What's Happening With The Coyotes?

What's Happening With The Coyotes? | 32 Thoughts

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Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman delve into the Arizona Coyotes potential relocation to Salt Lake City. Why the players aren't speaking, the emotions in the aftermath, and the dealings behind the scenes. That, and more, in this edition of 32 Thoughts!
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0:00 - The Arizona Coyotes potential relocation to Salt Lake City and everything that comes with it.
17:00 - A conversation about how people around the league felt snookered and played by Coyotes ownership.
21:30 - Jeff and Elliotte also discuss the league's interest in having Ryan Smith as an owner in the league.
25:45 - How they expect the Utah franchise to be aggressive in adding players.
29:48 - An exciting night of hockey in the Eastern Conference playoff race. 32:35 - The tight Hart Trophy race and diving into the Noah Hanifin extension in Vegas.
46:14 - Jeff and Elliotte talk about Jakob Silfverberg announcing his retirement from the NHL, and Elliotte has a note on the Ducks who got into some hot water.
52:52 - The guys answer your questions in the Montana’s Thought Line. 1:08:31 - Jeff wraps the podcast with an anecdote on Anaheim Ducks prospect Sam Colangelo.
Email the podcast at 32thoughts@sportsnet.ca or call the Montana's Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemail
This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.
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What's Happening With The Coyotes? 32 Thoughts NHL Podcast

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@gordonlynch3217 Ай бұрын

Feels a lot like "too little too late." The coyotes owners had years to work out another option besides Tempe and haven't managed it. Sad day for hockey as I've had a soft spot for them since the late 90s when I first played them in EAs career mode. Great logo, great uniforms, and great fans.

@jasonfire3434 Ай бұрын

I don’t think “great fans” is accurate, they did have a group of loyal die hards but not enough to make Phoenix an untouchable hockey market. Attendance was never toward the top even when the team was good, and ticket prices were never high enough to show a real demand (other than the Mullett years). The team would not have gone bankrupt had they been able to sell out regularly.

@therealinternetelvis Ай бұрын

Ran into Elliotte today on King Street East in Toronto. I was wearing my Leafs Jersey and asked him for a light for the Joint I had hanging from my lips. ''I quit years ago' was the reply that came with a smile as I'm sure he thought I was gonna ask him about my Leafs. lol. Great guy. Thanks E !!!!

@squidMB Ай бұрын

The coyotes and the NHL saying “No comment” is pretty damning

@FischerFan Ай бұрын

The fact that neither of Bettman or Daly lifted a finger to denounce the rumors over the past 36 hours speaks volumes.

@Dogcitydisco Ай бұрын

Executives from coyotes didn’t communicate with anyone. I live in PHX and betrayed is a good word to describe how people feel about Muerelo. Tempe woulda been great but not to be I guess

@PaperMoonShine1 Ай бұрын

The people of Tempe voted, and they voted with a giant middle finger to the Yotes.

@sinkingrock Ай бұрын

@@PaperMoonShine1not entirely true. It was a vote in the middle of a work day, and there was a smear campaign that was rife with misinformation and NIMBY garbage

@ArticulateAnodyne Ай бұрын

⁠@@PaperMoonShine1 errr maybe, but it’s not the taxpayers job to bail out billionaires who can’t pay rent on rinks or even pay their hotel bills. Did you hear the part about the group of hotels the league uses banding together and demanding the Coyotes start paying for their rooms up front? The owner was just looking for free money to build a rink he’d never pay rent on in my opinion.

@darrenpinard1658 Ай бұрын

The Doan Curse. Shane Doan rookie year was the last year of the jets. Josh Doan the last year of Arizona… Look into it

@JoeMagician Ай бұрын

Knew Hanafin was gonna sign as soon as he got traded because of Eichel. Spitting Chiclets did their sandbagger golf thing with Eichel, and who is his best bud he called up to play as his partner out of everyone in the area he knows and played with growing up? Noah Hanafin. Hurts as a Bruins fan, but at least know they never really had a shot anyway with Tampa being the only other option.

@stephenphillips6245 Ай бұрын

Imagine getting a billion for a team you paid 340 million for and also getting a promised expansion team. Hopefully, he has to pay expansion fee too...geez it is like one failing team turns into an extra team.

@mikegames3464 Ай бұрын

The year they got to the conference finals, they were last in the league for average attendance

@jasonfire3434 Ай бұрын

Yes, seeing everyone talk about how Arizona is a good market that they’re leaving makes me laugh out loud, it was a complete flop.

@RRaquello Ай бұрын

Suspended franchises have happened before in the NHL. The NY Americans franchise was suspended and was supposed to come back after the war, but the Rangers stopped that. I believe the Ottawa/St. Louis Eagles franchise was also suspended for a couple of years before it was finally terminated. Also, I would argue that it was Bryan Trottier who made #19 "iconic". Yzerman wore 19 because of Trottier, Sakic wore 19 because of Yzerman, and so on and so on.

@alilameda Ай бұрын

If you take a shot every time Elliotte says "look", you'd get a pretty good buzz on. The Elliotte Friedman drinking game

@raybetts6990 Ай бұрын

Love the Pod

@goenzoy712 Ай бұрын

But what did players expect? 5000 seat is not NHL standard Even more so in a fast growing city That owners will take the first flight out is not a surprise

@robertmclean2812 Ай бұрын

After watching that Colorado / Minny game last week its hard to vote for anyone other than MacKinnon for the Hart.

@pattylonglegs3353 Ай бұрын

1 thing I don’t hear anyone talking about when it come to attractions for players. Vegas has the best ice in the NHL. The players take notice to that. It’s a factor I don’t see anyone talking about.

@nielsonlars Ай бұрын

The Canadian media is really happy that Arizona Coyotes are moving

@rudyparenteau9231 Ай бұрын

This may be a great thing for the team, likely going to get more Canadian fans will travel to Salt Lake city its only 1 day trip.

@Rosewood185 Ай бұрын

I’m good for it , 300 bucks playnow profit. I figured they were heading for Salt Lake City 🎉 Lots of factors were leaning that way !

@bryancollins6800 Ай бұрын

You’ll know how serious Meurelo is about getting the team back in June if he wins that bid or not. Plus im assuming the “window” has started so theres no time to mess around. Would suck to spend a billion on this arena and then the window closes cause he couldn’t get this done in time. I also wonder if the window closes and he cant get it done, what happens to all the naming rights and patents for the coyotes. Are they free for anyone to take?

@ncsd98 Ай бұрын

NHL getting off scott-free with the move...

@philtorrez4198 Ай бұрын

I’ll tell you that as someone who has stood by this team for over a decade through all bullshit. Someone who has spent countless dollars on tickets, jerseys, concessions, and merchandise, I am furious, and they are cowards.

@2Jim2u Ай бұрын

Hmmm, Mr Friedman, interesting calling people names without knowing circumstances? Even if land is won at auction, what's timeline for building codes? Well, with a brief lookup/search, I found that Phoenix contractors lose 4 hours of building time to Las Vegas building contractors. That's 1/6 of the total day towards building a building. Very interesting. Imagine if Friedman's house was going to get built and he had to live in a rental until land was purchased and then building was built, but he might have to live in rental for extra years, the volume of years is the unknown?? So what if you win an Auction.... you're still inside that small arena for how many more years??

@Al_Camino77 Ай бұрын

Salt Lake is an underrated city.

@saabviggen00 Ай бұрын

If ownership gets that window, doesn't that set the timeline for someplace like Atlanta?

@TheEskimeaux Ай бұрын

Bingo

@soxbearshwks8988 Ай бұрын

rumors rumors i assume when the season ends, mia merlo will make some sort of statement, but we'll see....

@dfu3764 Ай бұрын

The thing i dont understand about the neck gaurd debate is. Kids grow up wearing them and should be used to them. So why not make them mandatory in leagues that when you move up to the next level you have to continue wearing it.... leave it optional for those that dont have to now, but anyone coming up from a league they have to wear them then they just keep wearing them.

@dannybobby13 Ай бұрын

Love the commercials every 2 minutes!! 23 minutia in and I’ve had to watch 16 commercials.

@jockejocke1 Ай бұрын

Go Premium, bro. Best money I ever spent.

@djmips Ай бұрын

Elliotte Friedman's Kermit voice. Solid.

@emac4794 Ай бұрын

He sounds more like Scottie Upshall than Bonnie Raite

@dthompson4356 Ай бұрын

As a diehard Yotes fan it is crazy how much we don't know and my initial reaction based on what I have heard. Alex Murelo is a garbage owner and person if he does sell the team. IF the auction in Scottsdale doesn't work then I would be okay if they moved. Scottsdale would be the LAST effort

@gordonlynch3217 Ай бұрын

If you don't mind me asking (oilers fan here) but what will you do if they do move? Follow them in Utah as an armchair fan, find another team, or wait for them to potentially return? 😢

@dthompson4356 Ай бұрын

@@gordonlynch3217 great question. I would be to upset and heartbroken to follow them. Id even have a hard time if they ever came back as an expansion franchise.

@dthompson4356 Ай бұрын

@@gordonlynch3217 I am a diehard Las Vegas Raiders fan so I might lean towards the Knights because of my love for the Raiders plus hockey is an amazing sport. I need a team to cheer for.

@2018josh Ай бұрын

@@gordonlynch3217yeah all the fans are screaming, (rightfully so) but I’m a coyote fan. Relocation isn’t really surprising. I’ll root for the Utah team until the players move on or the new team comes. Maybe it takes 5 years. Maybe 30. Time will tell.

@Riders241 Ай бұрын

Good riddance to your 30 year dead corpse of a franchise

@bingo5694 Ай бұрын

looking at Yotes on capfriendly. They don't have a single Dman under contract next year. I thought Carolina was effed.

@2018josh Ай бұрын

If Utah wants a playoff team, they can sign 2 UFAs. The yotes have 2 good prospects brewing that will be 1st line D in 2-3 yrs.

@ramiroalba651 Ай бұрын

The fact the NHL is still giving this ownership an option is ridiculous. They have been a terrible ownership and didn’t have the respect for the players and fans to come out and speak out. Here in AZ we hate this ownership

@sloppytuna_ Ай бұрын

Absolutely terrible by Meurelo. Complete disregard for any of the players or staff. Keeping them in the dark like he did is unacceptable. Hope he doesn't end up with another franchise.

@stephenphillips6245 Ай бұрын

1 billion for Ottawa came with a real estate play... Phoenix doesn't. Let's reward an owner that doesn't even pay his players hotel bills ..LoL

@coltondzuba87 Ай бұрын

LETS GO YOTES!!

@matcheer9909 Ай бұрын

Franchise has moved again and again and again . should call them the Pilgrims ! 🧂

@gamingoddity679 Ай бұрын

If Utah gets it's team, leaving an Arizona expansion with a 5 year window, it would be interesting if the NHL allowed a Quebec franchise at the same time to keep the conferences even in terms of teams.

@gordtulk Ай бұрын

No. It will be balanced with Atlanta

@MarloSoBalJr Ай бұрын

Blue Jackets and, believe it or not... now the Winnipeg Jets are on the leash now. Quebec City is a long shot

@brianjones7660 Ай бұрын

@@MarloSoBalJr MTL enters the chat...👎

@generalimlerith8356 Ай бұрын

Feel sad for Arizona folks but really happy to the folks of SLT lake city fun to see a new city in the NHL community

@mitchgalietta6564 Ай бұрын

While I feel bad for the coyote fans and the families involved on the business side, I'm over it. Move already!!! How many chances does Arizona get?

@emustard-3 Ай бұрын

Hockey can work in az we just need a winning team and we just got some promising young players I went to a white out game and it was standing room only

@jasonfire3434 Ай бұрын

@@emustard-3if you need a winning team for the franchise to be viable then it’s not a good market.

@Rob-vc6xw Ай бұрын

"The Arizona Coyotes are the most successful franchise in NHL history, the fact they are moving to Utah proves this. We at the NHL are very pleased with how this amazing franchise has provided extra revenue and nothing but positives for the NHL over its time. This move to Utah reflects the strength of the Phoenix hockey market and its acceptance of the NHL and sport of Hockey. We look forward to the continued success of the NHL in Phoenix and Arizona as a whole." Gary Bettman NHL Commissioner

@viperswhip Ай бұрын

Do you still want expanded playoffs? All this drama would mean less if they were locked up for an expanded playoff.

@djmips Ай бұрын

Why are people so upset. Individual players get traded all.the.time. Utah is a great place. They'll find out.

@mikemauger-fk7lz Ай бұрын

Marek get a cough drop my guy. Also, garbage plates rock.

@ozzydo2314 Ай бұрын

He's getting 1B ? He better be giving those soon to be fired employees a nice package

@gearjammer81 Ай бұрын

Please explain why the other 31 teams get a cut when it should be just sold to a new buyer? Did the other teams get a cut from the sale of the Senators? The Jets, Nordiques or Thrashers were not claimed to be "inactive"

@user-ev2nu3yv8e Ай бұрын

If the coyotes owner is such a moron why would the nhl give him another franchise in a few years. Just give Utah an expansion franchise and the sites in phoenix. All about the almighty dollar and trust

@viperswhip Ай бұрын

The Arizona ownership has been a dumpster fire for its entire history. So, the NHL, wants this group to build an arena, because even if they win the auction, that is not proof this group can actually private fund an arena, or that the city will approve an arena.

@jasonfire3434 Ай бұрын

If I were the city of Phoenix I wouldn’t want to award anyone from the Coyotes the permit to this arena when the market has proven it’s not really that amazing for hockey… surely there could be better uses for that land.

@bradkessler6435 Ай бұрын

Garbage Plate = Rochester Cuisine!

@SoNowWhatEh Ай бұрын

Because who wears 66 compared to 4,9,19 cmon dawg those 3 numbers are minor hockey numbers

@rocksmith3796 Ай бұрын

Salt Lake City $avior$

@j.thomas7128 Ай бұрын

Salt Lake City bound!

@Hoovie9596 Ай бұрын

28 years of crap. Enough is enough

@Krokodilius Ай бұрын

no one cares about assists...they give 2 for each goal.

@DaveCo406 Ай бұрын

The NHL is a gate driven league. Did anyone believe the NHL would ever let them play in a 5000 seat arena for 3 years. It was just a stop gap because the Yotes were painted in a corner. They don't even own a piece of dirt to put the arena on yet. This saga has been going on for years and years and years. I feel for the Yotes' fan base but good riddance Alex Meruelo.

@jamespark6416 Ай бұрын

To be fair they let the Flames play in a 7000 seat arena for a couple years but it was back in the 80s

@FischerFan Ай бұрын

@@jamespark6416 But the NHL knew that a new 19,000-seat building was forthcoming.

@DaveCo406 Ай бұрын

@@jamespark6416 An entirely different situation. The Flames relocated to Calgary in 80. Calgary won the 88 Winter Olympics bid in 81. Construction on the Olympic Saddle Dome was started in 81. Everything was well in order for a home for the Calgary Flames

@danieldosso2455 Ай бұрын

I can't really say I feel bad for Yotes fans. Bettman moved the old Jets b/c he saw dollar signs in Arizona, without really considering if the desert could sustain a hockey franchise long term. The Yotes should have moved 20 years ago, they should have moved in 2010 when the NHL literally bought the team to keep it alive. The Team should have sold after the 2012 playoffs when it's evaluation was at its highest. Good for those fans who stuck to the team, but if you join a sinking ship, you don't get to play victim when the team folds/moves.

@winstonrumfoord7927 Ай бұрын

If having to pick up and move on short notice is a problem maybe professional hockey player is not a good profession for them, I am sure they will have no problem making a million bucks in another line of work quite easily lol

@alexwinfield9540 Ай бұрын

Yeah because playing a short career that's pretty much guaranteed to leave you in pain in the end is easy you absolute tool

@adamsteele6148 Ай бұрын

Crybaby millionaires have to move north a few miles. Haha big deal. Millionaire tears.

@FischerFan Ай бұрын

They'll be grateful for the NHL ambience they'll experience in SLC than in that puny college arena.

@wbj2000 Ай бұрын

Arizona as a hockey market is completely worthless. The team is only worth something because it is being moved. How many owners have given up on the Coyotes?? Let's review the long list. ALL OF THEM. Let's keep in mind the team fell into bankruptcy and it took $50M from the City of Glendale and a healthy injection from the NHL to keep them going in Arizona. It's dead ... it's done .. It's finished .. It's over ... NEVER TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN. End of an error.

@FischerFan Ай бұрын

I hope you're right on all counts!

@gordonlynch3217 Ай бұрын

Isn't the point of Arizona that it's one of the fastest growing TV markets?

@FischerFan Ай бұрын

@@gordonlynch3217 That point becomes moot when the franchise - ranks dead last in value among the 124 in North American major league pro sport - proves to be the biggest drain on the NHL for nearly all of the last 28 years - ranks at or near the bottom in television viewership among NHL markets Just how much more time does that market need, or deserve, to prove itself? Where do we draw the line?

@Chevelle602 Ай бұрын

@@FischerFanITS NOT THE MARKET, ITS THE OWNERS!

@jasonfire3434 Ай бұрын

⁠@@gordonlynch3217that’s the only reason the franchise would ever come back, as potential ammo for a larger national TV deal in the US. On its own though, TV markets don’t do any good unless the people in those markets want to actually watch the team.