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The Guitar Hero / Rock Band era was a special time.

i can tell you what happened finn, all the metalcore scene kids became soundcloud rappers

First Memphis May Fire EP (2007) is southern metalcore and it’s legit. Well written/catchy songs, heavy breakdowns, and tons of nasty southern riffs that groove super hard. I was a big pop-punk fan throughout the 2000’s, but this was probably the most influential EP for me in opening the door to metalcore (which remains one of my favorite genres to this day)

Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit held my hand and introduced me to Metalcore and Hardcore.

Architects, while she sleeps, Parkway Drive, Northlane and the entire Djent offspring that came from metalcore with bands like novelists, tesseract are all killing it in the uk, Europe and Australia

I personally think Skrillex and the EDM scene killed metalcore. So many of the crew and scene kids I grew up with ended up in that scene. Now the new wave of underground hiphop has taken the reigns.

The southern influenced metalcore is NASCORE

"MTV I PLEAD YOU, PLEASE COME BACK TO YOUR ROOTS. PLAY MUSIC" "Security, get this lunatic out of here."

There's a new good wave of metalcore: Polaris, Currents, Our Hollow, Our Home, Crystal Lake, Loathe. (without forgetting the unforgettable Architects, Parkway Drive, While She Sleeps, Wage War, Northlane, Bury Tomorrow...) So yeah thank you Australia and thank you UK haha.

as a metalhead, I take objection to your claim that if you fell down in the pit at a metal show they would more likely stomp on your head rather than help you up. Having come up in the Florida death metal scene and going to countless shows, that is simply not true. Also, dudes in a metal pit will just push each other around, not do karate chops and kicks in the air and try to hurt people.

Metalcore is far far from dead. Huge bands still cranking it out.

As I Lay Dying, Parkway Drive, and August Burns Red are my top 3 favorite straight-ahead metalcore bands. I do have to say though that early Asking Alexandria, BMTH, Blessthefall, etc are quite high up there as well.

This was like a documentry of my childhood and teens years. The nostalgia man , great video

This is such a fun video for me. DTB was started in 2009 and our roots and popularity started with interviewing a lot of metalcore bands, particularly ones that broke up just as fast as they gained their audience. Bands like Texas In July, Attack Attack, The Color Morale, etc. Video suggestion: I think it'd be cool for you to go in-depth on a few of the many scenes mentioned in this video. Particularly the newest wave of bands would br an interesting video for me personally

Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, and Atreyu are what made me fall in love with Metalcore

I love metalcore, im so sad that it isnt the “in” thing anymore :(

All metalcore did was move to Britain and Australia

*Attack Attack! Have left the chat*

"Southerncore" was a thing because Southern Rock has a groove. Same reason the best sludge comes from the south

Who said anything about 'former' crabcore fans? As far as I'm concerned, it's still 2009!

"I love metalcore." I've never heard anything more relatable

I came in on the “Big 4” era. But to me it was As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, and Shadows Fall. It took a dip for me when ATR released Overcome and Tim Lambesis got convicted.

The UK, Europe and Australia are having a shift in metalcore with bands like Northlane, Polaris, Void of Vision among others. Architects are bigger than ever in the scene over here. Asia has brought their fair share of bands as well as America with this newer sound combining clean and rough vocals with electronic tones and sort of a hypebeast style. I've been to a lot of shows in London where these bands play and they are pretty cheap and always sell out and kids are always wearing their merch. I think metalcore might resurface to almost mainstream but something different needs to happen because a lot of these bands do sound similar but they're all extremely talented and you can tell they grew up on like august burns red, parkway drive, asking Alexandria etc. I also think the trap death mumble rap is having a massive effect on bringing new kids into the genre.

I'm actually impressed how mainstream metalcore was in the 2000's.

There are so many videos out there saying metalcore is terrible, not hard enough, doesn't deserve to have "metal" in its name and whatever It's really cool to see the opposite of that for once

People getting metalcore confused with screamo is what killed metalcore.

Finn! I just downloaded Spotify for the first time so that I can listen to your playlists. Thank you thank you for these quick but thoughtful history lessons on the genres of music that I’ve fallen in love with! I’m delighted that I only recognized two songs from this one; so much “new” stuff to go listen to!!

Metalcore will always be my favorite genre in any scene. Thanks to bands like A Day To Remember, Of Mice & Men, Earlier Escape The Fate, Earlier Falling In Reverse, and my all time number 1 band, Motionless In White. Metalcore will always be the best

"Metalcore was the perfect next step for a kid who liked [...] nu-metal but wanted something a little bit less corny." Yep, that's me

Every Time I Die was and still is a group of amazing musicians who can still shred.

I’m a bit of a hardcore/metalcore aficionado myself, having been very heavily involved in the hardcore scene during the “golden age” as described in the vid (which is super ironic because I was just talking to my current band about the “golden age” & stumbled on this channel while looking for good videos to support my point.) First off I want to say: hell yeah to @The Punk Rock MBA for having such AWESOME & accurate videos describing the heyday of hardcore & heavy music in general, everything I love & lived my life around at the time (and still do) I talk about this time period all the time, & I love yuor videos covering it especially since MySpace lost everything from then & they were the main platform for posting songs & finding shows at the time. Years of memories, all the BEST years, simply deleted. So now I have no “portfolio” to show my new band what I’m talking about, so these are seriously great. Bravo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Now to try not to go too deep into the topic (especially because I’m posting from not my own profile lol) all I want to say is, I’d love to see a video about where metalcore & progressive metal has led to today; as in modern djent (after the burial, born of Osiris, within the ruins[kinda]) & also what I’ve heard referred to as “neo classical metal” like Vitalism(AWESOME) & other instrumentalists like Modern Day Babylon, Divinex, Berried Alive, etc. AND (separating this because it’s sooo important) The rise of 7 string & 8 string guitar music & 5 string bass, like every single band I just mentioned uses & also bands like Vildhjarta & of course, the originals(kinda), Meshuggah. As a person who did nothing but music, was going to go to college for it (business & recording) & already taken a few classes in both those, music theory, & stage production/set up already; but then was convinced to “get a real job” instead (WORST decision I ever made) so was out of it for awhile (during the time you reference metalcore “dying”) then now coming back to every band that’s still heavy now being much heavier & using extended scales, just like you said it kind of died when bands went light, the ones that survived & are still doing great to this day all went much heavier. (Like when suicide silence went from a sorta-popular grind band to being a SUPER heavy downtuned metal-ass band) I would seriously love to see a video highlighting all that I just mentioned. Where it is & where it’s set to go because like you said it’s like a reset has been hit, & we’re back to an exciting time. I feel like I’m living it all over again lol but yeah love your content, please make that vid though!!!

I also love a day to remember. I'm wonderful if you consider avenged sevenfold and bullet for my Valentine as metalcore bands

We were all "posers" at one time.

August burns red and as i lay dying will always hold a special place in my heart.

Holy shit Knocked Loose and Code Orange really taking me back to the golden years of metalcore (pre-scene) god damn

i used to love metalcore so much and there’s very few metalcore bands i still enjoy. miss may i is probably still the one metalcore band i haven’t got tired of. i grown out of most of those “open chug breakdowns” but i appreciate it being part of my childhood

That’s crazy man . The scene kid picture you posted there was me .... 🤓 I love metal core although I haven’t listened to it in years

Crystal Lake, Architects, Currents, Bad Omens say hello

Finn, or anyone else can you PLEASE tell me what band is in the music video that starts at 12:47?

Your videos are awesome and super informative and mostly on point. Love them. Subscribed. Keep it up.

Its pretty simple, the generation enjoyed those scene bands as teens and then grew up. The subject matter that the majority of those bands talked about was very teenie bopper and isn’t relatable when you get older. I feel like that “scene” is still around, it’s just in form of those sad boy hip hop artists.

Metalcore peaked with Second and Sebring. Beautifully written song. And Would You Still Be There IS a banger for sure

That was one if not the most interesting video on this platform. Thank you! I love Metalcore, the concerts, the atmosphere, just everything is perfect. And there are new bands which sound amazing Crystal lake or LANDMVRKS for example. Keep it up! 🤘🏻

I just wanted to thank you for this video. I actually was able to use this video for my paper in my history of rock class.

_Djent-io killed the metalcorestar_ _Djent-io killed the metalcorestar_

I love that there are still people that love metalcore. My tastes have changed since I left school, but metalcore still has a huge place in my heart and it's nice to see people such as yourself share that enthusiasm

WHAT THE SONG PLAYED IN THE BACKGROUND??? 12:40 PLZZZ

What were the specific songs used in the background of the video? Does anyone know?

Oceans Ate Alaska is the shit

ehm....As I lay Dying, Unearth, Killswitch etc. still goin' strong to this day

After this vid, I listened through some of the older metalcore (as someone who comes from more of a mall emo background, the 08-14 era was what got me into the genre). Rly enjoy August Burns Red (probably one of my top 3 in the genre), but couldn't get into the 90s stuff (too rough for my taste). One metalcore band I wish got more attention is Ice Nine Kills, they're absolutely killing it with their past two albums.

I am once again asking for your help in telling me what is the band that is playing in the music video that starts at 12:47?

Metalcore... Metalcore never dies, it's just takes a break

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5:59 rip that vocalist lmao

Thank you Trivium for introducing me to them. I’ll say Parkway Drive and Trivium are my favs.

I'm only 20, so I'm definitely in the 2010s era of metalcore. But my love of metalcore hasn't died off like some of my friends have. I went to Atreyu's In Our Wake Tour in December, more to see Ice Nine Kills and Memphis May Fire but you get what I'm saying. I live for going to shows. It's the only way to properly connect with the music in my opinion. I definitely noticed popularity drop off since I got into metalcore back in 2013. But yea there very much was a boyband aesthetic there. I printed out pictures of bands and taped them to my locker freshman year and was all "Austin Carlisle or die". Big cringe. But I've grown and accepted the genre at it's roots. And I've definitely branched out my music taste as well.

I'm from Algéria (Africa), 27 yo, and i started Metalcore with As I Lay Dying, Trivium, Avenged Sevenfold, All that Remains and Killswitch Engage, so just before the Scene Era started. But therefore, i really loved Asking Alexandria's first album and that's what got me into the Scene Era which I followed through it's entire lifetime with all that bunch of bands coming out everyday at those times. But after seeing each band starting to make some boring radio rock one after another, i kind of kept stuck in 2010 in my head and only listened to all what's been done before that, except for some bands. That's why if you ask me what does represent Metalcore today, i would say this: Parkway Drive, August Burns Red, and most of all: BREAKDOWN OF SANITY. Those never disappoint. And meanwhile, it's been sometime that i came back to traditional Metal genres that got me into this universe at first: Melodic or Technical Death, Power Metal, Symphonic Black, and some others...

I appreciate the playlists!! I liked them and will be checking them out!! I know I'm a bit late to this party, but hey, this is some great content. Will done Finn.

Whats the song at 0:57 I recognise it from ages ago but dont remember the name

I would say Trivium and Bullet For My Valentine made me like the Metalcore-sound. I guess it was around 2006-2007. And i still love it to this day. And it's not dead. But what happened is the same that happened to all the 80's hair metal bands, they were too many playing exactly the same things, and people couldn't even tell the difference between the bands anymore because they sounded to similar to each other. There were all these new bands coming out all the time, releasing one album, and then faded away, like it did to hair metal in the end of the 80's/beginning of 90's. The bands that still live on are bands like Parkway Drive, August Burns Red, Architects to name a few.

i really loved of mice and men, but since restoring force and austin left, it’s not the same, kinda makes me sad. now silent planet is my fave, i freaking love them

Hey thanks for the video and thanks for mentoning acme :D! I'm from Germany and your video made me go directly to my cd shelf and putting acme in :)...dindt listening to them for a while :)

I grew up listening to this genre! Interesting fact at the time TDWP was really big I was involved in the west coast bboying scene ( breakdancing ) and I would practice with a bunch of kids that would only do powermoves to metalcore it was super fun! Great video btw.

"And of course: Europe." Me: "IT'S THE FIINAALLL COOUUNTDOOWWNN!!"

Crabcore kid right here! Was introduced into the genre with Attack Attack and Abandon All Ships. The rest was history.

The pipeline of scene metalcore kids to EDM is wild

Metalcore was reborn today as Shaped By Fire album by As I Lay Dying.

You should do a whole video on Sumerian-core

I grew up in "the scene" 2006-2010. I think your 100% correct about why people left. I never was about the drama. I always stuck with bands like atreyu, miss may I, As I Lay Dying etc,. And I think most of the scene revolved around drama, and being sad all the time. The audience outgrew the bands and that's mainly why I moved on.

I think your breakdown is pretty spot on. I got into metal through bands like Fear Factory, Pantera, Slayer, and Slipknot. I wasn't finding bands like them that I liked later on so I checked out bands like Bleeding Through, It Dies Today, Hatebreed, Terror, Throwdown, and of course Killswitch. I still listen to all of these bands today, I love the genre. The Asking Alexandria, Bring Me The Horizon stuff I just couldn't get into. Too many bands sound exactly like them. The only newish band (Yes I know they've been around a while now) I like in the genre is Bury Tomorrow.

Can somebody please tell me what's the background music playing during the whole video?

Nothing wrong with Dio, man. He was one of the best.

Thought I’d share my defense of BMTH here. Amo, to fans of metalcore, probably isn’t very appealing, but it’s a very well produced album and doesn’t really fit into any genre. Wonderful Life is still fairly heavy rock whereas Nihilist Blues is more trance-wave. BMTH hasn’t been metalcore since There is a Hell, but their music has always been good within the album-specific niche. I may be biased, because CYB doesn’t work for me (although that might be the lower quality production and not the heaviness) but everything from Suicide Season - That’s The Spirit has been fantastic, and Amo is just different, not any worse.

9:42 when you said "At the Gates" with breakdowns I immedeately thought of As Blood Runs Black

Around 2014 is when I moved to Deathcore! The last 5 years have been huge for Deathcore, especially their studio quality and technicality. But I think it'll die out soon and undergo rebirth like Metalcore. Great video! Thanks

Metalcore was the replacement for a lot of the pop punk, emo and skate punk that was popular from the late 80s to the mid 2000s. Metalcore was then replaced by indie pop rock (example: imagine dragons, bastille,foster the people, X ambassadors, twenty one pilots) , and then that was replaced by emo rap (lil uzi vert, post malone, lil peep, juice wrld, Trippie redd, lil tracy, lil xan) , which is currently being replaced by trap metal (ghostemane, kamiyada, zillakami, cameronazi, scarlxrd, pouya, fat nick, tekken+).

And now there is also the "Djent"-Metalcore wave with band like Architects, Northlane, Novelist, Currents, Erra...

I’ve seen so many things saying “metal ore is shit” and only mention Asking Alexandria, Black Veil Brides, and Of Mice And Men (which pisses me off tremendously) so I was ready to get defensive after the first minute of this video but I’m glad I watched all the way through because the metalcore scene right now is so good and there is so much good music coming out and I’m pleased you pointed that out.

I remember the vibe of my local metalcore scene around 2001 as really positive and as a support system for energetic but overwhelmed kids and young adults. There was a genuineness in people at shows, and we cared a lot about coping with societal or personal demons. Soon, however, as more were drawn into the scene, an era of defensiveness built up as witch hunts for "posers" turned a positive environment into a negative hatefest. To complicate matters, many newcomers to the scene began to drive focus hard into narcissism, where girls, particularly, on the scene treated it like a social heirarchy to dominate as though it were tryouts for a cheerleading squad in high school. This intent dragged the very same disgusting elements of the normal world that we wanted to escape into our sanctuary. Soon, as these two phenomena occurred simultaneously, lyrics to songs from my favorite bands began to attack the destruction occurring. Ironically, the lyrical attacks increased paranoia in shows where a wall of gatekeepers would stare bullets into people arriving for shows who the gatekeepers did not recognize or chose to hate in a prejudiced manner for other unknown reasons. The cycle continued until the gatekeepers remaining were, themselves, being the very thing we all originally built the scene to overcome. Uniform clothing style, hair, speech patterns, and even mannerisms among gatekeepers were used to promote their egotistical status, as they bullied anyone choosing not to conform. The entire scene became the very hell we needed to escape. It was the real world on steroids. By comparison, high school politics and societal problems were a fresh walk in the park. This is what killed the scene. Love became fear, and fear became the scene.

Great video man, you were on point with everything! Got into the genre with Asking Alexandria type bands in me teenage years and I defiantly saw the rise and fall of that era. The new radio rock sound that all those bands eventually starting making really put me off and made me explore other genres. It was awesome that you mentioned The Fall of Troy because it was that band that really changed the music i'm into now. I love Prog Rock now (my favorite genre) but I still like those metal core albums that I jammed so much in high school. Although I do believe a handful of those metal core bands have aged well and still put out great material.

i got into metal core in the mid 2000’s with bands like under oath and the devil wears prada. great memories, super fun shows

When you mentioned The Ghost Inside I remembered the first time I heard "White Light", seriously changed me. That and ADTR's Common Courtesy getting me through my first breakup.

I think the things that happened to Austin played into Of Mice And Men changing their sound, especially seeing where he’s at now. Which is totally a good thing. Love your vids

Love that ADTR is in your top 5

Totally agree about Metalcore having the potential to rise again. I live in Ocala, and I remember Wage War (at the time Empires) circa 2013 playing local shows at churches and stuff already pulling good crowds and thought to myself "Damn these guys are going to blow up". They did, and even though their 2nd album has that more mass audience appeal, still manages to stay metal. They just played a show a couple weeks back at a dingy bar that has nostalgia within the scene and oversold the show haha. What's really cool is that the vibe there was awesome, my band was lucky enough to be on the bill, and there was love from the crowd and the 2 major acts towards us the openers that never seems to happen at shows anymore.

What’s up, Fin! I’m a 90s RI scene hardcore old schooler. I love what you do and when I watch some of these videos it brings me back through time. I moved to Vermont during the 2008 era and met some new friends and joined that scene. Along the way I’v seen many changes happen and a lot of good bands come and go. Hell, Kilgore made it out of RI but the road was tough for them. I live in FL now but there is no scene where I live because I bought a house in retirementville. I have to drive an hour and a half to Tampa but hey, I can’t really complain about that scene. I’m still new to it and getting to know the bands but people should always be looking and listening for something new and be welcoming of it. A lot of the people I grew up with don’t want to move out of the big four of 90s thrash and think all the new music sucks and that’s a terrible attitude to have if you want to see your scene stay relevant. I’m glad you do this channel and help open up the minds and ears of people in the scene and really try to curate a positive vibe. Thanks for that and keep up the good work. -Joe

what's the song at that plays at 10:18?

Attack Attaaack, Where You Atttt!?!?

I'm from Indonesia but I grew up with the early 2000 metalcore band such as Killswitch engage, lamb of god, chimaira, god forbid, as i lay dying, unearth, shadows fall, etc.. Those bands made me like heavy music more.. Sad to know that few of them was disbanded..

what is the name of the first song? at 00:47

I remember around 2014 or so I started to drift away from metalcore for just the reasons that you said. It felt like the scene was collapsing under its own weight and that a lot of bands had hit their ceiling with that they could do with the style. I also feel like a lot of newer bands at that time like Ghost and Deafheaven served as a bit of a counterpoint to that scene as it was something completely different and exciting that was coming out. Over the last couple of years, however, I've gotten back into the genre a bit more and feel like bands like Code Orange are at the forefront of the metal scene. It's been cool to see metalcore go back to its roots while still evolving and I'm excited to see what comes out of the scene next!

As I Lay Dying is probably my favorite band of all time. Sick riffs, heavy vocals, clean vocals that don't sound like the dude is about to cry. I want a new album.

I really appreciate this video, it’s nice to hear someone who appreciates the mark this music made on the industry. Everyone’s got their phase/genre of music and it’s nice to hear it talked about and appreciated. Nice vid man, the nostalgia is real

Dude this is channel became even better when you said ADTR is in your top 5 bands and this is my first subscribe on KZfaq love your work keep it up.

Dude. I love every one of these videos. LOVE THE HISTORY. This stuff is so good. Many parts made me laugh. I loved your description of how the scene felt in the 90s vs. now. I went through that too and am nostalgic about the old days. At first I didn't agree with you about the start of metalcore... I may be a little younger. I got into the scene around '94, and most of the bands I loved weren't truly hardcore, but they all played in the hardscore scene. Back then, in SoCal, I don't remember anyone saying "metalcore." It was just called "metal," or maybe "metal with breakdowns." But they played in the hardcore scene, they seemed to have the same philosophical outlook as the hardcore scene, and also hung out with the crowd and didn't hide away in their backstage rooms or make weird demands on the venue like you described. Maybe that was a regional difference, or maybe I just didn't encounter as many metalcore bands as you. But I grew up in that scene, coming from a metal background myself but going to all these punk / hardcore shows, and I gravitated toward those hardcore-mentality bands that had more of a metal sound. And so my band became the same. Very metal, with breakdowns, but songs about social issues that mattered to us. Not the weird metal themes you described haha. But when metalcore began to go more mainstream, I did begin to see the scene change. One of the main things about the old hardcore days (for me), was that bands used to talk about issues they were concerned about from stage. They'd take a few moments to share something passionate about the song they were about to play, about a social issue that concerned them. The crowd could respond, they'd play the song, the crowd would get involved. But toward the end of that time, as metalcore was becoming more a of a mainstream thing, the crowd changed. They didn't care as much. Often, when bands started sharing something, people would just go outside for a smoke break or go to the merch tables. And I started noticing everyone dying their hair black and painting their nails black, and wearing all black.And suddenly it was all sideways, and then kinda died. And that's when I quite my band to do other things. And the band went on, and some of the members because quite successful in the emerging mainstream scene. But I agree, it was completely different. And I'm encouraged that you think the earlier 90's days are coming back. I've been trying to get back into the scene here in Charlotte. I've had a hard time finding info on the local scene, where shows are, etc., but I've recently made some contacts so I'm hopeful. Keep these videos coming! This stuff is so awesome!

The "Southern" thing was pretty simple: Pantera. Further, COC and Crowbar.

I learned several new terms via this video, but Red State Rock takes the cake.

i remember loving viva la bam and the music, but i was very into german metal and punk (a lot more access, since i live in germany) i had a very strong connection to japanese rock and metal and came into the whole metalcore thing at the end of the transition phase. but what really hooked me up to it was 2012 rock im park, seeing asking alexandria live for the first time and i literally knew one song. and they blew me away on stage. and that was magical. i recently rediscovered them and i still do love them a lot. loved your breakdown of how metalcore changed through the years! also you reminded me of some bands i have to add back into my playlists...