What's in my Fastpack - OR NOT! Load out of pack used on the mountain route, Cumbria Way

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Ambling Trails

Ambling Trails

11 ай бұрын

Recently I completed the mountain route of the Cumbria Way in three days. Each day was an average of 24 miles and 5,700 feet of ascent, this was only possible my packing my rucksack as light as possible to go as fast as possible. In this video I review the contents of my rucksack and equally consider what I did not take compared to 'normal'. I welcome your thoughts and ideas, can I reduce the weight further or should I?
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In this video I initially review the items that I did not take whilst fast packing. Also, some of my weight saving is achieved by swapping out items, in some instances these items are more appropriate for running and by their nature are lighter than standard hiking gear. Some of the weight saving is a result of less time on the trail. If I was hiking the mountain route of the Cumbria Way, I believe that it would have taken five days compared to the three I took whilst fast packing. Therefore, due to the reduced time on the trail I reduced my spare clothing by one set which reduced my base rate and also reduced my food by a day's worth which impacted on my gross weight.
The above actions reduced my weight by 25% from 6.5kilos down to 5 kilos. The remaining part of the video I detail the contents of my fast pack, sharing some of the logic for each item and the weight of these items. At the time of packing these were the items I believe I required to safely and comfortable complete my time on the mountain route. However, I do acknowledge this weight could possible reduce further and therefore welcome your thoughts and ideas on the possibility of reducing the weight further.

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@ericwilson4553
@ericwilson4553 2 ай бұрын
You could trim down all of your stuff sacks, use a couple of ziplocks for tiny items. Then, use a nylofume pack liner and put your sleeping bag loose in that. All your other gear will fill in the spaces above that and fit better than with all the stuff sacks. Then everything in the pack liner is waterproof so you can leave your rain cover at home as well. I bet you could save a few hundred grams on just stuff sacks you would be surprised.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Eric, appreciate taking the time to contribute the thoughtful comment. Certainly think your right and I will be testing this approach suggested. Cheers
@gordonglenn2793
@gordonglenn2793 2 ай бұрын
Great info
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
@josiebones1
@josiebones1 5 ай бұрын
Nice piece of kit that you've put together. I think you are on the right path and you've put quite a bit of thought into it. My only suggestions might be taking the 2 season bag (weather permitting), like you already suggested and some smaller things like putting your foot care products in smaller containers with just enough to get you through the trip. Same with other similar items. The Zpacks Nero is half the weight of the Fast pack even if you add on some shoulder pouches and a more substantial belt. I own both and the Fast pack feels more comfortable and more stable but at the low weights you are aiming for it's really splitting hairs comfort wise but I really do notice the lesser weight when it is all added up. Zpacks will sell you a second sternum strap which I think helps with the stability a bit. A mid type shelter might save you some weight as well? I don't get much rain where I am so that might be something I can get away with here. Good luck!
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to provide the thoughtful feedback, really appreciate that. Certainly investigating the ideas suggested. Cheers, Nigel
@COYSMike
@COYSMike 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this Nigel, that's even more interesting than I'd anticipated. Not many saving you could make save for the stuff sacks or maybe using a bivvy to reduce the need for the trekking poles (or just bring one if you'll still want to use it)
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, appreciate the input. Doing this has certainly made me question various aspects and believes. Cheers
@Burnoir
@Burnoir 11 ай бұрын
Excellent as ever Nigel. I have the Fastpack 30 and have used for multi-day hikes. Just tweaking my pack list for Camino Del Norte so aiming to use Fastpack 30 and get weight under 5kg as no tent, mat or cooking gear required. Happy days
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, 5kg my dream weight, happy days indeed, best of luck with the Camino. Cheers
@stewartgregson8479
@stewartgregson8479 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely great video, especially the what I left out as well as the what you took. Some ideas to reduce weight: agree no stove, smaller bag, no pack cover and use nyloflume pack liner, ditch the stuff/compression sacks for bag and clothes, reduce change clothes - only need dry for night if any, if travel through good water source area bin the extra folding bottle, tarp instead of tent if weather good, polycro ground sheet or use emergency blanket. I must say these are a mixture of things I do or are thinking about. You’ve given me some good ideas and some possible new kit purchases 😂.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Stewart, really appreciate the input. Doing this has certainly made me question some of the assumptions and believes I’ve had about what kit to carry. I think with these ideas here I might get close to 5kilos, which would be brilliant. Only problem, no real need for new kit purchases😂
@stewartgregson8479
@stewartgregson8479 11 ай бұрын
@@AmblingTrails I’m sure you’ll find an excuse somewhere for a purchase or two 😂
@stushikesandrides
@stushikesandrides 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this, my only thought would be to ditch the pack cover and dry bags/ compression sacks it’s surprising how much you save if you put your trust in a nyloflume sack(I use one from Atom packs). I put all my clothing loosely in my head net and use a 450 g quilt from Alpkit. Great video.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks really appreciate the input and agree I need to put my stuff in one bag. Cheers
@stushikesandrides
@stushikesandrides 11 ай бұрын
@@AmblingTrails No worries, btw any chance of a review of the new tent?
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
That certainly my intention but I’m having a few niggles with it which I’m trying to iron out with the supplier. Not used a trekking pole tent before so not sure if the problems I’m having are me or the tent but hoping to overcome these with help. Currently, doing the C2C with another new tent, Nemo Hornet Osmo, which I’m surprisingly impressed with. So coming down the tubes there will be two tent reviews! Thanks for interest and support. Cheers
@KevinRStrauss
@KevinRStrauss 7 ай бұрын
Super fun video. I'm gearing up to start fastpacking in 2024. I prefer 3-seasons. In summer, you can really reduce weight by minimizing your sleeping bag to just a liner. I'm also trying out 2x1/8th inch sleeping pads overlapping. I think I can get my base weight under 6 lbs (2.7 kg). I'm using the GG Fast Kumo 36.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 7 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, yes I'll certainly be joining you in that quest. From posting this video I got lots of helpful comments about reducing my weight even further, so will be exploring some of those ideas in 2024. Thanks for sharing and best of luck with your endeavours. Cheers, Nigel
@KevinRStrauss
@KevinRStrauss 7 ай бұрын
@@AmblingTrails Thanks Nigel! You may enjoy a recent video I posted of an older UL gear list and overnighter.
@silocybe83
@silocybe83 7 ай бұрын
Hi enjoyed that ! I have a question as regards the UD 30. I have an older model UD fastback the 25 and with that model i found that i needed to add padding to the shoulders as the straps rubbed on my skin alot. Does this newer model have some shoulder strap type protection ?
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 7 ай бұрын
Well that was a coincidence, I was in the shop where I bought my UD30 when I noticed your question. Apparently, they don’t do a 25 anymore, so I looked at the 20. The 30 certainly has a bit of padding whilst the 20 has none. The actual finish on the shoulder straps is the same across the range, so not sure if it would be the finish of the material rather than just the need for padding. Not sure if that fully helps, but if you have any further questions or need clarification happy to help.
@stushikesandrides
@stushikesandrides 8 ай бұрын
I’m currently awaiting delivery of my DCF Drift 1 (made slightly bigger than standard) have you used yours enough to form an opinion yet? It’s going to lower my base weight to just under 3.5 kg and as I’ve used trekking poles tents for many years I’m hoping for a good experience in it.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 8 ай бұрын
I'm in a bit of a love/hate relationship with the tent, but I don't know if it's my lack of experience of trekking pole tents (this is my first) that is causing the hate element. Obviously, love the low weight of the DCF and when I'm using trekking poles it makes perfect sense to use the tent. However, I'm struggling to have sloping walls that are tuat and channel free. I've been in contact with the manufacture, who did respond quickly but the suggestions did not resolve the issues I was having, I'm wondering still if I'm doing something fundamentally wrong. Not really had a reason to use it since the trip in the video, and been busy with other stuff, but hope to get back on the case soon. If your anywhere near the NW and can DM on Insta, happy to talk/share/show the tent so you can provide opinion/help maybe. Thanks for your interest and support of the channel. Cheers, Nigel
@stushikesandrides
@stushikesandrides 8 ай бұрын
@@AmblingTrails I’m on my forth trekking pole tent, the easiest to pitch was my most recent one, the sierra designs high route 1. I suspect the drift closest resembles my second such tent the luna solo from six moons designs The major difference between the two is obviously the second pole which to my mind should be a big improvement over an already solid design. I don’t know what Marc suggested but in my initial struggles with the luna I received lots of advice from other users which made it a doddle in the end. I’d love to try and help, I’m in Doncaster where are you? If it’s too far maybe we could meet up halfway for a coffee and a pitch or two.
@underdgk9
@underdgk9 11 ай бұрын
Zpacks dcf Hexamid Pocket Tarp @ 173g , Cumulus Xlite 200 @ 350g, closed cell foam sleeping pad in torso length @ 56-113g. Polartec Alpha Direct hooded fleece or Cumulus Planklite down jacket instead of the Berghaus jacket. Many other items are unneeded.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, some great thoughts here, helps to challenge my existing beliefs and great that you are encouraging me to buy new kit 😀👍🏼
@paulmaguire4627
@paulmaguire4627 9 ай бұрын
Be careful you do not cut down until you reach misery
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 9 ай бұрын
This almost sounds like a cryptic crossword clue! But it's a very good point indeed. I was getting to the point when I was reading all the comments following the release of this video, that life would be very miserable indeed if you followed all the advice given. Thanks for the reminder, go your own way, do your own thing and enjoy your life. Cheers
@normanhadley
@normanhadley 11 ай бұрын
Really interesting Nigel. Have you considered a 1-pole pyramid tent as an alternative? Liquid fuel stove might save a bit. Do you have a Lighterpack list to share?
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Thanks appreciate the thoughts and certainly worth me considering those things. Apologies, I don’t have a list, but I do admit it is something I need to get round to doing. Cheers
@normanhadley
@normanhadley 11 ай бұрын
@AmblingTrails it's a handy tool for implementing extreme ruthlessness. I've got my summer baseweight down to 2.4kg with key items being Gatewood cape, Hyperion 32 in Moonlite bag, Speedster stove, Toaks 550 Ti pot and a bumbag rather than a rucksack.
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 11 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s impressive, thanks for sharing.
@Shan-outnabout
@Shan-outnabout 8 ай бұрын
Did you just take a small canister of gas for your BRS stove?
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 8 ай бұрын
Yes that would be correct and well spotted that I had not shown it. As I was away for just the two nights, would have used a canister that was possibly left over from a previous trip and just had a small quantity of gas remaining. On reflection, and based on some of the comments I received, I am wondering about not taking any cooking gear for just two nights, the only problem would be I would really miss having a cup of warm tea at night and a cup of coffee in the morning!
@Shan-outnabout
@Shan-outnabout 8 ай бұрын
Maybe a small alcohol stove I am considering buying an X-boil as I have a Soto which is fairly light but if room is tight 😅
@AmblingTrails
@AmblingTrails 8 ай бұрын
Strange you should say that, just finally got round to buying some fuel last night for an alcohol stove that I was given a couple of weeks back. Yes like you I think this is the way to go. Thanks for the note, Nigel
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