watch

Lesser weight is always preferable, unless you haven't served in the military and actually had to hump all that gear.

My Rifle has an RC2, Vcog SCO and a FL5 with a 16" barrel all in a lightweight 10lbs loaded 😂

M1 Garand here.

What weighs 10lbs? Breakfast: a gallon of milk, two boxes of cereal, and a 1/2 gallon of orange juice.

My 11.5 w/ sling, cloud rein, aimpoint + magnifier, silencer, and law folder is just under 11lbs.

My System is basically you need to build over time a few rifles/pistols. Start with a GPR this should be a from 13.7 up to a 16 inch barrel rifle with a weaponlight and magnified optic. Optic should be a red dot/holographic sight with a magnifier or a LPVO with possibly a red dot or a Prism sight that has magnification with a red dot. Other advice with this on a LPVO if it second focal plane I would have a red dot if you need a clearer picture. If its first focal plane 1-4 or 1-6 you maybe able to skip on a red dot but if it 1-8 or 1-10 I would absolutely us a red dot now the best 1-10 for mw is the EOTech VUDU 1-10x28mm is amazing for a 1-10 without a red dot for me. However, I would say go with a red dot still. With the first rifle, if say you went say 14.5 with the weaponlight and an EOTech EXPS3-4 holographic sight with a G45 5x magnifier which I suggest for max flexibility. You should make a second GPR this I suggest a more precise set up. This rifle would be like a 16 in with a weaponlight and a LPVO 1-8 or 1-10 LPVO for me I like the Nightforce ATACR 1-8x24mm and the EOTech VUDU 1-10x28mm this rifle I would look at adding a lightweight bipod that Magpul makes. This rifle isn't a SPR it just a more precise and long range rifle. Also GPR should be a government/standard like Geissele or lightweight barrel. Remember the thinner the barrel the quicker it will heat up but also cool down. I prefer a lighterweight barrel for a few reasons but I'm not looking to stay in place and end up surrounded its shoot move shoot move. This maximizes you ability to create space and cool down your barrel. If you are applying more distance principles then it makes more sense to go more SPR type. A fighting rifle I love Geissele's barrel on the Super Duty and URG-I Upper. But the BCM lightweight barrel profile is my favorite on a GPR. Once you have 2 GPRs you can look at setting up a CQC SBR/Pistol. This can be broke into 5.5-10 inch .300 AAC/BLK and 10.3-12.5 5.56x45mm/.223 Rem guns. I think this best to go with like a 5.56x45mm/.223 Rem. You are still going to be buying/setting up more guns and ammo compatibility is best for most people with having bills, kids, vehicle, and a home to keep up. Your wife may want a nice vacation yearly. So I'm blessed to have income to buy whatever I want as long as it's legal. This helps but I am asked how to setup a rifle far too much. So long story short I would say 10.3/10.5 if you have a MK18 fix that you need to hit go for it. The 11.5 is better and you can be very flexible. I can run a Elcan SpecterDR 1-4x32 or a Trijicon ACOG TA110 3.5 with a RMR Type 2 1MOA red dot but you could go with an Aimpoint T2 or say a EOTech EXPS3-2 with G43 magnifier 3x and have a gun that is a home defense gun and truck gun. Now you have 3 solid rifles and you can stop here. However you can keep going like no setup a SPR or 7.62x51mm version like a DMR not that the term matters, but again most people will not have ton of excess funds. For ammo I suggest going with a heavy stainless steel barrel with a 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist in a 5.56x45mm gun and these guns will be expensive so you may want a EDC 300BLK pistol/SBR before you buy or build or setup a new rifle. I would then start buying things you may want besides just guns. Like a chest rig, or a plate carrier with plates or ballistic/bump helmet with NODs or thermal or suppressors. Im not saying everyone run out and buy L3 Harris GPNVG18 mounted a Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic SL helmet and 3M Peltor headset and Baofeng AR-152 comms. That doesn't include building a basic prepper setup. With gas mask filters for long-term water supply, some medical supplies plus medicine, learning how to grow sustainable food or have the ability to raise farm animals for food and other resources. Like eggs, beef, chicken, pork, and hides. Then you will want some medical training if you don't have any. I suggest thinking everything out specifically on a pinned weld 13.7 or 14.5 in rifle. It isnt going to be easy to just change everything once it pinned and welded. Also on your guns keep commonality between parts you use. This allows for flexibility in parts breakage. Same with a pistol and I would use on my rifle the same red dot if I run one on my pistol. On pistols cool if you buy a pistol that say fits you perfect. You should look at the area around you what the police use and find that pistol or a pistol compatible with it. Like a say you like S&W M&P9 2.0 Compact but the police in your area and all the surrounding counties are using Glock 45 or 17 or 47. I would buy 1 of them or a 19 possibly a 23 with a 9mm conversion barrel and have it as well. My suggestion is always a IWI Zion Z-15 with a 16 inch barrel. The optic is a Primary Arms GLx 1-6x24mm FFP ACSS Griffin/Raptor on a Reptilia AUS 30mm mount with a Reptilia ROF90 MRDS piggyback for a Holosun HE509RD ACSS Vulcan reticle and a set of Magpul MBUS Pro offset 45-degree backup sights. The light is a Streamlight ProTac Rail Mount Long Gun weaponlight and pressure pad with mount. Sling Magpul MS4 sling with a MLOK QD mount any brand for sling for the rail. Then a LaRue Tactical MBT-2S trigger and then if you decide you was a specific suppressor you can switch out to which ever muzzle device you want. You will be around 10lbs and great gun for the money. Plus 15 Pmags and Bulk ammo with 1000+ rounds would be around $3691 plus tax and fees.

my galil ace gen 1 16 inch 5.56 R&L conversion is at about 10.4 pounds unloaded with optic, foregrip, laser/light combo fits in pretty good then with the 16 inch ar's.

Lite carry easier Heavy shoots better 🎉🎉🎉 find your balance ✨️ based on your capabilities!

also i feel like the short 10.3 SBRs with a red dot are basically subgun replacements then guns you use as rifles or carbines

About 11.5#, depending on balance. Any lighter than that and it’s hard to watch your hits from an AR-10. Handling starts to get obnoxious any heavier.

do a reverse speedrun. start at the furthest cold bore and bring it in. for science.

Re: if no nods why not poly handguard? I'm running that exact setup right now. Crazy thing is, there are aluminum mlock rails that are actually lighter than the Magpul handguards.

For me its a 16in with a red dot and magnifer. Short enough to clear rooms, enough gun to reach out to 500yds with my abilities

"Too heavy" is subjective and varies from person to person.

Ah the old NFP fire power vs mobility and size & weight constraints

Electric tape does wonders in a pinch. We taped lights to our handguards back in 03-05 Iraq. There were no mounts available to us or fielded at that point.

Weight distribution matters more. I was a MSO at Malmstrom and had m4 acog peq 240 and 203. 9lbs is standard for all my rifles now

No upper with a malfunction assist was made with weight in mind.

I think the tactical community as a whole really focuses too much on weight. I think in recent years I’ve seen an abuse of the phrase “ounces=pounds=pain”. Not to say it doesn’t have any truth to it, but I always interpreted it to mean “don’t pack a rain coat when going to the desert in the summer” or “don’t pack a stack of comic books just in case you have downtime” Not, “how many ounces is my charging handle?” It especially kills me when someone says something like the Sig 550 series or SCAR-L is “too heavy” simply because it’s heavier than an M4. The M4 is perhaps the lightest service rifle ever devised, of course anything compared to it is going to be heavy. I don’t think a weight difference between an M4 vs an AK is going to be the difference that makes or breaks strategy. At the end of the day it’s mainly a comfort based decision only tangentially related to combat efficacy.

Oh, QD is your friend. I have 1 bipod, its a magpu with an ARMS17 mount. Is it heavy? Yes, but its only there when I need it. My magnifier is QD. If one feels like a flash light isnt nessesary at least have one on a QD mount and keep it on you, that way you can save weight and also have a white light for when you need it _if_ you are adamant that you think you dont need it.

2:20:22 Henry just had to do it to us huh lolol