What Makes Anime Great and why Hollywood Ruins it

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In preparation for their next anime-style short film, Sam and Niko compare classic anime series' with their Hollywood adaptations. Where do the big-budget remakes fall short and where do they succeed?
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@OverlySarcasticProductions
@OverlySarcasticProductions Жыл бұрын
It almost feels like a lot of these adaptations don't know HOW to capture that Certain Something from the source material, and they're aware of that, so they purposefully compensate in ways that accidentally highlight their own issues. Cowboy Bebop does some interesting things with lighting and shadow and they TRY with the choreography, which even looks and feels solid in places - but it feels like they can't replicate the extremely dynamic *camera* and how it moves around in the fights and action scenes, so instead they just dutch angle it every couple of shots. Ghost in the Shell makes the colors dimmer and darker, and everything in the gunfire scene so dark you can't even see what's happening - which feels like cinematographic insecurity, like they HAVE to keep it dark because they don't think it looks good. The strength of animation is you can literally just draw anything and put the camera anywhere, and these adaptations feel like they're actively frustrated that they don't know how to do the same thing. -R
@tychoweijsters9673
@tychoweijsters9673 Жыл бұрын
Seeing you guys commenting is awesome. Love your stuff, you’re all amazing
@srsaito9262
@srsaito9262 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and in the Ghost in the Shell 1996 the fact that you can look the city very clearly is used in favor of the story, in how the personality of the character can't be found in this vast city.
@hariharpuri1362
@hariharpuri1362 Жыл бұрын
Love your animations and history videos ❤ and comedy Love you red and blue ❤
@covertcreator1174
@covertcreator1174 Жыл бұрын
Awesome seeing another one of my favorite channels here!
@apollolux
@apollolux Жыл бұрын
Beyond the "don't know how," it very much also feels like "don't even feel like trying." Back in the day, crews would literally invent ways to _make it happen_ if they didn't know how, and now other than very few specific companies like Weta or whatever they don't bother to put in effort.
@vanhawk8180
@vanhawk8180 Жыл бұрын
Hugo Weaving in V for vendetta is a prime example and one of the few where the protagonist never takes out his mask and still manage to convey all the feelings that pushes him forward
@orgANGmo
@orgANGmo Жыл бұрын
I rewatched it recently. Amazing how you know exactly what the character is feeling just watching his mask.
@haravikk
@haravikk Жыл бұрын
This was going to be my suggestion too; it's adapted from a graphic novel, and while it has its flaws I think on the whole it's *extremely* well done, as Weaving absolutely nailed the acting in a mask, and in a way we do get a kind of inner monologue/narration at times but delivered as conversations to others (predicting future events that then play out etc.). There are also a lot of style shots purely for the flare of it and also for dramatic effect and many of these use slow motion, but not for dodging. And of course it's from the Wachowski siblings, so it has a lot of that Matrix energy. Also I might be *slightly* biased because I bought one of the production grade fibre-glass masks, a proper replica hat, tracked down a wig with the correct styling, and memorised the entire "voila, in view a humble vaudevillian veteran" speech for a halloween costume one year… (note for others, you can get wasted *real* fast when you're drinking through a straw, so take care!)
@reaganmonkey8
@reaganmonkey8 Жыл бұрын
Plus you would expect them to use Hugo Weaving‘ stave in marketing, as he is so famous.
@nathanmagro1
@nathanmagro1 Жыл бұрын
Karl Urban in Dredd too.
@apoclypse
@apoclypse Жыл бұрын
The original actor who was supposed to play V actually complained that he couldn't show his face in the movie and I believe that's why he got replaced by Weaving. The actor completely missed the point of the character and the ambiguity he was supposed to convey due to his ego. A lot of times the actors agents will put that in the contract. Especially in high budget movies. If they are paying $10-20 million to the actor they want that face in the movie.
@flamingburritto
@flamingburritto Жыл бұрын
"people in hollywood hate putting masks on people" THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. Cuz one of the best examples of this is Dredd. In the whole movie you dont see his face and yet you feel every emotion every beat, every sequence PERFECTLY.
@tiacool7978
@tiacool7978 Жыл бұрын
I think it's because they spend so much money on getting the actor. Not to mention, they probably don't trust people to recognize the actor if their face is covered. I was watching "Somebody's Watching Me" the other day. And there were so many comments of people who just weren't sure if it was Michael Jackson on the chorus. So while it is a bit different in a visual medium, the concern is still a real possibility. Still, I'd rather the movie try to be as faithful as possible to the source material.
@theonlymegumegu
@theonlymegumegu Жыл бұрын
i remember being so happy when the film finished and they never took off his helmet
@toadwine7654
@toadwine7654 Жыл бұрын
@@tiacool7978 its crazy how many times the trust american executives dont have in people lead to weird decicions. its almost uniqely tied to americans too for some reason
@KhairulFadzlyAKarim
@KhairulFadzlyAKarim Жыл бұрын
Dredd is best, I hope they do more with the Angels or the Death Judges.
@JoseLuisLazcanoLeal
@JoseLuisLazcanoLeal Жыл бұрын
Another good example is V for Vendetta.
@zuqini
@zuqini Жыл бұрын
Shao Lin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle are the 2 films I remember that felt the closest to genuine anime scenes and they really captured my imagination. Would love to hear you guys’ opinion on their CG. They really felt miles ahead of their time!
@potatochan8985
@potatochan8985 Жыл бұрын
all Stephen Chow works really near with anime live action should have
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 Жыл бұрын
i watched one recently, Fist of Fury , kinda hard to find, that is basically iron fist/one punch man, he is a farmer with an absurdly strong left punch but, no skill
@alphadream953
@alphadream953 Жыл бұрын
his other movie journey to the west also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ranwo9270
@ranwo9270 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact : Inazuma Eleven was actually inspire by Shao Lin Soccer
@bendingsands87
@bendingsands87 Жыл бұрын
Mmm those two are so great.
@xSkylar64
@xSkylar64 Жыл бұрын
I know its not technically an anime adaption but I think Bullet Train achieves the look and feel of anime in live action.
@Bryal
@Bryal Жыл бұрын
reminded me of the Baccano! anime
@samjaneannie5831
@samjaneannie5831 Жыл бұрын
YES-it’s so absurd but in the best possible way
@TheLoserface45
@TheLoserface45 Жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of good anime-esc movies but not many good live action adaptations. And I think a lot of it is bc the animation itself is so integral to the show’s personality.
@mymomsbasement69
@mymomsbasement69 Жыл бұрын
Well it doesn't help when the actresses and show runners maliciously attack the fans because they're completely abandoning the source material. Critical Drinker covers this very well.
@aldiansyahwahfi
@aldiansyahwahfi Жыл бұрын
@@TheVinster how is it bad?
@InfiniteBooshorama
@InfiniteBooshorama Жыл бұрын
Scott Pilgrim while not an anime is still a good example of style that serves to emphasize action and characters imo. I’d love to see the crew give this treatment to Speed Racer and Alita Battle Angel though
@mrfacestab5758
@mrfacestab5758 Жыл бұрын
Edgar Wright, Lana and Lilly Wachowski, and Robert Rodriguez and James Cameron did something good. Even Bullet Train feels like anime-like.
@FuzzyDlop
@FuzzyDlop Жыл бұрын
@@mrfacestab5758 There's nothing anime like, it's just feels "out of Japan" because is the adaptation of a japanese novel.
@wtfsalt
@wtfsalt Жыл бұрын
Scott Pilgrim takes direct inspiration from the beats of the comic, and it shows
@theninjamaster67
@theninjamaster67 Жыл бұрын
@@wtfsalt It takes so much inspiration that they filmed in all the actual locations the graphic novel based it's locations on and not only that but there's many many times in the movie where you can take that same scene in the original put em side by side and they look exactly the same THIS is how adaptation should be done take the strong points of the original and just do that but in live action and if it's possible to replicate the scene exactly then just do it the original is beloved for a reason. The entire point of an adaptation is bringing something good to a new audience not changing said thing till it's unrecognizable I just wish studios would realize this.
@marsmugio
@marsmugio Жыл бұрын
@@wtfsalt in terms of the style, yes. Everything else is a different case tho, as the movie started being worked on when the comics first came out, so the movies development actually inspired stuff in the books and vice versa
@undead_corsair
@undead_corsair Жыл бұрын
Scott Pilgrim vs The World might be the best live action anime adaptation that isn't actually an anime adaptation, but it does use a lot of elements from manga and anime thanks to its comic book basis that translate from page to film quite well. It does also help that it was a comedy and that Bryan Lee O'Malley had a great sense of humor that Edgar Wright seemed to understand perfectly.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Жыл бұрын
Sin City and Sucker Punch, while not perfect, did a good job at the visual part, they looked like a noir comic or an anime come to life.
@conservativegamer9047
@conservativegamer9047 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@nitramdh
@nitramdh Жыл бұрын
I think a very good example of an actual Anime adaptation is "The Edge of Tomorrow" adapted from "All you need is kill". I know it has flaws here and there, but the pacing and characters build up is really nice.
@LoyalTC
@LoyalTC Жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 I agree sucker punch only really lacked on the story but visuals are amazing
@vinnyholiday9739
@vinnyholiday9739 Жыл бұрын
My favorite scene is Lucas Lee starting his run towards Scott. Very stylish very anime. They convey motion so badass in that film
@brettcoster4781
@brettcoster4781 Жыл бұрын
Alita: Battle Angel would be a great film to discuss. You've done a smallish bit on it before but that was only about Alita's big anime eyes rather than anything else the film did. It was a really great anime adaption (of the short OVA) and otherwise a comprehensive manga adaptation. Would love to see anything you guys think about Alita.
@LoyalTC
@LoyalTC Жыл бұрын
Alita was amazing
@MoeruHoeru
@MoeruHoeru Жыл бұрын
the only that ruined alita for me was that generic teenage love plot 🥲🥲
@kgoblin5084
@kgoblin5084 Жыл бұрын
@@MoeruHoeru That was in the original manga & OVA as well. But it worked better for a couple of reasons. In the manga, it serves 2 important functions... A) it establishes Alita core principles, going from a moon-eyed teenage girl to a stubborn young woman who will never compromise on her principles B) it establishes a contrast between being that moon-eyed young naif & the bad-ass topple-the-system living macguffin she is later. The thing to bear in mind though is the manga has the narrative runway to tell that story without it being cheesy... which video & animation just DON'T, because they're time constrained by nature. The other thing with both the manga & OVA was that they ameliorated the saccharin of the love story with gory, gory ultra-violence... that generic love story between Alita & Hugo is a lot less aggravating when Alita is literally splattering brains against the wall, & Hugo ripping out spines isn't bowdlerized. Heck, the generic teenage love plot becomes the anchor of normalcy at that point. Which kind of tells you what I found lacking in the Rodriguez film :/. Lack of gore for Hollywood/Western sensibilities sacrificed a lot of the original aesthetic & tone, making it both too clean & less tragic, sadly emphasizing the goofy.
@hehashivemind6111
@hehashivemind6111 Жыл бұрын
Alita was fucking incredible and I wish the film came out with the full 16:9 scan in theaters instead of the super wide screen, cuz the 16:9 was in IMAX but you have to pirate it to get that aspect ratio since they decided to go with the theatrical for the 4k bluray.
@philliphansen9096
@philliphansen9096 Жыл бұрын
i would have liked alita more if it followed the manga and not the OVA, they changed so many things like how alita came to be in the scrapyard, desty nova is the villain in the shadows running the show and removing makaku (who introduces desty) entirely due to the ova setting, not to mention motorball seemed to be a forced inclusion when it should have been it's own arc. i waited for something like a decade for that movie and i didn't particularly like any of it, i like that others like it and they will hopefully read the source material, with any luck we will finally get a complete animated series that follows the manga like FMA:brotherhood
@Mtaalas
@Mtaalas Жыл бұрын
Great example of "we don't show actors face, but it's still amazing!" is Dredd :) Carl Urban kills it in that role.
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 Жыл бұрын
I think he threatened to leave the set when they tried to make him remove the helmet. He wanted to bring Dredd to the screen, not himself.
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 Жыл бұрын
V for Vendetta, where Hugo Weaving NEVER shows his face.
@diegopeart
@diegopeart Жыл бұрын
Excellent movie!
@BenjiSun
@BenjiSun Жыл бұрын
as did Lena Headey. Wow she was an incredible force in that movie.
@Zathren
@Zathren Жыл бұрын
@@BenjiSun Such a pretty face and it was a joy to see her execute the law.
@CullyColantino
@CullyColantino Жыл бұрын
Can we please get more Animators react to Anime?! We’ve been waiting over a year for more.
@MATMAP
@MATMAP Жыл бұрын
True!!
@WhoIsRaphaelLeraux
@WhoIsRaphaelLeraux Жыл бұрын
I'd definitely love to see some of the less action oriented anime like Makoto Shinkai's movies being covered. Those quiet environmental moments that build the scenes are so expertly executed.
@PowWowChikaBowWow6902
@PowWowChikaBowWow6902 Жыл бұрын
@@WhoIsRaphaelLerauxhat’d be awesome! They could also talk about some of the insane animations happening in Nichijou
@andykazoo
@andykazoo Жыл бұрын
React to SODAZ animations
@chenyanai8983
@chenyanai8983 Жыл бұрын
I was just rewatching that video today! We need more of those!
@XDWASDX
@XDWASDX Жыл бұрын
It’s really cool to see Corridor dissecting what separates anime from Hollywood style live action. I’d be really interested to hear more about the differences in the story boarding process.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 Жыл бұрын
a very common thing is that the director doesn't actually care about the source material and just have their own thing in mind instead.
@mr_e_mc2
@mr_e_mc2 Жыл бұрын
the slow motion on impact is like what they did in Dredd, and hell yes it worked sooooooo well to convey the extreme emotion of the split second action sequence turned into minutes of anguish and rage
@DavidConant
@DavidConant Жыл бұрын
At this point I’d love to see Corridor Crew try to recreate a scene from Cowboy Bebop in live action with the goal being to capture the style of the anime as discussed in the video.
@Veazeysbanjo
@Veazeysbanjo Жыл бұрын
I'm here to boost this idea
@syafiqazizan9417
@syafiqazizan9417 Жыл бұрын
I second this
@sylpisophia5612
@sylpisophia5612 Жыл бұрын
indeed! let's like and comment on this to get the attention!
@ryanhannapel1830
@ryanhannapel1830 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes
@ProxyDoug
@ProxyDoug Жыл бұрын
There's a fan film on KZfaq that nails the characters pretty well, and has a pretty good fight scene as well.
@RamiAbdulhai
@RamiAbdulhai Жыл бұрын
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@MrTidx90
@MrTidx90 Жыл бұрын
All the feels! I don't even speak the language but I'ma subscribe to you cus your energy is right 👌🏾🙏🏾
@EmlynPrice
@EmlynPrice Жыл бұрын
Inner monologue is one of my favourite features of the Dune books. It gives you fantastic insight into the thoughts of the characters that often can be displayed with physical movements
@bruhbruh4635
@bruhbruh4635 Жыл бұрын
Does the story gets better after the timeskip in book 1? The sudden timeskip ruined my immersion so I stop reading it.
@tylerjacobson8012
@tylerjacobson8012 Жыл бұрын
Inner monologue is less desirable in live action though. Film is a visual medium so exposition is better delivered visually. Exposition through monologue is needed more in the written world simply because there’s no visual language to use. Think of a lovecraft story. If you make a lovecraft movie you use those monologues as a blueprint to build the visuals off of.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 Жыл бұрын
@@tylerjacobson8012 anime also benefit from this a lot, but sadly they often don't take advantage of it because the source material used monologue/dialogue instead.
@jameswhatsit
@jameswhatsit Жыл бұрын
I think a Speed Racer was a grossly under appreciated faithful anime adaptation. The Wachofski’s nailed the way-too-dramatic over the top action scenes, as well as rageful-goon, backroom-villain and hero-flashback monologues.
@yellohammer8571
@yellohammer8571 Жыл бұрын
There was still the problem of whitewashing though... like in the live-action Dragon Ball movie, and of course, The Last Airbender.
@scruffy3121
@scruffy3121 Жыл бұрын
Kung fu Hustle is a great example for a anime style live Action movie done right.
@numrut96
@numrut96 Жыл бұрын
And Shaolin Soccer too
@scruffy3121
@scruffy3121 Жыл бұрын
Many people don't notice but for many characters they don't even tell you their names.
@Hevvvyyy
@Hevvvyyy Жыл бұрын
That movie rocks,I love the old couple lol they're great
@parkinsaw
@parkinsaw Жыл бұрын
Yep pretty much Stephen Chow has managed to pull it off effortlessly. (I also think Tarantino would probably be able to pull it off)
@FenrirLupo
@FenrirLupo Жыл бұрын
rurouni kenshin
@LaPollaAtomica
@LaPollaAtomica Жыл бұрын
I like American Psycho's business card scene as an example of an inner monologue and the same sort of techniques seen more commonly in anime. Patrick only has two lines of inner monologue, but they add a lot to the scene, especially when coupled with the overly dramatic shots and line readings of the actors. If they threw in a close up of Bateman's eyes going wide and wild with a music sting as he examines the last card and delivers his thoughts before finally being brought back to reality, it wouldn't feel out of place.
@joeysingingchannel
@joeysingingchannel Жыл бұрын
oh my god you're right.
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын
American Psycho is the best anime adaptation
@mimiru69
@mimiru69 Жыл бұрын
Also the scenes in Sin City. Film Noir movies have always relied heavily on Internal Monologues, and Sin City absolutely captured the feeling of the Comic with it's use of them.
@michaelbayley9432
@michaelbayley9432 Жыл бұрын
I just can’t unsee Paul Allen’s morning routine meme every time this movie is mentioned
@THEgameDeity
@THEgameDeity Жыл бұрын
Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas also has a bit of it as well.
@thomasdye7503
@thomasdye7503 Жыл бұрын
I think an important factor to mention when it comes to the internal monologue is that it has to be visually interesting or interactive because without it, it does come off as bad and cheap. The two examples of Deathnote and Sherlock Holmes y'all used are perfect examples. In the Tennis Deathnote scene it's as if they were talking to each other but with the added layer that neither of them knows what they other is thinking, giving us insight on how both the characters view themselves and eachother. And the more simple task of being visually interesting goes to Sherlock Holmes because they could of just had him say what he was gonna do and do it but each step is shown so we can fallow the process and then when the thought is complete the entire action is played in real time so we can feel the payoff. Problem is that somehow Hollywood makes billions but can't afford people to do these things cause they wanna play it safe.
@jordanlee8826
@jordanlee8826 Жыл бұрын
"People in Hollywood hate putting masks on characters" - This quote is super valid. One of the reasons why I thought judge Dredd was good, was due to the fact that they never showed his eyes. I wasn't relying on the character to tell me how to feel or perceive the story, I was depending on the overall evolving sequence of events and actions/choices he made.
@thanatos022
@thanatos022 Жыл бұрын
the ruroni kenshin series of movies is one of the best adaptation work I have ever seen, they manage to keep the aesthetics (costumes, hairdos, special attacks) but ground them in a more physically possible reality, the keep all the important parts of the saga they are covering, and get what they can't cover as background for the people that know it should be there, they are respectful to the original material not trying to make characters more "complex" or less "cartoony", even if the movies are themselves nothing that special, the adaptation work is top notch.
@oliverd.1458
@oliverd.1458 Жыл бұрын
This ⬆️
@DreadfulDawn
@DreadfulDawn Жыл бұрын
100% agree, the Ruroni Kenshin movies are by far the best movie adaptations ive seen
@Trinin
@Trinin Жыл бұрын
Just watched the first 3 and really enjoyed them because that's a genre that is solid and already established, samurai films.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda Жыл бұрын
It's worth mention that the actors and crews are experienced in tokusatsu series, they know how to make action scene look cinematic.
@spencerboyd8263
@spencerboyd8263 Жыл бұрын
I remember they replicated Kenshin's funny way of talking in the first movie and then they cut that out in the sequels. I'm glad they did, cuz it just wasn't working. It's fine in the anime, but live action not so much.
@theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436
@theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436 Жыл бұрын
Kung Fu Hustle does an incredible job of translating a lot of this style to live action. Also, if you haven’t seen Satoshi Kon’s work, definitely check it out. I’m assuming you dudes have seen all the Ghibli movies. The fight choreography in Sword of the Stranger is some of the best I’ve ever seen.
@nevermore1570
@nevermore1570 Жыл бұрын
Paranoia Agent is a great place to dip your toes in first
@ingeniuses2247
@ingeniuses2247 Жыл бұрын
I've loved to hear your take on the Live action Rurouni Kenshin movies starting from the one back in 2012. I personally enjoyed them a lot, but would like to hear and see what could have been better on those movies. In my opinion, the Rurouni Kenshin live action movies had great cinematography and definitely on top of my anime live adaptations. Great video guys!
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Жыл бұрын
Was looking in the comments for this. I second Rurouni Kenshin. I think it could stand alone as purely a live action film series and is still incredible to watch but I think they faithfully adapted the source material in a way that wasn't cringey at all. Amazing series.
@TheBlindmarvin
@TheBlindmarvin Жыл бұрын
Please do more of these! I know there aren’t a lot of anime to film adaptations (there are non-Hollywood ones too), but you could also do video game to film as well, with the same format. Loved this 👍🏻
@poipu425
@poipu425 Жыл бұрын
dredd was probably the best example of a comic book/anime live action adaptation. karl urban never takes his mask off which is very important because it is iconic to dredd's character. the action is concise, they tell a story with quick dialogue and of course there is over the top destruction fight scenes. if you haven't watched this, you should.
@VelocityZap
@VelocityZap Жыл бұрын
I agree
@steverogers8163
@steverogers8163 Жыл бұрын
its also the perfect example because you can directly compare it to Judge Dread with Stallone. Where he takes the helmet off after his first intro scene.
@eduardofernandes9881
@eduardofernandes9881 Жыл бұрын
Dredd is fucking amazing, everyone should watch it.
@arcturionblade1077
@arcturionblade1077 Жыл бұрын
As good as Karl Urban was, Lena Headey was also great as the main villain.
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Жыл бұрын
Technically Sin City was the best, it literally adapted panel to panel into movie scenes with the same style.
@BioshadowX
@BioshadowX Жыл бұрын
Live action Death Note had some legitimately good shots and moments and most of them were original! The problem was it tried to both tell it's own story and the original at the same time when it doesn't work. Either make a full adaptation or make an original story in the world and put all your effort into it.
@Shinesart
@Shinesart Жыл бұрын
And the most important thing about Death note live action is that Kira is not Kira if you know what I mean. He would not scream at the event he planned. He won't even bat an eye. That what makes most live action adaption fail. It doesn't understand the characters.
@BioshadowX
@BioshadowX Жыл бұрын
@@Shinesart I legitimately don't think it was trying to understand the characters because it was trying to tell it's own story with an American take. Which is fine! But then don't use Kira, L, etc. Like so many other shows these days it felt like someone skinsuiting a character, although at least in the Death Note world it works to have infintely many spinoffs that never cross over into the Kira/L battle because it doesn't need to
@Black_Panda95
@Black_Panda95 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. Like if they called it a Death Note story, a story set in the death note world. Rename the characters. Instead of Light Turner, call him Timmy Turner or something. Then I would not have had such a dislike for that movie when I first watched. When they make so many parallels to the OG content you can't help but compare it and that overall hurt the perception of it .
@Tabulatelk15
@Tabulatelk15 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese one was pretty good tho.
@SaHaRaSquad
@SaHaRaSquad Жыл бұрын
The universe would even allow an unlimited number of original stories, Kira is just one of an unspecified number of death note users. But no, they had to do a bad attempt at squeezing a 37-episode story into one movie.
@mayraartisa3004
@mayraartisa3004 Жыл бұрын
I don't think people gives enough credit to Niko and Sam here. They really are Masters in their own craft, the fact that they can say no pressure "I would've done this scene this way" shows. Incredible guys and just chilling here with us for fun, keeping the business and hanging with homies. Legends.
@llabronco
@llabronco Жыл бұрын
Love this new format of video from you guys, and would love to see you apply it to other semi-video-essay-style topics!
@Peranolde
@Peranolde Жыл бұрын
The Corridor team should check out 'Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken'. It's directed by Masaaki Yuasa ('The Night is Short, Walk On Girl', 'Lu Over the Wall', 'Devilman Crybaby') and is a true love letter to animation. It follows three girls who form a school club with the goal of making their own anime and delves into the techniques used by animators to make anime feel so impactful.
@BrowneePointz
@BrowneePointz Жыл бұрын
Seconded they need to watch Eizouken
@FineCurry
@FineCurry Жыл бұрын
I did not know Eizouken was Yuasa's but it totally makes sense. Another great one by Yuasa is Kaiba
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 Жыл бұрын
It's kinda childish and elevated realism, why go for that when you can be topically accurate and mention Bakuman. The Death Note authors wrote a story genuinely about getting into the actual manga industry and fighting the market pressure as a young professional. There's also film and anime adaptations. And straight drama about industry positions is pretty common in anime, like White Box and Hataraki Man and Barakamon and Sakura Quest and okay I shuold stop.
@kubo-samabanbankai562
@kubo-samabanbankai562 Жыл бұрын
I like how instead of counting the tatami galaxy first, you counted its spin off as among his most known work XD And instead of devilman and especially lu over the wall (which is neither that well known nor that criticially acclaimed) you should've counted ping pong the animation, kaiba or mind game.
@anmolsundaram1369
@anmolsundaram1369 Жыл бұрын
Dexter is one of the best examples on how to use internal monologue effectively in live actions
@MissMisnomer_
@MissMisnomer_ Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about the show, LOVED getting the chance to dive into his fucked up little brain and figure out how he works. They do a similar thing in "You", and it has a similar effect.
@jimmyobvious1651
@jimmyobvious1651 Жыл бұрын
Sin City was actually a pretty good live-action comic adaptation. It showed you could really amp up the stylization within live action and still get a result that was cohesive and had its own mood. Some of the characters are absolutely ridiculous but they built a world for them to live in, and the whole thing works. Most anime adaptations feel like cosplay conventions bled out onto a film set, which is really the crux of the problem.
@UnbeltedSundew
@UnbeltedSundew Жыл бұрын
"You can still be a good actor and wear a mask" Dredd enters the room.
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga Жыл бұрын
Speed Racer and Alita are great examples on how doing anime adaptation right, cause they’re actually made by people who are genuinely passionate about the source material.
@BoomerZ.artist
@BoomerZ.artist Жыл бұрын
As a massive Alita fan from way back, It's a fantastic movie. They changed just enough o make it a movie but you see that they wanted as much of the original as possible.
@demzre
@demzre Жыл бұрын
Yes, why did I forget about American live action adaptation of Alita. In my opinion, it's better than the source material.
@BoomerZ.artist
@BoomerZ.artist Жыл бұрын
@@demzre better than the anime yes, Debatable about the manga.
@aus-li
@aus-li Жыл бұрын
@@BoomerZ.artist I hated the first part of the manga, it looked too much like a shojo than a shounen. I’m so glad the author “remade” the series for a more mature, refined audience and made every character so much better.
@dickstarrbuck
@dickstarrbuck Жыл бұрын
Speed Racer definitely doesnt get enough love
@shahnawazadam7230
@shahnawazadam7230 Жыл бұрын
I would say Sin City really hits the mark of inner monologues and also give the vibes of anime where alot in conveyed with minimal words or even just using images and expressions.
@pmdesigns5798
@pmdesigns5798 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Loved Sin City, but that was nothing to do with anime - it was pure noir.
@Ausdoerrt
@Ausdoerrt Жыл бұрын
@@pmdesigns5798 well, it's based on a graphic novel, so similar origins, in a way
@pmdesigns5798
@pmdesigns5798 Жыл бұрын
@@Ausdoerrt True!
@cl114c0777498d
@cl114c0777498d Жыл бұрын
@@Ausdoerrt and that graphic novel in turn is based on film noir
@casefc3s
@casefc3s Жыл бұрын
Really great thought process and conversation on this. Looking forward to your project!
@melkerstangvik
@melkerstangvik Жыл бұрын
More of this content! I learn so much and feel very inspired after watching you analyze series and films like this!
@madjangler
@madjangler Жыл бұрын
This could be its own series. You’ve talked before about the Disney remakes in terms of the quality of the CG, but I’d love to see you tackle how they changed their storytelling technique.
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake Жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing is John Cho did a pretty good job playing Spike, and Mustafa Shakir did an absolutely excellent job playing Jet. It's a shame those performances had to be wasted on this.
@khandimahn9687
@khandimahn9687 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The actors overall did good jobs. It was the writing and directing that didn't live up to what it could have been.
@michaelmassajr.9996
@michaelmassajr.9996 Жыл бұрын
I love Mustafa but I wish someone like Michael Jai White was cast instead. I keep wishing Mustafa was like 10 years older than he is now since that would fit the role better. Jet had the grizzled older cop vibe going in Bebop but with Johnny Cho being older the roles were changed. Am I wrong?
@SmrtPhonRtistCF
@SmrtPhonRtistCF Жыл бұрын
You know what's funny, if they were more utilized in an original property that happens to be inspired by CB, it could've been passable.
@blazenfate
@blazenfate Жыл бұрын
In what world is John cho anywhere near remotely as cool as spike? It felt like watching a boy trying to act tough.
@arcturionblade1077
@arcturionblade1077 Жыл бұрын
@@blazenfate Spike was half goofball and half too-cool-for-school. I think Cho's Spike was pretty decent but the writers absolutely dropped the ball when it came with the main villains, which are a reflection of Spike since their back stories are so intrinsically tied together. Making Vicious a spoiled entitled man baby was the wrong call, and making Julia a conniving backstabber who betrays Spike just ruined her character and Spike's.
@danielseymour6110
@danielseymour6110 Жыл бұрын
Internal dialog is so powerful because it makes a character relatable. I don't care how strong an anime character is, when it cuts to their thoughts, they are usually struggling or trying to overcome something. Sometimes they are hard-core panicking, scared, angery, etc. It instantly makes them human and in order to care, we need to relate. I think anime is so popular among young people in the west because its a medium that allows a struggling teen to feel like they aren't alone. Internal dialog is usually private and something people would never voice out loud due to fear of judgment or shame. It normalizes those thoughts that everyone has, even the main hero. Compare that to recent marvel or starwars shows where the main hero is perfect and doesn't struggle. You don't even care when something happens to them because they aren't relatable. Iron man and spider man are fan favorites because they do have flaws and real human struggles (being depressed or being a teen) that makes you feel for what they feel. Anime nails this a lot. Its the reason why a book can make you feel more emotion because you get to read about a person's private thoughts that would never be vocalized in a movie.
@isaacglimka6053
@isaacglimka6053 Жыл бұрын
im a photographer and i have been trying to find a way to give my subjects that anime look, cant wait for the video on how you did it
@MJRLHobbyStuff
@MJRLHobbyStuff Жыл бұрын
I’d like to say, part of why masks are popular for anime, is because animating mouths is a lot of work compared to not doing it lol. I give Chris Evan’s credit he wore the Cap mask a lot compared to many of the other MCU cast.
@steverogers8163
@steverogers8163 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this 100%. Also why they favor characters that have high neck line clothing to make it easier to do cheap head movements, ala Hanna-Barbera.
@khandimahn9687
@khandimahn9687 Жыл бұрын
While true, the Cap mask doesn't cover that much of his face. You can still see more than enough to see his expressions.
@vazazell5967
@vazazell5967 Жыл бұрын
Masks are cool. Animating anime mouth flaps isn't hard, they don't even change jawlines.
@THEPELADOMASTER
@THEPELADOMASTER Жыл бұрын
I give Karl Urban credit for insisting he should wear the mask all the time in Judge Dredd. The guy pushed for the character NOT to take his mask off when the people making the film wanted to show his face.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
Still tho, they are still afraid to keep characters that are known to wear their mask and just... remove it so we can see the actors face... like come on its not even funny anymore after seeing master chief and a rando actor we don't care like sylvester Stallonebeing Judge dredd.
@jahleel0077
@jahleel0077 Жыл бұрын
I think the Netflix show "You' is a good example of well done internal monologues. It can be done and still be mainstream and I'd be interested to see more live action media try it out.
@hoorahforsnakes
@hoorahforsnakes Жыл бұрын
Dexter as well. Inner monologue works really well for sinister thoughts
@MrRomanba
@MrRomanba Жыл бұрын
@@hoorahforsnakes which are hilarious too :D
@SenseiSeth
@SenseiSeth Жыл бұрын
I love this format of video. Got my notepad out!
@Andrewhou
@Andrewhou Жыл бұрын
Learning so much from you guys. Keep up the awesome work👍
@suntsutoriden
@suntsutoriden Жыл бұрын
I think Alita Battle Angel is a great adaptation as it does a lot of those anime things: - isn't afraid to mask actors - uses slow motion to emphasise not just dodges but hits - uses the whole body to convey emotion rather than just the face
@CyberScifi
@CyberScifi Жыл бұрын
😎😎
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei Жыл бұрын
the entire film has ONE BIG MISTAKE... they aged the character. instead of the boy feeling like someone who doesn't know what they are doing, he look like an immatured brat that is why too old to be this stupid. and that literally ruined the feel of the film by making the character unrelatable. people are afraid to use young character because of the shit about star wars episode 1, but the issue with star wars was the story doesn't fit the age, the issue isn't the age itself, and when you change the character for a story that is written for a certain age, you just undo the story. it is sad because ABA could have been a classic. it was SO CLOSE, yet it drove itself into unrelatability by messing with the age.
@Komikino
@Komikino Жыл бұрын
It wasn't dark and gritty enough for a "dystopian" world. Everything was bright and happy. It was a great movie though. To me, it could've been a bit darker to set the mood and tone of the world.
@agent666ptc
@agent666ptc Жыл бұрын
Memento has some good internal monologue that really gets you into his always confused mind. "Okay, what am I doing?.. Guess I'm chasing him... No, he's chasing me!"
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 Жыл бұрын
Plus the battle within, solving a puzzle, putting pieces together, and feeling unsure when something does not fit till a solution
@secretscarlet8249
@secretscarlet8249 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Not only is it an analysis and an explanation, but it also hypes us for a future Corridor video. Can't wait! 👏👏👏👏👏
@mikeglasswell-gameplay
@mikeglasswell-gameplay Жыл бұрын
Great work going through the animation process and explanations. i have been a professional animator for 15 years. I find also, you can break cinematic conventions with animation. you dont have to cut for an effects shot or squib hit, you can have wacky angles and close up bonebreaking slow mo. pre production and story boarding is where it all is planned. and a lot more thought out. looking forward to seeing your guys attempt
@fenx3371
@fenx3371 Жыл бұрын
We need more Corridor Crew reacting and inspecting anime!!
@Elite-Y-
@Elite-Y- Жыл бұрын
like Jin Ro
@finger9456
@finger9456 Жыл бұрын
While it's not an anime remake, I think some of the biggest reasons for why the new Batman movie felt so refreshing is because it incorporated many of the filmmaking techniques touched on in this video. The character's entire exposition is built on internal monologue, there was no rush to reveal Pattinson's face, and it sets the tone perfectly and immediatley gives viewers an understanding of who the character is. The entire style of the movie was a very nice break from most Hollywood superhero movies, and most big budget movies could definitely learn a lot from it.
@hmm7458
@hmm7458 Жыл бұрын
yeah I was thinking the same
@dybiosol
@dybiosol Жыл бұрын
The fact that you don't even see the character for the first few minutes of the movie until you meet the "Vengeance" first and not Bruce Wayne is what made me realise that I'm in for a treat in this one
@Credits_Please
@Credits_Please Жыл бұрын
You could even say Christopher Nolan did this in The Dark Knight. Opens without revealing any of the goon's faces. You get a sense of how the Joker operates before even being introduced to him through the plan of killing the person once they finished their task. Only removing his mask until the end, one quick line that isn't dumb like I'm the Joker, bus joins other buses again showing he is smart and methotical. Cut away not explaining who he is, what he is doing or why and that information doesn't get revealed to you until way later.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro Жыл бұрын
It's the first movie in which Batman gets to do actual detective shit as well. A very good break from the other movies.
@pyrok007
@pyrok007 Жыл бұрын
The last Batman was trash, he is supposed to be the worlds best detective, but he didn’t detect anything, the villain gave home self up and told him the plan, plus that screeching Dana scene behind the glass was grating, bad acting, the cinematography in some scenes was pretty great, but his massively over bullet proofness was ridiculous, and who the hell cares if Cat woman is Falcones kid, that’s not the bomb drop they thought it was. penguin was played well by Colin farrel
@UthacalthingTymbrimi
@UthacalthingTymbrimi Жыл бұрын
Kaguya-sama Love Is War is an excellent live-action adaptation of the source material. Just like the anime, it makes near-constant use of inner monologue to portray the character's decision making and intentions. Narration, slow motion, well-chosen camera angles, every shot with intent, it's a great example of everything Sam and Nico discussed here.
@Revaris
@Revaris Жыл бұрын
A thought came back to me from a few years ago that I think applies to this conversation, back from when I had seriously considered devoted study to 3D animation for the purposes of trying to do some storytelling based on creative works I'd worked on in my spare time. The reason it matters is, in short, that I did not want my level of expression to be limited by the constraints of reality (within reason and not going to ridiculousness). Whether that was in terms of what perspectives I could use, how characters could move or how I could shape a story without limits. That key quality, expression without limit, is what I think makes anime so powerful. When you feel an emotion at its highest intensity you want that to be reflected on screen - stylised swagger, heartwrenching agony or all-consuming rage. It connects your eyes and your heart. Anime wears its heart on its sleeve, with all the expression life has to offer. It has the backbone to go uncompromisingly all out and we love that. Hollywood feels like its busy trying to imitate life, instead of feeling it and living it. So many of their attempts feel lifeless and without that sincere passionate heart that brings it to life.
@turnip1stew
@turnip1stew Жыл бұрын
Would just like to point out how awesome the Slo-mo scenes were in Dredd, where there aint nobody dodging nuthin. Has Corridor covered Dredd in any of their videos? They definitely should as its a criminally underrated movie with awesome CGI
@pcenero
@pcenero Жыл бұрын
also they mentioned the matrix. I think there was a rather memorable scene in the third movie where smith does get slo-mo punched in the face
@turnip1stew
@turnip1stew Жыл бұрын
@Phoenix when they are flying around in the rain? That's was pretty cool where the shock waves of the punches push the rain out as a sphere.
@ConfusedRaccoon
@ConfusedRaccoon Жыл бұрын
They have, briefly a while ago. Really enjoyed that one.
@ozkey1558
@ozkey1558 Жыл бұрын
I was just having a conversation with a stranger at a comic shop about Dredd! Such an underrated movie. But specifically we were talking about the great work the Slo-Mo Guys did on Dredd and Sherlock Holmes- a movie where the slo-mo is definitely utilized on the impacts rather than just dodges.
@turnip1stew
@turnip1stew Жыл бұрын
@@ozkey1558 yes! I keep forgetting they are involved in actual movies. The cannonball run through the woods in Sherlock is awesome!
@nikolajmedved7445
@nikolajmedved7445 Жыл бұрын
I think a big impact is that it looks so much cheaper. In Animation there is very little constraint on what you can show, while in live action you need to be more careful with budget constraints, how many VFX shots you're going to have, fight choreography, etc. while in animation you can be way more all out with it.
@TheBlackDeck
@TheBlackDeck Жыл бұрын
animation is cheap because no one will pay for 35 frames.
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe Жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackDeck Most anime are pretty expensive.
@ExtremeMadnessX
@ExtremeMadnessX Жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackDeck Animation definitely isn't cheap...
@JKTCGMV13
@JKTCGMV13 Жыл бұрын
They’re saying _hollywood_ looks cheaper. It doesn’t cost nearly as much to draw a building exploding as it costs to actually explode a building
@maximeteppe7627
@maximeteppe7627 Жыл бұрын
animation isn't cheap... but animating a large explosion and animating a one vs one fight can end up costing the same... it's just a matter of how the action is shown. And it's true that in that way it's very different from live action.
@RohannvanRensburg
@RohannvanRensburg Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis! I love the fact that you guys are so dialed into storytelling, pacing, character development, cinematography and the core elements of filmmaking. Why "Hollywood" doesn't broadly seem to be is really beyond me. I don't think I've seen a Netflix film that I've actually thought was good, even if some of their shows have been.
@681278
@681278 Жыл бұрын
The slow mo to show hit was one of my favorite bits from the loki pilot hopefully they use it more
@blasianray
@blasianray Жыл бұрын
It's really unfortunate that Hollywood doesn't capitalize on the use of masks. There is just so much that the audience ends up absorbing when they CAN'T see the actors face. Body movement, hesitation, and even posture become so much more impactful when the audience is denied a character's face.
@james3876
@james3876 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how lame Darth Vader would have been without one
@chugetnuget6230
@chugetnuget6230 Жыл бұрын
@@james3876 so true.
@toe-b203
@toe-b203 Жыл бұрын
It makes me appreciate that they animated Deadpool's eyes while he wore his mask
@Frankiigii
@Frankiigii Жыл бұрын
I think Tom Holland really nails body acting as Spider-Man.
@Frankiigii
@Frankiigii Жыл бұрын
@@james3876 Not to mention that when they finally do reveal his face it's an important moment of making the monster into a man again, while he's making himself vulnerable to save his son.
@FilipeSalgueiroo
@FilipeSalgueiroo Жыл бұрын
The Rurouni Kenshin live action adaptation is really really well done, would love to see your analysis of it!
@yoyo510
@yoyo510 Жыл бұрын
The movies don't portray any frame shot fidelity to the anime, yet they still clearly showcased action and emotion in great artistic intensity that is specific to the series. Plenty to dissect if they choose to cover the adaptations for this story!
@FilipeSalgueiroo
@FilipeSalgueiroo Жыл бұрын
@@yoyo510 yes, they added their touch but maintained the adaptation faithful to the original. Out of the top of my head, maybe the best anime adaptation into live action
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint Жыл бұрын
@@yoyo510 Good example of finding the essence of something and adapting that rather than just going through the plot beats.
@zaberfang
@zaberfang Жыл бұрын
@Seeyou Seemee He's first and foremost an assassin, of course he doesn't have to show his killing intent like a telegraph.
@Bane_Amesta
@Bane_Amesta Жыл бұрын
I'd say this works better than others mostly of the genre itself. It is a samurai story. It can be translated from anime to movie very well just by that factor alone. The colorful clothes and aesthetic of the anime are easily adaptable into more realistic and historical image. Not every anime has this advantage though.
@Cyromantik
@Cyromantik Жыл бұрын
One of the big things the Live Action GITS missed is that Motoko's goggles aren't just for style points, it's a filter to protect from eye hacks, the collar she and many other characters wear is a portable firewall because the internet incredibly dangerous and totally shot with aggressive worms and viruses in GITS' future. The Stand Alone Complex goes deeper into this with bulky terminals, androids-as-interface devices and single-use firewalls or maze traps. Hollywood gets it wrong by assuming everything is just there because Rule of Cool and ignores world-building.
@smileywarhead5178
@smileywarhead5178 Жыл бұрын
Extra cool about the red slow mo is that it drives home the hell of seeing things happen in godlike detail when your mortal body can't move fast enough to avoid it. Genius
@graysonhill
@graysonhill Жыл бұрын
Pete Travis' "Dredd" had Karl Urban in a mask the entire time ... just like the character. Olivia Thirlby went without a mask / helmet because in lore and in the film, her helmet got in the way of her telepathy. Also, eye candy.
@vincentvt6229
@vincentvt6229 Жыл бұрын
she was also supposed to be the character for the audience to identify with, that's gonna be hard if you never see her. Urban did an amazing job as dredd. (also yeah, eye candy)
@trae126tn
@trae126tn Жыл бұрын
Alice in Borderland on Netflix is a great live action of an manga/anime, done by a Japanese production. It involves a ton of mystery with a big cast of characters who all have distinctive personalities and designs. The stakes are so high in the show however, and made so because of how well they service the characters in these situations and how they set up the world - from the awesome action set pieces to the smaller mind game type stuff - it's all gripping. While watching it, I remember thinking "this feels a lot like an anime", then quickly discovered that it was a manga adapted into an anime. It's hard to recommend certain scenes because I think the good ones are pretty spoilerish, and some really spoilerish. So I'd recommend watching the series before watching any scene specifically!
@biazacha
@biazacha Жыл бұрын
Alice in Borderland really makes me wish Japanese, Korean or Chinese adaptations had that Hollywood budget.
@FuzzyDlop
@FuzzyDlop Жыл бұрын
@@biazacha Didn't need it, the budget of the show was as big as it should have been, especially for season 2. More money wouldn't have changed anything, they all they needed to adapt the manga.
@phoenix6890
@phoenix6890 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely AiB was great
@sergantawesom
@sergantawesom Жыл бұрын
Honestly it is one of the best manga to live action adaptions imo. The show isn’t perfect but it is a really good adaption.
@ryumuaz1997
@ryumuaz1997 Жыл бұрын
That was asian style of hollywood level big budget television & films like that.... ??? , how cool is that!!!! . Take that european - american snabby!!!! .
@ArcDragoon
@ArcDragoon Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that there wasn't any discussion about 'Everything, Everywhere, All At Once'. And what is key between anime and martial arts films, that isn't regular Hollywood.
@samkoskrabalek2609
@samkoskrabalek2609 Жыл бұрын
I'd love this to become a series, great learning material!
@fiveoneecho
@fiveoneecho Жыл бұрын
The Mandalorian perfectly demonstrates how you can create a character that the audience connects with and is solely unique to the actor, but almost never shows their face. Edit: Okay, apparently people still don't know this, but the rumors that Pedro Pascal hates having his face covered in the show and that he was going to quite over it were completely fake. There is this quote from him in regards to not having his face onscreen: "That is not true, actually. It's a really wonderful way of telling a story. It's always been a very clear creed for the character. The collaborative process of the whole thing. We've all been on the same page with this. What I want is for them to make the best show possible, however they get that done." This was in a publication by CinemaBlend, and there are other quotes like it from different interviews. Do y'all really think he signed the contract and didn't know the most defining trait of the character he was going to play? lmao
@james3876
@james3876 Жыл бұрын
If only the actor agreed
@fiveoneecho
@fiveoneecho Жыл бұрын
@@james3876 he does for the most part if you’re talking about the time the show was nearly canceled because he was going to leave. Turns out that was a fake story.
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 Жыл бұрын
But the actor hates it and wants his face showing more.
@CaseNumber00
@CaseNumber00 Жыл бұрын
Not surprising when the story and style is pretty close to an old manga called Lone Wolf and Cub.
@NigelV.Spencer
@NigelV.Spencer Жыл бұрын
You said internal monologue and my mind instantly snapped to Sin City. The monologues in that were god tier
@margaret7949
@margaret7949 Жыл бұрын
As an artist i understand how difficult animation is but also really rewarding. The artists can make cinematic scenery, facial expressions, movements with every kind or way they want. That's the magic of art, it allows for many art styles and techniques to be involved that can create masterpieces and also no live action can match. Also anime in the 90s and 2000s really shined in telling compelling groundbreaking stories like Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Studio Ghibli, Ghost in the shell, with messages about life, power, nature etc. Hollywood just needs to invest to animators more
@lam6297
@lam6297 Жыл бұрын
You guys are so amazing in creating these educational videos! You should review Gintama and Rurouni Kenshin! Those were the best anime adaptations since:)
@theokid2000
@theokid2000 Жыл бұрын
When I went to see RRR in theater recently me and my friend both kinda felt it often hit those same notes as anime. Not just in over the top'dness, but in being character driven, with all the zoom ins and expressiveness. The playfullness with the speed of movement, with slow mo's and speed ups. The mixture of seriousness and humor. The use of destruction to show force and stylized physics.
@dybiosol
@dybiosol Жыл бұрын
A lot of Indian movies (mostly 2010 onwards) have had the classic "anime" approach with the character-driven/visual storytelling, quickly moving between story beats and the use of "slow-mo on impact" in action direction. While the last was fairly goofy initially, they had gotten good with the first two down really early. RRR is basically the culmination of all three when done properly. Since then a lot of movies across India have been learning and incorporating similar direction techniques these days.
@nuzhatmaliat9258
@nuzhatmaliat9258 Жыл бұрын
"Stylized physics" is the BEST phrase to explain indian action scenes and cinematography, you just opened my third eye
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 Жыл бұрын
Which anime are you talking about? Anime is a whole medium. This may resemble baccno but is it like violet evergarden or aot or clannad? What people think of you say anime differs from person to person. For me personally I like the emotions and story stuff that gives me goosebumps, even slice of life is good. I rarely ever get goosebumps watching a holywood movie
@theokid2000
@theokid2000 Жыл бұрын
@@shivamarya5225 I was kind of referring to the anime medium as a whole. How anime expresses both action and emotion is fairly well encapsulated in RRR. I more am referring to how Indian film making hits those marks more when compared to Hollywood. Watching RRR definitely brought me goosebumps, and fascinatingly in both its insanely well choreographed fight scenes, as well as its evocative, almost overbearing quiet moments. I think any attempt to bring about a live action anime would do well to look at those strengths and attempt to incorporate them.
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 Жыл бұрын
@@theokid2000 i didn't think its emotional momennts had any punch because the story beats were so generic and the exprssions on some actors just didn't feel heartfelt but i see what you mean
@sensen2299
@sensen2299 Жыл бұрын
That internal monologue thing reminded me of Dexter. It wasn't a movie, it was a show, still I believe that it's one of great examples from live action materials. Without the style, Dexter wouldn't be such a successful series.
@Beschaulichkeit
@Beschaulichkeit Жыл бұрын
Lots of excellent points in here. I'm looking forward to seeing your work!
@noewolckers19
@noewolckers19 Жыл бұрын
Hayao Miyazaki encapsulate it well when he says: "Every movement is an intention". And I think that could be used in hollywood cinema. Especially for special effect. From the most obvious like replacing the Kamehameha farts from Dragonball evolution with the energy blast from the anime that truly conveys the intention to blast you away. But also in many gun fights or shootouts where the movies conveys: "there's a shootout someone shoots you shoot back... very scary..." To:" there's a shootout they are trying to kill you so you have to fend them off or maybe even have to kill them first. And every bullet shot should serve that intention." Instead of having every bullet flying willy nilly making just sparks you can make a story that way. The bad guys shoot to kill and the good guys just try to scare them off and you can tell that by how the bullets are shot and their impacts.
@crashingatom6755
@crashingatom6755 Жыл бұрын
The Batman narration was good, you don’t even notice that he’s doing it. Fits perfectly.
@phrygd
@phrygd Жыл бұрын
Or Watchman; I recall that being pretty good narration.
@jbb004
@jbb004 Жыл бұрын
I know it isn't anime but I think Scott Pilgrim vs the World will be the closest to a great anime adaptation we'll ever have.
@JoshuaMabie
@JoshuaMabie Жыл бұрын
This is the real answer. It did everything right and is very under-rated.
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy Жыл бұрын
Rurouni Kenshin. Treat yourself.
@jbb004
@jbb004 Жыл бұрын
@@AllTheArtsy true. Love all those movies.
@biazacha
@biazacha Жыл бұрын
They should stop picking battle shonen or other titles that rely heavily in the media of animation and pick titles that can actually work with flesh and blood
@orgANGmo
@orgANGmo Жыл бұрын
Perfect example.
@mainmunahahmad7965
@mainmunahahmad7965 Жыл бұрын
I personally loved the j drama Great Teacher Onizuka (98 version) which was adopted from the manga with the same name. It changes a few things from the manga, but the spirit of it was captured perfectly for the live action.
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078 Жыл бұрын
It's the first time I ever hear bout it. Gonna check.
@evanshepherd7238
@evanshepherd7238 Жыл бұрын
can we also talk about how in sherlock they also use slow motion for the impacts as well as the dodging during the interna l monologue
@christondevold2853
@christondevold2853 Жыл бұрын
Live action Rurouni Kenshin are damn near perfect and hit everything you want out of an adaptation.
@Isnogood12
@Isnogood12 Жыл бұрын
Except for Kenshin's stupid breakdance battling and sliding on the floor between mook's legs. Ruined the movie for me.
@Ash-vv5ei
@Ash-vv5ei Жыл бұрын
Japanese live action tends to get it right more regularly, but it makes sense--their film culture is much closer to the source material and will understand stylistic priorities, and storytelling will have to hit the marks more clearly.
@androyus
@androyus Жыл бұрын
@@Isnogood12 What, do you prefer they're doing still-frames like in the old anime? 😏
@jip5889
@jip5889 Жыл бұрын
Awesome just commented the same before seeing this one. Kenshin is definitey how to do live action anme.
@foreal7712
@foreal7712 Жыл бұрын
@@Isnogood12 ehh i think it’s the best we can get out of live action Hiten Mitsurugi Style speed. Unless you want him to magically disappear and reappear with enemies KO’d. Or seizure inducing frames when he fights Sojiro in the anime. What really bothered me was the amount of reverse grip Kenshin used.
@danielbook
@danielbook Жыл бұрын
The Karl Urban version of Dredd also shows that not showing a characters face can still work and be awesome. They just have to be a good actor.
@reynoldsdana
@reynoldsdana Жыл бұрын
I agree with the internal monologue observation - I recall that working quite well in Sin City - made it feel more like a motion picture graphic novel.
@LostStylus
@LostStylus Жыл бұрын
I think Dredd also nailed how anime could look in live action. Also, never took off the mask.
@RobGMun
@RobGMun Жыл бұрын
A great example of inner monologue that worked in a movie that you didn't mention is Fight Club, the movie is packed with it and it works brilliantly
@srbelnap
@srbelnap Жыл бұрын
Serving world building and story are two big shortcomings from Hollywood right now, but they've always been hard. What I like about anime (I think I got this perspective from you guys) is how freckin' expressive it can be. There exaggerations is often mocked and a bit tropey, but it does so much for character and story.
@Sergeeeek
@Sergeeeek Жыл бұрын
Yeah, exaggeration feels natural when you get used to it. It feels like watching a play, where actors have to exaggerate body movements and voice so that everyone in the back can see.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 Жыл бұрын
China an Korea have this down more films like Detective Chinatown 1-3 and Hwayi a monster boy
@Vamp1re000
@Vamp1re000 Жыл бұрын
YO YIU JUST GOT 6M CONGRATS BRO
@SharabTi
@SharabTi Жыл бұрын
Recommendation here- So Evangelion creator Hideako Anno directed a live action Godzilla film recently and it’s a really great example of anime film language in a live action film. Really good stuff, very ‘cost effective’ for lack of a better term, meaning every shot WORKS and just the way the scenes move the film forwards is really great. If you get a chance to watch it see if you can spot the worlds shortest establishing shot, somewhere in the first ten minutes, it’s like 8 frames long and still reads clearly to the audience. Luckily I got a chance to see it on a big screen 😊
@amdreallyfast
@amdreallyfast Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys calling out the specifics of where failed adaptations fell short. Identifying specifics is required before the first steps can be made for a fix.
@BobSmun
@BobSmun Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Kakegurui in both anime and live action adaptations - especially because of how far they were willing to take the live action acting and facial expressions to really accentuate the 'crazy' personalities of the characters. They even change the size of the pupils / iris at times, in the live action - e.g. for shock / surprise / dread - to give it that extra punch
@ElTuco84
@ElTuco84 Жыл бұрын
Wish you guys have covered Speed Racer since it's made by the Wachowskis, they made many interesting stylistic choices to translate the look and feel of anime to film.
@AnthonyOkuchi
@AnthonyOkuchi Жыл бұрын
The original Blade Runner in 1982 with the Theatrical Cut and Deckards narration throughout the experience is a memory that I have about how good narration can make a movie.
@pmdesigns5798
@pmdesigns5798 Жыл бұрын
I think that a lot of anime was inspired by that Blade Runner.
@a5noble2
@a5noble2 Жыл бұрын
Rurouni Kenshin was great live action. I think thats because the anime was a good choice/easy to adapt. The inner monologue was simply the names of the techniques, and for a super fan watching, we just knew which techniques Kenshin was doing in the live action even though he didn't say it. Plus good acting, facial expressions, camera shots let us know what Kenshin was thinking.
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy Жыл бұрын
Serialized is also important, anime is longform storytelling. It makes no sense for Hollywood to try to package these grand stories into one movie. Kenshin was handled so well and also serialized into multiple movies that use the movie format more like volumes of a manga, not try to go from introduction to the end.
@erickadame3153
@erickadame3153 Жыл бұрын
Rurouni Kenshin live actions are my favorite adaptation of an anime. The fights scenes are amazing.
@randomuser942464
@randomuser942464 Жыл бұрын
Check out the scence in LOTR Fellowship of the Ring where Gandalf jumps off the tower of Isangard onto an eagle. As he flies away his face is hilarious 😂
@_Glamor
@_Glamor Жыл бұрын
The only Hollywood live-action movies/adaptations that I've seen personally that achieved having anime-like qualities outside of the Matrix are Speed Racer, Scott Pilgrim, Sucker Punch, and of course, Alita. They each adapted and implemented the effects and cinematography they were aiming for perfectly.
@parkermoser9657
@parkermoser9657 Жыл бұрын
I personally think the Rurouni Kenshin adaptations were fantastically fun. They changed some things but kept the core soul of the show for the most part. And the 5th movie was a very nice adaptation of a short arc which let it really flesh itself out.
@LostHope84
@LostHope84 Жыл бұрын
Oh god. This comment section makes me wanna vomit. Grow up, man.
@joaquinm1665
@joaquinm1665 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the problems you mention can be traced to the fact that the hollywood adaptations fail to understand that anime has a narrative structure very unique. A narrative with a problem but no conflict. That is the reason why some scenes or sequences that seem mundane can have so much emotion and impact Greetings from Mexico - Love your videos
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 Жыл бұрын
Watch Michiko and Hatchin it's very grounded most of the time an atmosphere an characters mix beautifully
@UnexpectedDanger
@UnexpectedDanger Жыл бұрын
Dark Knight Rises - Bane, great job of acting in a mask. He conveys so much with body language, head movements, or just his eyes.
@ewaldus
@ewaldus Жыл бұрын
The internal dialogue was pretty well done in Dexter as well.
@NaXEthan
@NaXEthan Жыл бұрын
i think the ultimate answer is really just that live action will never be able to capture the same feelings and qualities that animation does. that doesn't mean it's any less valid; both mediums just have things you can do in them that you can't do anywhere else. trying to translate animation to live action, more often than not, is going to take away a lot more than it adds. addendum, was not expecting hear someone say anything positive about the death note adaptation. damn
@aus-li
@aus-li Жыл бұрын
Well, not Hollywood, but someone like Takashi Miike does live anime adaptation justice.
@nlewe1981
@nlewe1981 Жыл бұрын
You guys have a great community. The examples they give for internal monologue and other Hollywood movies with anime qualities are just top notch.
@BasicallyAChicken
@BasicallyAChicken Жыл бұрын
Rurouni kenshin's live actions were actually really good
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@NovastarDoughnut
@NovastarDoughnut Жыл бұрын
See but also the GITS scene also manages to tell you a lot about the themes and characters as well. Motoko going up against and fighting the mech one on one is a solidification of her not caring about her own wellbeing. The symbol on the wall that is destroyed is the tree of life, and I am pretty sure, if I understand stuff correctly, i could be wrong is a thing in like alchemy and assorted mysticism where in order to truly understand one's self or the world you must climb the tree and in doing this you come to a complete understanding if yourself. And in it being destroyed it symbolises how both her and the puppet master do not understand themselves.
@Krescentwolf
@Krescentwolf Жыл бұрын
Probably the single best anime to live action adaption, imo, is Ruroni Kenshin. They really managed to take the extremely anime'd swordfighting and turn it into something that was simultaneously realistic and still possessed of that anime flair.
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