What Love Feels Like for the Fearful Avoidant & Why Their Relationships Can Struggle To Last

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@rachelabrams3849
@rachelabrams3849 3 жыл бұрын
As an FA who's always trying to provide people with the 'best' date or best experience and attend to all of their needs-I almost experience this rubber band snap where at some point down the line I think "this person feels close to me but they don't know me at all. I've just given them what they want but they don't know the real me." And that's when my avoidant tendencies kick in and I ghost or act like I was never interested at all.
@laurentlorenzo4843
@laurentlorenzo4843 3 жыл бұрын
Identical patterns 💯
@MellowBellow1
@MellowBellow1 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing that happens with the fear that the person only likes you for “the mask”. ..... because all that effort does hide the real you. So you recreate the abandonment crisis. ... but this time you have “control” over it. .... It’s like a reaction formation to bring “flawed” so you attract some Ung based on a “false” you. Because you are good enough without the mask. But you don’t let people see that. So you’re always defended.
@cwmorris
@cwmorris 3 жыл бұрын
exactly this
@starydwumas7481
@starydwumas7481 3 жыл бұрын
@@Airkae ye i did that. I thought that this girl is too good for me and she was thinking about moving out from family area after graduation, so i cut my relation to make it easier for her. I always thought that she doesn't know real me, only my good side. I'm afraid that that i might have bad day and explode which can cause hurting someone both physically and mentally.
@Mollyjak4
@Mollyjak4 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel… oh my gosh, that’s what I do but didn’t even realize it… wow, that’s so on me … I’ve got to reveal “me” more and my “boundaries” damn people pleasing and being so intuitive
@calliearmstrong7872
@calliearmstrong7872 3 жыл бұрын
Watching these videos is simultaneously emotionally draining and comforting and it’s making my brain confused 😂
@sazonada
@sazonada 2 жыл бұрын
Feeling emotional and confused? Yep you're definitely one of us 😂😂😂 😘😘😘
@suap309
@suap309 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me realise I've got more relationship issues than I first thought. Lots of life-long work to do. Makes me wonder how any marriages last more than a few years, and both parties stay happy.
@iamindiachanae
@iamindiachanae Жыл бұрын
Yessss! I'm 85% Secure 15% anxious and most my partners have been avoidant and I agree 😂
@backup3537
@backup3537 2 жыл бұрын
How to feel safe in relationships 1. Recognize it doesn't have to always be a high/great 2. Question expectations n where the other person is coming from so u can relax 3. Recognize the pressure you're putting on yourself about managing everyone's life 4. Ask what people need; don't just guess 5. Recognize fears n organized connection strategies (direct communication; lists) as to what to do 6. Recognize the stories u tell n separate from reality 7. Communicate needs instead of the guessing game overtime
@gracelight7
@gracelight7 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of a good way for FA's to adjust from 'intensity' to 'stability' phase; try and think about the colours red and pink, they are both associated with love, but red is intense passion, and pink is caring and loving. to get red to white you need to add white, and you can think of it as adding a little more space, and intensity dying down a little. in time you can always 'spice' up the relationship back to red when you need to. I also like to go a step further and thinking of 'adding white' as adding a 'stabiliser' (like they do in food production) which may get in between the red molecules and fade colour (into pink/lighter red) but its essential to all supermarket foods to make them last longer (and so... your relationship!).
@s_e_w_p_h_i_e
@s_e_w_p_h_i_e 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is happening in my relationship. As a FA leaning anxious I’ve never experienced the feeling of settling or relaxing into the next phase because as soon as there’s a shift in dynamic or I perceive my bf putting in less effort then I start to panic and make it mean I’m not important anymore or they’re not invested or the whole thing is fundamentally flawed. I’m always preparing for an ending and hyper attuned to everything that might indicate one is coming...
@ernestinebrown5
@ernestinebrown5 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. One less phone call or not hearing from the person as much I always assume he’s no longer interested and prepare to end the dating phase.
@avanessa4914
@avanessa4914 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! As an anxious preoccupied with an FA partner, I wanna be consistent with him, but i’m affraid not to be “too much” if i always “put effort” and give the attention. So how would you FAs define this fine line between your partner being consistent and your partner being too much? Cuz it feels like if i m consistently puttinf effort, my Fa partner suddenly acts uninterested, so my instinct is to pull back a bit(and this is what you perceive as “less effort” or shift in dynamic. I d really like to have some insights on this.
@suap309
@suap309 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestinebrown5 I wonder what happens when 2 FA's date eachother? Do they both keep giving validation to eachother that they're not going to chuck the other one because they love them?
@mish7868
@mish7868 2 жыл бұрын
@@suap309 generally yes. But one FA might be less interested to give affirmation than the other, so the push n pull happens even between 2 FAs
@trxpicaldreams9781
@trxpicaldreams9781 2 жыл бұрын
YES the effort!!!!
@susannahwares1170
@susannahwares1170 4 жыл бұрын
This is SO me. It sucks because we deeply desire to trust someone to love us but trust is so hard when we’ve never gotten to experience that from our caregivers. I wish more people were understanding of this, because for me even when these insecurities have been expressed there has only been more rejection. So the pattern continues. So repetitively hurtful.
@Spats2Bats
@Spats2Bats 3 жыл бұрын
When you are someone on the autistic spectrum, it's like a wound on top of a wound. Always feeling like I'm broken when I know I'm not, knowing that I am just wired differently and that being sensitive isn't bad, but yet when you lay down the mask sometimes, people might think you are too weird and distance themselves slowly away from you...like a slow, slow burn...it hurts.
@Julsies7
@Julsies7 11 ай бұрын
What do you realistically expect people to do when you tell them that you could never trust them? When people see that you’re closed off because you can’t trust others , of course they’re going to then not trust you. I don’t think it’s abnormal for people to be afraid of getting hurt by FA’s once the FA has expressed that they can’t be open and consistent. Asking other types to be strung along for the ride of pain is a bit selfish IMO.
@grrlinglasses
@grrlinglasses 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thais for the insights. I realize now that when you said "create conflict" I'm either looking for validation or proof that I am loved and that they are indeed part of the relationship. It is very tiring, it's like beating a hornets' nest for proof that I am loveable or that I am constantly testing them to see what they are really like and how far they can be pushed before they leave. It's like I can't relax and feel like I'm in a constant state of hypervigilance and suffocating. It's usually around this stage that I leave or push them away to prove that I am better off alone and unloveable.
@kh9553
@kh9553 4 жыл бұрын
D. This sounds EXACTLY like me
@siguw7169
@siguw7169 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly like me....you know what is helping on the path to become a better person? Putting my self first and allowing my self to be selfish sometimes. Letting myself enjoy what I like to enjoy doing and put the person as second priority helped me alot in not being impulsive and constantly searching for their reaction.
@grrlinglasses
@grrlinglasses 4 жыл бұрын
@@siguw7169 thank you for sharing. 😃
@tequilabumbum4373
@tequilabumbum4373 4 жыл бұрын
Love yourself more. When you do and when you try to meet your needs instead expect your partner to meet all of them, you will feel more relaxed and be able to enjoy in a relationship.
@zaan619
@zaan619 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly me. I pushed her away. But that girl who said she couldn't live without me got into a new relation within 6 months of our breakup. Good that I didn't believe her words. No regrets. But yeah, improving myself every day. Thais has been a great find!
@elaineypainey
@elaineypainey 4 жыл бұрын
How can you tell the difference between your expectations that need to be questioned and just the person not putting enough effort in?
@jamieleebrooks815
@jamieleebrooks815 4 жыл бұрын
This!!
@dyanalynn6698
@dyanalynn6698 4 жыл бұрын
elaineypainey hi there great question... I’m a bit confused as well because I’ve heard people say not to have any expectations because it just leads to disappoint but I’ve always thought it’s the unrealistic expectations that get us into trouble. I expect people to do what they say they’re gonna do. I expect to get paid for work I perform.... that’s realistic too etc. it would be unrealistic for me to expect that my man can read my mind, or unrealistic for me to expect my man to change his mind about having kids if he’s told me more than once he doesn’t want them That’s my take on expectations 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m sure there are other opinions
@kjohnsonshelton0923
@kjohnsonshelton0923 4 жыл бұрын
elaineypainey I’ve been wondering the same thing- especially emotional expectations. I find myself constantly questioning if my expectations are valid or not, like when there isn’t mutual emotional support and filling love tanks. I often feel I’m running on fumes in these areas.
@adamwood87
@adamwood87 3 жыл бұрын
i'd advise asking. if there's an area where you feel a lack of input/effort, don't presume the other person just knows - they are not a mindreader. you have to talk. you have to check in with each other. if you get angry at someone else because didn't do what you never brought to their attention, who's to blame?
@Shaunteetalkstv
@Shaunteetalkstv 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@RC00PZ
@RC00PZ 4 жыл бұрын
Every video about fearful avoidants I feel like your literally taking about me! I do all the things you describe .. and as much as it’s cringeworthy it feels good to know I’m not crazy and obviously other people experience this!
@zaan619
@zaan619 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly me! Thais has been a great find! God bless her!
@simmonsrenesha
@simmonsrenesha 3 жыл бұрын
The most refreshing things about these videos are to know im not carzy
@justinefreedom5964
@justinefreedom5964 4 жыл бұрын
It's so true craving that high and passion...but one of my main reasons for why I think I do it...which connects in with me 'not being enough' is I worry that...if I was just chill and relaxed and fully me...with less highs and passions....without feeling the need to 'perform and be perfect'...that the person would get bored of me when they see real me and be like...oh is that all? Then move on cos I don't excite them anymore...ie I'm not good enough. So yeah I always feel this pressure to...make them spark (usually in a good way although of course I've poked in ways I shouldn't)...just so they feel energised and excited and curious and wanting to explore life with me. It's this innate fear that the real me is boring, unworthy and never worth the effort to push past the tough stuff.
@tequilabumbum4373
@tequilabumbum4373 4 жыл бұрын
Justine Freedom thats why its important to love yourself! The most important base. You are not boring, not good enough, not worthy! This is your perception of yourself, that needs to be changed first. What I do, is listen to “self love affirmations”, there are many on youtube. Try to do it every evening and every morning, its 10 min of your time, you can do it! Its so worth it! When you pass a mirror, look at yourself in the eyes, and say “I love you, I really do, you are amazing, you are lovable, you are worthy!!!” Even if you dont believe it at first, keep doing it, you will start to believe it more and more. Good luck❤️
@dyanalynn6698
@dyanalynn6698 4 жыл бұрын
My innate fear was that the real me would scare the sh*t out of him 🤪 I was always very reactive.. fly off the handle type.
@2002fulla
@2002fulla 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss!! i feel the same! It's so frustrating to feel that and way and not knowing how to overcome this feeling!
@mohamedhadjhafsi9441
@mohamedhadjhafsi9441 3 жыл бұрын
I have that fear to of running out of interesting things to say or do
@elusiva9389
@elusiva9389 3 жыл бұрын
So hard loving them...and being pushed away. I was at a pretty secure place, and this relationship makes me feel more anxious-preoccupied. It doesn't feel over, but i feel like my hands are tied. I don't want to move on because i know he left because we got too close. Things were great. 😪 He friendzoned me and i had to take space. Now he is starting over with someone new. So heartbroken.
@user-tk4qd8dj1p
@user-tk4qd8dj1p 3 жыл бұрын
When I stopped being perfect, everyone got insecure I wasn’t meeting their needs, assumed I was a danger/threat/judging/excluding them, and rushed to gossip/exclude/insult/bully/degrade me . No one I was friends with, had self esteem or believed they were lovable. That’s the thing with overhelping and being FA. You attract weak insecure or DA people who leave when YOU may need support. Do not check in , because never get to point that can soothe their own insecurity enough to approach you. I set up the dynamic where I always approached them or always responded over available. It was during a hard time of my life, and I backed away in pain, and came back to being bullied by long time friends, men who used me for an ego boost and degraded me publicly thinking I judged them, women who were jealous of me and stirred aggression towards me. I completely broke. At that point I could t stay dissociated anymore (happens from all emotional invalidation, gaslighting in childhood). Felt such deep pain that I knew I was emotionally unstable and completely frightened of people. Could have connected to my emotional side and not just stuck in logical side, so could sense I was unsafe, if did guided somatic psychotherapy and CBT earlier. Once I ran out of logic and past experience, I was easily manipulated because looked to the same people hurting me for knowledge versus trusting my intuition, setting boundaries between friends and therapists in one. This attachment style from trauma followed by abusive gaslighting, set me up to have zero boundaries, hypervigilant, until first time I took a break and all my nightmares came true because I didn’t have friends I had insecure leeches around me group bullying excluding me, DAs afraid I’d exclude them first. Learn from this. Evil hides in plain sight some nice people are evil cowards, putting in a social front. Make sure you are in touch with self so can ensure niceness are actions consistently with meeting your needs. If cannot connect to your needs, cannot even start to realistically and consistently validate others. Will abuse you doe eyed, and act like nothing’s wrong, invalidating you and overpowering you in a group. Prevention matters to say I don’t desire this for myself and leave. To not engage and debate in confusion where can get a group to bully you, especially when jealous/intimidated/insecure around you.
@yulin8690
@yulin8690 3 жыл бұрын
felt this ♥️♥️♥️♥️
@Peachy.Greenz
@Peachy.Greenz 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. this totally resonated with me. I’ve been acknowledging this issue for a while but keep sweeping it under the rug; they really only like you unless you completely sacrifice yourself for their lack of sense of egos huh..
@natalia.grandi
@natalia.grandi 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have been so revealing to me. I’m binge watching your channel and I feel so much clarity already! Wow wow wow
@austinmontano5087
@austinmontano5087 4 жыл бұрын
This was just amazing! Thank you. I am in the middle of DA in FA and for the longest time I thought something was wrong with me. Now that I have a greater understanding of myself I am able to share with with my partner information that put into words of understanding.
@LanNguyen-iu3oe
@LanNguyen-iu3oe 2 жыл бұрын
My fearful avoidant ex just ended things with me recently. It was tiring-consisted of me communicating my needs and him never saying anything leading him bottling things up and then exploding. But what really killed me was when he said I didn’t actually like him and my efforts as a girlfriend was questionable. I showed him affection as much as possible and affirm with words. And whenever I couldn’t meet up I would explain the situation (due to school and family commitments) but he took me not being able to meet up much as me not liking him.
@nanibuchanan7443
@nanibuchanan7443 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy and relieved to have found your videos! I’m an FA and had never considered attachment disorders much less heard of these. I identify with so much that I have been attributing to my depression and anxiety. I’ve recently realized that I’ve been living in survival mode, but couldn’t quite focus in on why. Your explanation of the fearful avoidant attachment clearly speaks and resonates to my experience. Thank you so much for sharing these videos with us!
@mckenziered7
@mckenziered7 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your efforts to help each of with your skills, knowledge, and gifts. You are so generous on so many levels. You are a model of what a FA can become healed. Thank you!
@Borboleta1212
@Borboleta1212 4 жыл бұрын
I relate to this so much - thank you!! 🥰 I appreciate how you mention the positive things that FAs can bring to a relationship (once they learn to moderate/balance these innate tendencies)- while equally how this can go too far to the point where they are so hypervigilant that they burn out. It’s certainly highly important to feel a sense of security and comfort in a relationship. I very much relate to the part where you say FA’s find it hard to tell the difference between love and infatuation. I remember with my ex, I was so keen to always be bringing my best to the relationship and for us not to become “over-familiar” with each other or (God forbid!! 😲😂) get into an argument- that if I wasn’t feeling my best I would prefer not to see him that day and to spend time alone. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing to carve out time to yourself in a relationship ... there is definitely such a thing as overfamiliarity , which has a tendency to breed resentment and annoyance and also be a major passion killer . However, I think I took it a little far in the opposite direction because I was so fixated on keeping the relationship “harmonious” and not wanting him to see me in any state other than my best that it created this underlying tension in the background. He was hurt by the idea of me needing time to myself...I would spend almost all weekends with him and if I even wanted to leave a few hours early on the Sunday, he would get extremely sulky and pissed. I think that points to some major attachment issues on his part, but in the opposite direction! I am learning so much for your channel and I am really excited by the idea of rewiring my subconscious so I can enjoy much more healthy, fulfilling and joyful relationships. Thank you so much for providing all this info for free - you are a Godsend and a real humanitarian! ❤️🥰🙏
@pamelawakefield529
@pamelawakefield529 4 жыл бұрын
Thais that was really helpful. Love the checking in once a week strategy to see how needs are being met. As a FA I tend not to go the distance in relationships always bailing out anywhere from 3 weeks to a couple of months. I stayed in my marriage the longest because we had 2 children. There’s always this rush to get to the love stage & looking for strategies to keep the love, in the end it’s either pushed away or I feel like my needs are not being met and I walk away, all the while I haven’t done a good job expressing my needs or even really knowing what was missing. I’m not even sure I really know what love is. Thank you for this. I’m learning..
@simmonsrenesha
@simmonsrenesha 3 жыл бұрын
Can you check in once a week with a DA? i feel he would run for the hills...being a FA is exhausting....im finally watching more FA videos its nice to take a break from trying to figure out the DA and my resentment is starting to kick in, and the door is closing slowly
@toninatoli
@toninatoli 4 жыл бұрын
I've come such a long way with hypervigilance and intensity and have become more and more secure. It's a great reminder though that the "sea that I swim in" is still that FA deep, preverbal conditioning. Thanks, Thais.
@siguw7169
@siguw7169 4 жыл бұрын
You're an angel, thank you
@mistypfitzer111
@mistypfitzer111 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just soaking up as much of this, incredible content, as I possibly can! Thank you SO much for all your hard work, it truly is such a blessing!! ✨🌟🥰😊💜💐🌱
@dwiputri1938
@dwiputri1938 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the secret that I keep to myself and you ripped it out of me. I realized that I always looking for the high's in relationship, especially when I've been through the honeymoon phase. I've trying to pick on tiny little thing and make a problem out of it as a "prevention of a heartbreak" because I thought I've known better. Didn't realized all I do is just trying to create familiar situation as when I was growing up when everything is unpredictable and anything could go wrong anytime. After all it's an unecesary defends that I do for myself
@cavelleardiel
@cavelleardiel 4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic content. Thank you
@jasminebowerman1338
@jasminebowerman1338 4 жыл бұрын
What about when these subconscious fears make you feel like you aren’t in love anymore? I feel so in love then so out of love and then back in love again. It’s exhausting for me and my partner. And when the fear comes it’s like anxiety takes over any feelings of love that were once there
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting way to describe it, and that might be why my bf ghosted me after 4yrs?
@simmonsrenesha
@simmonsrenesha 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know how many FA's make it into a serious relationship... i have situationship but im my mind im in a relationship...pray for me
@PHOENIX-ux3gw
@PHOENIX-ux3gw 3 жыл бұрын
Im just like this!!
@wesley6442
@wesley6442 3 жыл бұрын
oh my goodness, your post really helped me to better understand the FA attachment behavior so much better. I always wondered why my partner would suddenly despair and lose all feelings, it wasn't a head game it was just the subconscious triggers. as a AP I would always "fight" to bring her back and excite and liven things up to bring back the passion and it'd work but she'd fight and resist so many times along the way it was so exhausting emotionally, felt neglectful at times. We are currently taking a 3 week break idk if I will come back or she will come back ever again, I want to but there's so much work to do on each other first
@OBNfull1000
@OBNfull1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesley6442 Oh no this is what my bf and I are going through. I'm the FA resisting and yes it's been insanely emotionally draining on both ends. We're in therapy and I'm trying to stay positive and throw myself back in but it is hard. I don't want to hurt him again :(
@timmcdraw7568
@timmcdraw7568 3 жыл бұрын
I am taken completely aback by how much I am nodding along with everything you've said about fearful avoidant. Everything about all your FA videos, from the early child hood creation of the FA, to what feelings feel like, to what we hope for/need in relationships speaks directly to my experience. I'm talking about my inner experience as well as external. All of these qualities are things that I have been made to feel guilty for in all my relationships, the times I retreated to take care of myself, even if it were for an hour, would trigger cascades of hurt and rage about the hurt from my partners, and I thought there was really something really very deeply wrong with me, that who I was when I was just being myself was innately painful to those I loved, and that if I truly cared about my partner I would get help to change every single thing about myself including my instinctual responses to every day events and my personal needs in times of personal needs, such as illnesses or grief. Its amazing how quickly I was willing to take on the role as the only thing wrong with the relationships, and even when I was aware that I was taking on things that weren't mine, or that weren't fair, or were an obvious boundary overreach into my personal being. I wonder if that's the key thing though, the reason I became a fearful avoidant to begin with was that my parents made me feel like there was something wrong with me, something about me made them not want to love me, and that once a person came into the inner core of my life I believed they would be confronted with the part of me that was there, the part who's parents couldn't even love it. jeeeze if I were a petty con artist, I would hunt high and low for a single and available fearful avoidant, abd I'd make them fall in love with me, after which point I'd start the suffering lover act. I started this comment with sorrow wishing I could show these videos to my ex partner as some sort of amends and explanation, but ended it feeling pretty pissed off. (haha for more, please see How the Fearful Avoidant Reacts to a Break Up) I'm looking forward to employing the perspective that attachment styles brings, so I can actually tackle some of the parts of myself that I (key word being I) would like to change, and do it with empathy. AND gratitude that as a child I developed such effective ways to protect myself. I clearly thought there was something worth protecting then!
@raginichaudhary4789
@raginichaudhary4789 2 жыл бұрын
The last two lines of your comment really helped me reframe how I look at these coping mechanisms I’d developed in a more accepting and positive light. Thank you.
@timmcdraw7568
@timmcdraw7568 2 жыл бұрын
@@raginichaudhary4789 I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you for telling me.
@thatsso_imani
@thatsso_imani 2 жыл бұрын
You really must have a partner who understands this behavior because it can become very taxing to the partner and that is where I sometimes feel bad. Why should they have to reassure me everyday because I can’t get it together. Oh the mind of a fearful avoidant!🤦🏽‍♀️
@Utobong
@Utobong 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, love this and can totally relate. Could you do a video of what love feels like when you are on healing and moving towards a more secure attachment style.
@Soleil.m
@Soleil.m 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been so confused about how I feel towards someone as I was when I was close friends with another FA. Through these videos I'm better understanding the reasons behind certain actions.
@ShinFuYux
@ShinFuYux 4 жыл бұрын
"it can be extremely draining to be constantly in the state of guessing, figuring out, trying to decide, understand. It's just a lot of pressure, a lot of weight to carry. And again, it's create the breeding ground for resentment over time." The truest words I've heard. I wanted it to work, I wanted to succeed and get past this but for some reason she was just stuck in her ways and nothing would get to her. She wouldn't even open up and talk about it either. It was like pulling teeth with her because she just wouldn't say anything but be in this Doom and Gloom state. So, I would be overanalyzing, over evaluating, guessing, imagining what exactly I did wrong or she wasn't happy with. I look back things we did, said, went to, and didn't do. I would put myself in her shoes and imagine how she would feel if I said this or that in a certain way. Then once everything failed, she still left me and I resented her for a while.... But that slowly changed and I ended up blaming myself for not being able to figure it out, for giving up at the end. Why couldn't I fix this? Why am I so obsessed, so passionate? Why couldn't I just let her go and accept that we had a major compatibility issue? Sigh..
@amelieschulz4075
@amelieschulz4075 4 жыл бұрын
You're not alone. 💛
@ShinFuYux
@ShinFuYux 4 жыл бұрын
@@amelieschulz4075 I surely feel like I am.
@amelieschulz4075
@amelieschulz4075 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShinFuYux I feel everything that you wrote, I went through the same and I'm still going. It's incredibly exhausting to be in this state of always trying to fix things, to find answers, being so much in the other's shoes that you completely forget to stand in your own's. Let me tell you one thing: you are worthy of true love. You are worthy of a love that doesn't come with constant fighting, stress and uncertainty, but a love that comes naturally, let's you rest and feels like a grounding exhale instead of an exciting but also uptensing inhale. I know how hard it is, but you have to release the need to control others. And that's very difficult with a background like our's that created this attachment style because we're convinced of our power to influence people into what we want them to do if we just attune to them enough and do the right thing. But relationships actually aren't about control. It looks like you were really putting a lot of effort in it and if that wasn't successful, maybe giving up is the only smart option. Which is not at all about giving up tbh. Sometimes we have to let go and let things naturally flow. As you see, I'm trying to find the right words, but I'm in this situation myself and still struggling, so all I can say for sure is that you're not alone. That you're worthy of true love. Worthy of a relationship where you're not the only one trying to fix things. Worthy of someone that chooses you exactly for who you are, without you having to second guess all the time. You'll get there - we will. 💛
@kgmfencing9835
@kgmfencing9835 4 жыл бұрын
@@amelieschulz4075 these words really are so true. I've been struggling with getting over my FA ex for the last 4 months. It's been so hard but I keep reminding myself that it wasn't me and I deserve better etc. She blocked me 4 months ago and I've heard nothing since. I'm left thinking how can she say she loved me and always would and the fact she left because she felt unloved and unwanted yet.. That was all in her head! I thought I'd be feeling better by now but it's still the same hurt.
@hanmanteomkar
@hanmanteomkar Жыл бұрын
you could have & would have fixed it but it takes two to tango. you cannot fix someone else. you deserve so much better
@smileyface702
@smileyface702 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I *am* fearful avoidant. I am in awe.
@2002fulla
@2002fulla 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This video exactly explains how I feel right now and I will surely try to apply the strategies! Maybe if you can make more videos relating to this topic or the subtopics! 😊👍
@catalina6024
@catalina6024 Жыл бұрын
Reminder to not blame ourselves for doing this. We're here and we're learning and we're trying and there are two persons in a relationship, so if it doesn't work out it isn't necessarily just because of us.
@alannwebb
@alannwebb 3 жыл бұрын
I'm DA that was in a relationship with an FA and this is exactly how things played out when the relationship was coming to a close, it walloped me and felt like the only break up I ever had in my life. Wish I knew this info back then so I could have communicated better instead of withdrawaling.
@amberdangelo6637
@amberdangelo6637 3 жыл бұрын
You should apply the attachment styles to parenting. How does each style affect parenting, parents space as well as the child's space within those dynamics. Then, how to fix it so that the parent can be the best possible influence on the child.. Specific strategies for the parent to utilize mindfully to influence their child's attachment style in the most healthy way. Identify the underlying strategies to be a better parent & give the tools to follow through consistently.
@luxtarot5559
@luxtarot5559 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative, thank you
@mizuslayer
@mizuslayer 2 жыл бұрын
so so good. such gr8 helpful information
@Arlo809
@Arlo809 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy all your videos and am learning a lot from them. Thank you! Wondering if you have any videos to help someone who was raised by a parent with Borderline Personality Disorder.
@gameheaded
@gameheaded 3 жыл бұрын
im dating a FA and everything that she's saying is. True. im an AP but ive been working on myslef so much. I can literally time her breakdowns now. We have periods of time where there is peace, but then shortly after she stirs up conflict (almost out of nowhere). It feels chaotic.
@rachdrage4702
@rachdrage4702 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% fearful avoidant, recently discovered after finding your videos and it's such a massive relief to be understood! I tick every box for a high functioning FA and I really want to learn how to have healthy relationships. My problem with my ex was, that he was so chilled out and secure that he never had anything more to say than 'yeah fine, were fine' which didn't reassure me at all 😂 but I always expected more of him, I perceived I was doing everything in the relationship and it was coasting and putting in no effort, and I didn't know how to handle the post honeymoon phase so we broke up..
@Shaunteetalkstv
@Shaunteetalkstv 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I'm in a relationship now with a secure attachment (I'm fearful) and I have the perception of doing more and it makes me want to leave or draw a line, but I fear if I do so I'll look back and see nothing was wrong and maybe I just need to stop overgiving 🥴🤦🏾‍♀️
@welutha
@welutha 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shaunteetalkstv Are you guys sure your partner is/was secure and not avoidant? Responses like "yeah fine" do not seem very secure to me, rather dissmissive. I spent 9 years thinking I'm in a relationship with a secure person who turned out to be a chill, conflict avoiding DA who hid his avoidance behind a "nice guy" attitude. He would often nod, agree, say he understands, but it was just his way of keeping peace and maintaining distance. He never really shared his fears, annoyances and worries and did not really hear mine. I felt like there's something wrong with me for not being happy in a relationship that is "fine". Turned out I was relating to my own empathic thoughts rather than his actual feelings, because these were never truly in the open. Alan Robarge has a nice video on how being "nice" can be a form of emotional avoidance.
@Chaxbs
@Chaxbs 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked on the comments because to me this answer also sounded dismissive, rather then secure…
@jerrykasinger8621
@jerrykasinger8621 2 жыл бұрын
This is helpful thank you
@soulfulspec
@soulfulspec 4 жыл бұрын
U always leave anxious last , the waiting makes me ... anxious 😂
@vida130
@vida130 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny! Lol
@kittykat.88
@kittykat.88 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 love this!
@fayeshyu2737
@fayeshyu2737 3 жыл бұрын
I found out I am FA and trying to fix myself.. watched all these videos and everything resonates with my experience. Before I knew about FA, i have tried the religious way, spiritual way, everything but nothing works well. So i was so excited and expected the change might finally happens to me and my relationship. But no... even though I knew my pattern, I knew my weakness, I still can't really control myself to feel unsafe.. and this mistake still harms me and my loved one. I m giving up trying and just want to be in my safe place, which is only me to myself.
@sarapetrucellyblacktreeblu2829
@sarapetrucellyblacktreeblu2829 4 жыл бұрын
In a relationship for 8 years and thinking I would rather just he alone at this point. So draining.
@adamwood87
@adamwood87 3 жыл бұрын
do you still feel that way? eight years is a long investment if there is no unresolvable issue.
@jaymiller3559
@jaymiller3559 4 жыл бұрын
Great insight, excellent presentation! No one has a grasp on this life changing information like you. Thank you!
@rubyanaya126
@rubyanaya126 Жыл бұрын
Thank You 💕😊
@THREEONEMUSIC_
@THREEONEMUSIC_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you alot
@VickiMM
@VickiMM Жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@melissamullinator
@melissamullinator 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that this is FA characteristic. My primary pattern was secure and secondary was AP. But some of these things resonate with me, like the hypervigilance and empath, etc.
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense, since Fearful Avoidant (also called Anxious/Avoidant) is a combination of Anxious Preoccupied and Dismissive Avoidant. So, you're relating to the anxious part of each style. I'm like you, mostly secure with anxious tendencies that surface when my partner pulls away real hard and I'm befuddled as to what's going on. I'm highly attuned to the most minor things, like the first rumblings before an earthquake hits, lol.
@carriemarshall8831
@carriemarshall8831 4 жыл бұрын
I was willing to do this but my partner wouldnt/couldn't/didn't want to listen to any needs I had. We were all about him,keeping him HAPPY,his needs and wants. I wish I had found you on you tube earlier because I didn't know any of this stuff and I'm nearly 50 now. And single again.
@user-rc1my2xc3s
@user-rc1my2xc3s 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video - an ex FA 🌹
@celinabarrera7819
@celinabarrera7819 4 жыл бұрын
So there is hope 😊
@Pseudononymous99
@Pseudononymous99 3 жыл бұрын
It’s possible???
@thespiritualhoe3023
@thespiritualhoe3023 3 жыл бұрын
Jordana Alexis I’m living proof too
@yeonsollee6592
@yeonsollee6592 Жыл бұрын
i realized i am an FA who dated another FA. it was difficult because our dynamics would shift so much. my partner was very inconsistent and non committal for the first five months in which i stayed patient, understanding, and tried to self soothe while also trying to meet their needs. I knew and accepted my partner as they are and that they may not be able to meet my needs. I essentially didn’t need a lot either. once they started feeling more secure/affectionate, I realized that had a sense of distrust because I was afraid they would become inconsistent again. they also said they didn’t have any needs and i was perfect the way i was. I knew that I wanted my partner to be able to create better boundaries around being able to say “no” and had already given up on hopes that they would initiate things that brought a lot of emotional intimacy such as spending quality time. I was confused then began verbalizing my “needs” (more like a request) and my partner could perfectly meet them but I always felt so far. I became volatile out of nowhere and i didn’t know where it was stemming from and it ended up really hurting our relationship. it brought a lot of shame….. we had serious different ideas of what needs were in the relationship. What I didn’t need was constant assurances, acts of service,,, what I needed was consistency and emotional closeness. but i would ask for the superficial things because i felt like maybe my partner was only capable of meeting the needs I was able to tangibly express. I essentially didn’t innately feel safe in the relationship due to arising abandonment issues. I felt like I as constantly trying to meet my partners needs, my own needs and the needs of the relationship which none of them really truly integrated. My partner only had the emotional capacity to meet one persons need. When that was being spent on me, I could tell that we were running danger of engulfment. I wish I had stayed friends or that somehow we could have created a dynamic where our own self care was the primary responsibility in the relationship that way we could really show up authentically. I feel soooo bad for the volatility and hyper vigilance. but also thankful that my partner was empowered enough to say they couldn’t keep doing this. Surprisingly, my abandonment issue disappeared and I was genuinely hopeful for both of us separately. He doesn’t want to talk and feels really upset/unsafe after the breakup. I wanted to stay friends and have no hard feelings and send him so much love. I want to respect his needs for space and that he can forgive my insecurity within the relationship. One day hopefully we can try again when we both are sufficiently fulfilled within ourselves!
@shespeaks1971
@shespeaks1971 3 жыл бұрын
Yes very good information I am I fearful avoidant although I wonder if I am only fearful avoidant in this relationship because I never would’ve answered the quiz questions the way I do in this relationship. But let me ask you this. If I’m married to a dismissive avoidant with Alexithymia and DID, does your Advice still apply
@nurarifah3109
@nurarifah3109 4 жыл бұрын
Love your video. Thank u ❤🤗
@sandler2724
@sandler2724 4 жыл бұрын
What is my attachment style if I'm constantly anxious and have thoughts that my partner is in love with someone else and that I'm not good enough. In most of my relationships I compared myself to his the ex girlfriend I felt most threatened by and I always beat myself up saying "I'm not good enough, I'm not as pretty as her, I'll never fulfill my partner the way that his ex did", etc. I get very anxious when I don't hear from my partner after a few hours and I start to wonder if they are losing interest in me. My current partner finds me emotionally exhausting because I'm constantly finding something wrong with the relationship or trying to fix something he says isn't really an issue and I get very dramatic and it's a lot...
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
You sound like a typical Anxious Preoccupied style. Always feeling insecure, worried about what they are feeling, jealous/possessive, never feeling good enough, always expecting them to cheat or leave you, and constantly ruminating over every little thing they say/do to see if there are "red flags".
@veranova3532
@veranova3532 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know if you don't love them or if you're just a fearful avoidant and you do love them? And you're confused between the two because maybe when you start to feel something for someone it triggers feelings of anxiety and fear? How do you know the anxiety you feel is because they're not the one for you or because you're a fearful avoidant?
@katten138
@katten138 4 жыл бұрын
Im wondering to because I only fall for unaivable partners and when I find someone stable I find myself without romantic emotions, Im just numb and then comes the anxiety and depression.
@rose-pz1is
@rose-pz1is 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that I was looking up for this `Do I love them or not` and I ended up here tells a lot, I think lol. If it's sth we all experience, the answer is clear.
@InsomniacNaz
@InsomniacNaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@rose-pz1is so do we actually love them or not?
@rose-pz1is
@rose-pz1is 3 жыл бұрын
@@InsomniacNaz From my understanding, yes, we do love them. But, because we associated love with pain and constant, never ending state of being alert when we were kids, love doesn't feel good. We feel like we have to be alert to any change in our partner's behavior and feelings towards us etc. This is exhausting and stressful. So, this state of being anxious and exhausted overweigh the good feelings of love. Because we didn't feel the positive feelings that love brings when we were children. We don't know what real love feels like. Any kind of love reminds us on a subconscious level of the traumas we had related to love from parents and that makes us feel triggered and scared. That's what I got from the videos.
@rose-pz1is
@rose-pz1is 3 жыл бұрын
@@InsomniacNaz you dont feel those scary or confused feelings toward sb you don't love anyway. So that's also a sign. You may be loving them or starting loving them or starting wanting them to love you.
@colleenmitchell5208
@colleenmitchell5208 3 жыл бұрын
THAIS, your amazing thank you, I have a unique request.. Can you make a video about two FAs with one having alot of shame about family and in turn keeps the Relationship separte from family. For fear off the toxicity spilling over to the relationship. The other FA feels they are bieng controlling and kept secret when that may not be the actual story. Thank you.
@brandi3224
@brandi3224 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. Could you talk more about what the f a is thinking and feeling when they are on their avoidant side? I understand what happens when they lean anxious. That makes sense to me because I'm an a p. What should I keep in mind when an f a individual is leaning avoidant. Is there anything I can say or do to make things easier for the f a individual? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
@matildedelgrosso8262
@matildedelgrosso8262 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to understand my type of attachment. Feel like I was anxious attached to my mom cuz my dad was not present at all during my childhood emotionally, he was only and rarely there physically to meet my materialistic needs like a house, money etcetera. Also, my mom was really loving and caring at times and also really protective so I think that I was like that when I was younger. Also my shy introverted nature didn't let me go out into the world too much so I was stuck with her for, like, 10 years like I was a baby u know... Then my sister was born and things started to fall apart cuz my mum and dad started fighting everyday, my father was extremely emotionally abusive with her and I started letting all that negativity in without even realizing it, in fact now I bring many traits of my father and mother cuz in that period I was really really disconnected from myself, cuz there was no opportunity to express in even the good ways, cuz my father started to beat me up and triangulating me (also, my mother did that too) into their fights so I was I dunno I really started to play the role of the 'hero' that protected my mother against my father and u know I had to suppress all of my emotions, also in front of my mother so I was all alone. I think at that point I was fearful avoidant and that stuck with me? Like, is that possible? Then all the few relationships (only friends, never a lover cuz I never let my guard down so much, now a lil bit more but it's really difficult cuz it brings up all the suffering of those years) I had lasted long and at start I am on the fearful but then as soon as I feel like I can trust the other person I become more on the anxious side, also maybe the fact that I've seen my mother so much hurt doesn't help cuz I probably unconsciously seek out people that are not gonna be there when I need their emotional support or that are fearful avoidant as well. Is that possible? The last guy I dated I think was fearful avoidant too, like I tend to stink onto the suffering on people cuz I feel like I can be loved if I can help ease their pain, if that makes sense...that also comes from the fact that I had to help my mother in those difficult times, I think. But I also see in myself a reflection of the worst traits of my father like the abusiveness, neglect and possession...so Ive always kept a distance between me and the people I love cuz I am really afraid that I become like him.... Cuz I know that the few people I let in I become like him... Or I have the urge, not that I am like him but I become really abusive at least emotionally... I'm really scared of that part of me cuz maybe I won't be able to understand and accept it and I will find myself abuse others or being abused again, I don't want that....
@heathercruz8282
@heathercruz8282 3 жыл бұрын
Great that you're taking notice self awareness my is need.. boyfriend grow up similar situations he's 60 just figure it out just make sure keep people you love that you are ware working on it ..i think my boyfriend change now because he's grandfather 👴 good luck
@queenicole
@queenicole 2 жыл бұрын
I love you Thais ❤️
@bogdanafilonich33
@bogdanafilonich33 3 жыл бұрын
All my " relationships lasted 3 months....then something happens and boom...we are done
@kianabrown4430
@kianabrown4430 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you have answered this question before, but what about fearful avoidants that were raised by care givers who weren’t necessarily dealing with “violence” in the household or mood swings/addictions?
@tequilabumbum4373
@tequilabumbum4373 4 жыл бұрын
Khiana Brown maybe you went to a painful breakup, where your partner left you unexpectedly? This happened to me, and made a big trauma and fear of abandonment...
@waynepolo6193
@waynepolo6193 2 жыл бұрын
It’s called ‘childhood emotional neglect.’ “Addiction” is just any compulsive, self-destructive coping mechanism. Parental neglect from them staying busy through work or some other form of escape is fundamentally no different.
@cheryl5925
@cheryl5925 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sadly in the middle of a divorce with someone that has an attachment disorder. I was never informed of his past until it was too late. We made it about 2.5 years before he decided things were not just going to work. I have dealt with a lot of his fearfulness throughout our 4 years together and i wish I knew more about it from the start but unfortunately here we are. I am still willing to try and make it work but I just don’t know what to say to him as he will not admit or accept that he has this disorder. He was in therapy when he was younger but stopped around the age of 16. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I’m just looking for some guidance when I interact with him so I don’t push him further away. I should include that he has moved on to another relationship but I fear he is simply repeating his past relationships.
@addtoit
@addtoit 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have found this video two weeks ago any suggestions now that we're split?
@nachogoatcheese1761
@nachogoatcheese1761 3 жыл бұрын
In therapy they tell us to stop trying to read people's feelings and cater to their (unstated) needs. I was like "but how"? People seem to expect it though. Even where I hadn't been doing it and caught myself and tried to quit.
@kondycs
@kondycs 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible, that even if one of the parents was relatively consistent, the other wasn't, therefore the child still doesn't know if his\her emotional needs will be meet? (Therefore become a FA?) Let's say (totally not my story of course), that there was a divorce and the child lives with her mother. The mother is relatively warm and consistent, and her father can be also warm but sometimes he bursts out of anger, yelling, etc (not consistent). Is it possible, that although the child only meets her father every 2nd weekend, even her mother is consistent, the damage are still done?
@maureenponderosa1904
@maureenponderosa1904 Жыл бұрын
You’ve just described how most every significant relationship I’ve ever had goes. And then ends. Throw in consistently dating DAs and you’ve got yourself a train wreck. If only just realizing this pattern was how to fix it…how do you stop doing something that’s the only thing you know how to do?? What a nightmare.
@BigKatz
@BigKatz Жыл бұрын
story o' my life: 41 years in 14 mins
@zisandelemkhize6841
@zisandelemkhize6841 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like I'm a fearful avoidant many of the people I know describe me as "private" which lines up to what you say. But I'm stuck when it comes to relationships I can't even bring myself to go on a date or look at someone or make eye contact. Yes I want that connection but the thought of being with someone that likes me back scares me so much. Where do I even start to fix this?
@mindfulmeaningfulmoments247
@mindfulmeaningfulmoments247 4 жыл бұрын
Start small. I can relate to so much of what you said being that I am FA myself. I often find myself alone. I've never been in a serious relationship and dates are few and far between...ha! I used to have a hard time making eye contact. Even that felt scary to me! But the more I do it and find that it is safe the more comfortable I feel! Then as the next step start smiling when you make eye contact. Once you are comfortable with that start small talk... That's where I am at right now...eek! So far my experiences have been positive which provides a healthier narrative for me. I'm learning to trust myself more and feel more confident. You were born to be seen, heard, and understood so put yourself out there and the right people will come along. 🥰
@zaneliu
@zaneliu 4 жыл бұрын
I relate generally more to the anxious preoccupied/secure, but I also really related to this video. Wonder why?
@skwerl81
@skwerl81 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can potentially be fearful avoidant but lean towards the anxious side as opposed to the avoidant side
@skwerl81
@skwerl81 4 жыл бұрын
@GG T87 yes, true! I guess since he said he generally feels more on the anxious side, I didn't interpret it as being related to a specific relationship. But that could definitely be the case as well - if the partner is more avoidant, an FA would definitely show up as more anxious
@dgtv71
@dgtv71 3 жыл бұрын
Thais, I have a few questions, is there an email where I could reach you?
@jenniferjanvrin8961
@jenniferjanvrin8961 2 жыл бұрын
I am so needing your help. I've never known I was fearful avoidant until my fiance and I started to talk. I've had so many problems with my life. Please help me. I don''t have a lot of money. How can I get more help. I've been listening to ALL your videos.
@violetsky__7649
@violetsky__7649 4 жыл бұрын
How can I get a scholarship to this online program?
@ST-xs1bg
@ST-xs1bg 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. It sounds more like you are talking about the AA? A little confusing.
@ilovemytwins7342
@ilovemytwins7342 4 жыл бұрын
If a person perhaps learned to be a dismissive avoidant for the first years of their life, and then sporadic abuse started around age 6 or 7, would that person then develop fearful avoidant strategies, or would they still be DA, or now would they be a blend of the two?
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
Well, considering what big trauma would have had to happen to make them dismissive, if you add abuse to that as well, they would most likely just become extremely dismissive avoidant
@shaheera6362
@shaheera6362 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is the most accurate test which I can take to know my attachment style? I've taken a few online & the results are not always consistent. Thanks.
@toninatoli
@toninatoli 4 жыл бұрын
Thais has a quiz on her website - PersonalDevelopmentSchool.com
@shaheera6362
@shaheera6362 4 жыл бұрын
@@toninatoli Thank you
@mrsrockbison
@mrsrockbison 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a FA that dated a DA (i usually date DA, or FAs). During that relationship I experienced sexual trauma and also a lot of shutting down my needs, my personality, people pleasing. Did not love the DA bt did not feel that I was worthy of more or asking for what I needed. How to I let go of that guilt, shame and resentment of being in that relationship.
@mrsrockbison
@mrsrockbison 4 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatykitten so sorry that you went through that. Childhood abuse and core wounds are hard but I have hope that with the right tools I will eventually move to secure relationship. I felt with all my partners unworthy, unsafe, pleasing their needs, need to be quiet and conform to their needs for fear of abandonment, judgment and fear of being alone. So any issues in the relationship (emotional, psychological) I would just ignore including the sexual abuse. Felt powerless like during my childhood because I never felt that I mattered. Always felt that was something wrong with me, that's why they were treating me that way and if I asked for anything it will be too much and they will leave me 😞
@jclyntoledo
@jclyntoledo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alphacentauri819 Same but still working on expressing and awknowledging all my needs. It feels very vulnerable and uncomfortable and I haven't been able to do it consistently or without distancing first for a few days then bringing it up.
@DebbiePearsonCoach
@DebbiePearsonCoach 3 жыл бұрын
Working towards becoming an exFA but not there yet. You mentioned checking in with your partner weekly or whatever to see if everything‘s OK, but what do you do when he says it is. But you still see him distancing himself. To try to find proof of the opposite I went and looked at text messages over the past month. Where he used to send a lot of affectionate emojis I only found one. One in a month. How do you approach a DA who tells you nothings wrong but obviously there is?
@jclyntoledo
@jclyntoledo 3 жыл бұрын
I would bring it up like Oh you used to send a lot of emojis and write more I noticed you haven't and this could just be me but feel like something changed here. Is there a reason for this?.. Idk I had something similar when someone started doing voice clips and stopped and he said it had nothing to do with our connection. I did explain to him I notice ppl's behaviors and when they change it makes me feel like there's a shift in our relationship and idk how to process that. Anyways it helped me 🥰
@tiffanyshaving9493
@tiffanyshaving9493 4 жыл бұрын
How do I apply for a scholarship?
@lilliankillian7366
@lilliankillian7366 4 жыл бұрын
I think my bf is this eay.Do they know they are like this. I want to help him
@AshleyLebedev
@AshleyLebedev 3 жыл бұрын
Thais have you ever met someone who tests as secure but everything they do is dismissive avoidant in actual practice and they think nothing is wrong?
@bink865
@bink865 2 жыл бұрын
My ex is like this due to terrible events in his life. But there's nothing I can do apart from wish him well. Sad
@tequilabumbum4373
@tequilabumbum4373 3 жыл бұрын
Is it posible to become an FA, because the father was verbally abusive and never meeting my needs as a child, and my mom was overprotective and over giving, overcompensating and always meeting my needs. Would that create this unpredictability too? Or it has nothing to do with my mom, just with my father being abusive?
@pandazuki5741
@pandazuki5741 3 жыл бұрын
It was the same combination for me (together with the pressure to get good grades/achieve sth) and I think it definitely fostered insecurities (mom) and self-doubt/hate (dad) which fit with some of the core wounds in an FA, which she talked about in another video. I think my inner critic sounds very similar to my father, like how stupid can you be etc.
@srmillard
@srmillard 3 жыл бұрын
Is fearful avoidant (in your videos) the same as disorganized attachment? Thanks
@kittykat.88
@kittykat.88 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@cesterjr
@cesterjr 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I really wish she would stop sinking my battleship.
@shaeb2315
@shaeb2315 3 жыл бұрын
I'm AP and My FA broke off our ”friendship” relationship back to friends only after I texted him about our attachment styles. He was offended but I tried to explain it's not offensive but helpful for us both. We were going to meet to discuss in detail and smooth things over but he told me he was out and ignored my text messages to interact that night. I discovered he was on match.com and home. I lost it and told him to F Off, blocked him for three days before I unblocked him. Only to find he has blocked me. I sent an apology note week one and since we've had no contact of 3 weeks. He leaves for overseas for 3 weeks, do I wait for his return to make contact? Is this something we can reconcile? He also I believe blames me that I'm the problem. Help 🆘 , please?
@welutha
@welutha 3 жыл бұрын
Why wait for somebody who clearly is not ready for clear, adult communication and straight up lied to you? Your first gut reaction to disconnect from him was ok. Clearly you don't trust him, why else would you be checking up on his word? I would focus on figuring out why you still feel the need to connect despite this lack of trust and why you feel so guilty about someone else ignoring you and lying to you. Understanding this will help you to stay calmer and prevent you from "losing it" in the future.
@kgmfencing9835
@kgmfencing9835 4 жыл бұрын
I am going through a breakup with an FA. She left me 6 times in 2018/2019 and came back within 2 to 4 weeks everytime apart from one time where she didn't come back for 4 months. This time she left in December over something so petty. I kept begging and pleading for 2 months. Been no contact 4 weeks and haven't heard a thing. I've heard through the grapevine she still loves me and missed me but has accepted we don't work and is moving on. She doesn't know she is FA and won't accept she is carrying a lot of trauma from her childhood. I give up. Begging and pleading doesn't work. No contact doesn't work 🙄😢
@husseinfaiz3397
@husseinfaiz3397 4 жыл бұрын
What are tjings that triggered her.
@zaan619
@zaan619 4 жыл бұрын
Don't give up! I wish my girl didn't give up.
@kgmfencing9835
@kgmfencing9835 4 жыл бұрын
@@zaan619 I have given up and had to. Haven't heard from her since February.
@zaan619
@zaan619 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgmfencing9835 you've every right to. Forgive her & Good luck!
@Heidys_autodetail
@Heidys_autodetail 4 жыл бұрын
You need to fix your microphone. It’s doesn’t sound too good. Other than that. Great content.
@jerrykasinger8621
@jerrykasinger8621 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo! It's like she knows me Lol
@monkeybone6843
@monkeybone6843 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel like I’ll never be able to be in a relationship with someone I’m genuinely in love with.
@zz-t8109
@zz-t8109 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@pheonixrising3957
@pheonixrising3957 4 жыл бұрын
🤔hmmm... ya knooo...
@hunterkarr
@hunterkarr 4 жыл бұрын
I’m an FA man married to (what I assume is) a securely attached woman. She is the rock of our family but really doesn’t understand my neurosis at all so there’s this strange disconnect. I would love to hear you thoughts on this pairing.
@officiallydenise
@officiallydenise 4 жыл бұрын
Im a secure attached women dating an FA and he recently told me we don’t understand each other. He says I just assume things about him and I admit I did... I try not to do that now, but still, we don’t seem to ever understand each other in almost anything - almost as if we speak different languages. And yes I feel the disconnect. It’s so frustrating. Especially because you want it to work out. I would say the best thing would be therapy together but I don’t know that he would be willing.
@hunterkarr
@hunterkarr 4 жыл бұрын
@@officiallydenise thanks for replying. Be patient. I've enjoyed learning about this paradigm from Thais's channel. It's helped me understand that I am sort of actually "the problem"; and that's a big step. I've noticed that I habitually push people away in order to feel safe. I am experimenting with some techniques (breath counting/meditation) to draw closer to my wife and kids and be more present (practicing approach behaviors). Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!
@welutha
@welutha 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an FA. I spent 9 years with a guy who seemed to be a secure person, kind, reliable and understanding. Yet all the time I felt that something was missing and towards the end was really depressed. Some time ago I stumbled uppon Alan Robarge's channel on youtube and watched his video on "being nice" as a form of emotial unavailibility. Suddenly everything became clear - I was in a relationship with a very nice DA who hid his true feelings behind his niceness. I tried communicating my feelings, he said he understands yet there was no curiosity in him, no emotional response to what I was saying. He never shared any of his fears or worries, and for the longest time I assumed it was because he did not have any, was just a super chill, calm person. And then his brother almost died and I realized in terror how completely disconnected from his feelings he'd been all the time. I felt duped and silly for not noticing that all these years there was no emotional connection between us. Hope that's not the case for you.
@hunterkarr
@hunterkarr 3 жыл бұрын
@@welutha i so much appreciated this response. I would say no, but it has crossed my mind. She can be quite emotional and expressive and can definitely cry. I came out DA-37%/FA-37%. So sometimes i feel like a DA person and disconnected from my feelings. I think she just doesn't have time for insecurity or negative thinking (and i can't say i blame her).
@welutha
@welutha 3 жыл бұрын
@@hunterkarr well, as a neurotic myself, I would feel terribly dismissed, unheard and misunderstood if somehow I got the message that my negative feelings seem like a waste of time to my partner. My feelings are my feelings and true empathy means to me seeing all feelings as important, even if they are coming from a wounded or irrational place. I learned that the hard way, when dealing with a loved one in psychosis.Maybe this experience gave me unrealistic expectations for connection. If I, with all my neuroses, can connect with a person whose feelings are caused by delusions and hallucinations, why would an emotionally mature partner have problems understanding my more mundane worries and fears? Maybe secure people are just wired differently and their brains simply aren't able to process pain like ours do?
@crazzzeeej
@crazzzeeej 3 жыл бұрын
Just went through 9 months of Hell with an FA...always pulling away and unable to commit with her emotions. She was constantly looking for faults, even admitting she didn't trust me. I searched my Godheart and my Godmind for something that I did against her and have come up with nothing. I was fully healed and seeking deep love and commitment when I met her. She has destroyed everything I attempted to build. Terribly sad.
@Day2Night_
@Day2Night_ 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t take it personal, she’s going through her own battles. Unfortunately, it was a missed opportunity
@crazzzeeej
@crazzzeeej 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nia. That relationship hurt because I gave so much and received so little. To help her along her journey, I sent a list of 50 questions, to which she would have had to answer positively, that showed her she has fearful avoidant tendencies. She never replied. Lol. I know by watching her activity on the dating site we met that she is in and out of relationships...so miserably sad for her. I gave so much and received so little.
@calistar9444
@calistar9444 Жыл бұрын
@@crazzzeeej I'm currently going through hell with a FA partner to whom I gave so much and received so little. He was constantly looking for faults too, and even when he didn't find any, he still wasn't satisfied. He loved me, but he said he felt no spark, and the feelings "quickly faded". He said I did nothing wrong too - "never", in fact. "You've been nothing but supportive, and loving, and putting in so much effort." He knows he's FA, but isn't willing to do anything about it at the moment. Are you doing much better now, Jason? I sincerely hope so. I hope you found someone better who is treating you with the same amount of love you give them. I hope I find the same. 😔
@crazzzeeej
@crazzzeeej Жыл бұрын
@@calistar9444 God Bless you. It's been a long time since that trainwreck was in my life. Lol. I'm fantastic and always dating. No one super special yet! Hang in there and don't settle. And, for God's sake don't take that person back...those are damaged goods!
@calistar9444
@calistar9444 Жыл бұрын
@@crazzzeeej Glad to hear you're doing much better, Jason. I hope to one day refer to this guy as a trainwreck as well and be able to laugh about it.
@isaiahaskew5753
@isaiahaskew5753 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh it feels impossible to fix
@alexisjadesvlogs
@alexisjadesvlogs 4 жыл бұрын
anyone here who's FA willing to answer my question? id love to hear from the prospective of a fellow FA. I am mainly a secure attachment style but my ex (Broke up with me 3 weeks ago) if FA without knowing it. She definitely has all the tell tale signs. The stress of corona virus and sudden change to her lifestyle really I think triggered her flight or fight response. She began having insane doubts about the relationship that were never there before (we dated 2 months and never had any problems, great relationship). Within a week she went from loving me so much to saying "this relationship just isn't right for me. I feel guilty for needing space. I still love you but I'm not happy". ive been in no contact for a little over 3 weeks now and was wondering if I should be the one to reach out to her? I have a strong feeling that this time in no contact will allow her to move past the initial feelings of doubt/overhwhelm and start to miss the affection and relationship (as ive learned FA typically do). But I also heard that they typically will not reach out even if they ended it, because they fear rejection and they need validation that you've changed (which I have done a lot of self work and research on FA attachment styles.) so just wondering if anyone has any advise? Id really appreciate any insight!
@kweisgerber
@kweisgerber 4 жыл бұрын
Way Haught You just called her doubts insane. Let her go. Maybe look into your own attachment style because it doesn’t seem like you are as secure as you seem to believe.
@lulus3041
@lulus3041 4 жыл бұрын
Just be consistent and let her know you are there for her without pushing too much. Imagine as someone who has some kind of phobia, need time to process her own feelings, but at the same time if we exceed too much time without no contact we will be scare of be rejected when we come back. As a FA and a woman if a man shows me he is consistent and dont push too much or too less I will be enough secure to come back. Every person is different but in my case I am looking for someone who can be consistent and give me the security that wont reject me when I will start showing my truself.
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if that seems like avoidant behavior as much as it seems like she just wasn't that into you. You only dated for two months, and that's hardly long enough to develop real love for one another, so maybe once the infatuation wore off, she just didn't think you two were a good fit together. Sorry, it just happens so often like that when dating, it seems a more plausible reason.
@kimberlykimmons
@kimberlykimmons 4 жыл бұрын
Question: Can you tell your partner that you believe they’re fearful avoidant?
@cinneadken
@cinneadken 4 жыл бұрын
I have debated this too, but their nature might tend to make them resist, I guess, and make them feel like you're manipulating them? I tried suggesting we go to therapy together once and she said she was fine, nothing wrong with her - in FA denial
@skwerl81
@skwerl81 4 жыл бұрын
Fearful avoidants actually tend to be very motivated by personal development and growth. I genuinely believe it's all about the way that you approach it. Perhaps instead of telling them that statement directly, you could present a video to the other person and approach it in a more curious or inquisitive way rather than making them feel attacked. Like "oh I came across XYZ, do you relate to this at all? ... something like that :)
@kgmfencing9835
@kgmfencing9835 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck. My ex... In her eyes... Had no issues.. Secure.... She is an extreme FA. she had an alcoholic father and a very tough and trauma filled childhood. I tried approaching her and explaining things but she reacted angrily and like I was just putting her down. She won't even try to acknowledge. It's all my fault we don't work.... Apparently she will be happy with someone else.... I doubt it... She will still be an FA and still have all the childhood trauma until she deals with it. I give up.
@skwerl81
@skwerl81 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgmfencing9835 I hear you, it's rough when others are not willing to see
@johnhatton730
@johnhatton730 4 жыл бұрын
Im an FA and like logic. I would not mind if someone told me about this. But maybe bring it up from an intelectual point of view. I can go Da from time to time and I like to understand why i feel the way that I do
@cinneadken
@cinneadken 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that no contact won't work with an FA ex. We broke up a few weeks ago (including 10 days of me doing the begging/pleading routine), I'm Anxious, she's Fearful Avoidant. I understand my anxiety is trying to get me I need to tell her how much I love her and will support her but I'm holding back so I don't smother again during the initial relief phase. But that said, I also feel if I don't reach out at some point, she'll reach the "I knew my partner/caregiver would abandon me, as usual" mindset. Before we went no contact, I told her explicitly in my final text that I wouldn't abandon her, but I'm sure it was read as more pleading by me. I said I'd stay quiet/no comms for 30 days, then reach out and see how she is - and then if she still feels the same, I said I'll step back. I'm scared that during this 30 days she will still subconsciously feel I left her as previous caregivers did (she's adopted, bad adoption family story - father left, mother physically abusive - and a 7 yr phys/emotionally abusive marriage in her 30s. She has one son who she worships as her heart). Should I maintain no contact and risk her feeling like her Fearful Avoidant experience is being fulfilled, or should I try to reach out and say I'm not trying to force us back together to retry necessarily, but that I will continue to be available for her for anything she wants to talk about. Of course I fear her telling me it's absolutely, definitely over as a FA defense mechanism to push me away completely if I do reach out, and I fear her further distancing her heart from the relationship if I don't... Ugh! :)
@kgmfencing9835
@kgmfencing9835 4 жыл бұрын
I am going through exactly the same. She left me 6 times in 2018/2019 and came back within 4 weeks everytime apart from one time where she didn't come back for 4 months. This time she left in December over something so petty. I kept begging and pleading for 2 months. Been no contact 4 weeks and haven't heard a thing. I've heard through the grapevine she still loves me and missed me but has accepted we don't work and is moving on. She doesn't know she is FA and won't accept she is carrying a lot of trauma from her childhood. I give up. Begging and pleading doesn't work. No contact doesn't work 🙄😢
@johnhatton730
@johnhatton730 4 жыл бұрын
Im FA and I do come back. I just need time to process and look at the situation objectively. We don’t forget about the person. Hope this helps.
@MrTheomighty1
@MrTheomighty1 4 жыл бұрын
John Hatton I’ve just taken the quiz and it’s comeback as I’m of the anxious type, my current ex partner still called me baby and beautiful in her final communication with me to which I read and then went straight into NC and have been for 10 days now, she wanted to remain friends which I told her I couldn’t do as I only Want a relationship with you, I’ve not deleted her from any social media site or deleted her communication to which I can still see she says baby I think I need to be on my own as she’s dealing with her elderly parents throughout this pandemic, we’ve not seen each other for 12 weeks and we kept it going for as long as we could. I used to be a needy guy doing all of the begging, pleading, crying, even driving past my ex’s homes, but with this lovely little lady I still see her as I want to make a go and of it still with her, I so want to reach out to her to let her know I still want her but as she broke us off I feel it’s upto her to come to me when she’s ready and that this time apart will give her some time to think maybe if I just ask for space he’s willing to give me that time rather than walk away, but we have to work together if it’s going to last. When we first got together she kept saying are you mine forever she told me she loved me, when we went out she’d pay for everything so I had to arrive earlier to pay for things, when I first saw her I knew she was the one and this was without us every interacting, I’m not sure tho if she is the fearful or avoidant type as she’s very close to being on the border of the 2...
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgmfencing9835 So, did you ever hear from her at all, or did she just stay gone like my FA did?
@2KChilds
@2KChilds 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgmfencing9835 My ex would regularly disappear for weeks at a time. We hadn't fought, he didn't bring anything up, just arbitrarily, unilaterally decided it was over, shut down, and refused to reply to texts, calls, or knocks on his door. The longest he was gone was 2 1/2 months last year before he just popped up out of nowhere. It lasted for a few months then he disappeared again after V-day this year so It's been over 4 months now and I've been doing the work to get over him. He's the manager of an electronics store. About a month ago, my PC crashed so I took it back to his store to be repaired. I was there a while and at some point he walked over to a counter nearby. When I looked over at him, he made eye contact and he just looked right through me, like I didn't exist, then turned and walked away. It completely crushed me, his coldness and not feeling any signs of the love he once felt. It affected me so deeply, about a week later, I left a letter on his door telling him that I understood he struggled with anxiety and depression at times, and if that was the reason he pulled away to please talk to me because I still loved him and only wanted to be by his side while he worked on being the healthiest version of himself he could be. That I believed in him, in us, and to please not throw away 4 years due to fear or feeling unworthy or too hard to love. A few days later, the night before my birthday, he sent a text saying "Stop. You can't just drop by and leave me a letter. I understand you're worried about me. Fine, but it's uninvited and inappropriate. Sorry if it's mean but I assure you, I put much thought into it." I haven't contacted him again, and don't plan to. If he hates me that much, I don't need him in my life. I want to try and get over him but it's hard when you have no idea why you just lost someone you loved 4 years. Basically, the man I loved is gone, so I've decided to simply mourn the loss of him the same as when someone I love has died. Remember the good times, and be thankful for the time you had together, but move on with life with the painful knowledge he won't be a part of it anymore. Sad thing is, I have to go back to pick up my pc once it's fixed. Hopefully, he'll be busy elsewhere and I won't have to see him standing there like a ghost from the past.
@anujsehgal7576
@anujsehgal7576 4 жыл бұрын
Where u live will I send 🐉 for you to pick u up
@Minimeowzilla
@Minimeowzilla 2 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who's afraid that Thais would spill that water bottle with all her gesturing lol
@swizzleshinby309
@swizzleshinby309 3 жыл бұрын
I think.this girl that I was curious about may be FA. I feel shes breadcrumbing
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