I have the ode 2 with MP burrs. The place to further elevate is with my technique and other than the cost of ever more expensive coffee, there's nothing new needed.

I hope this is helpful to understand how these three grinders compare but also that the grinder isn't the only important thing when it comes to brewing great coffee!!!

Great video, as always. 💯

Aw man PERFECT lineup!!!

It’s fun to “cup grinders” I have a vario, ode Gen 2, and ghost burr I put side by side. Fun to see how the cup can change from one grinder to the next.

Nice comparison video. I like how you pulled out the differences without being judgemental. I got both the DF83V (espresso burrs) and Duo G2 earlier this year. The 83 has had a bit more of a learning curve, but I am loving them both!

Man you made a dream of mine come true by lining up these 3 beast’s 🫡

Great video AAron!

Great review, Aaron. I like the idea of a side by side, stock, no pressure, “let’s just see,” comparison. Let’s us get a kind of idea as to whether it’s worth it to pay extra for one grinder over its cheaper rival. As an aside: In an ideal world, if my coffee bar AND my wallet were bigger, I’d have two grinders. Definitely a flat, like the Ode, for drip and an espresso focused grinder, like maybe a VS3 or DF54.

I appreciate the comparison. I'm currently still using my Ode Gen 1 with Gen 2 burr upgrade for pour overs. For the price point, hard to beat IMO. Now my question. Can you define "juicy" for me. I hear so many people use that term but have never heard an explanation of what it actually means when referring to coffee. Thanks for another great video.

Great video. I have an Ode Gen 2 and have been thinking about a 078 when I’m ready for a change and more clarity. I’d be interested in your take on when you like each Lotus recipe. Maybe a video to consider in the future? I usually stick to Light and Bright but will give Bright and Juicy a try soon to see how it compares. A basic v60 recipe with settings for each of those grinders would probably help a lot of people too. I see so many posts online where people don’t know what to look for to know if they are nailing a basic v60 recipe. I’m only just figuring it out recently myself 😅

In terms of taste gains per $, there’s definitely diminishing returns. Get a quality grinder, but know that upgrading it won’t result in a massive improvement. Water, temp, brew technique, appropriate grind size will have a much more significant effect.

Fantastic comparison! Really fascinating. Am I right in thinking you might get a different amount of fines and flavour profile by adjusting the rpm with the Timemore and Turin?

I use a DF83v with SSP MP burrs for filter. Use a P64 with SSP HU burrs for espresso. Love the DF83v. Very consistent, very low retention.

I've done something like this too, especially with a good coffee (some coffees are just harder to make bad lol) where everything Is just really good. Hard to pick what you like better or worse, It's a good problem to have I guess :D Recently I have a funky Anaerobic processed coffee and noticed with my flat burr grinders including the Ode it emphasized more of that funky fermenty note and I don't really like it, on my good decent clarity conical burr grinders though it seemed like it toned that funkiness' down but still kept the fruity pleasant notes! (might have also been due to coarser grind size or some other variables, but seems pretty consistent). Honestly sometimes I can't really tell the difference between the good decent clarity conical grinders and flat burr grinders, but with this coffee it made a big difference going from flat to conical.

Great video Señor Aaron! I replaced the original DF83 italmill burrs with the DLC brew burrs and while the brews taste better, I keep going back to my Ode Gen 1 w/SSP MP and my second Gen 1 with Gen 2 burrs for filter coffee. Plus my DF83 (w ionizer) is really messy even after taking off the declumper & doing RDT. I’ve been considering selling my DF83s and DF64 and perhaps get a Zerno 😅.

Nice one bro! For me having a dedicated grinder for brew and spro is ideal ☕️✊💞📣

What recipe do you use for pour overs?

Most newer kitchens in the U.S. have 20A sockets on the counters, and it seems really strange to me that no one makes a kettle that uses this plug for the extra wattage.

What grind setting did you use for the 078? I have one and would be curious to try your exact recipe!

what do you think about SSP MP burr on Ode Gen 2 ? If we replace this burr will it better than Timmore and df83 ?

How did you dial in the grind size on the Turin and Fellow? Did you match TDS to the Turin?

Do decent $100 electric grinders exist? I want to replace my Timeore hand grinder

I just had to return my df64 Gen 2 due to horrible qc issues. I am now back to searching. I am worried about the 078 and all the horrible qc issues being reported and that the sculptor looks like a nightmare to service the burrs. I run into the same possibility of QC with the df83v as I did the df64. My buddy has an ode gen 2 and it is shaky and janky. I was looking at the mazzer philos, but they aren't shipping to the US atm and I refuse to pay more than 1000 bucks. I can't believe I can't get a good quality QCd coffee grinder for 1000 bucks...

Hi, need help! I have df64 gen2 with ssp mp and timemore 78s. I thought buying turbo burrs 078 and change the mp of my df64 by cast burrs v3 for espresso . It is a good idea ?

what type of coffees would you grind with the 078?

I thought the 078 was supposed to give extreme clarity?

So..the ode ssp mp might be similar to the 078? ❤

Don’t shorten the video of the actual grinding. That is the action.

Hey, I own an 078, and I have friends who own the other 2 grinders, so I would be very curious to hear what grind setting you used on each one so we can compare!

Sup aaron ❤

You had to test the DF83V and 078 on their lowest RPMs. They have an advantage which you didn't use. 1400 is definitely in the espresso range.

It's not like I am dying to get a new grinder but the df83v is very intriguing. But dang that is soooo ugly. The freaking choo choo profile is just heinous.