What's the deal with Poppy? || Character design & lore discussion

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T B Skyen

T B Skyen

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Poppy, the Keeper of the Hammer, is one of the more substantial character updates in League of Legends' history, changing almost every aspect of who the character is and what she's about to fit an entirely new definition not only of her species but of her personality.
So, was it successful? Did it lead to a better character design and story? Yes. Yes of course it did, old Poppy was kind of horrible. But it might be interesting to talk about why!
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@jennifersanchez5866
@jennifersanchez5866 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Poppy "hero" skin, I mean, imagine a skin in which she realizes that she is the hero that she was looking for, with new phrases or something, it'd be cool, I think.
@thuglifemoza8243
@thuglifemoza8243 4 жыл бұрын
Hero Poppy Skin Say it with me riot 7 new Lux skins
@lookforagoodname4274
@lookforagoodname4274 6 жыл бұрын
The things the lewders did to her God bless her soul
@krowflin4468
@krowflin4468 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god I've seen that shit, it hurts too look at
@mat1281
@mat1281 Жыл бұрын
best thing to came out of lol
@franciscobuades3677
@franciscobuades3677 6 жыл бұрын
Something that I loved about the rework was how they kept the most essential aspect to her personality, her social awkwardness, but in a totally different and (IMO) cooler way. First she was this girl who would barely talk (which doesn't quite fit for an embassador) and who didn't know any jokes, and the rework transformed her into the girl that never really had any friends, and therefore never learnt how to properly relate to others. I also love how she fangirls and gets all overexcited over Garen and J4. She's basically the Amy Farrah Fowler of League of Legends, but less annoying.
@KingOpenReview
@KingOpenReview 6 жыл бұрын
She has really pretty eyes.
@sliccthedestroyer1881
@sliccthedestroyer1881 3 жыл бұрын
And a nice mouth
@jameskahre8488
@jameskahre8488 3 жыл бұрын
True
@joshuas9
@joshuas9 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@falcolombardi6438
@falcolombardi6438 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t even play League of Legends, but these videos are so cool. Just analysis in general.
@queenpen1398
@queenpen1398 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@ceratedsign4825
@ceratedsign4825 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise, I havent played in year and some now but Im all over these videos disgussing chars
@midgetmasher166
@midgetmasher166 6 жыл бұрын
Well, most Yordles that are ever seen by people are seen as people (ie paint the town comic, Tristana's short story), so maybe no one ever knew she was a yordle, allowing her to help the founding of Demacia with less contradiction.
@MrMatheuslego
@MrMatheuslego 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, so people just believe yordles are small humans ? Didn't Kha'zix have a line about killing yordles ? I'm kinda confused
@ichdu0014
@ichdu0014 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to write the exact same thing xD
@Snooki977
@Snooki977 6 жыл бұрын
(Also Kled lore's mention him to look different for each individual because yordles represents ideals !)
@midgetmasher166
@midgetmasher166 6 жыл бұрын
Just a brazilian geek that doesn't have enough creativity to create an interesting name Kha' zix is from the void so maybe he's unaffected by it. Just an idea.
@midgetmasher166
@midgetmasher166 6 жыл бұрын
kionashi fair point
@KasuriRinen
@KasuriRinen 6 жыл бұрын
I would really really love to see you talk about Sona, she is one of my favorite champions and now that she is not been included in the demacia update and neither in Ionia, i wanted to know your thoughts on her Discussion points that you may or may not wanna add 1.- what can riot do with her being mute, since the summoners no longer exist, she has no reason to have mind powers to talk to the player 2.- does she fit either demacia or Ionia and what can be done if she doesnt
@ichdu0014
@ichdu0014 6 жыл бұрын
Btw, Poppy giving the hammer to people who think that they are the hero is one very effective way to protect Demacia. This way, people who want to have all the power over Demacia die wielding the hammer.
@Scoonga_Doonga
@Scoonga_Doonga 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a WTDW for Singed Aesthetically he's all over the place He's from Zaun yet has no tech on him. He's a scientist yet doesn't dress like one Where in Runeterra can you pick up clown vomit armor like that? He has a shield because....reasons? What on earth is going on with him
@brunop.8745
@brunop.8745 6 жыл бұрын
And yet hes the best freaking character in the game. Who'd thought.
@franciscobuades3677
@franciscobuades3677 6 жыл бұрын
He's also a tank, yet he looks absurdly skinny and non-resistant
@hiunaut2833
@hiunaut2833 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! In Warwick's lore they portrayed him as some type of evil genius scientist, yet in game he is just a tanky lunatic running around at people and flinging them using his shield for no absolute reason. Where da context at?!
@walls0cket677
@walls0cket677 Жыл бұрын
The only logical answer to all of that; bio terrorism
@MrSupernaturalLife
@MrSupernaturalLife 6 жыл бұрын
Btw, after seeing your review of 'Jinx and Zigg's comic, I feel like the "oopsie" could be worked around if Poppy also had the ability to change her appearance like other Yordles, to look like a very short human. Poppy could have also thought, "there is no way I am the Hero of Demacia" knowing that Demacia hates things related to magic (in extension, the Yordles), So few additions here and there while keeping her humble attitude could definitely make the lore more flowing!
@Popelmasse3000
@Popelmasse3000 6 жыл бұрын
RIP Blomgrun
@dylancostello1103
@dylancostello1103 6 жыл бұрын
A Veigar episode would be really cool. He’s a yordle but doesn’t look like one, is uncharacteristically evil, and doesn’t really have a reason for knowing magic.
@hummingvoid7824
@hummingvoid7824 6 жыл бұрын
Dylan Costello I've been poking Skyne for this ever since Shaco video.
@ckie1972
@ckie1972 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that Veigar became evil when he got arrested and captured at Noxus? And then he sought out dark wizards for them to teach him magic to conquer the world.
@infinite_ammo
@infinite_ammo 6 жыл бұрын
He's simply a evil black mage from final fantasy
@vampyricon7026
@vampyricon7026 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, I do wanna hear it.
@sanitysanitation
@sanitysanitation 3 жыл бұрын
There is actually a lot of magic in and around Demacia, and in the modern day, a lot of it is hearsay and general fear, where in the past, it was mostly people sick of the rune wars and direct magic users rather than magical creatures etc. Even in the Demacia of today they recognize the supernatural fairly evenly, with Galio being a happy living statue in rumors around the capital, with Minotaur having helped with the founding of Demacia and one being in the core of the Dauntless Vanguard, with a troop of people who ride on GIANT BIRDS... It's not antithetical to Demacia to be a magical creature, but to be a magic user is distrusted generally. Orlon probably understood her on a more personal level than would raise suspicion of being an evil mage/manipulator
@GregerMoek
@GregerMoek 6 жыл бұрын
You're making these videos so fast. I love it. No other youtuber I follow closely blasts out this many videos a week with this kinda discussion material.
@andrjz
@andrjz 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking about poppy! I always wondered when you would talk about her comic
@moedrak
@moedrak 6 жыл бұрын
my fave champ
@morphitime
@morphitime 6 жыл бұрын
yaaah 100th like. also love your videos. i grew up loving character design but never had a lot of people to talk about it with. thank you for the content.
@margaritakrisciunaite603
@margaritakrisciunaite603 6 жыл бұрын
your vids are very educational and entertaining, even make me more excited to play the game really glad to have found your channel man, keep it up! also, hoping to see a video on vayne someday :) sadly theres not much about her atm
@onedirectioninfection5756
@onedirectioninfection5756 6 жыл бұрын
heyo! you should talk about elise! i'd love to know what you think of her and if her sex appeal is a good or bad aspect of her character.
@eduardaanschau4409
@eduardaanschau4409 6 жыл бұрын
Omg you did It!!! Im in love!!
@ChromaticCluck
@ChromaticCluck 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Poppy isnt supposed to look tanky or threatening, because one: from a story perspective she wouldnt look like a plate armoured death machine because she is a traveller that is looking for a plate armoured death machine, and two: from a game perspective, I dont know how to explain this but looking non threatening feels like it helps the play style. For example if you are an Irelia that is ahead and u see Darius and Poppy charging at you u might go "ah yes lets start with the Darius because he is a massive armoured dood that usually gets perma banned because he does too much damage" which is the point where u get ur dash stopped and get ur face shoved into a wall while the darius is emoting in the background. While on the other hand (ofc the best option is to run away, but since ur ahead and since u have ur full build with a single vampiric sceptre u might think u can 1v5 ez) killing the Poppy first would be the best way to take that fight on (while also kiting the Dario cuz we dont want bleed stacks). Ik shitty example but the point is that most people wouldnt have Poppy anywhere near the top of their most threatening champs chart.
@jonathanpinera8452
@jonathanpinera8452 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Can you do a vid on all the Yordles?!
@czairkolmoslink5952
@czairkolmoslink5952 6 жыл бұрын
Very great video, I been wondering what they are going to do to Volibear because he’s been so old and so weird. They give him this Juggernaut and Warden play style. He has clashing back stories that mess with new characters. It’s weird.
@samuelbott6104
@samuelbott6104 3 жыл бұрын
How do you like the Volibear update now that its out
@queenlexy7446
@queenlexy7446 6 жыл бұрын
I still hope for a video about the Bastion short c: One of my favourite Overwatch Shorts and I think a lot of awesome design choices were made in it ^-^
@mavenYGO
@mavenYGO 6 жыл бұрын
Poppy is one of my favorite designs, she's the reason that top is my secondary
@autorevive2821
@autorevive2821 6 жыл бұрын
God dammit i want to get into this server, its such a perfect place to talk about art and lore.
@guest_zzroman2076
@guest_zzroman2076 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making my day.
@lunamoth505
@lunamoth505 6 жыл бұрын
Yo I just wanted to say I love your intros lmao
@TheVideolover45
@TheVideolover45 6 жыл бұрын
I think something worth mentioning is that all things considered, Females Yordles all look very same-ish. Whether this was unintentional or just because females are more inclined to being Cute then unique, it's a fact of their designs. Big googly eyes, Round heads and goofy personalities, Lulu, Poppy and Tristana all share pretty much the same base design only having different hair, clothes and skin tones. HELL, Poppy's hair color had to be changed from White because she looked too much like Tristana. The cute aspect of Female Yordles becomes a lot more obvious when looking at the Yordle-centric skin line, Omega squad. In which the only Yordle NOT wearing a mask is Tristana. Perhaps to keep her googly cutesy face apparent. Overall I have too say it's pretty disappointing because Yordles are a fun and unqiue race considering their inspiration. But all of the girls have to remain sameish, as is the case of not just female Yordles, but a lot of League of Legends Females.
@unlimon4712
@unlimon4712 6 жыл бұрын
Jackalope Wrangler well, if we are talking about yordles and we consider them a race AND make them have human standards for diversity and uniquenes...is actually kinda off I say this because the main aspect of yordles is magic and inventions, they can look the way they want they don't worry about "welp tristana I look too much like you guess i'll die" Also, in the real world people from the same race tend to have similar features, like asians or the people from the south part of Southamerica
@_debacle1466
@_debacle1466 6 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAHAHA...TB is the bet person. 💝 God I love this... remind me go up my love for you and this channel.
@_debacle1466
@_debacle1466 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much TB. I love the hell out of you. 💝 This means the world to me to see this. You are fucking epic for doing this.
@grimzby6983
@grimzby6983 6 жыл бұрын
Once the newly teased champ, Pyke, comes out, can you talk about him? Based off of his trailer he’s basically a Jack the Ripper pirate which is a really cool concept to me.
@jolyne4299
@jolyne4299 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Skyne! Have you ever thought about talking about shyvana or syndra? They're both two of my absolute favorite champions. I've always loved their designs and their character but there has always been something about there designs that are kinda odd to me. Like why is syndra dressed exactly like she is? It seems to fit her character but also at the same time she's kind of odd to me. I'd love to see your insight on those two one day!
@MagnyrDelorn
@MagnyrDelorn 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Zilean Character design and lore discussion!
@cheru5516
@cheru5516 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! My comment is a bit off topic- I was wondering if you had any original characters you would be willing to talk about? Ocs fascinate me and I'm always looking for decent ones where ever I go.
@Ech0.x
@Ech0.x 6 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see an analysis of Illaoi. If you think that would be cool I'd really love to see it. Love your videos.
@dave7592
@dave7592 6 жыл бұрын
I miss old Poppy man. Nuking people off the map while being invincible was legit amazing
@lordnichard
@lordnichard 6 жыл бұрын
david saraj She was literally impossible to kill. Dive 1v5 under tower, grab their adc, and walk away unscathed.
@apollinarian
@apollinarian 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching so many of your videos that I'm starting to read everything in your voice...
@ChinoWantan
@ChinoWantan 6 жыл бұрын
Do Twitch plz :) I just discovered your channel and I binge watch it whole xD
@paoloruggiero659
@paoloruggiero659 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude. Maybe talk about mordekaiser?
@Draxeid
@Draxeid 6 жыл бұрын
Would love a video on Sylvanas Windrunner
@devilboy0023
@devilboy0023 3 жыл бұрын
Hi skyen, I have a lore doubt, if demacia hunts mages, what happens to foreign lands, and if mages from otrer regions are allowed to enter or have some kind of diplomatic protection i have wondered for a while
@kriblar98
@kriblar98 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Skyen, you should totally anylayse the designes of the characters from Sanctum 2!
@markusross3858
@markusross3858 6 жыл бұрын
talk about what is teemo for league of legends
@galio2012
@galio2012 6 жыл бұрын
I loved pre rework Galio and I'm scared to see your opinion of the update since I'm not a huge fan of the new one.
@mrAlmanata
@mrAlmanata 6 жыл бұрын
It would be really cool to see a vid of GP, I think he's so damn cool, and the habilitis show his personality so damn well, i would love It
@fool4463
@fool4463 6 жыл бұрын
hello tb Skyen. Would it be possible for you to do a video of Sion from LoL?
@primordial6966
@primordial6966 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, i would like to hear your Ideas about Pyke , even though we don’t have many clues right now I think he has an interesting design for a support.
@SpensaVenture
@SpensaVenture 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about Nocturne? It's my favorite champion and I really wonder what you have to say about him! :)
@rickyn3023
@rickyn3023 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing that TB Skyen does with his videos is discouraging a dislike 😂
@sadaa7886
@sadaa7886 6 жыл бұрын
can you do on azir, kindred or taly i just wanna see you thought on them :/
@Moitoutvabien
@Moitoutvabien 6 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with the damn Kindred video that you haven't made yet????? Amazing content, as always ^^ Poppy is one of my favorite characters in terms of design!
@amberorion1549
@amberorion1549 6 жыл бұрын
ahh my favorite champion! yes!
@cannoneermike
@cannoneermike 6 жыл бұрын
Can you examine Ryke teaser? Any thoughts?
@GH-pf6mw
@GH-pf6mw 6 жыл бұрын
First of all OH BOY! T B Skyen talking about my true love, life is beautiful now.Welp, you talked about how she is and how in the lore after many years of traveling it looks kinda dumb that she haven't figured out that she is the hero of the profecy, but i have to point out that there was said that yordles not only have human emotions, but their emotion are more specific and stronger. Ziggs and Veigar are good examples of strong personalities. Maybe the main personality of Poppy is potting herself down? I can't remember the word for this, but it seems is something related to depresive tendencies. I relate to Poppy a lot because of that, people always say i'm good at a lot of thing and that what i do has a lot of value and i have worth and nnooo? Idk? Maybe? I'm sure i know someone more important or i'll meet someone like that someday. And i think if a yordle has a feeling like that they would be like Poppy. Just a theory i have. But whatever i'm still really excited for the fact that you like her that much.
@TheCharlesdobbs
@TheCharlesdobbs 6 жыл бұрын
Yooo can you do one on Apollyon from for honor.
@im4smoore
@im4smoore 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you talk about Illaoi. You’ve mentioned in a previous video your likeness of her and I think she is one of the stronger(est?) character designs in League with the possible exception of her romance with GP. Although, that might just be a personal ‘ugh’ of my own because it’s also present in Camille’s lore (and Camille, in my opinion, is similar to Illaoi in quite a few ways) and it always seems that female characters have to be ogling over some guy at some point in their lore. It frustrates me less with Illaoi’s lore than it does Camille’s, since Illaoi’s focus is more around pursing your desires while Camille is intent on fulfilling her duty to her house and a romantic interest very directly conflicts with that. Probably just some personal grief. TL;DR: Illaoi (or Camille) would be so awesome to hear your perspective on!
@emmasprague5465
@emmasprague5465 3 жыл бұрын
i recently started playing poppy and i have decided i love her
@martinberlese
@martinberlese 6 жыл бұрын
How dare you, lollipopy was more beautiful than this world ever deserved.
@yukigacha7152
@yukigacha7152 6 жыл бұрын
She gave me nightmares
@lustrousity1877
@lustrousity1877 6 жыл бұрын
Sherin Ahmed indeed xD
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows why her shield(in game atleast) is transparent?
@pokolo045
@pokolo045 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video about lee sin?
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see how Demacia would react if they discovered that their nation was founded in part by one of the creatures they despise so much. As an aside, I'm going to repeat my long-repeated suggestion to compare and contrast the use of character design in textual and visual media (by visual description/depiction, respectively).
@riodaweirdo3062
@riodaweirdo3062 6 жыл бұрын
I’d like you to talk about Janna, how she doesn’t fit the Zaun aesthetic yet is part of it, maybe about her lore rework, how it shows the power of faith in League’s world, and how this info interacts with other characters
@alcaponefan1
@alcaponefan1 6 жыл бұрын
This isn't Azir. all joking aside great video. cant wait for you to tackle my favorite champ.
@gnq_8374
@gnq_8374 3 жыл бұрын
Yo it happened man
@luffy7seas
@luffy7seas 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Ekko?
@ichdu0014
@ichdu0014 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Skyen! Could you do a reaction video to the music video of "Mr. Glassman"? You can find the song on KZfaq, it's a lyrics video.
@isaacvannatta-flies289
@isaacvannatta-flies289 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do WTDW Sona? That'd he super cool since her abilties don't align with Demacia anti magic attitude.
@dz883
@dz883 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do urgot in a future episode? Since they changed pretty much everything for the better except that he has multiple legs.
@Splernic
@Splernic 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I want to hear your opinion on my favorite lady of clockwork, Orianna
@violettsuki
@violettsuki 6 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about Lissandra!? I feel like she's such a cool champion but not popular enough. Would love to know your opinion on her
@aksen303
@aksen303 6 жыл бұрын
saw the title and thought "the pop star? .....oh".
@aftermarketproductions9391
@aftermarketproductions9391 6 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS POPPY
@oliverszyszka5279
@oliverszyszka5279 6 жыл бұрын
It’s 1 am but I don’t care ma boy uploaded
@Na-rp4ql
@Na-rp4ql 6 жыл бұрын
Development Trivia: Old Poppy, in development, originally had Shen's original kit. AoE CC, Taunt, Shield, Global Teleport+Shield. For some reason her kit was changed in the last few months of development drastically, shifting her from a supportish tank to an assassin. Clueless year 1 Riot still marketed her as a tank, though.
@PlayLikeLegends
@PlayLikeLegends 6 жыл бұрын
have you ever thought about making a discussion video on singed? his updated lore tells us that singed is this really old psychopathic scientist and yet his character model and gameplay are not even close to this description what so ever. another note i feel like they had a good opportunity to expand his lore a bit with the Ionian war but didn't capitalise on it. is singed dew for an inevitable rework? or should they change his lore to better suit his gameplay and model?
@SuIgInToUfAnAnImE
@SuIgInToUfAnAnImE 6 жыл бұрын
how would you redesign lulu .n.
@noem.7430
@noem.7430 6 жыл бұрын
hellou, the new lol champ, pyke has an intresting teaser with great animation, it would be nice to hear your thoughs on it (sorry for bad english)
@urbncampr
@urbncampr 6 жыл бұрын
Yay for Poppy \o/
@sorumoru
@sorumoru 6 жыл бұрын
please do a vid about udyr :>>
@Fosilkat
@Fosilkat 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please talk about orianna?
@edgycunt6358
@edgycunt6358 6 жыл бұрын
While i think that her shield should be more visible to emphasise her tankiness, her slim figure makes sense since she is a pretty fast champion once she activates her w. My only complain with the rework is that nothing from her old gameplay was transfered to her new one, except for her e.
@daeric7572
@daeric7572 6 жыл бұрын
yes my main
@sarcasticraspberry8699
@sarcasticraspberry8699 6 жыл бұрын
please do a meryl silverburgh video!
@wiiagent
@wiiagent Жыл бұрын
subscribed
@absoldestiny2657
@absoldestiny2657 6 жыл бұрын
Shyv is also tied to demacia though
@olledaleskog5439
@olledaleskog5439 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on Kayn? I find him pretty interesting
@feniu10
@feniu10 6 жыл бұрын
He has one
@Ladygothii12
@Ladygothii12 6 жыл бұрын
Trinity Force
@felixfortuneforsfortuna9176
@felixfortuneforsfortuna9176 6 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe make a teemo video?
@asiwir2084
@asiwir2084 6 жыл бұрын
Could you talk about Shen? I love him to death but his playstyle doesn't really work with him as a champion.
@eilabiu
@eilabiu 6 жыл бұрын
This is just me filling in the gaps and not really based off anything riots said, but I like the idea of magical creatures having helped demacia only for the nations rulers to just...forget that? As in like, over time the various kings either retconned them out their folklore or just didnt include them in the first place. So demacia slowly turned into an anti-magic nation which, unbeknownst to them, betrayed their own founders. Its kind of an interesting bit of irony that I think would be cool to see explored, haha.
@DemsCreates
@DemsCreates 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I agree with all you said, but I'll admit I took a liking to older [ugly] Poppy and I kinda miss her. But new Poppy is n i c e.
@lightdragoon88
@lightdragoon88 6 жыл бұрын
Hey how about Xerath? :D
@fullmetalshorte
@fullmetalshorte 6 жыл бұрын
Need to do one of the star guardians!!!
@TheCrytterion
@TheCrytterion 6 жыл бұрын
The guy from discord got his video :D
@OlaAremu
@OlaAremu 3 жыл бұрын
She's so cool!
@tobeavus
@tobeavus 6 жыл бұрын
What's mundos deal?
@proxriptide5401
@proxriptide5401 6 жыл бұрын
How bout doing bard?
@remnantryku7112
@remnantryku7112 5 жыл бұрын
“Just a Yordle with a hammer.”
@firebreak2009
@firebreak2009 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY
@JMyapiliscious
@JMyapiliscious 6 жыл бұрын
I’m poppy I’m poppy I’m poppy I’m poppy -poppy
@vicaststick4784
@vicaststick4784 6 жыл бұрын
Skyn has yordle fetish XD jk, nice vid man
@dylancostello1103
@dylancostello1103 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think an ambassador champion could be really cool
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