This was probably the best explanation of camber vs rocker...thank you!!

I learned on a pair of full camber 195 K2 ski's, and I'm a light 5'10". They were a blast. You can ski whatever you want, but these are good guidelines in today's world.

This changed my life! For years I've been trying to understand what rocker and camber mean. I thank you good sir!

Very good explanation of rocker and camber effect the performance in ski design. I would add tip and tail shape in this explanation. If you notice that many front side carving skis more angular squared off shovels and tails. The shovel is lower and the tail,is flatter. The Volkl Deacon 72, 76 or 84 are good examples. When on edge the contact point is close to the ends of the ski. Skis designed for powder or deep snow have longer more tapered tips and tails. The contact points are further back. The Nordica Enforcer series are a good example of this style of tip and tail shape. As soon as you see the shape of the tip,shovel and tail you can estimate if it’s a front side, all mountain, Freeride or powder design.

Excellent and the best explanation of rocker technology ever! Thanks!

I've skied on my Salomon 1080 Guns (fully cambered, twin tips) for 15 years. They are solid all-mountain skis. I like the bumps and trees and therefore selected skis somewhat shorter than standard for my height. I demoed some Black Crows rocker skis. They were impossibly squirrely. Of course YMMV, but that's my experience.

I think using the term edge grip is inappropriate. In a fully rockered ski, you are correct, the grip is mostly directly underfoot rather than spread along the length of the camber. However, where this is deceiving is that the skiers weight is then directed almost totally underfoot (or along the whole edge if the skier engages very high edge angulation) when the entire skiers mass is directly underfoot, it actually creates more bite than a cambered ski-just in a smaller area most of the time. So it does in fact grip harder technically than a cambered ski. The grip area is just less. When the skiers weight is spread over the whole length of the camber profile, the skiers mass is dispersed further out, which actually means that the edge penetrates less than in a fully rockered ski, just over a wider area.

Nicely explained - thank you very much. That's another little gap in my knowledge filled in a bit.

I don't get why people say full camber race skiis are demanding... They are light, super easy turning, amazing grip, %100 in control. Should be a beginners dream

Thanks, good info, pretty well gels with everything I have experienced with camber vs rocker skis, something similar on twin tips and straight tails would be appreciated.👍

OMG, he is back!

I find this video very well done, even though I wouldn't necessarily agree with litterally everything it says. IMO for example I don't find that you need to be a more aggressive skier to ride full camber. I would prefer the wording more precise. That is why IMO if you have the goal to improve on your skiing and don't exclusively go to the slopes for relaxed fun, a full camber ski is the weapon of choice for your plans. And also I find I don't need to ski fast when I use full camber. What I like most on my full camber skis and what is the main reason I always ask for it, is the immediate response I am getting on my "command". This said, what I do think the video is lacking a bit is the description of the effect the rocker profile has to such response: You will experience a bit of a latency on the response of the ski because you need to do more engagement until the edges on the tips will follow that. My full camber ski, when I engage ever so slightly, gives me that immediate response so I don't have to wait for it entering the turn.

This video just made me feel better about myself because I’ve only used cambered skis lmao

Great video! Thanks a lot. Could you please make a video on twin-tip?

great to see a video again, keep em coming :))

Great explanation, got me to subscribe, thank you

Thanks for this.

Well said.. Well presented. Correct….

Thank you so much

Please do some reviews on narrow carving ski in the 75 underfoot. Prefer the upper end skies.. Thanks,

very nice video I am a more cautious skier after a shoulder injury a few years ago; thus speed is less important vs techniques. My question for the expert is the balance between rocker vs camber for someone who's doing mostly frontside slopes with some moguls, what skis do you recommend? I am looking at the Salomon QST vs Nordica enforcer or the Rossi Sender 94 or volkl mantra at 163 cm I am currently skiing an older Salomon shoganwith 100+ under foot not great in terms of carving nor bumps. thanks very much

Good/simple explanation , ❄️✨✨✨✨.

This video is most important and everyone should watch and fully understand as I know many people buys based on design!! lol This video help understand what kind of skier they are. Thank you for making the video and your dedication!!

First thing to know is that it's not a choice, you actually want camber and/or rocker. You never want a ski without camber unless you are a bad skier. Rocker makes thiner skis float better (but not well) in lighter snow conditions (meaning powder). Camber improves your mechanical advantage on turns by increasing the default ski bend position (think attack angle). Bad skiers won't notice the extra shovel (rocker) since they sit back and will be knocked over by camber as it will cause them to "catch an edge". 😊

Nice exlanations

What would be good for a beginner to intermediate in the Midwest where we have shorter hills that are often icy and steep? So the snow is typically more packed and can be very icy at times

Great info. What might you recommend for a high intermediate skier who splits time between the groomers and corduroy of Vermont with soft powder/moguls of the west? Thank you!

hmm i began w 83 Atomic mavericks (173) and yes at times the ski gets away form me. I feel like i need to use more muscle, strength or physical force to go through a turn especially if the snow gets patchy, slushy, or choppy. I ski primarily Mammoth. Im considering going to 100 under foot Atomic Bent or 100 Enforcer's . I ski groomers primarily, so which ski would you recommend? I'm 6 foot tall and weigh a muscular 230 lbs, Great video

I noticed that you have Tyrolia Protectors on the skis one pair of your skis. I was thinking about getting some for my significant other who has had knee surgery. What are your thoughts on the binding, how does it ski? Is the stack height an issue? (I ski on Look Pivots so my concept of stack height is skewed)

question if I am having an fischer rc4 the curve 2022, and the camber is almost gone - does that mean the ski is dead and needs to be exchanged? or is it still useable?

Great info. Very dark visual

rockers are the new snowboarders cambers are the old school rulers

Thanx

The comments about the effective edge of a full rocker ski aren't really accurate. A full rocker AND full taper ski have will very short effective edge but there are only a handful (4 that I can think of, only one that's a regular production model) of those on the market. The rest match the sidecut to the rocker profile so the entire sidecut contacts the snow when you have it on edge, same as a full camber ski. They can still grip well but usually lack the energy that a cambered ski has.

I am 6'4" an a beginner, people say I should be using shorter skis. can you do a video on ski length and what length does. thanks. I have been useing a 109cm and should a 95cm.

Combo has it 4 non racer.

A combo!

to me rocker, outside of a music context, referring to skis means, bent, broken, ruined, useless for anything but skiing on rocks therefore rockers have some uses just not on good snow. no ski will magically make you ski well. It takes rare convergences of lifestyle and economics to become recognized as a great skier. I watch great skiers analyze their moves and develop progressive task scripts to teach instructors to use role models like Micaela Schiffrin to coach kids and adults hopefully inspiring them on to becoming great skiers themselves. Great skiers can ski on rockers, but they just don't... they demand performance expect to have good times consistently. camber, sidecut and gauge pressure are old school ski design that started us turning. The same things apply today even more. They got it right back then and nothing has really changed. Ski technique is still the same "New way to Ski" as in the 50's. Ski marketers always shop for gimmicks like rocker to sell each season to hard core intermediate and advanced skiers hoping to compensate for their choice of lifestyle.

Man, there sure are a lot of people in your comments really upset that manufacturers make skis that aren't solely intended to go as fast as possible down a groomed piste and turn around gates!

oh and cambers ski in corduroys

Camber = groomed runs Rocker = powder runs

Rocker, got it…….that’s why those guys at squaw think they are soo good…..psst I still ski better than you.

Bro has no idea what he is talking about. Full rocker ski best. Best all rounder. 5/5 sessionability

Review pretty simple - these clown rocker angles and widths > 94 are for people who have zero technique and don’t know how to ski. You don’t need anything > 94 if you know what you are doing.

After 30+years designing skis and 55+years of skiing I still do not get, what he is talking about - just sales and marketing gobble.